Adolf Obama: LOTS of People see it now! (NOT for Weak Stomachs!)

[REoL]

People thought I was nuts, referring to our prez as "Adolf Obama". There's a lot of people who see it, and here's some shining examples:

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk397/ddrake_2008/obama-hitler-deliv-speech.jpg http://sporkinthedrawer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/21/daybyday_obamanazis.jpg http://www.moos.ws/Portals/0/obama/ObamaHitler.jpg http://blogs.citypages.com/gop/Obama%20nazi.bmp http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AQYpi_udHgo/SJtBa0XhQ4I/AAAAAAAABsg/5fn1Fj2BkO4/s400/ObamaHitler2.jpg http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/DonaldDouglas/Americaneocon/Obama_Poster_Hitler_Yesweca.gif http://assets.236.com/images/photo2/4420/original/original.jpg http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/solidocelot/N_Obama_HITLER.jpg http://www.nomansblog.com/wp-content/themes/3ColumnK2/images/obamayouth.jpg http://blogs.tampabay.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/17/obama_dictator_sign_fllau10.jpg

That's just ten samples.

I know, for those who love Obama, it's tough to swallow, but if you do look at Hitler's and Obama's policies, they are frighteningly similar.
Hate to tell you that. Now it makes me wish Hillary won the Democratic race. She was just a snob, and a typical liar, and that's all.

[ace]

Oh yeah, because obviously as long as more than one person believes in something, it must be true!

At any rate, let's take a look at this logic, shall we? As I understand it, you are basically stating:

Hitler used convincing, promising and hopeful angles to win over the public when he truly had remarkably evil intentions. Obama also uses convincing, promising and hopeful angles to win over the public; therefore, he must have intentions just as evil in mind all the same.

This is fallacious for more than one reason, but most importantly, this is just a false analogy, plain and simple. It's apples to oranges: since they're both fruit, they're similar, so if oranges contain a high level of citric acid, apples must, too! Such an argument has no ground to stand on.

And for the record, I do not "love" Obama, nor am I a "liberal loonie." I am not aligned to any party but I have little reason to distrust Obama yet. I just call 'em as I see 'em.

[Aliotroph?]

Obama seems to be quite the opposite of Hitler. He doesn't stand on a podium screaming like a child, he doesn't put ethnic groups in ghettos (or kill them), he isn't building a secret army, he doesn't plaster himself all over everything that other presidents wouldn't, etc, etc.

REoL Smrt! (TM)

[REoL]

Obama seems to be quite the opposite of Hitler. He doesn't stand on a podium screaming like a child, he doesn't put ethnic groups in ghettos (or kill them), he isn't building a secret army, he doesn't plaster himself all over everything that other presidents wouldn't, etc, etc.

REoL Smrt! (TM)

He hates White People. (Job Stimulus).
He also was involved in a church which hated whites, and he proudly took part.

Hitler hated people, too.

[ghost]

Don't you dare lump Karl Marx into one of those 'presidents'. As far as my mother told me (she studied philosophy and such), many people have misunderstood his concept of communism, his idea is very much different to those of Stalins or Hitlers.

And, here's one interesting thing to think about, did Hilter ever have children of his own? No, but Obama does.
Honestly, I do not like this stereotyping or judging. Isn't the point of electing presidents is to see what will happen under his/her reign instead of making predictments and say the predictions are accurate then not vote for the better one and go for a crappier president say McCain or Bush and let America crumble more than an apple crumble pie? Sorry if it really sounds offensive or insulting, it wasn't intended.

[Mystic]

Im finding it harder to take these REol obama threads seriously. It just serves to confirm my suspicion that the reason a lot of americans hate Obama isnt his politics (they seem much the same as all the rest to me) its the colour of his skin that really scares the hell out of a the nastier white middle class americans. I doubt if even those normally racist redneck types would attack Obama the way REol does. They would just be honest and use the colour thing.

[FATAL]

LOOK WHAT I HAVE FOUND:

http://fannarh.blog.is/users/c5/fannarh/img/nazi_bill_gates.jpg



Bill Gates is a nazi too!

[SoulPriestess]

And for the record, I do not "love" Obama, nor am I a "liberal loonie." I am not aligned to any party but I have little reason to distrust Obama yet. I just call 'em as I see 'em.
I am the same way. However, I've always known that Obama has always had the potential to do bad, he's part of an ethnic group that's been oppressed by our ancestors for many MANY generations.

Does that mean he's going to be evil? Time will tell. I REALLY doubt it, but the potential is definitely there. And plus, presidents do NOT have the same amount of power as Hitler did.

I disagree with some of his policies right now, but that's about it. If Obama is the doom of the country, then so be it. I hope it doesn't come down to that, though.

[Mystic]

as for hating white people, he is very proud to be descended from a king of scotland (white guy funny enough) and isnt one of his parents/grandparents white??? Im not sure on that because colour isnt really an issue with me.

Here is a little common sense thinking that will go right over the heads of those right wing bampots who are terrified of a black guy with power.

If Obama hated white folk, if there were any evidence of that at all, the democrats would never have let him get anywhere near being their candidate.

Its all just scaremongering by extreme right wing types who cant wait for the race war they all think is just around the corner.

[Aliotroph?]

Indeed. Obama's mother was white! She was from Kansas. Probably had a dog called Toto. :D

REoL has this funny trick now of putting the words of all Democrats into Obama's mouth. That's a silly thing to do. And that church of his really wasn't different from a lot of black ones. The guy even had a valid point I think. I should dig up that sermon of his. Besides, the most disappointing thing I can think of about Obama is that he goes to church at all.

[Mystic]

Now that is a good point, a real one.

[REoL]

LOOK WHAT I HAVE FOUND:

http://fannarh.blog.is/users/c5/fannarh/img/nazi_bill_gates.jpg



Bill Gates is a nazi too!
Yeah, I can see that one.

[Aliotroph?]

Now that is a good point, a real one.

Which part? *zuh*

[Mystic]

/scrolls up to check

ahh yes, the going to church thing. You have to make allowances for that, in american politics you have to pay lip service to the church or risk the wrath of the bible belt voters.

[+Acyclitor+]

why is it the anti-obama people have such terrible photoshop skills?

[Aliotroph?]

It's not his fault! McCain has trouble using computers because of his injuries in Vietnam. ;)

[REoL]

His arms can only go so high.

[Potnop]

Ugh I hope nothing happens... Since Hillary will be in office with him she'll keep him in check won't she? Heh...

[FATAL]

Ugh I hope nothing happens
What do you fear that might happen?

[Aliotroph?]

Personally, I'd like lots of things to happen: expansion of personal freedoms, regulation of large groups (companies, NGOs, churches, etc), government transparency, fancy diplomacy some places, warmongering other places, health insurance for everybody, massive investment in all things science, etc. Most of them won't, but it'd be cool if they did. If nothing at all happened I'd be extremely worried!

[Potnop]

What do you fear that might happen?

The whole Adolf Obama crap...

Then again this might just be stupid conspiracy theory crap. IDK...

[FATAL]

The whole Adolf Obama crap...

Then again this might just be stupid conspiracy theory crap. IDK...
Or it might be idiots like Reol being butthurt because they have to live a step further from their neo-liberalist dystopia.

[ghost]

The whole Adolf Obama crap...

Well, just be thankful that he's not a black president with the name "Camacho" who randomly fires rifles constantly...

[Mystic]

I want them to find everybody called Andrew and give all of them a million dollars to help the world economy

[REoL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVvfiLmV43o
Not the best, but it's my point in a nutshell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_DGzyKMd9g
The author says it best: "....Not saying Obama will run the same course, but it is something to think about."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNtkzlTsOhg
Yep. I've seen this on the local LIBERAL outlets, too. (The quotes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sCyn_JViH4
Food for thought. The very end is of poor taste, though. (You'll KNOW it when you see it.)

[FATAL]

Yo I see some haxing going on

[REoL]

Hwy, it shows you that there are people that dislike Obama more than I do. I don't go to the point of making this stuff.
The people here didn't like me calling him "Adolf Obama", and I am simply proving that I'm far from alone, and that these examples show they take things much farther than I do. The worst thing I might post is the "O" symbol with the swastica behind it, or put said symbols side-by-side and caption it "Same thing.", and leave it at that.

There was one video that was real awful. It looked like Lowtax did it (The "1337" spelling), and I clicked it off when it cried for someone to assasinate him.

People making mountains out of molehills, and those who can't accept "The Obamessiah" being criticized.

[Aliotroph?]

Showing there are a load of retarded idiots around doesn't make it any less stupid for you to go around accusing Obama of being the next Hitler. All you've tried to do is use everybody's dislike of Nazis to try and make them dislike Obama because you don't like a million people stirring up hysterical popularity for a guy whose policies you hate.

You fail. Nonsensical idiots like Hugo Chavez go around comparing American presidents to fascist dictators. The rest of us are happy to criticize Obama when he fucks up (which he has done a couple times already). His team hasn't managed to do anything worthy of the scorn Rove and Cheney get around the world, but they just might manage it.

[Giftmacher]

I think everyone's just paranoid because he's the first black president.

[Aliotroph?]

Only in America would anybody care. We had a woman PM years ago and it was a big "meh."

[Mystic]

we had a woman PM and she was possibly the most malevolent, vile, hateful, spiteful, lying PM we have ever had.

[ghost]

Ha, Thatcher, but without her, The Young Ones wouldn't have been made...

[Giftmacher]

Hitler? In MY White House?

It's more likely than you think! (http://www.morphthing.com/celebrity/5018789)

[Raptor Jesus]

IT'S TRUE!

http://www.morphthing.com/showimage/2/0/0/5018789/Barack-Obama-and-Adolf-Hitler.jpeg

Image curtasy of www.morphthing.com. :)

[nightmare93]

Obama = Hitler.

I laugh every time I hear this claim.

[REoL]

Of course, how CONVIENIENTLY how everyone forgets that I CLEARLY said, that if he keeps his ego grounded, and doesn't get any screws loose (hitting head on chopper doesn't help this), HE MAY ACTUALLY BE A GOOD PRESIDENT. Hitler was a good leader, until his screws came loose 4 years after being elected. Doesn't mean Obama will follow the same path, although the no-whites thingy doesn't help (the stimulus job plan). Someone said Obama would never do that, because he was part white. Hitler was Jewish, and we know what happened there, don't we? (I am sure Obama wouldn't pull a stunt, to the fullest extent, like that.)

[Giftmacher]

Hitler was a good leader, until his screws came loose 4 years after being elected.
Um, no. He was never a good leader. He did a great job of whipping germany into shape for a surprise war (or at least the people who worked for him did), but he was never stable. The only difference between wartime Hitler and pre-wartime Hitler was that somewhere during the midpoint of WW2 Hitler became a drug addict and got even crazier. But even before he was the fuhrer he was a crazy asshole.

In fact, he was really nothing more than a guy with a loud voice and a lot of charisma. He could practically hypnotize people with his speeches, but when it came to actually managing the economy and making war-related decisions, he was completely clueless.

[Mystic]

I doubt very much that he was a jew, I dunno where reol gets these 'facts' probably from his own arse.

[Giftmacher]

I think I remember hearing about that somewhere, but I don't remember. I do know he was a failed Austrian painter.

[Aliotroph?]

I've never seen anything official about HItler being remotely Jewish. Wikipedia says it was a rumour his opponents tried to use against him.

[Giftmacher]

I think it's funny that even though he's widely considered the worst person ever, he was a vegetarian and (rumor has it) gave golden watches to his friends that quit smoking. :p

[Mystic]

I think I remember hearing about that somewhere, but I don't remember. I do know he was a failed Austrian painter.

Yup, thats probably where his hatred of the Jews came from, the Academy in Vienna repeatedly rejected his work and he blamed Jews for that. A petty minded loony.

[REoL]

Then again, anything Wiki = untrustworthy, unless it's a page that cannot be editied by anyone.

[Aliotroph?]

Wikipedia tends to be more accurate than anything in the news, as well as half the outdated books on my shelf, including some of the encyclopedias. The Hitler article is mostly well written and cites a bazillion sources.

[Giftmacher]

I didn't even get that from wikipedia (although Alio is right, it's more accurate than people think), I actually read a 900 page book about Hitler and his closest followers. It says he became a vegetarian after his niece shot herself.

[Raptor Jesus]

Because he was having relations with her :).

Hitler was a fcuking player! Sadly, many of them killed themself if I remember right (I wrote a paper about him).

[Giftmacher]

Yeah, he was being sort of creepy so she killed herself. Apparently he was ok with kids though, Goebbels' kids loved him. They called him "uncle Adolph".

I officially rename this thread the "Hitler, funfacts!" thread. :p

[Mystic]

dont go thinking an article on wikipedia is accurate just because it has sources there. Ive never knowingly lied on wikipedia but have never gave any sources. I do know a few articles that are full of bullshit and have numerous sources/references, most of them being bullshit too.

NEVER use wikipedia as a source for school/university essays

[Giftmacher]

Hey, I used to do it all the time, and for the most part I got good scores.

[Aliotroph?]

That's because you can fabricate stuff on essays and get awesome marks. They don't have time to check it all.

[Giftmacher]

Even so I think wikipedia is a lot more reliable than people make it out to be.

[REoL]

Wikipedia tends to be more accurate than anything in the news, as well as half the outdated books on my shelf, including some of the encyclopedias. The Hitler article is mostly well written and cites a bazillion sources.
I'm not going to argue that people don't write well-written material that is true, but when you see crappy ones, you lose all faith.

Like the Wiki concept, but you have immature kids going in and ruining entries. The top entry for "The Price is Right" (Forgot how I stumbled onto that) is accurate now, but when I saw it that day, it was "a game show for queers and fags." That ruined all faith in Wiki for me.

[Giftmacher]

Yeah but who cares about that show? :p

Point is, all these things get fixed, and really quickly. There's some police force that must be patrolling each and every article, correcting things.

[FATAL]

Someone on the Something Awful forums said it quite well:

"It's more of a loosely organized cabal of obsessive needs who have their finger on the trigger, ready to revert any changes to their pet articles without considering accuracy or actually reading what was changed, plus the ones who have nothing better to do than flag articles and images for deletion regardless of merit. Also, the epic struggle to determine whose dick is the main picture for the Penis article."

[REoL]

Yeah but who cares about that show? :p
It wouldn't be on for 37 years if people didn't. :D

Point is, all these things get fixed, and really quickly. There's some police force that must be patrolling each and every article, correcting things.
I believe that, but one bad experience can ruin anything, like my believing credibility of editable Wiki entries.

[Mystic]

its very easy to find comically absurd made up entries for all sorts of things in wikipedia and most stay silly until someone draws attention to it.

A lot of the articles to do with politicians/wealthy business types are constantly monitored by those peoples publicists and changed accordingly, hardly making them accurate. Thats a fact, a publication in the UK called 'Private Eye' frequently informs of recent changes to true articles in wikipedia made by those powerful people the articles are about. The guys who write for 'Private Eye' almost all come from the same background as those they write about, that is the 'landed gentry' of England, they went to the same schools and colleges as the rich and famous and are in a position to know who really did what.

Those same powerful people/organisations are the ones who can easily have an article 'fixed' so it cant be changed anymore, so hiding the truth forever.

[Aliotroph?]

That's why it's good to know which types articles are likely to be abused like that. Basically snotty, rich people, political parties, and any part of history or politics where people fight a lot. Stuff on the Balkans is bad like that, as is some of the stuff on the Middle East.

The type of vandalism REoL is talking about is irrelevant. Anybody can see it and most of those get reverted within ten minutes. Saying one experience with that can ruin the whole thing for you is the same type of thinking that causes idiots to credit their team winning to God when really the other guys were drinking instead of training.

The bits to watch out for are where subtle inaccuracies appear like incorrect birth dates, misspellings of names, wording that confuses a subject, and weird myths that get inserted. Those are harder to catch, but it doesn't matter. Those same things show up in ALL other media all the time. They show up on the news, in books, from our parents, the government, Doom Dude, etc.

[Mystic]

God made the other team get drunk.

OH Liam, you will love a documentary called 'Religulous' go find a copy. PM me if you cant get it.