Final Attempt to Get Heretic/Hexen GPL'd

sLydE · September 6th, 2006, 07:25 AM

digg story:
http://digg.com/software/Final_Attem...ic_Hexen_GPL_d

original thread:
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthre...threadid=38080

discuss.

/me ducks to avoid flying computer parts

I figured I would link the story over here so that the whole doom community is involved, not just the guys over at doomworld.

Doom_Dude · September 7th, 2006, 06:52 AM

That certainly is interesting. Lets hope that this attempt is a success.

rustyslacker · September 7th, 2006, 04:12 PM

So what are the advantages of getting these released open-source? I don't really get what the big deal is, so please explain it to me!

MR_ROCKET · September 7th, 2006, 04:42 PM

A big ok that let's developers know that they can fully lawfully utilize a given source code?

Aliotroph? · September 7th, 2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyslacker

So what are the advantages of getting these released open-source? I don't really get what the big deal is, so please explain it to me!

Jeez! You play Legacy! What do you think the deal is???

According to the stupid license Activision tacked onto that code, Legacy is illegal. Kind of hard to get people to distribute "illegal" software.

MR_ROCKET · September 7th, 2006, 10:22 PM

Shouldn't all games that fallow the GPL pretty much be the same thing though?
I mean Doom fallows it, what should be the difference?
Wasn't Heretic and Hexen based on the Doom source in the first place and then basically modded from that point?

Quote:

According to the stupid license Activision tacked onto that code, Legacy is illegal. Kind of hard to get people to distribute "illegal" software.

Wouldn't that go for all the other sourceports that support Heretic and Hexen then?

Sorry about all the questions.

Ajapted · September 8th, 2006, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_ROCKET

Wasn't Heretic and Hexen based on the Doom source in the first place and then basically modded from that point?

Yes Raven licensed (bought) the source code of Doom directly from iD, so their modified code belongs to them. The fact that the Doom source code was later released, first under an "Educational Use" license and later under the GNU GPL, has no effect on Raven's copyright/license on Heretic and Hexen code.

MR_ROCKET · September 8th, 2006, 03:29 AM

Argh we wont be able to run Heretic or Hexen alone on todays o/s (properly) without a sourceport of some sort, can we? I mean how can anything prosper without?
Doesn't the GPL have some sorta budget rental plan or something

, or is it a matter of someone granting someone the ok?

The Undertaker · September 8th, 2006, 05:00 AM

Good luck getting anything from Activision. You know how publishers are but I rank Activision high on the list of publishers so I say there is some hope.

sLydE · September 8th, 2006, 06:03 AM

I think there is some hope, but it is starting to look grim...

Doom_Dude · September 8th, 2006, 12:48 PM

There is always hope. It's just a matter of asking the right person in the right way.

Good luck infinding out who that is.

MR_ROCKET · September 8th, 2006, 05:15 PM

I left a digg comment, don't kill me

Aliotroph? · September 9th, 2006, 02:47 AM

You should submit it to Slashdot. When that lot gets stirred up something always happens, be it good or bad.

MR_ROCKET · September 9th, 2006, 03:10 AM

Has anyone tried just mailing them a post card? I mean it may sound a bit corny but it might get into some different hands that way.

sLydE · September 9th, 2006, 07:04 PM

actually that's a good idea

September 6th, 2006, 07:25 AM	#1
sLydE Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mount Savage, MD, USA Posts: 1,736	Final Attempt to Get Heretic/Hexen GPL'd digg story: http://digg.com/software/Final_Attem...ic_Hexen_GPL_d original thread: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthre...threadid=38080 discuss. /me ducks to avoid flying computer parts I figured I would link the story over here so that the whole doom community is involved, not just the guys over at doomworld. __________________ \| Worthless Genius \| My Portfolio \| Doom Legacy Wiki \| The Appalachian Independent \|

September 7th, 2006, 06:52 AM	#2
Doom_Dude Spazztronik Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 10,518	That certainly is interesting. Lets hope that this attempt is a success. __________________ ► The Megawad Outpost ◄►Levels on WIP ◄►DeviantArt◄ Last edited by Doom_Dude; September 7th, 2006 at 09:37 AM.

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MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	A big ok that let's developers know that they can fully lawfully utilize a given source code? __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=-

September 8th, 2006, 03:29 AM	#8
MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	Argh we wont be able to run Heretic or Hexen alone on todays o/s (properly) without a sourceport of some sort, can we? I mean how can anything prosper without? Doesn't the GPL have some sorta budget rental plan or something , or is it a matter of someone granting someone the ok? __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=-

September 8th, 2006, 06:03 AM	#10
sLydE Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mount Savage, MD, USA Posts: 1,736	I think there is some hope, but it is starting to look grim... __________________ \| Worthless Genius \| My Portfolio \| Doom Legacy Wiki \| The Appalachian Independent \|

September 7th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#3
rustyslacker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Some unclosed sector Posts: 4,663	So what are the advantages of getting these released open-source? I don't really get what the big deal is, so please explain it to me!

September 8th, 2006, 05:00 AM	#9
The Undertaker Commander Keen Join Date: May 2001 Location: To your left Posts: 1,999	Good luck getting anything from Activision. You know how publishers are but I rank Activision high on the list of publishers so I say there is some hope.

September 8th, 2006, 12:48 PM	#11
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September 9th, 2006, 02:47 AM	#13
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September 9th, 2006, 03:10 AM	#14
MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	Has anyone tried just mailing them a post card? I mean it may sound a bit corny but it might get into some different hands that way. __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=-

September 9th, 2006, 07:04 PM	#15
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