Doom graphics

psyren · April 20th, 2005, 08:24 AM

To subjects really:

First, I made a red Doom2 font for use with Bitmap Font Writer. It's already transparent and uses the Doom palette. Makes building map name graphics very easy.

http://numerometria.com/D2RBFR.zip (18Kb) This has 3 Doom fonts: large red, large silver, and small silver to match CWILV graphics.

(The "." and "( )" don't work as I don't understand the ASCII code BFR uses, but all the numbers and letters work.)

Second, I am wondering if anyone has, or can make me a .bmp of the 256 color Doom palette?

Since I am not very sophisticated, and just use Windows MSPaint to make new textures and such, it would be really cool to have the complete palette to pick colors from, and I cannot export it as a bitmap, only as .pal.

Foolishly, I took a screenshot and converted it with another program, applying the jasc palette. After several hours of pixel by pixel painting, I isolated 185 colors, but I want the whole thing.

Please help if you can.

Thanx

Conner94 · April 24th, 2005, 07:26 AM

Great! I will use this in my project!

jetflock · April 29th, 2005, 06:26 AM

you can easily make a bmp pallette using the now abandonware PC PAINTBRUSH. if you don't have photoshop for doom editing, this is the next best thing.

psyren · April 29th, 2005, 11:37 AM

Thank you jetflock.

I will try that and see what it can do. If it works, then I'll be able to post a .bmp with all the proper Doom colors.

I think this would be very useful for those of us who don't have ( or know how to use! ) those sophisticated image editing tools.

Edit:
I could not find this program. One link said it was "Imageforge" which I downloaded several months ago and never tried.

Opening this for the first time, it seems there are many more tools I could use, but I could not find any way to export the Doom bitmap. I need more help.

Edit2: You know? If you could tell me how to do this it would be a big help.

FATAL · April 29th, 2005, 12:56 PM

I'm not quite sure, but would just extracting some sprite or texture from doom create a bmp with the correct pallete?

DeusExMachina · May 24th, 2005, 03:14 AM

cudn't you like open the .pal file in sum program like PaintShop Pro, an then save it as a bitmap?

psyren · May 26th, 2005, 05:10 AM

One thing I discovered is that the palette really only has 249 colors, so I wasn't as far away from complete as I thought. Still no idea why some of the colors are duplicates.

I tried saving the palette as a bitmap, but Paint wouldn't let me do that. I did finish this by going through each color of the palette and copying the RGB values, then entering them one by one to paint a square of each. What a pain! The complete .bmp is available here at the bottom of my XWE tutorial:
http://numerometria.com/XWE.htm

Danimetal · May 30th, 2005, 10:02 AM

I didnÂ´t know about that little program, but itÂ´s lovely

. Thanks also for sharing your fonts since it will make life a lot easier in the intermission screens

... I wonder where I can get more bitmap fonts... Also I saw the Doom palette uploaded somewhere, maybe in the LegacyÂ´s editing resource, but itÂ´s a little too late for that, isnÂ´t it?.

DeusExMachina · June 10th, 2005, 09:08 AM

Can't you just open up XWE, and go into the image editing bit, and print-screen the palette?

April 20th, 2005, 08:24 AM	#1
psyren Commander Keen Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: RJ, Brasil Posts: 635	Doom graphics To subjects really: First, I made a red Doom2 font for use with Bitmap Font Writer. It's already transparent and uses the Doom palette. Makes building map name graphics very easy. http://numerometria.com/D2RBFR.zip (18Kb) This has 3 Doom fonts: large red, large silver, and small silver to match CWILV graphics. (The "." and "( )" don't work as I don't understand the ASCII code BFR uses, but all the numbers and letters work.) Second, I am wondering if anyone has, or can make me a .bmp of the 256 color Doom palette? Since I am not very sophisticated, and just use Windows MSPaint to make new textures and such, it would be really cool to have the complete palette to pick colors from, and I cannot export it as a bitmap, only as .pal. Foolishly, I took a screenshot and converted it with another program, applying the jasc palette. After several hours of pixel by pixel painting, I isolated 185 colors, but I want the whole thing. Please help if you can. Thanx Last edited by psyren; April 20th, 2005 at 10:59 AM.

April 29th, 2005, 11:37 AM	#4
psyren Commander Keen Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: RJ, Brasil Posts: 635	Thank you jetflock. I will try that and see what it can do. If it works, then I'll be able to post a .bmp with all the proper Doom colors. I think this would be very useful for those of us who don't have ( or know how to use! ) those sophisticated image editing tools. Edit: I could not find this program. One link said it was "Imageforge" which I downloaded several months ago and never tried. Opening this for the first time, it seems there are many more tools I could use, but I could not find any way to export the Doom bitmap. I need more help. Edit2: You know? If you could tell me how to do this it would be a big help. Last edited by psyren; April 29th, 2005 at 12:11 PM.

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April 24th, 2005, 07:26 AM	#2
Conner94 Commander Keen Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27	Great! I will use this in my project!

April 29th, 2005, 06:26 AM	#3
jetflock Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,381	you can easily make a bmp pallette using the now abandonware PC PAINTBRUSH. if you don't have photoshop for doom editing, this is the next best thing.

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FATAL Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 7,429	I'm not quite sure, but would just extracting some sprite or texture from doom create a bmp with the correct pallete?

May 24th, 2005, 03:14 AM	#6
DeusExMachina Commander Keen Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 686	cudn't you like open the .pal file in sum program like PaintShop Pro, an then save it as a bitmap?

May 26th, 2005, 05:10 AM	#7
psyren Commander Keen Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: RJ, Brasil Posts: 635	One thing I discovered is that the palette really only has 249 colors, so I wasn't as far away from complete as I thought. Still no idea why some of the colors are duplicates. I tried saving the palette as a bitmap, but Paint wouldn't let me do that. I did finish this by going through each color of the palette and copying the RGB values, then entering them one by one to paint a square of each. What a pain! The complete .bmp is available here at the bottom of my XWE tutorial: http://numerometria.com/XWE.htm

May 30th, 2005, 10:02 AM	#8
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	I didnÂ´t know about that little program, but itÂ´s lovely . Thanks also for sharing your fonts since it will make life a lot easier in the intermission screens ... I wonder where I can get more bitmap fonts... Also I saw the Doom palette uploaded somewhere, maybe in the LegacyÂ´s editing resource, but itÂ´s a little too late for that, isnÂ´t it?.

June 10th, 2005, 09:08 AM	#9
DeusExMachina Commander Keen Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 686	Can't you just open up XWE, and go into the image editing bit, and print-screen the palette?

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