Ogg soundpack for DOOM.

dalton_man321 · September 2nd, 2004, 11:11 AM

Hi, I finally got my music pack on the server. I just had to lower the sample rate a little! You can download it here: http://dl.downloadhosting.com/downlo...om%20Music.zip
Enjoy!

Tell me what you think!
Note: I didn't have time to check the volume levels, so that means that it might get loud, then soft, then loud again. But if someone is willing to master it, feel free to do it! Just don't say that you actully made the songs. Just say you remastered it.

That is all.

Platypus · September 2nd, 2004, 01:09 PM

Downloading, now let's see if it's as good as Sycrafts music packs

Platypus · September 2nd, 2004, 01:23 PM

Hmmmm... Not bad, it sounds very much the same as the original, but I prefer Sycrafts sets.

But for the people who don't like Sycrafts stuff, who more like it the classic way but have bad midi support, then this is really good.

dalton_man321 · September 2nd, 2004, 03:11 PM

Thanks for being honest.

I'm thinking about doing electronic remixes of the doom music. I'm going to try it right now!

Sycraft · September 2nd, 2004, 10:02 PM

If you want someone to master it, you should provide them uncompressed copies. Music suffers a great deal from being compressed, convoluted, and recompressed. OGG is psychoacoustic compression meaning it makes assumptions based on human hearing. If there is later processing, these assumptions can be invalid and more severe falws can be revealed. Also double compression is always degrading to sound quality.

Sycraft · September 2nd, 2004, 10:05 PM

Also a question: Why did you elect to use a 24000Hz sample rate? That is low enough that is has quite an audible impact, even for people with degraded hearing. A 32kHz sample rate can be sufficient, though 44.1 is really what you should go for. OGG can be given a 44.1 sample rate and still targeted at < 128k nominal and sound quite good. 44.1kHz OGG even sounds acceptable at < 64kHz. Better to give OGG all the information and let it decide what frequences are and are not relivant.

dalton_man321 · September 3rd, 2004, 02:16 PM

The reason why I didn't do the music at 44.1 sample rate is because it exeded the limit of my download server, which was 50mb. Also, I can't send anyone who wanted to master it the uncompressed wav files because they go over 40mb. Sorry.

GuntherDW · September 3rd, 2004, 02:52 PM

i have some spare space on my webspace if u need some

Sycraft · September 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM

No you don't seem to understand, the sample rate doesn't control the size. You tell OGG what nominal bitrate to encode at, and it'll do it. If the result comes out too bit, lower the bitrate not the sample rate. OGG makes the decisions as to what data to include and what not at any given bitrate.

dalton_man321 · September 3rd, 2004, 03:33 PM

Oh, OK. I'll try it when I get home and the internet working. Thank you.

dalton_man321 · September 3rd, 2004, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuntherDW

i have some spare space on my webspace if u need some

Thank you, but how will I send it to you?

The Undertaker · September 4th, 2004, 06:47 AM

You could put in some form of lossless compression or good ol' zip/rar.

Wicked Anime Kid · September 5th, 2004, 12:56 AM

This sounds very good, but the E1M2 is a little fast and unclear

tuinÂ™ · September 6th, 2004, 02:38 PM

Anyone ever heard the music pack that comes with Doom remake? It's very good.

doomrulez · October 2nd, 2004, 03:26 AM

Ogg Power !

September 2nd, 2004, 11:11 AM	#1
dalton_man321 Commander Keen Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Linn, Oregon Posts: 9	Ogg soundpack for DOOM. Hi, I finally got my music pack on the server. I just had to lower the sample rate a little! You can download it here: http://dl.downloadhosting.com/downlo...om%20Music.zip Enjoy! Tell me what you think! Note: I didn't have time to check the volume levels, so that means that it might get loud, then soft, then loud again. But if someone is willing to master it, feel free to do it! Just don't say that you actully made the songs. Just say you remastered it. That is all. Last edited by dalton_man321; September 2nd, 2004 at 11:20 AM.

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September 2nd, 2004, 01:09 PM	#2
Platypus Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9	Downloading, now let's see if it's as good as Sycrafts music packs

September 2nd, 2004, 01:23 PM	#3
Platypus Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9	Hmmmm... Not bad, it sounds very much the same as the original, but I prefer Sycrafts sets. But for the people who don't like Sycrafts stuff, who more like it the classic way but have bad midi support, then this is really good.

September 2nd, 2004, 03:11 PM	#4
dalton_man321 Commander Keen Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Linn, Oregon Posts: 9	Thanks for being honest. I'm thinking about doing electronic remixes of the doom music. I'm going to try it right now!

September 2nd, 2004, 10:02 PM	#5
Sycraft Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 79	If you want someone to master it, you should provide them uncompressed copies. Music suffers a great deal from being compressed, convoluted, and recompressed. OGG is psychoacoustic compression meaning it makes assumptions based on human hearing. If there is later processing, these assumptions can be invalid and more severe falws can be revealed. Also double compression is always degrading to sound quality.

September 2nd, 2004, 10:05 PM	#6
Sycraft Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 79	Also a question: Why did you elect to use a 24000Hz sample rate? That is low enough that is has quite an audible impact, even for people with degraded hearing. A 32kHz sample rate can be sufficient, though 44.1 is really what you should go for. OGG can be given a 44.1 sample rate and still targeted at < 128k nominal and sound quite good. 44.1kHz OGG even sounds acceptable at < 64kHz. Better to give OGG all the information and let it decide what frequences are and are not relivant.

September 3rd, 2004, 02:16 PM	#7
dalton_man321 Commander Keen Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Linn, Oregon Posts: 9	The reason why I didn't do the music at 44.1 sample rate is because it exeded the limit of my download server, which was 50mb. Also, I can't send anyone who wanted to master it the uncompressed wav files because they go over 40mb. Sorry.

September 3rd, 2004, 02:52 PM	#8
GuntherDW Commander Keen Join Date: May 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 176	i have some spare space on my webspace if u need some

September 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM	#9
Sycraft Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 79	No you don't seem to understand, the sample rate doesn't control the size. You tell OGG what nominal bitrate to encode at, and it'll do it. If the result comes out too bit, lower the bitrate not the sample rate. OGG makes the decisions as to what data to include and what not at any given bitrate.

September 3rd, 2004, 03:33 PM	#10
dalton_man321 Commander Keen Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Linn, Oregon Posts: 9	Oh, OK. I'll try it when I get home and the internet working. Thank you.

September 4th, 2004, 06:47 AM	#12
The Undertaker Commander Keen Join Date: May 2001 Location: To your left Posts: 1,999	You could put in some form of lossless compression or good ol' zip/rar.

September 5th, 2004, 12:56 AM	#13
Wicked Anime Kid Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Lowlands Posts: 3,135	This sounds very good, but the E1M2 is a little fast and unclear

September 6th, 2004, 02:38 PM	#14
tuinÂ™ Commander Keen Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14	Anyone ever heard the music pack that comes with Doom remake? It's very good.

October 2nd, 2004, 03:26 AM	#15
doomrulez Commander Keen Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Oropos,Greece Posts: 62	Ogg Power !

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