REoL TOUGH, ZDooM, and Slopes

REoL · January 24th, 2001, 02:31 AM

First, thanks to X-Doom and Nightmare for helping me on getting the slopes to work in ZDooM. I fould out I was almost doing them right in ZETH, but didn't realize the 1'st and 2'nd arguments were suposed to be 1 or 0.

I'm using ZETH as the editor of choice, and am deleting Wadauthor. I played with it and realized, this editor is one of those editors that like the others I've used, does everything backwards, the way I build maps, causing currupt PWAD files.
Anyhoo, I got slopes! Anyway, here's some bad news:
I found no more than 2 slopes can be put together. 3 of more causes weird results, and really phucks up the map, BSP-wise.
Slopes DO help in the formation of peaks and valleys, and some angled windows you've seen in the past, ala Lord of the Cyberdemons.
As for arches, the X-treme Detail(tm) concept still applies. I was hoping slopes could've reduced sector counts, but results were butt-ugly, because ZDooM cannot handle more than 2 slopes together when making arches. You can have a 5-sector arch, but those are ugly as sin.

No I got to remember how to make doors and lifts the HeXeN way.

I'll plug away at that. I'm close to getting them to work.

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King REoL

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January 24th, 2001, 09:28 AM

Thanks King REoL !

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I'll teach you some move during the Deathmatch.

So are you the choosen one who beat me in a Deatchmatch? I Thinks not, i never lost a DM since the begginning!

January 24th, 2001, 09:04 PM

Hey REoL, luck with the slopes of DooM!

When will we get to see the first screenshots?

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REoL · January 25th, 2001, 02:30 AM

You're welcome, X-DooM, and being I changed a future BooM map over to ZDooM that's relatively new, there won't be shots for awhile.

Now to figure out how to make swimable water.

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King REoL

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January 25th, 2001, 11:22 AM

WOW REoL!

You sound like you're doing funky stuff with Zdoom.

I can't wait to see/play it.

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With love and care, (laced with raw passion),

Don Incognito

REoL · January 25th, 2001, 05:16 PM

I don't think there is something of that nature, as I looked into it. Why does ZDooM have swim controls, if they don't even WORK?

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King REoL

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January 27th, 2001, 01:20 PM

It's probably a feature that didn't get finished or something.

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The only Good ArchVile is a DEAD Archvile.

REoL · January 28th, 2001, 09:26 AM

Then again, 1.23 is in BETA, come to think of it.

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King REoL

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January 24th, 2001, 02:31 AM	#1
REoL Commander Keen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Someplace that exists Posts: 3,613	REoL TOUGH, ZDooM, and Slopes First, thanks to X-Doom and Nightmare for helping me on getting the slopes to work in ZDooM. I fould out I was almost doing them right in ZETH, but didn't realize the 1'st and 2'nd arguments were suposed to be 1 or 0. I'm using ZETH as the editor of choice, and am deleting Wadauthor. I played with it and realized, this editor is one of those editors that like the others I've used, does everything backwards, the way I build maps, causing currupt PWAD files. Anyhoo, I got slopes! Anyway, here's some bad news: I found no more than 2 slopes can be put together. 3 of more causes weird results, and really phucks up the map, BSP-wise. Slopes DO help in the formation of peaks and valleys, and some angled windows you've seen in the past, ala Lord of the Cyberdemons. As for arches, the X-treme Detail(tm) concept still applies. I was hoping slopes could've reduced sector counts, but results were butt-ugly, because ZDooM cannot handle more than 2 slopes together when making arches. You can have a 5-sector arch, but those are ugly as sin. No I got to remember how to make doors and lifts the HeXeN way. I'll plug away at that. I'm close to getting them to work. ------------------ King REoL REoL TOUGH: Has it been 7 YEARS already?! Jesus Christ.... http://members.aol.com/georgef551/REoL_TOUGH.html

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January 24th, 2001, 09:28 AM	#2
X-DOOM Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks King REoL ! ------------------ I'll teach you some move during the Deathmatch. So are you the choosen one who beat me in a Deatchmatch? I Thinks not, i never lost a DM since the begginning!

January 24th, 2001, 09:04 PM	#3
Doom_Dude Guest Posts: n/a	Hey REoL, luck with the slopes of DooM! When will we get to see the first screenshots? ------------------ Check Out The Vilecore Megawad! The only Good ArchVile is a DEAD Archvile.

January 25th, 2001, 02:30 AM	#4
REoL Commander Keen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Someplace that exists Posts: 3,613	You're welcome, X-DooM, and being I changed a future BooM map over to ZDooM that's relatively new, there won't be shots for awhile. Now to figure out how to make swimable water. ------------------ King REoL REoL TOUGH: Has it been 7 YEARS already?! Jesus Christ.... http://members.aol.com/georgef551/REoL_TOUGH.html

January 25th, 2001, 11:22 AM	#5
Don Incognito Guest Posts: n/a	WOW REoL! You sound like you're doing funky stuff with Zdoom. I can't wait to see/play it. ------------------ With love and care, (laced with raw passion), Don Incognito

January 25th, 2001, 05:16 PM	#6
REoL Commander Keen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Someplace that exists Posts: 3,613	I don't think there is something of that nature, as I looked into it. Why does ZDooM have swim controls, if they don't even WORK? ------------------ King REoL REoL TOUGH: Has it been 7 YEARS already?! Jesus Christ.... http://members.aol.com/georgef551/REoL_TOUGH.html

January 27th, 2001, 01:20 PM	#7
Doom_Dude Guest Posts: n/a	It's probably a feature that didn't get finished or something. ------------------ Check Out The Vilecore Megawad! The only Good ArchVile is a DEAD Archvile.

January 28th, 2001, 09:26 AM	#8
REoL Commander Keen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Someplace that exists Posts: 3,613	Then again, 1.23 is in BETA, come to think of it. ------------------ King REoL REoL TOUGH: Has it been 7 YEARS already?! Jesus Christ.... http://members.aol.com/georgef551/REoL_TOUGH.html

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