Game Night - Page 3

kwigybo · October 10th, 2005, 02:33 AM

I wouldnt mind having a go at a Multiplayer game of doom2. All i need to do is just fix some stuff on my old computer and i can play on that smoothly becasue its just my GFX card a Stupid Legend 64Mi+ 2mb crap. i'm getten a 8mb so it will run smoothly.

Just two qestions...

Where is this server (what country)
What is the lag like for Modem 56kps, Broadband 256kps

rustyslacker · October 10th, 2005, 11:15 AM

I would say that the lag really sucks on 56k. Really really badly. Usually I ping way high, but on legacy all I could do was look around. I couldn't move, the lag was so bad.

Rellik_jmd · October 10th, 2005, 01:10 PM

Yeah you really need high-speed. Me and Rocket can play pretty much completely lag free.

Planky · October 10th, 2005, 01:29 PM

Bah, hopefully if I get a new job, I'll either join the gym, or get 2mbit intarweb. Which do you think is most likely, heh.

The Undertaker · October 10th, 2005, 02:10 PM

Gym. Broadband down there is a joke. 10GB cap then you they slow you down to 64kbps.

Planky · October 10th, 2005, 03:06 PM

You're telling me. The only good thing is free national traffic.

rustyslacker · October 10th, 2005, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rellik_jmd

Yeah you really need high-speed. Me and Rocket can play pretty much completely lag free.

That's not my choice, unfortunately. If only you could convince my dad....

MR_ROCKET · October 10th, 2005, 08:06 PM

And in this week's line up we have custom DM wads! The first in the list is my own map.
mrparadox.wad legacy version.
I choose this map partly because it's only 342kb + it rocks

heh I dig the forum upgrades :P

Well in any case, yee who can connect with a reasonable ping, see ya in the game hopefully

I'll leave it running..

Oh hey rusty, if you want, you can connect to download the wad. and if you cant play becuase of your current connection, you can run the map in DM mode and use the ADDBOT console command. last time I checked, it ran pretty good with bots..

kwigybo · October 10th, 2005, 08:41 PM

I'm use to lag now because i play other games like rainbow six 3 and mech warrior 3 and i could still kill the other ppl easy all i had to learn is LAG Shots which is like picking the lag of the person and shooting Where they expect to be.

Another Question
Ive got the original doom2.wad but like if u use the freedoom wad would it be able run even though the server is running the original wad. and if it is able would it be able to run the original maps???

MR_ROCKET · October 10th, 2005, 09:08 PM

Shooting where they are expected to be yes or, where you would expect them to be

Freedoom is an iwad, I'm pretty sure you should only run it like that for both client and server, as a solo iwad. same goes for Freedm.
So the answer to your question is no, you wouldn't want to connect to a server that's running Doom2 if you have Freedoom loaded, just like you don't want to have Heretic loaded and try connecting to a server running Doom. heh

This brings something else up, make sure if your hosting a server to include in the server name, which iwad your running. that way the client will know which iwad to select before hand.

Danimetal · October 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM

Now that Rocket is here and this is in another page I´ll try again :P. Mr Rocket, is there any way I can contact you?. I don´t get the PM to work and lost your mail adress.

kwigybo · October 11th, 2005, 12:56 AM

What if?
I can use NWT to put Doom2 Maps into the Freedoom iwad. It should work becasue the grapics and details are not a problem its just the original maps thats all. Just a Theory, thou u could be correct that Freedoom is a Iwad that can only run its own server

I'll get a ATX case and a LAN cable a test it...
i'll come back and tell yas.

(I really think that ur right rocket that u couldnt, but its worth a try)

MR_ROCKET · October 11th, 2005, 01:06 AM

danimetal : NO!
hehehe..why whats up man?

kwigybo, I'm not sure what your wanting to do..or why you would be wanting to..you might want to ask rellik..and let him tell it..because the next thing you might do is try to sell it..yo :P

I think what you might want to do though is make a pwad for freedoom?
/me does a little shuffle..

Danimetal · October 11th, 2005, 01:49 AM

Getting lost, I assume that was an answer to some other question :P. Anyway, do you mind if I use the "Megawad" banner you made to link Doom_Dude´s site with my own site?. Could you be interested in crosslinking with my site?. I´ll wait for your reply before making any changes to the site.

About hosting a custom map. I remember that Legacy will instantly download the map and stuff (don´t know what folder it will use though) but, will it display some message about it?. I´m starting to think that all these times I tried to connect and waited for a long time with no results could be due to that downloading.

MR_ROCKET · October 11th, 2005, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danimetal

Getting lost, I assume that was an answer to some other question :P. Anyway, do you mind if I use the "Megawad" banner you made to link Doom_Dude´s site with my own site?. Could you be interested in crosslinking with my site?. I´ll wait for your reply before making any changes to the site.

Yeah no problem man, actually I was planning on messaging you about that the other day, because I'v already fixed up a link to your site, its right above the team hell spawn link in the list of links at my site lol - but i need to fix it up a little.

Quote:

About hosting a custom map. I remember that Legacy will instantly download the map and stuff (don´t know what folder it will use though) but, will it display some message about it?. I´m starting to think that all these times I tried to connect and waited for a long time with no results could be due to that downloading.

yes the first time legacy auto downloads a map, it creates a Downloads folder in your legacy directory. and yes it will show the download progress in the console.
this is the first time in the past week since iv had the server running that I decided to add a pwad. but I know what you mean. depending on the connection you may just not be able to connect to some servers. but in your case, I probably was asleep, you see its really late over here right now 4:21 am, I'm off today and I'm sick as a dog heh - anyways the server probably just wasnt running :\ but if you do connect, the downloadable file is only 342kb so it shouldnt take no time, even for a dialup connection..

kwigybo · October 11th, 2005, 02:26 AM

Ok i found out that i can Extract all of the DOOM2 Maps into a .raw and .wad
And i can change the Freedoom maps from the .raw file and valor it works but i havent tested it on a network yet. hmmmm the big test. i wonder if this would be much easier i just get freedoom and load legacy and just type in console Add file maps.wad. i wonder if that work i'll tect them later.

Sorry for bringing yous off the topic but like u just wonder about thing that ya can edit.

But i'll keep it to my self.

I might as well build a mod if i'm going to do this much editing to the doom2.wad. (No i wont sell it i'll just make it for ppl who actuly have the doom2.wad or freedoom)

But anyways back on topic (kinda), How many players really play on your server Rocket? and where do u get custom skins from???

MR_ROCKET · October 11th, 2005, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwigybo

Ok i found out that i can Extract all of the DOOM2 Maps into a .raw and .wad
And i can change the Freedoom maps from the .raw file and valor it works but i havent tested it on a network yet. hmmmm the big test. i wonder if this would be much easier i just get freedoom and load legacy and just type in console Add file maps.wad. i wonder if that work i'll tect them later.

Sorry for bringing yous off the topic but like u just wonder about thing that ya can edit.

But i'll keep it to my self.

I might as well build a mod if i'm going to do this much editing to the doom2.wad. (No i wont sell it i'll just make it for ppl who actuly have the doom2.wad or freedoom)

But anyways back on topic (kinda), How many players really play on your server Rocket? and where do u get custom skins from???

heh ok, well as long as you dont modifiy any wads then I dont care what you do.
I'm not sure what kind of editing you think you should be doing, but you dont edit the iwads. You start from scratch in an empty grid area and biuld it from the ground up, at least thats the way I'v always done it.

About my server, not alot yet, It's only been somewhat visable about a week. hmm about 2-3 games a day so far.

kwigybo · October 11th, 2005, 03:37 AM

Where is this server(country), because and when does it come on (time).

Because I can normally tell the latency i'm going to get from where the country is,

Because normally with 56kps
Europe = 512ms
North America = 476ms
South America = 432ms
Asia = 476 (same as North America)
Ociania = 250ms
Local Internet Server = 156ms
NOTE: these are all averages and has been tested on a MAXED OUT modem Complete 56kps, and been tested in Rural Australia.
NOTE: These server had the connection of 512kps and i was running a simple Program That uses to test latency between servers and clients.

Even this doesnt matters to you what so ever i would really like to know about the the questions i made.

MR_ROCKET · October 11th, 2005, 03:52 AM

North America - around 6-10pm GMT central east USA
The Megasphere server
http://legacy.newdoom.com/dlms_status.php

It does matter, it's just not clear for me to understand what your saying with some of your questions, but I try to answer them the best I can.

Danimetal · October 11th, 2005, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_ROCKET

Yeah no problem man, actually I was planning on messaging you about that the other day, because I'v already fixed up a link to your site, its right above the team hell spawn link in the list of links at my site lol - but i need to fix it up a little.

Great

!!!. Prepare yourself to be linked. IÂ´ll prepare yours and Doom_DudeÂ´s right now!... IÂ´ll think of more people to contact, specially Doom Legacy lovers like Jive (that would give me a good excuse to mail him and ask how heÂ´s doing

).

October 10th, 2005, 08:06 PM	#48
MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	And in this week's line up we have custom DM wads! The first in the list is my own map. mrparadox.wad legacy version. I choose this map partly because it's only 342kb + it rocks heh I dig the forum upgrades :P Well in any case, yee who can connect with a reasonable ping, see ya in the game hopefully I'll leave it running.. Oh hey rusty, if you want, you can connect to download the wad. and if you cant play becuase of your current connection, you can run the map in DM mode and use the ADDBOT console command. last time I checked, it ran pretty good with bots.. __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=- Last edited by MR_ROCKET; October 10th, 2005 at 09:28 PM.

October 10th, 2005, 09:08 PM	#50
MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	Shooting where they are expected to be yes or, where you would expect them to be Freedoom is an iwad, I'm pretty sure you should only run it like that for both client and server, as a solo iwad. same goes for Freedm. So the answer to your question is no, you wouldn't want to connect to a server that's running Doom2 if you have Freedoom loaded, just like you don't want to have Heretic loaded and try connecting to a server running Doom. heh This brings something else up, make sure if your hosting a server to include in the server name, which iwad your running. that way the client will know which iwad to select before hand. __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=-

October 11th, 2005, 01:06 AM	#53
MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	danimetal : NO! hehehe..why whats up man? kwigybo, I'm not sure what your wanting to do..or why you would be wanting to..you might want to ask rellik..and let him tell it..because the next thing you might do is try to sell it..yo :P I think what you might want to do though is make a pwad for freedoom? /me does a little shuffle.. __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=- Last edited by MR_ROCKET; October 11th, 2005 at 02:00 AM.

October 11th, 2005, 01:49 AM	#54
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	Getting lost, I assume that was an answer to some other question :P. Anyway, do you mind if I use the "Megawad" banner you made to link Doom_Dude´s site with my own site?. Could you be interested in crosslinking with my site?. I´ll wait for your reply before making any changes to the site. About hosting a custom map. I remember that Legacy will instantly download the map and stuff (don´t know what folder it will use though) but, will it display some message about it?. I´m starting to think that all these times I tried to connect and waited for a long time with no results could be due to that downloading. Last edited by Danimetal; October 11th, 2005 at 01:57 AM.

October 11th, 2005, 03:52 AM	#59
MR_ROCKET Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere between Space and Time Posts: 5,185	North America - around 6-10pm GMT central east USA The Megasphere server http://legacy.newdoom.com/dlms_status.php It does matter, it's just not clear for me to understand what your saying with some of your questions, but I try to answer them the best I can. __________________ -=\|> The Megasphere <\|> My Maps direct link <\|> Doom Connector <\|> MEGA 5 <\|=-

October 10th, 2005, 02:33 AM	#41
kwigybo Commander Keen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 15	I wouldnt mind having a go at a Multiplayer game of doom2. All i need to do is just fix some stuff on my old computer and i can play on that smoothly becasue its just my GFX card a Stupid Legend 64Mi+ 2mb crap. i'm getten a 8mb so it will run smoothly. Just two qestions... Where is this server (what country) What is the lag like for Modem 56kps, Broadband 256kps

October 10th, 2005, 11:15 AM	#42
rustyslacker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Some unclosed sector Posts: 4,663	I would say that the lag really sucks on 56k. Really really badly. Usually I ping way high, but on legacy all I could do was look around. I couldn't move, the lag was so bad.

October 10th, 2005, 01:10 PM	#43
Rellik_jmd Commander Keen Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Southern Alberta Posts: 766	Yeah you really need high-speed. Me and Rocket can play pretty much completely lag free.

October 10th, 2005, 01:29 PM	#44
Planky Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,401	Bah, hopefully if I get a new job, I'll either join the gym, or get 2mbit intarweb. Which do you think is most likely, heh.

October 10th, 2005, 02:10 PM	#45
The Undertaker Commander Keen Join Date: May 2001 Location: To your left Posts: 1,999	Gym. Broadband down there is a joke. 10GB cap then you they slow you down to 64kbps.

October 10th, 2005, 03:06 PM	#46
Planky Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,401	You're telling me. The only good thing is free national traffic.

October 10th, 2005, 08:41 PM	#49
kwigybo Commander Keen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 15	I'm use to lag now because i play other games like rainbow six 3 and mech warrior 3 and i could still kill the other ppl easy all i had to learn is LAG Shots which is like picking the lag of the person and shooting Where they expect to be. Another Question Ive got the original doom2.wad but like if u use the freedoom wad would it be able run even though the server is running the original wad. and if it is able would it be able to run the original maps???

October 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM	#51
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	Now that Rocket is here and this is in another page I´ll try again :P. Mr Rocket, is there any way I can contact you?. I don´t get the PM to work and lost your mail adress.

October 11th, 2005, 12:56 AM	#52
kwigybo Commander Keen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 15	What if? I can use NWT to put Doom2 Maps into the Freedoom iwad. It should work becasue the grapics and details are not a problem its just the original maps thats all. Just a Theory, thou u could be correct that Freedoom is a Iwad that can only run its own server I'll get a ATX case and a LAN cable a test it... i'll come back and tell yas. (I really think that ur right rocket that u couldnt, but its worth a try)

October 11th, 2005, 02:26 AM	#56
kwigybo Commander Keen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 15	Ok i found out that i can Extract all of the DOOM2 Maps into a .raw and .wad And i can change the Freedoom maps from the .raw file and valor it works but i havent tested it on a network yet. hmmmm the big test. i wonder if this would be much easier i just get freedoom and load legacy and just type in console Add file maps.wad. i wonder if that work i'll tect them later. Sorry for bringing yous off the topic but like u just wonder about thing that ya can edit. But i'll keep it to my self. I might as well build a mod if i'm going to do this much editing to the doom2.wad. (No i wont sell it i'll just make it for ppl who actuly have the doom2.wad or freedoom) But anyways back on topic (kinda), How many players really play on your server Rocket? and where do u get custom skins from???

October 11th, 2005, 03:37 AM	#58
kwigybo Commander Keen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 15	Where is this server(country), because and when does it come on (time). Because I can normally tell the latency i'm going to get from where the country is, Because normally with 56kps Europe = 512ms North America = 476ms South America = 432ms Asia = 476 (same as North America) Ociania = 250ms Local Internet Server = 156ms NOTE: these are all averages and has been tested on a MAXED OUT modem Complete 56kps, and been tested in Rural Australia. NOTE: These server had the connection of 512kps and i was running a simple Program That uses to test latency between servers and clients. Even this doesnt matters to you what so ever i would really like to know about the the questions i made.

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