Star Trek No More?

[Big_al]

Star Trek: Enterprise Cancelled

Wonder if they will be another spin off show?

Although they have done it to death over the last few years.

[FreonTrip]

I'd be willing to get that another Star Trek series will be made, but it will need to be put off for a while. Between the mediocre Enterprise, Voyager, and the last couple of films, the series needs time to get back onto its feet again. It might also be nice to have scripts regularly written by actual science fiction writers, or for the show to be more conceptually adventurous. If it has to migrate to cable-only channels to achieve some of these goals, then so be it.

[Boingo the Clown]

I knew Star Trek was in trouble ten years ago, the first time I heard them refer to it as a franchise.

My first thoughts upon hearing that was, "Do you want fries with that?".

[iori]

Yeah I knew Enterprise would be cancelled... it didnt have the momentum to carry itself for the full 7 seasons. Bad stories and a worse premise, if focussed on sex appeal and action to widen it's viewer base. All the continuity flaws and crappy episodes put me off, and I hope paramount sees that Rick Berman is a crappy Creator/Exec. Producer. Paramount needs to find another Gene Roddenberry (not gonna happen), and fast.

[Aliotroph?]

Between Rick Berman and Brannon Braga, that show was doomed. They don't have a clue, probably because they think of Trek as a franchise like Boingo mentioned.

Enterprise sounded like the coolest idea ever when it came out. At that point it was obvious they'd run out of ideas for Voyager. So a prequel sounded cool. The way they hyped it, we would be getting stories about alliance building, starships that don't work, WTF is a first contact about, the Earth-Romulan war, founding of the Federation, etc. What we got instead was more old Voyager plots redone with different techno-babble, more blinky lights, and some sex and violence whenever the script was too short.

So then they tried to fix it with a war arc, lots of action, a different title, WAY more sex, and a revised theme song. The action was ok, but the plots only held up half the time. The sex was BLEAGHISH.

Now they got a new guy running it day to day. Those stories about building stuff are starting to happen and it's neat, but way too late.

FreonTrip is right. Trek will work when you have some good sci-fi writers doing stuff for it and the contrived crap is dropped.

[iori]

Originally Posted by Aliotroph?

Now they got a new guy running it day to day. Those stories about building stuff are starting to happen and it's neat, but way too late.

What new guy? In the creative staff, or in the show itself?

EDIT: Nevermind, answered it myself - Manny Coto.

[NTG56]

ah i always thought enterprise was kinda doomed. i think the whole war thing killed it cuz everybody was watching the REAL war on the news and on enterprise they wanted to see all the stuff Aliotroph said, not more war.

[XDelusion]

That show was some of the best Star Trek I've seen since Next Generation. The masses have bad taste is all.

[Doom_Dude]

TNG was cool but it also had some lame eps. I like DS9 a lot and thought it had some of the best characters. Voyager was ok and I rarely watched Enterprise. I think after DS9 went tits up I started to lose interest and just recently started to watch Star Trek again. Meh, they need to do something different. I want to see a series set on a Klingon war vessel and call it... Today Is A Good Day To Die.

[Boingo the Clown]

Originally Posted by XDelusion

That show was some of the best Star Trek I've seen since Next Generation. The masses have bad taste is all.

You actually thought Next Gen was good?

Their motto was "To blandly go where Kirk has already gone before".

[Nephil]

TNG was the last good Enterprise story line. And the best one ever, imo. All hail Capt. Picard!
Noone played the role of the captain as good as he did!

[iori]

Originally Posted by Nephil

No one played the role of the captain as good as he did!

Amen. to that

[Aliotroph?]

TNG has a lot of the best Trek episodes ever. The fifth and sixth seasons were really good. The first two seaons sucked. Lots of good episodes though like "Who Watches the Watchers", "Yesterday's Enterprise", "Chain of Command", "The Best of Both Worlds", "Darmok", "The Inner Light", "Cause and Effect", just to name a few I really liked.

I agree with DD. DS9 rules with its awesome characters.

I think it would be fun to do a Trek show where instead of a big fancy ship it was set about 20 years before Kirk's time on a repurposed old container ship with a jury-rigged warp 5 engine. Inject a bit of Firefly into Trek and it'll be all kinds of fun.

[Big_al]

Maybe they could do a show on a non-human ship?

[Boingo the Clown]

Actually, an idea I had thought of was for a show that is a collection of stories that take place within the Star Trek Universe, but without a set group of characters. One week the show might be about a remote Klingon outpost, the next week it would be about a little Andorian girl and her experiences growing up, and the next week it could be about a primative culture that observes a massive space battle in orbit of their planet. There is a lot of fertile ground in this idea. It could even lead to spin offs, if some characters and stories prove to be popular. The idea is not even limited to one time frame either. There can be stories from the Earth-Romulan war for example, stories of the great warriors of Vulcan's past, before Surak, or stories of the Federation in the 28th century.

[NTG56]

I thought TNG was good, i havent really kept up on the series after that, ill have to see if they have reruns on TNT or something...

Inject a bit of Firefly into Trek and it'll be all kinds of fun.

Awsome to see that someone else has seen this show!

I also think a series with some beater ship or one following like the Borg or the Klingons would be a fresh view...definatly something i would watch.

[Doom_Dude]

I wonder what they will do next, if anything...

I agree that Picard was the best Captain.

[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, I heard Boingo's anthology show idea on some other forums before. That would be neat. Also would either have crap production values or cost a fortune. :/

Yeah, I saw Firefly alright. I still want to drop a nuke on Fox over that show's demise.

[Doom_Dude]

Originally Posted by Aliotroph?

Hehe, I heard Boingo's anthology show idea on some other forums before. That would be neat. Also would either have crap production values or cost a fortune. :/

I had a similar idea that would take place on 4 or 5 different ships and they would rotate the shows around them. I suppose it would cost too much... oh well, back to reruns and crappy shows like that Galactica remake series. heh

[XDelusion]

Well the 1st 2 seasons of next gen were so so, but it got real good I thought. I always liked Patrick Stewart, he's in a lot of classic horror and sci-fi films from the 70's and 80's. Perfect pick.