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Old December 23rd, 2005, 09:43 AM   #1
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We want an 0.0001 alpha of new Legacy 2.0
We all want alpha of legacy 2.0, who agree with me?
plz you should realese it for as in december like a present, it will be testers version, plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz, plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,pl z,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,plz
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 12:22 PM   #2
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 01:43 PM   #3
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Looks like I missed that... not that I'm too enthusiastic about alpha stages of things, but I might just look at it. Heh.

All those "plz"es and s made me die a little on the inside...
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 02:02 PM   #4
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Hmmm..... no.
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 04:53 PM   #5
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Old December 28th, 2005, 05:08 AM   #6
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You could try ZdoomGl during this time...
And NO: no bugged beta, PLEASE!!!

But... Hurry up, guys, because I begin to be very tired to wait after it, and I think seriously to use ZdoomGl instead of Legacy!!
Zdoom is made by ONE man, and it's well alive... The OpenGl version is made by ONE man and it's well alive... Jdoom is made by ONE man and it's well alive...
What are you doing during this time?!?
In the past, I had no problem to defend Legacy, when it was under attack. But today, I can't continue: the difference is too big, now, and NOTHING is happening since a too long time!!!
I know perfectly that you are all making it on your free time, but it's the same thing for the other ports, and those ones are well developped...

So, tell us WHEN it will be available, PLZ.

That said, I wish you a happy new year, and I want to thank you all for the great job made on Legacy.
It was the best port !

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Ok, I wasn't serious when I said that I think to leave Legacy, but... Today, Legacy is no more the best port, and here, I'm very serious!

Sorry to bug you with my
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Old December 28th, 2005, 07:09 AM   #7
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Zdoom is made by ONE man, and it's well alive... The OpenGl version is made by ONE man and it's well alive... Jdoom is made by ONE man and it's well alive...
What are you doing during this time?!?
In the past, I had no problem to defend Legacy, when it was under attack. But today, I can't continue: the difference is too big, now, and NOTHING is happening since a too long time!!!
I know perfectly that you are all making it on your free time, but it's the same thing for the other ports, and those ones are well developped...
I'm beginning to agree with Jive. Unfortunatly. Legacy has always been one of favorite ports, and still is. But the other ports seem to be getting new features at a much faster pace. And it makes it easier to get pulled away from Legacy.

PS: Try GZdoom
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Old December 28th, 2005, 08:48 AM   #8
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in the thirteenth, thirty eigth, sixty third, eighty eighth, one hundred thirteenth, one hundred thirty eighth, one hundred sixty third, one hundred eighty eighth, two hundred thirteenth, and two hundred thirty eighth "plz"s you put a space after "pl" and before "z." o...k... but ja, du bist.. uh.. right. we all want a legacy 2.0 alpha release, or something. ya.

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Old December 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM   #9
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Heh, there have been three alphas.

As for Legacy being dead, it's been rewritten from scratch. The bugged alphas have features not present in 1.42, like HeXen. Other ports were slow when they got rewrites too, like JDoom for example. That was a long time ago now though.

Speaking of features, I noticed those vanilla DooM 3D bridges work in 1.42, even in GL. When did that get slipped in?
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Old December 28th, 2005, 11:25 AM   #10
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I can't believe we're still getting comments and questions like these?

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Zdoom is made by ONE man, and it's well alive... The OpenGl version is made by ONE man and it's well alive... Jdoom is made by ONE man and it's well alive...
Well guess what? Legacy is currently being redone by ...wait for it... ONE man (no offence to the other contributers of course ).
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What are you doing during this time?!?
Smite is doing absolutely nothing, obviously. That is why 'nothing' is happening.

Seriously, do you expect a new thread and a news post about every bug that's squashed and feature that's implimented, regardless of how minor?

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Ok, I wasn't serious when I said that I think to leave Legacy, but... Today, Legacy is no more the best port, and here, I'm very serious!
Shame, better start tearing down DLW now then, eh? Since when was Legacy ever advertised as 'The Best Port'?

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All those "plz"es and stupid rolling smilies made me die a little on the inside...
Agreed.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 01:49 PM   #11
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Jive, do everyone a favor and STFU.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 03:40 PM   #12
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Old December 28th, 2005, 04:09 PM   #13
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It's true; there aren't a lot of people working on Legacy. Smite did most of the C++ porting and Hurdler has been busy with new graphics stuff (in addition to a dev job...). Other than that there have just been minor additions by guys like Darkwolf.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 05:06 PM   #14
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As others have pointed out, we more or less have only one person working on Legacy with the addition of Hurdlers work on the renderer. Neither are able to devote as much time as others port maintainers do.

I'm certain we are all greatful for the work that has been and will be done.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 08:53 PM   #15
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Old December 28th, 2005, 09:04 PM   #16
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Jive, do everyone a favor and STFU.
Darkwolf, do everyone a favor: SHUT UP !!!

Hey, I ask to the moderators a favor: can you tell this guy to leave me quiet?

And, of course, my post was a provocation...*rolleyes*
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Old December 28th, 2005, 10:44 PM   #17
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priorities?
I would say, if someone asked me (something that will never happen )

*Drop hi-color/hi-res textures!
*Concentrate in a simple opengl renderer! Or just use the old one.... if its possible. Just encapsulate the old functions. I think that this should have been the first step for a 2.0 version, because it seems to be the biggest issue the Legacy team has.
*Concentrate on the net code!
*Concentrate on the scripting engine!
*Forget everything else..



And we may have a winner......


In a last case, just continue to put some work on a possible 1.45 version.

Please, tell us when a POSSIBLE version will come out.. Just an aprox. date.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 10:53 PM   #18
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Old December 29th, 2005, 01:23 AM   #19
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Hey, I ask to the moderators a favor: can you tell this guy to leave me quiet?
Darkwolf, can you leave Jive quiet?
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Old December 29th, 2005, 01:27 AM   #20
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*Drop hi-color/hi-res textures!
*Concentrate in a simple opengl renderer! Or just use the old one.... if its possible. Just encapsulate the old functions. I think that this should have been the first step for a 2.0 version, because it seems to be the biggest issue the Legacy team has.
*Concentrate on the net code!
*Concentrate on the scripting engine!
*Forget everything else.
1. You better run after suggesting that, or boingo will be after you with face paint and a rubber nose!
2. The old one needed replacing. I imagine it would be just as much work to get the current renderer to work with 2.0 as it would be to write a new one.
3. Already being done.
4. Already being done (ACS Scripting).
5. What else is there?
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