Man called pervert for photographing his own kids

[Giftmacher]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035315/Father-branded-pervert--photographing-children-public-park.html

I blame Fox news. And in addition to that I'm pretty sure my opinion of humanity just dropped.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, people suck. The ironic bit is the news story caused some of the pics to end up publicly on the net anyway so any people who want them for the wrong reasons can now have a go! :D Now I'm finding all this quite funny. Again, it's just more people thinking they need to tell others what to do because of their own crappy paranoia.

[Doom_Dude]

It's sad that the guy couldn't take a few snaps of his kids without being harassed by some paranoid, nitwit. There will always be idiots in this world, unfortunately.

[ghost]

Unbelievable, and utterly pathetic.
The world is too much absorbed by the panicking nature of media and news. There was/is one issue in australia that an artist 'photographer' took pictures of a 13yo girl naked, and called it art, others accused it of child pornography. Now this paranoia is going WAYY too far now. Reminds me of a simpsons episode, where they said 'lucky we didn't get bitten and transformed into mindless zombies', and they sit down and watch tv... Dramatic irony.

[deathbecomesme]

Unbelievable, and utterly pathetic.
The world is too much absorbed by the panicking nature of media and news. There was/is one issue in australia that an artist 'photographer' took pictures of a 13yo girl naked, and called it art, others accused it of child pornography.

yeah i remember that it was pretty stupid the media just overtake things over the limit.

[lucius octavion]

Haha if I was him I would've took a picture of that woman without warning and run away with it and put it on the internet!

[Heidi]

This is what happens when you let scumbags like Jack McLellan and Lindsay Ashford roam free. People get paranoid but with a reason.

[REoL]

The PC-Nazi Gestapo run wild again, but this time, loses (albeit with some damage done). Damn libs ruin the world as time goes on....

It was on the Lib's itinirary(sp???):

(1) Call dad taking pix of kids a pervert.
(2) Vote for Barrack Obama
(3) Praise the 9/11 attacks
(4) Send Bin Laden B-day card
(5) Worship Ted Kennedy
(6) Declare "Black Tie Event" as a racist comment
(7) Give "undocumented workers" everything, and deny anything to others (epsecially white and male)
(8) Blame Bush for sun setting earlier in the day, each day
(9) Have Toyota Prius modified to run more green
(10) Take break until 4:20pm, smoke doobie
(11) Stand up for child mollesters. The kids are actually the criminals

[+Acyclitor+]

psychotic. utterly psychotic.

[Aliotroph?]

The PC-Nazi Gestapo run wild again, but this time, loses (albeit with some damage done). Damn libs ruin the world as time goes on....

It was on the Lib's itinirary(sp???):

(1) Call dad taking pix of kids a pervert.
(2) Vote for Barrack Obama
(3) Praise the 9/11 attacks
(4) Send Bin Laden B-day card
(5) Worship Ted Kennedy
(6) Declare "Black Tie Event" as a racist comment
(7) Give "undocumented workers" everything, and deny anything to others (epsecially white and male)
(8) Blame Bush for sun setting earlier in the day, each day
(9) Have Toyota Prius modified to run more green
(10) Take break until 4:20pm, smoke doobie
(11) Stand up for child mollesters. The kids are actually the criminals

Even if those were true, half of them would beat using fairy tales to justify forbidding people getting married. :p The rest are just the kind of crap that scum does. Besides, most accusations of perversion come from conservatives.

[Heidi]

Besides, most accusations of perversion come from conservatives.

Funny that you mention that because most of the people accused of perversion are liberal :D

[rustyslacker]

People on the far left and far right are often equally stupid and ignorant.

[Heidi]

People on the far left and far right are often equally stupid and ignorant.

Exactly the same could be said of apolitical and centrist people.

[rustyslacker]

The more moderate folks are the ones who understand that both sides have some working ideals and some shitty ones. Also, REoL:
The PC-Nazi Gestapo run wild again, but this time, loses (albeit with some damage done). Damn libs ruin the world as time goes on....

It was on the Lib's itinirary(sp???):

(1) Call dad taking pix of kids a pervert.
(2) Vote for Barrack Obama
(3) Praise the 9/11 attacks
(4) Send Bin Laden B-day card
(5) Worship Ted Kennedy
(6) Declare "Black Tie Event" as a racist comment
(7) Give "undocumented workers" everything, and deny anything to others (epsecially white and male)
(8) Blame Bush for sun setting earlier in the day, each day
(9) Have Toyota Prius modified to run more green
(10) Take break until 4:20pm, smoke doobie
(11) Stand up for child mollesters. The kids are actually the criminals
What the FUCK are you talking about? You don't see the problems inherent in conservative bullshit like our current foreign policy and religion in our government? I'm no liberal (they have equally stupid ideas like gun control and affirmative action) but even you should be able to see how badly screwed up some things are thanks to conservatives.

[Heidi]

You don't see the problems inherent in conservative bullshit like our current foreign policy and religion in our government?

People can't see them because there's none. If anything, the only problem would be these foreign and reilgious policies not being pushed as far as they should.

Half the issues in this country could be solved by simply finishing the job instead of backing off everytime bleeding-heart liberals whine.

Why isn't this thread in the Politics forum already? :)

[Aliotroph?]

Governments shouldn't have religious policies.

Hehehe, affirmative action is one of the worst ideas ever invented. It was invented by fake liberals methinks. Us proper liberals (ie. the ones who want to merge man with machine while spending trillions on science and arms research, while coming off decidedly centrist) would never come up with something so illogical and inefficient. That crap is pushed by the same idiots who push for quotas on things like women in science. How the hell is that supposed to work, and when has any scientist supported it???

Gun control is a weird thing. Hard to tell if it ever does any good because all the countries that have it tend to have far less crime than America anyway (well, Britain has lots of murders too but they use knives and they still have fewer murders). Canada has less and our murders often use rifles or guns from the states. Japan has almost no crime at all, but then the odd person flips out and goes on a rampage. They have no guns though; some of their cops have .22s.

Does America have a consistent foreign policy? You guys never seem to be able to decide what country is bad, or even how to treat two countries that are similar (why is Cuba the only embargoed communist country? correction: North Korea too, but they impose most of that themselves still). As a result, you really are screwed with Iraq. If you stay, everybody hates you and you spend trillions on it; if you leave, everybody hates you and the country becomes a chaotic hellhole. Methinks there will be some Americans in Iraq for a long, long time, unless something else big happens there.

Rusty's comment about the far left and far right is very true methinks. :)

[Heidi]

People should be allowed to get as many guns as they please, but ALWAYS after passing a psychological test and ONLY if they have no significant criminal record.

That's the first reason we still have plenty of crime, no control at all, the other one being death sentence not having been extended to rape, robbery and the like, criminals just know they can exploit the loopholes in the penal system and get away with their antisocial behaviors over and over again.

[Aliotroph?]

Death sentences don't stop crimes of passion, which pretty much covers most murders. They probably won't stop other stupid crimes either. It's also a dumb plan to have a death penalty for anything other than obvious crimes where the evidence is plain as day or the guilt is admitted. You guys spend way too much money trying to figure out if you're gonna kill the right guy and then sometimes still get it wrong. Guys like that nut who just stabbed 17 people in Japan could be taken out in the back 40 and shot if you really wanted though. Wouldn't solve anything, not even for the Japanese, but it would stop repeat offenders.

A huge chunk of gun deaths would go away if people didn't keep loaded guns where kids can find them in a hurry. Didn't we learn this lesson with pill bottles already? :p

When you say I should be allowed as many guns as I want, can I apply that to other things too? Things like cannons, AA guns, TOW missiles, SCUDs, landmines, grenades, .50 machine guns, tactical nukes, etc, etc? Those look fun! :D

[ghost]

The death sentence is just a method of saving money isn't it? I say let the prisoners go through mild torturing or other alternatives to screw their lives, as they screwed others. Death is too easy for these criminal scums.

Guns, one of humanity's worst invention, and who would, in such stupidity, fucking allow people use it? It is ridiculous and dumb, America has one of the worst crime rates, and this is definitely the reason why. Sure maybe people pass the psychioshit test, but virtually everyone will panick and fire their weapons due to our human instincts, I say police, security forces are only allowed to have those weapons. On the contrary, people having guns is no control AT ALL.
Hmm free guns, can I have a BFG meal, with fries and some C4 to finish it off?

And for governments, politics should pass a test, to depict how biased they are. The last thing citizens need is to have biased or religion people.
In Sydney, Australia, we are currently having the pope wandering around the place, and the state government has banned people from protesting on catholism/christianity. Well... I don't see any laws imposed on stopping people protesting on muslims or jews, or 'miscellanous'... any biasness in that??
Thats my 2 cents.

[Aliotroph?]

Politicians are supposed to be biased. It's their job. Well, in theory their job is to represent the rest of us, which they do badly because there's a conflict of interest built into the system, but meh. States with constitutions limiting the power of those fools usually do better. Many states have official religions. These countries are led by religious people. If Australia's laws favour Christians then there are probably lots of Christian politicians there. I say let them keep the law allowing you to protest muslims and use that as a precedent in the future to smack the Christians.

Guns didn't cause all the crime in the states. There's something else going on there. We have lots of guns too. Not so many, but lots, and we can easily commit crimes with other things, but we don't so much. There are of course lots of violent crimes in Canada, but America has a higher rate, and I don't get why. Guns just make it nastier.

Your opinion of guns is wrong though. I can't stand the thought of letting a large organization like a government have a monopoly on guns. Like you basically pointed out, politicians and their friends are to be distrusted. Letting them have all the guns is dangerous (note that this is basically the case in Canada and even the U.S. anyway). I have an inherent distrust of organizations (in any form), leading me to want a government that basically lets people do whatever the hell they want as long as those things don't curtail the freedoms or safety of others (last part leads to some restrictions on guns for example). That said, if you have a government that's too small, you have organizations like companies and churches taking power for their own, so you need a government that acts as an enemy of these things. Now I don't know how to build that, since it seems politicians are always friends of companies and churches. Such a state may be quite impossible to build, but I'll happily push for individual freedoms in the mean time.

[ghost]

Well, I suppose it all comes down to the citizens, who they choose to vote for. I can see your point, restricting guns to government organisations, however, I wonder, what would be the consequence of having no weapons at all? Chaos perhaps? Anyways, there should be measures to carve the best government possible to ensure they will be responsible. Australia for instance, no-one is allowed to have weapons like everyone has mobile phones, well though most of the crime caused are by racist bashings and apparently in a new trend, parents not feeding/ killing their kids :(

There is a definite relationship between government and businesses/churches. Businesses are made of huge money, and the (illusion of) human's sole purpose is money. I guess most of the time, governments are not enemies to immoral actions.
Hmm, maybe money is more dangerous than guns... gee I've confused myself now, bloody hell!

And for the crime rates in America and Canada, I would have to say, generally Americans envy power and money compared to Canada. Maybe it's how the country is run that causes crimes. Sorry if I didn't make any sense at all! :p

[rustyslacker]

Guns just make it nastier.
The states and cities with the strictest gun control in this country are the ones where you're most likely to get mugged, raped, murdered, or any combination thereof. As you said, the idea of any small group (church, government, corporation, etc.) having a monopoly on firearms is absolutely ridiculous. Power to the people! Accidental gun deaths are [mostly] prevented by education, simple as that.
People can't see them because there's none. If anything, the only problem would be these foreign and reilgious policies not being pushed as far as they should.
I'm calling bullshit. There's not a problem with most of the world's other countries hating our guts, stereotyping us as ignorant warmongers (which we are--because of conservatives like you)? There's not a problem with the Christian majority bullying the secular side, or blocking scientific research and education because of what some tripped-out "prophet" wrote in a book centuries ago?

Ridiculous. This crap needs to end, or our country will experience an epic downfall.

[Aliotroph?]

The funny thing is I support things like being able to carry concealed weapons. Guns are fun and and I like the idea of stupid people getting shot and bleeding everywhere. Now somebody teach the damned Americans they're gonna get their guns taken away if they don't lock the damn things away from the kids!

I have yet to figure out quite why Europeans hate Bush with such a burning passion. I've heard some say they will refuse to go to America because of him and his buddies. I don't get that. Yeah, he's an idiot, and yeah America has a retarded culture of letting faith influence everything, but sheesh! My big problem with America is the government's lack of concern or letting individuals do things (and also not doing much for individuals except to punish them). Doesn't make me wanna cut the place out of the map though. Still beats most countries.

[rustyslacker]

Guns are fun and and I like the idea of stupid people getting shot and bleeding everywhere.
This and the NASCAR quote ("Humans are just collateral") are two reasons I love you.

Also:
It was on the Lib's itinirary(sp???):
Itinerary.

[Aliotroph?]

Of course, the downside to this is people get mad and shoot guns without thinking, killing people who aren't stupid. I am indeed a conflicted person. I suppose I should get a gun license. :)

[+Acyclitor+]

People can't see them because there's none. If anything, the only problem would be these foreign and reilgious policies not being pushed as far as they should.I would almost think your a troll. your statements are so outlandishly moronic and perfectly in line with the stereotypical neo-con psychopath image that its down right comical. honestly, that statement is so beyond logic that you must be speaking ironically.

[REoL]

Even if those were true, half of them would beat using fairy tales to justify forbidding people getting married. :p The rest are just the kind of crap that scum does. Besides, most accusations of perversion come from conservatives.
Can't say the Bible Thumpers are great, either, but for the current time, the Dems are the Evil Empire. The Elephants had their evil moments, too.

Sell arms to terrorists? Way to go, Reagan.
No poor people in the States? Reagan does it again!
15% of people lose their jobs, but there's no economic trouble, right Bush Sr.?
Cigarettes aren't hazardous to your health, Mr. Dole?
Nothing says Pro-Life like hunting down and killing doctors, right Bible Thumper?
Nothing says "No Child Left Behind" like cutting tons of funding to schools, right "Dubya'"?
No Gay Marriage. No abortion. Heard of "Separation between Church and State?"

As you can see, the Nazis (Dems), and the Assasins (Republicans) are both awful.

3'rd party. Needs a good canidate to shake things up.

[Aliotroph?]

I always thought there were lots of ok third-party candidates. The funny thing about America is people who could vote for them just stay home, and the ones who do always get yelled at by mainstream guys. America is weird. Damn, I wanna vote for something now. Quick! Somebody think of a way to topple the Canadian government again! :D

[+Acyclitor+]

I'm not a fan of the two-party system.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/acyclitor/twoparty.jpg
what the founding fathers predicted has happened exactly: having only two mainstream political parties has resulted in tribalism and bickering.

[Aliotroph?]

Stupid logo considering the two sides tend to be close enough together that sometimes they seem to switch sides just for fun. :p

[Props]

We'll never solve anything posting in forums...
Though, the topic of this post strikes a cord...it seems now a days everyone is suspicious of something....It's quite sad, if you ask me...

I wish people would start worrying about themselves and not on how everyone else isn't doing what they would do...being over-excessively PC.

I'm not surprised how the public reacts to the media...remember what kind of started this whole...bring it to the worlds attention, and everyone pretend like they know or were there mentality...princess diana.

The world is simple...but not black and white...certain rules apply to certain people...and vice versa. Pollution laws...may apply to some, illegal dumping that clearly hurts the surrounding enviornment, where...throwing the core of an apple onto the ground (litering), is frowned upon. Guns may be used to hunt and gather...where they are also used to get your point across. My point is to look at all experiences (yours and not yours) from all directions...and don't just look at the obvious...put yourself in their shoes...

[REoL]

I always thought there were lots of ok third-party candidates. The funny thing about America is people who could vote for them just stay home, and the ones who do always get yelled at by mainstream guys. America is weird. Damn, I wanna vote for something now. Quick! Somebody think of a way to topple the Canadian government again! :D

The reason people won't vote 3'rd party, is because those who vote Nazi and Assasin, pick on the remainders, and tell people they're throwing away their vote. People think that, and vote for the lesser of two evils, instead of who they WANT.

It's bound to happen again, as I said, Dems and REpublicans were 3'rd parties in the early 1800's.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/acyclitor/twoparty.jpg
Actually, as of late, the Cremlin and Swastica actually go on the other animals. That was correct at one time, though.

[g6672D]

I hate to be a Grammar Nazi (irony) but it's Kremlin and Swastika. :D

Unfortunately, as long as the laws become more and more complex, they'll always be used for purposes they weren't intended for. And as we're all so paranoid about things, they're bound to get worse.

We are excellent at creating double-edged swords. But we usually can decide if the good uses outweigh the bads. Vehicles cause deaths, but they are so vital to modern life that banning them would be even worse. Getting more granular, banning them from under a certain age is a good idea. And so on.

[sourceror]

You know guys, we _do_ have a politics directory here... You know, the place where political threads go?

Has someone already brought this up? I stopped reading once the flames started flying.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, it was brought up a while ago. Oddly enough, nobody endowed with magical moderating powers has seen fit to move the thing. While I find this odd, I don't really care.

[Doom_Dude]

It's moved now. This didn't start out as a political thread.......

The reason people won't vote 3'rd party, is because those who vote Nazi and Assasin, pick on the remainders, and tell people they're throwing away their vote. People think that, and vote for the lesser of two evils, instead of who they WANT.One of the things that bugs me, are the people that vote for the same party no matter what.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, that's a silly plan. I either vote for something I want, or if that doesn't exist, I vote for one of the small parties so they get some more cash.

Seems to me this thread was always political. Even the title is somewhat political. :p

[Nemesis]

And in addition to that I'm pretty sure my opinion of humanity just dropped.

Hello and welcome to me about three years ago. :v

Yeah, people blow and the political process blows here in the States, too. When I go to vote, I'm just gonna fill in all of the bubbles so I can say I voted and have a right to bitch about whoever gets in. \:

[Aliotroph?]

That's silly. :p All you big party haters gotta vote for small parties. If you all did that one of them would probably win the election. So all ya gotta do is have all your buddies convince one person to do that. Eventually the momentum would hit the news after a few elections and then the big guys would listen better.

Still wouldn't come even close to fixing society but it might stir up elections a bit. Stirring people up is fun and should be taught in school. :D Now your logic about at least being able to say you voted is right on. Always good to do that.

[Heidi]

If people truly feared punishement, they wouldn't commit crimes.

Some of the responsibles for these crimes are insane people who don't care if they die or not, so there will always be crimes, even if very few, but regular criminals in there right minds wouldn't dare do what they do if they knew for a fact that they would die afterwards as direct consequence of their acts.

[Mystic]

people commit crimes because they think they wont get caught, they assume some black guy will get the blame.

Chris Rock suggested a great way to stop gun crime, make bullets cost 5,000 dollars each. no way is anyone going to waste a bullet shooting someone if its worth all that.