Soooo much BS here

Raptor Jesus · January 31st, 2009, 10:17 AM

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...ting-today.ars

This is complete bullshit. How could they make a mistake this big? Also, why hasn't it been fixed? This should be one of their top priorities to fix this. How hard can it be to change one tiny value??

Looks like pirates win again against DRM.

xbolt · January 31st, 2009, 10:41 AM

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Doom_Dude · January 31st, 2009, 10:52 AM

Wow... major fail. Thanks for the link Raptor, added to my MGE news post just now.

Raptor Jesus · January 31st, 2009, 04:06 PM

Thank GMan. He sent it to me on MSN.

How many more years of this bullshit do you think we'll have to deal with until they realise DRM is complete bullshit that only effects the people who give them money?

g6672D · January 31st, 2009, 05:32 PM

They keep shooting their feet. Sooner or later, they either stop doing that, or they bleed to death.

I'm interested what the cert is used for. In any case, it cannot "simply be changed" because it invalidates. In the meantime, just do the date thing if it means so much to you.

Nomad · January 31st, 2009, 05:33 PM

Welcome aboard the failboat, Epic!

FATAL · January 31st, 2009, 05:44 PM

What you turds need to learn is not to buy any games that use any kind of online checking or otherwise intrusive DRM no matter how delightful it might be.

CrazedImp · January 31st, 2009, 07:08 PM

This is stupid. Just let me buy my game, put in a CD-key to install it and then never have to see the disc again unless I want to reinstall and no online activation junk.

Darkwave0000 · January 31st, 2009, 07:37 PM

Hmmm.
I am not understanding the concept standing behind DRM for computer games. Aren't pirates immune to DRM while the paying player is affected? So would not DRM techniques like this increase piracy, probably, since pirates do not worry about these events?

Raptor Jesus · January 31st, 2009, 07:46 PM

Pretty much, Darkwave. We should all send a letter (letter, not email) to all the major companies (especially EA) and try to prove this fact to them. They won't listen to falling sales. They'll just blame pir@s like that did in the first place and put stronger DRMs. If this rate stays like this, in 10 years, you'll have to have an EA employee standing over your shoulder to play the damned games.

ghost · January 31st, 2009, 08:06 PM

Oh the irony!

I still think as of now, Steam is the best method of overcoming pirates, albeit there are still problems with using steam, arrrrrrrrrr!
Funny how when people are so caught up into making money, they are virtually blind to simple solutions, lol. You would expect university educated, la-de-la workers/bosses/companies to come up with better solutions and perhaps tolerate compromises and sacrifices.

Giftmacher · January 31st, 2009, 10:46 PM

People are getting so idiotic with these DRMs that now I think they just deserve to have their games pirated, it's putting so many stupid, needless inconveniences onto the shoulders of the true paying customers.

That's just Asinine!

Aliotroph? · January 31st, 2009, 10:57 PM

This is where I feel obliged to point out how Bethesda's games are pretty hassle free.

Raptor Jesus · January 31st, 2009, 11:22 PM

THIS JUST IN! According to OXM, GoW2 won't be coming to PC "due to piracy"!! God damn pir@!!! stole my vidja games :C

ghost · January 31st, 2009, 11:38 PM

Lol. The perfect fool-proof plan.. Soon.... ALL of the video games will be withdrawn! Soon, there will be nothing to pirate, you pirates!

MWUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAZZZZZZZZ! *cough*

That's bad. Can't they face the fricking truth that any programs and games can be hacked?!?! Technology and computing skills have advanced so far, it's impossible for anything to not be cracked/pirated. Shame on you Epic(Fail)!

Nemesis · February 1st, 2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATAL

What you turds need to learn is not to buy any games that use any kind of online checking or otherwise intrusive DRM no matter how delightful it might be.

Like Steam.

Honestly, I got a chuckle out of this. I also laugh heartily when I talk to people who've found ways around both SecuROM (which is what GoW on the PC uses) as well as games that require Steam.

Now all I'm waiting for is someone to crash/hack/infect the Steam servers, thereby rendering any game using that form of DRM useless, and I can die a happy man.

I know, I sound really hateful and malicious about this, especially toward Steam. However, when someone (in this case game developers/publishers) does something like use DRM and act like 'hay guise u cnt pir8 dis gaem nao kthx' and a pirate finds a way around it and they're all like 'orly', in the end the developers/publishers are asking for it, I think. Tell someone they can't do something and/or will have a hard time doing something and there's always going to be that handful of people who'll prove them wrong.

Honestly, I think this site has the right, better idea:

http://www.gog.com/en/frontpage/

Giftmacher · February 1st, 2009, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor Jesus

THIS JUST IN! According to OXM, GoW2 won't be coming to PC "due to piracy"!! God damn pir@!!! stole my vidja games :C

Bullshit, that's unfair and they know it. It's probably just a sneaky reason for them to not have to bother with a PC port, since PC gamers officially don't matter anymore.

Aliotroph? · February 1st, 2009, 01:11 AM

I never understood why this screen thing is a problem with 3D games. They all use GL or DirectX. Just gotta change a couple numbers and all is well. Sometimes you can find the settings and hack olde games to support widescreen.

Giftmacher · February 1st, 2009, 01:47 AM

Yeah, but people shouldn't have to screw around in a game's files to be able to enjoy it.

Aliotroph? · February 1st, 2009, 02:11 AM

That's what I just said. The fact that they can should mean that crap should just work without even having to do it, since it's clearly not difficult in most cases.

January 31st, 2009, 10:17 AM	#1
Raptor Jesus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amerikhastan Posts: 2,756	Soooo much BS here http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...ting-today.ars This is complete bullshit. How could they make a mistake this big? Also, why hasn't it been fixed? This should be one of their top priorities to fix this. How hard can it be to change one tiny value?? Looks like pirates win again against DRM.

January 31st, 2009, 10:52 AM	#3
Doom_Dude Spazztronik Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 10,518	Wow... major fail. Thanks for the link Raptor, added to my MGE news post just now. __________________ ► The Megawad Outpost ◄►Levels on WIP ◄►DeviantArt◄

January 31st, 2009, 10:57 PM	#13
Aliotroph? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The frozen wastes of Quan'ideery Posts: 9,095	This is where I feel obliged to point out how Bethesda's games are pretty hassle free. __________________ Aliotroph.post_count++;

February 1st, 2009, 01:11 AM	#18
Aliotroph? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The frozen wastes of Quan'ideery Posts: 9,095	I never understood why this screen thing is a problem with 3D games. They all use GL or DirectX. Just gotta change a couple numbers and all is well. Sometimes you can find the settings and hack olde games to support widescreen. __________________ Aliotroph.post_count++;

February 1st, 2009, 02:11 AM	#20
Aliotroph? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The frozen wastes of Quan'ideery Posts: 9,095	That's what I just said. The fact that they can should mean that crap should just work without even having to do it, since it's clearly not difficult in most cases. __________________ Aliotroph.post_count++;

January 31st, 2009, 10:41 AM	#2
xbolt Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Elsweyr Posts: 621	...

January 31st, 2009, 04:06 PM	#4
Raptor Jesus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amerikhastan Posts: 2,756	Thank GMan. He sent it to me on MSN. How many more years of this bullshit do you think we'll have to deal with until they realise DRM is complete bullshit that only effects the people who give them money?

January 31st, 2009, 05:32 PM	#5
g6672D Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Unknown Posts: 1,330	They keep shooting their feet. Sooner or later, they either stop doing that, or they bleed to death. I'm interested what the cert is used for. In any case, it cannot "simply be changed" because it invalidates. In the meantime, just do the date thing if it means so much to you.

January 31st, 2009, 05:33 PM	#6
Nomad Keen For Life Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Clinton, UT Posts: 6,253	Welcome aboard the failboat, Epic!

January 31st, 2009, 05:44 PM	#7
FATAL Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 7,429	What you turds need to learn is not to buy any games that use any kind of online checking or otherwise intrusive DRM no matter how delightful it might be.

January 31st, 2009, 07:08 PM	#8
CrazedImp Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a wall glitch. Posts: 2,174	This is stupid. Just let me buy my game, put in a CD-key to install it and then never have to see the disc again unless I want to reinstall and no online activation junk.

January 31st, 2009, 07:37 PM	#9
Darkwave0000 Commander Keen Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 76	Hmmm. I am not understanding the concept standing behind DRM for computer games. Aren't pirates immune to DRM while the paying player is affected? So would not DRM techniques like this increase piracy, probably, since pirates do not worry about these events?

January 31st, 2009, 07:46 PM	#10
Raptor Jesus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amerikhastan Posts: 2,756	Pretty much, Darkwave. We should all send a letter (letter, not email) to all the major companies (especially EA) and try to prove this fact to them. They won't listen to falling sales. They'll just blame pir@s like that did in the first place and put stronger DRMs. If this rate stays like this, in 10 years, you'll have to have an EA employee standing over your shoulder to play the damned games.

January 31st, 2009, 08:06 PM	#11
ghost Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 518	Oh the irony! I still think as of now, Steam is the best method of overcoming pirates, albeit there are still problems with using steam, arrrrrrrrrr! Funny how when people are so caught up into making money, they are virtually blind to simple solutions, lol. You would expect university educated, la-de-la workers/bosses/companies to come up with better solutions and perhaps tolerate compromises and sacrifices.

January 31st, 2009, 10:46 PM	#12
Giftmacher Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: an internet hate machine Posts: 1,967	People are getting so idiotic with these DRMs that now I think they just deserve to have their games pirated, it's putting so many stupid, needless inconveniences onto the shoulders of the true paying customers. That's just Asinine!

January 31st, 2009, 11:22 PM	#14
Raptor Jesus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amerikhastan Posts: 2,756	THIS JUST IN! According to OXM, GoW2 won't be coming to PC "due to piracy"!! God damn pir@!!! stole my vidja games :C

January 31st, 2009, 11:38 PM	#15
ghost Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 518	Lol. The perfect fool-proof plan.. Soon.... ALL of the video games will be withdrawn! Soon, there will be nothing to pirate, you pirates! MWUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAZZZZZZZZ! cough That's bad. Can't they face the fricking truth that any programs and games can be hacked?!?! Technology and computing skills have advanced so far, it's impossible for anything to not be cracked/pirated. Shame on you Epic(Fail)!

February 1st, 2009, 01:47 AM	#19
Giftmacher Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: an internet hate machine Posts: 1,967	Yeah, but people shouldn't have to screw around in a game's files to be able to enjoy it.

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