Chilling you to the bone

[Big_al]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

[Aliotroph?]

Cheesy. Apparently, political points now need to be made with videos that look and sound like movie trailers. :D

[Big_al]

That's the only way they can get through to the "average" American :D

"Coming to a Whitehouse near you, John McCain, a kid from a 'good' family - what makes him tick...like a bomb?"

[Heidi]

It had exactly the opposite effect on me. I had this feeling that McCain was going to sit and watch the world order screw up, but now I know he will kick ass. McCain 08 :D

[ghost]

Care to elaborate how McCain will kick arse or "ass"??
The last thing Americans need is another typical George Bush (Honestly he's a cock), they need 'change' big time and open their eyes on how the world views them.. better off risking voting for Barack Obama than someone with a war history/background.

We hear news of American politics on TV, radio, newspaper and what not in here Australia. Out of curiosity, do America and other countries even have news on Australian politics? Does anyone even know the name of Australia's newly elected prime minister? lol.

[Doom_Dude]

We hear very little of Australia in the news here in Canada. Most of our news is about Canada (of course) and America. We're more likely to hear news from the UK than places like Australia and New Zealand.

[Heidi]

Care to elaborate how McCain will kick arse or "ass"??

Yes I care, I'm not in the mood for hearing any more liberal bable at the moment, but I'll consider an answer.

The last thing Americans need is another typical George Bush (Honestly he's a cock)

Yeah right Mr.Australia.

they need 'change' big time and open their eyes on how the world views them.. better off risking voting for Barack Obama than someone with a war history/background

Better dead than red, Obama is a communist scumbag and he stands for everything America will never be. Not changes at all makes a lot of more sense than changing for the bad.

[ace]

Cheesy. Apparently, political points now need to be made with videos that look and sound like movie trailers. :D

I take it you haven't seen many US campaign ads. :p

I don't think anyone cracks me up more than the Republicans/conservatives that still stand up for Bush. I can at least somewhat slightly understand why they might support McCain (since he hasn't been in office for the past 8 years making horrible mistake after mistake after mistake), but I know many a level-headed (!) conservative that don't blindly support everything the president does as long as they're a conservative, Christian Republican.

At this point, anyone who still supports bush (roughly 25% of Americans--the morons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1xLYMg8oT8) and Evangelicals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg)) is either incredibly stubborn or incredibly stupid. He has made far too many serious blunders to be taken seriously anymore.

IMO, McCain looks like he's going to be more of the same. And even if by some astronomical chance he's not, he's already stooped down to levels of political mudslinging even worse than Hillary's finger-pointing was, which is absolutely unacceptable to me.

Not that it really matters, anyway. The damage has been done and the Democratic system is completely broken as it is. Extreme partisanship has been the biggest systematic failure in this country and I'm afraid it's not going to change--not that such a change would fix all of the other problems with the system anyway.

Bah, politics...

[Aliotroph?]

I fail to see a proper difference between the two parties anymore. They switched sides in the 20th century somehow and now they both try to switch around on issues they figure will get them some votes. Really, their only real difference in operation is what they like to promise they'll do, and that changes too. They're both for a big government that tells people what to do with the only difference is the Democrats at least pretend some of their programs will be to help the common man rather than put him in jail.

LOL@Heidi! Obama a communist! ROFL We have two communist parties. They'd both call Obama a capitalist pig! Democrats are often about as far left as our conservative party. :D (Don't worry, we all think commies are stupid too.)

[Heidi]

@ace: 25%, 50% or 100%, it all depends on the degree of biasing from the source, just don't take any numbers any serious unless you can corroborate them yourself.

@Alio: I agree the Republican party is not as right wing as it should be, but come on, there's still a remarkable difference. Obama plans to steal even more from taxpayers because "they don't need their money" and I have yet to hear something remotely as red from McCain.

[Nomad]

I'm voting for Nader. He made our cars safe, he can make the country safe.

[Aliotroph?]

lol That's a funny slogan. :D

If McCain doesn't wanna tax people how's he gonna finance wars, wars, and more wars? He's gonna ask men to serve without boots? Doubt it. He'll either tax more or spend more than there is to spend. This is of course assuming he finds himself with a congress that agrees with him. Oh, I suppose McCain could take money from things like research, education, healthcare, etc.

Bush's spending and tax cuts for the rich pretty much ensured you guys will need to pay more taxes. The other way around that would be to have the government set up shop and sell some stuff, but they don't like that idea. Hmm, maybe that's why the DHS decided they can take all our stuff at the border -- they're gonna make money! :D

[ace]

@ace: 25%, 50% or 100%, it all depends on the degree of biasing from the source, just don't take any numbers any serious unless you can corroborate them yourself.

Oh, they're all biased. All statistics are biased. That being said, the general consensus (http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm) from polls, bias or no, ranges from 25%-35%, currently.

Regardless, I have met out of hundreds of people a very small number of Bush supporters, so nyah. Illusory correlation and cum hoc ergo propter hoc be damned. :p

Obama plans to steal even more from taxpayers because "they don't need their money" and I have yet to hear something remotely as red from McCain.

This is what happens when all the information received about a campaigner comes from the ads of their opponents. The key behind campaign ads (and it is by no means restricted to one party, mind you) is using vagueness to portray negativity (assuming insults aren't already involved).

"Obama plans to steal money from taxpayers" means absolutely nothing because it does not say how much money from which tax payers for how long or when or why. All that I've heard is that he wants to tax the rich and the oil industry more and cut back on middle and lower class taxes.

Not that it really matters, because he's a rich politician like the rest of them and likely won't hold out for half of the promises he makes, like the rest of them.

[+Acyclitor+]

if only it had been Nader and Paul running as the candidates (pipe dream), this would be a worthwhile election.

when the choices are a stereotypical tax-lusting liberal and a psychotic war monger with an explosive rage problem, an election is simply an exercise in futility.

[rustyslacker]

Yes I care, I'm not in the mood for hearing any more liberal bable at the moment, but I'll consider an answer.

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Yeah right Mr.Australia.

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Better dead than red, Obama is a communist scumbag and he stands for everything America will never be. Not changes at all makes a lot of more sense than changing for the bad.
I can no longer tell if you are a troll or are just ignorant. And this isn't a flame, I'm just observing.

I'm all for taking a chance on change. There's no guarantee that Obama will be "changing for the bad". The United States is now the laughingstock of the entire world, and electing Obama is the first step to getting some support back. And without getting international support, how are we going to be able to start more wars? *???*

[Aliotroph?]

I'll be impressed if he can change much of anything at all. :p

[ghost]

Yes I care, I'm not in the mood for hearing any more liberal bable at the moment, but I'll consider an answer.

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Yeah right Mr.Australia.

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Better dead than red, Obama is a communist scumbag and he stands for everything America will never be. Not changes at all makes a lot of more sense than changing for the bad.
*You're writing cheques your body can't cash*

What I said about George Bush is what the majority of Australia thinks, and what the world thinks. if you are up for arguing about hating Evanglists and George Bush/McCain Americans, try arguing with my parents! lol.

Again I am going to ask: What does America stand for? How is Obama a communist? How is red better than dead? Besides with common sense, it would take a heck of a job to try transform even America into a "Communism/Socialist" state, it's impossible. USA is a born-capitalist society and world money revolves around America. So why would Obama do that? Because he's black? He might be a dictator? George Bush was a damn dictator. See the damage he's done, go to Iraq with all the imaginary WMDs and see all the dead innocent children bodies and I dare you tell me he's not a outrighteous cock.

[ghost]

EDIT: double post: apologies