Vile Flesh, Doom Legacy version, is released

Jive · December 24th, 2004, 04:22 AM

Merry Christmas to you all and your family!

As a gift, I offer to you my Doom Legacy version of Vile Flesh , originally created by

Gwyn Williams (and also FragPort, by Stephen Clark, and R2WolfII by Scott's brothers).
I said that I'll release it on 25th December...

I''m pretty sure that some bugs will appear here and there.

WARNING:
It seems that Doom Legacy has 2 remaining very annoying bugs:
1) the first one is to don't save the Fragglescripted lightnings within the saved game file, which means that, for example, if you save Map29, you'll see the fragglescripted effects on the lightnings of the very first Fragglescript ever used, which is here the one of the Map24. On Map27, one lighing was green and bright. On Map29, I changed these values in order to obtain a less shiny light, colored in grey yellow. Once reloaded, the saved game will have the bright green color!!!

2) Some triggers don't work properly sometimes, and finely some other times... On Map23, there are 2 fences, moving up and down depending of your decision to close or to open the corridors, when you have the red key. I had a saved game with the impossibility to activate them, and another one working perfectly well. Gwyn had to suffer of this same bug.
Another example of this bug: on Map27, there is a transparent elevator, activated by a red button. It's working perfectly well for me, but Gwyn had the impossibility to activate it.

All of these bugs will be corrected for the Doom Legacy C++ version. So, until its release, you'll have to live with them...

Anyway, everybody knows thet a good player don't save his game before the exit, heh?

That said, when you will reach the level 23, which is the last one not using Fragglescript, I suggest to save the game once you will be at the exit point, and to NEVER save your progression while you are not at the exit point for the next levels.
Always save your game at the end of the levels, and never before, otherwise you will have wrongly fragglescripted lightings!!!

Jive · December 24th, 2004, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Hello everybody!
Glad to know you'r using our ftp server. But I have a little request. Please, do not use "multistream" downloaders. We have set up our server to allow certain number of simultanious connections and using such downloaders sometimes block other users from accessing the ftp server.
Please respect other users. Please respect Jive and his work. And... Merry Christmass to you and your families!

Vessemir..............................

Danimetal · December 24th, 2004, 08:12 PM

Merry Christmas Jive and family and all the people around here

. May these days bring you peace, comfort and good vibes

.

Jonny · December 25th, 2004, 03:04 AM

good vibes indeed baby! this new zealander got drunk with canadians and played ( a very little bit ) of "inferno" this christmas.

kick ass indeed. thanks for the wonderful maps.

Doom_Dude · December 25th, 2004, 06:51 AM

Coolness. I'll download this and play it later on sometime today if I get a chance.

Monkey · December 27th, 2004, 04:39 PM

Sweet map, Jive. I've been playing it all of today. For some reason the map design seems filmiliar... hmm...

Jive · December 27th, 2004, 06:15 PM

filmiliar?!?
What does that mean?

Monkey · January 2nd, 2005, 10:37 PM

"Familiar", sorry about the misspelling...
As if I had played something similar to it in the past, or as if it the kind of map I would design myself.

Jive · January 11th, 2005, 03:43 AM

I received NO comment about it...
You didn't like it?!?

Danimetal · January 11th, 2005, 05:47 AM

IÂ´m still through the old version so I wonÂ´t comment until I play the Legacy one... Anyway, IÂ´m gonna do a little exception and play it without finishing the old version. IÂ´ve got it in my computer so IÂ´ll do it

.
Got a question for you, by the way. Do I need to use all those .deh files inside the docs folder???. I remeber VileFlesh having a .deh file which is not into the Legacy version so... What do I do?.
By the way, did you took a look at the wads I sent you?.
Expect my comments as soon as I finish it but... Well, I will not be able to compare your work with the original.

Jive · January 12th, 2005, 03:40 AM

I have the use to incorporate the needed deh file within the pwads, so you don't need to worry about it. I put it in the "Doc" folder to let you have the possibility to look at it, nothing else.
About your own stuff, it seems that something wrong happened with my anti-spam tool, but this kind of problem must be debated on PM...

Danimetal · January 27th, 2005, 05:18 AM

Damn!. This Vileflesh is putting me through SERIOUS trouble!. IÂ´m only in map 6 or 7, the labs... Loads of chaingunners and revenants make the level almost impossible to win without saving (shame I donÂ´t like to save in these kind of megawads :P)!!!. As far as I see, the original levels are cool and, having not played the original I donÂ´t know what to say about the conversion. Anyhow, Gwyn Williams knew what "Ultra-Violence" means when doing these levels!. Sometimes, the difficult of them is just too hard, unbalanced. IÂ´m thinking about switching autoaim and crosshairs on or I will never win in these levels!.

Jive · January 29th, 2005, 05:14 PM

What do you say?!?
I didn't touch at the gameplay, nor at the level of difficulty, nor at the number or quality of the monsters!!!
My work is only graphical and architectural.
So, the difficulty has NOT been changed!!!

Danimetal · January 29th, 2005, 09:27 PM

Please Jive, do not misunderstand me

. I never intended to say that!. I mean, if you read the post you will se that I wrote "Gwin Williams knew what ultra-violence means". So, I just said that itÂ´s damn difficult for me and never wanted to say that you changed ANY setting of the gameplay itself. IÂ´ve followed the development of the Vileflesh Legacy version through its thread, looked at the images you set up and well, I didnÂ´t know what Vileflesh was about but knew that your aim was to do architectural and graphical enhancements Â´cos you wrote it.
Hope I have not offended you or Gwin with that comment, it was not my aim. I just wanted to let people know that I find it difficult.
That said, IÂ´m through level 11 and IÂ´m really enjoying it

. Good work.

Jive · January 31st, 2005, 03:51 PM

Difficult?!?
Nah!!!
Not easy: yes! I have the use to play without auto-aim, but with a crosshair.
And I'm absolutely not offended.

Danimetal · February 1st, 2005, 01:14 AM

The crosshair makes absolutely the difference I think. I started to play VileFlesh without it and well, in large areas chaingunners made prey of me Â´cos I wasnÂ´t able to hit them. IÂ´m getting into playing without crosshair now, in level 12 but if I ever find myself in serious trouble again I will turn my crosshair on.
Of course, this only reflects how a bad Doom player I am.

Jive · February 1st, 2005, 01:40 AM

I don't think so! Playing without a crosshair must be a pain! Personnaly, I have always found that chainguners were too much efficient...

Danimetal · February 1st, 2005, 01:57 AM

ThatÂ´s what I meant from the start buddy

. Stupid chaingunners... I hate them!!!. Gonna play a little more now

.

Jive · February 4th, 2005, 02:53 AM

Monkey and danimetal are the only ones to make a comment...
Legacy is dead?
This thread was viewed 667 times, so... A possible conclusion is that my work didn't please you!!!

shinobi · February 4th, 2005, 10:54 AM

Well, i liked it; I've never been a fan of colored lightning but in some places it looks cool. Slow on my computer i have now (Compaq Presario 7453, CPU is an AMD k6-2) but looks good anyway. I have to run it on 320x200

I'm just on level 5, i still have to look to those fragglescripted levels... But looks good by now.

December 24th, 2004, 04:22 AM	#1
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	Vile Flesh, Doom Legacy version, is released Merry Christmas to you all and your family! As a gift, I offer to you my Doom Legacy version of Vile Flesh , originally created by Gwyn Williams (and also FragPort, by Stephen Clark, and R2WolfII by Scott's brothers). I said that I'll release it on 25th December... I''m pretty sure that some bugs will appear here and there. WARNING: It seems that Doom Legacy has 2 remaining very annoying bugs: 1) the first one is to don't save the Fragglescripted lightnings within the saved game file, which means that, for example, if you save Map29, you'll see the fragglescripted effects on the lightnings of the very first Fragglescript ever used, which is here the one of the Map24. On Map27, one lighing was green and bright. On Map29, I changed these values in order to obtain a less shiny light, colored in grey yellow. Once reloaded, the saved game will have the bright green color!!! 2) Some triggers don't work properly sometimes, and finely some other times... On Map23, there are 2 fences, moving up and down depending of your decision to close or to open the corridors, when you have the red key. I had a saved game with the impossibility to activate them, and another one working perfectly well. Gwyn had to suffer of this same bug. Another example of this bug: on Map27, there is a transparent elevator, activated by a red button. It's working perfectly well for me, but Gwyn had the impossibility to activate it. All of these bugs will be corrected for the Doom Legacy C++ version. So, until its release, you'll have to live with them... Anyway, everybody knows thet a good player don't save his game before the exit, heh? That said, when you will reach the level 23, which is the last one not using Fragglescript, I suggest to save the game once you will be at the exit point, and to NEVER save your progression while you are not at the exit point for the next levels. Always save your game at the end of the levels, and never before, otherwise you will have wrongly fragglescripted lightings!!! __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002) Last edited by Jive; December 24th, 2004 at 05:02 AM.

December 25th, 2004, 06:51 AM	#5
Doom_Dude Spazztronik Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 10,520	Coolness. I'll download this and play it later on sometime today if I get a chance. __________________ ► The Megawad Outpost ◄►Levels on WIP ◄►DeviantArt◄

December 27th, 2004, 06:15 PM	#7
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	filmiliar?!? What does that mean? __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

January 11th, 2005, 03:43 AM	#9
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	I received NO comment about it... You didn't like it?!? __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

January 12th, 2005, 03:40 AM	#11
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	I have the use to incorporate the needed deh file within the pwads, so you don't need to worry about it. I put it in the "Doc" folder to let you have the possibility to look at it, nothing else. About your own stuff, it seems that something wrong happened with my anti-spam tool, but this kind of problem must be debated on PM... __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

December 24th, 2004, 08:12 PM	#3
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	Merry Christmas Jive and family and all the people around here . May these days bring you peace, comfort and good vibes .

December 25th, 2004, 03:04 AM	#4
Jonny Commander Keen Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 183	good vibes indeed baby! this new zealander got drunk with canadians and played ( a very little bit ) of "inferno" this christmas. kick ass indeed. thanks for the wonderful maps.

December 27th, 2004, 04:39 PM	#6
Monkey Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: The Long Forgotten Pants of REoL Posts: 363	Sweet map, Jive. I've been playing it all of today. For some reason the map design seems filmiliar... hmm...

January 2nd, 2005, 10:37 PM	#8
Monkey Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: The Long Forgotten Pants of REoL Posts: 363	"Familiar", sorry about the misspelling... As if I had played something similar to it in the past, or as if it the kind of map I would design myself.

January 11th, 2005, 05:47 AM	#10
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	IÂ´m still through the old version so I wonÂ´t comment until I play the Legacy one... Anyway, IÂ´m gonna do a little exception and play it without finishing the old version. IÂ´ve got it in my computer so IÂ´ll do it . Got a question for you, by the way. Do I need to use all those .deh files inside the docs folder???. I remeber VileFlesh having a .deh file which is not into the Legacy version so... What do I do?. By the way, did you took a look at the wads I sent you?. Expect my comments as soon as I finish it but... Well, I will not be able to compare your work with the original.

January 27th, 2005, 05:18 AM	#12
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	Damn!. This Vileflesh is putting me through SERIOUS trouble!. IÂ´m only in map 6 or 7, the labs... Loads of chaingunners and revenants make the level almost impossible to win without saving (shame I donÂ´t like to save in these kind of megawads :P)!!!. As far as I see, the original levels are cool and, having not played the original I donÂ´t know what to say about the conversion. Anyhow, Gwyn Williams knew what "Ultra-Violence" means when doing these levels!. Sometimes, the difficult of them is just too hard, unbalanced. IÂ´m thinking about switching autoaim and crosshairs on or I will never win in these levels!.

January 29th, 2005, 05:14 PM	#13
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	What do you say?!? I didn't touch at the gameplay, nor at the level of difficulty, nor at the number or quality of the monsters!!! My work is only graphical and architectural. So, the difficulty has NOT been changed!!! __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

January 29th, 2005, 09:27 PM	#14
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	Please Jive, do not misunderstand me . I never intended to say that!. I mean, if you read the post you will se that I wrote "Gwin Williams knew what ultra-violence means". So, I just said that itÂ´s damn difficult for me and never wanted to say that you changed ANY setting of the gameplay itself. IÂ´ve followed the development of the Vileflesh Legacy version through its thread, looked at the images you set up and well, I didnÂ´t know what Vileflesh was about but knew that your aim was to do architectural and graphical enhancements Â´cos you wrote it. Hope I have not offended you or Gwin with that comment, it was not my aim. I just wanted to let people know that I find it difficult. That said, IÂ´m through level 11 and IÂ´m really enjoying it . Good work.

January 31st, 2005, 03:51 PM	#15
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	Difficult?!? Nah!!! Not easy: yes! I have the use to play without auto-aim, but with a crosshair. And I'm absolutely not offended. __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

February 1st, 2005, 01:14 AM	#16
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	The crosshair makes absolutely the difference I think. I started to play VileFlesh without it and well, in large areas chaingunners made prey of me Â´cos I wasnÂ´t able to hit them. IÂ´m getting into playing without crosshair now, in level 12 but if I ever find myself in serious trouble again I will turn my crosshair on. Of course, this only reflects how a bad Doom player I am.

February 1st, 2005, 01:40 AM	#17
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	I don't think so! Playing without a crosshair must be a pain! Personnaly, I have always found that chainguners were too much efficient... __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

February 1st, 2005, 01:57 AM	#18
Danimetal Commander Keen Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 4,344	ThatÂ´s what I meant from the start buddy . Stupid chaingunners... I hate them!!!. Gonna play a little more now .

February 4th, 2005, 02:53 AM	#19
Jive Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Manaus (Amazonie) Posts: 477	Monkey and danimetal are the only ones to make a comment... Legacy is dead? This thread was viewed 667 times, so... A possible conclusion is that my work didn't please you!!! __________________ ______________________________ I get mails from non-english speaking people all the time and sometimes you need to be a little PATIENT to find out exactly what they're talking about. They are trying their best, so work with them. They're trying to do you a FAVOR, and yes it does in fact PAY TO BE NICE. (Rellik - June 10, 2002)

February 4th, 2005, 10:54 AM	#20
shinobi Commander Keen Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chile, Southamerica Posts: 56	Well, i liked it; I've never been a fan of colored lightning but in some places it looks cool. Slow on my computer i have now (Compaq Presario 7453, CPU is an AMD k6-2) but looks good anyway. I have to run it on 320x200 I'm just on level 5, i still have to look to those fragglescripted levels... But looks good by now.

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