Legacy Wiki Proposal

[DooMAD]

A few source ports seem to be launching wikis so that users can provide documentation, technical info and tutorials to people who are making wads. I think it would be useful for Legacy to have a wiki, particularly when 2.0 is released as there will be lots of new features to document.

I have a spare SQL database if there isn't a more suitable host. There are free hosts, but they tend to be very unreliable. I was planning to host Frades' Legacy Editing Manual, but Frades doesn't have enough spare time to write tutorials to cover everything in full detail all by himself. It would be nice to involve the developers and all the people who contribute to the CVS and make an official wiki to cover everything.

Primarily, this is just an idea at the moment, but if people would be interested in using such a resource and we can find a number of suitable people to moderate it, I think we could have a really successful project.

[Planky]

http://doom.wikicities.com
http://doom.wikicities.com/wiki/Doom_Legacy
http://doom.wikicities.com/wiki/FraggleScript

I dont see harm in using that wiki for your idea. Still, it would be nicer to have one on the actual legacy site. I could shift the faq to it and can the faq forum.

[DooMAD]

I know there's already lots of Legacy content on the Doom Wiki (partly because I've contributed to some of it ), but wikicities has been having alot of downtime lately. It's also quite handy to have as the main Legacy site isn't updated all that often. Having the FAQ on the Legacy site is a good point, but it could do far more than that. Every time someone submits a new FS function, or a new feature is added, someone just has to edit a wiki page. In short, everything you need to know about Legacy in one website.

[Planky]

Well, you have my support. Would mean no more having to look at that godawful DLER site of relliks anymore

Perhaps while it is being started, we limit who can add/edit articles until we get a good base to work from. Better still, set it up on your db and get it going then shift it to the main legacy site.

[DooMAD]

Originally Posted by Planky

...set it up on your db and get it going then shift it to the main legacy site.

Is that possible? mySQL databases on my server are set up with one of those admin control panel things, so unfortunately there isn't a database file that I can just copy from my FTP folder. Not one that I can find anyway, so if I set it up on my server, it may have to be there permanently.

[sLydE]

If need be, I have a dedicated server with plenty of webspace and transfer (1Tb/mo). If someone would like to put up for a domain, I would be glad to host whatever you guys need.

[Rellik_jmd]

Originally Posted by Planky

Well, you have my support. Would mean no more having to look at that godawful DLER site of relliks anymore

Oh yeah! Well Planky's got dry rot!

You're just asking for a lacquering aren't ya Balsa-boy?

[Aliotroph?]

Wikis are fun.

You guys should see the article about the first French empire on Wikipedia. It was lifted from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica and man is it BAD.

[Planky]

What, the first french empire or the article?

[Aliotroph?]

LOL The article mostly. It spends all its time ranting about Napolean and how evil/cool he was without bothering to talk about the bloody empire.

[g6672D]

Wiki = Good Idea. But it'd be better to have all the information about Legacy inside the actual documents as Planky said. Wish they'd been updated.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I give this Wiki idea three and a half big orange pumpkins! Which on the Pumpkinsmasher scale from one pumpkin seeds to Four and Three-quarters Green PumpkinSmashing Hammers, is pretty darn good.

Wikis are bad, but whatever you do i think you should make your own, (not use wikipedia or wikis).

you could easy make somthing with php (with or without mysql) where uses could edit pages, i suggest you only let members edit pages, as there is alot of open proxy users who would love to annoy people by editing.

it wont help moch if some one is using open proxys to ban him, he propley got a list with hundreds of proxy servers he can use togetter with a script.


and dont call it Wiki, it sounds like you are using or supporting Wikipedia.
it would be cool for any source port having a site where members can help making turtoials ETC, people who is not a member propley isent a part of the project, and shouldent be allowed to write turtoials.

im shure you can find some one to write you a script where those who want to help can make an account, and start writing turtoials. You would propley also want a search function. Shouldent be a problem with Mysql, it will work slow without i think.

[Planky]

Originally Posted by g6672D

Wiki = Good Idea. But it'd be better to have all the information about Legacy inside the actual documents as Planky said. Wish they'd been updated.

I never said that.

Originally Posted by HARNO

you could easy make somthing with php (with or without mysql) where uses could edit pages, i suggest you only let members edit pages, as there is alot of open proxy users who would love to annoy people by editing.

I suspect we won't allow anonymous access to the Legacy Wiki, but I dont think we should limit it to a certain group of editors - it defeats the purpose of being a wiki.

Originally Posted by HARNO

it would be cool for any source port having a site where members can help making turtoials ETC, people who is not a member propley isent a part of the project, and shouldent be allowed to write turtoials.

im shure you can find some one to write you a script where those who want to help can make an account, and start writing turtoials. You would propley also want a search function. Shouldent be a problem with Mysql, it will work slow without i think.

Why create a custom thing to do something wikimedia achieves quite nicely without any hassle?

[Aliotroph?]

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with Wikis. And no, it doesn't imply you're supporting Wikipedia (I wouldn't mind if it did). Wikis are quite clever and useful for projects. I've worked in a couple labs that used them to get stuff done. Very efficient, flexible and simple. No need to reinvent the wheel, only to have less functionality.

Vandalism is a problem in some cases, as are bad edits an revert wars, etc. These can be moderated.

[g6672D]

All it really comes down to is that the info provided is accurate. And more importantly, useful. I support either way as long as those two things are true.

Original from Planky

Still, it would be nicer to have one on the actual legacy site...

Sorry I misread your statement.

[The Undertaker]

We'll be okay as long as we avoid /.

[iori]

Originally Posted by HARNO

and dont call it Wiki, it sounds like you are using or supporting Wikipedia.

Wikipedia does not own the word wiki, it merely uses it. And so what if someone is uses Wikipedia, that's what it's there for.

[Planky]

Originally Posted by The Undertaker

We'll be okay as long as we avoid /.

heh


stupid fuckin character limit

so Wiki is not a part of Wikipedia?
i have seen sourceforge use Wikis to, i just foth that Wiki was orginal started by Wikipedia, and thats why they call it wikis.