Linkin' Park

[REoL]

Ehh..... I'll let you guys start this one, and I'll add my opinions later.
I don't want to sway the vote this early.

[Giftmacher]

I used to listen to them, and I was waiting and waiting for them to do a third album, but by the time they actually did I'd stopped listening to them. They're alright, though.

[blood imp]

They're alright, although their recent stuff is pretty bad.

[rustyslacker]

They have always been a terrible, terrible band. I want them to be strerilized, but I also want them to keep making music to remind people what music is not supposed to sound like.

Good for you if you like them, though

[Dutch Devil]

I used to like their songs but now I'm more into metal I think its bloody awful.

[REoL]

They have always been a terrible, terrible band. I want them to be strerilized, but I also want them to keep making music to remind people what music is not supposed to sound like.

Good for you if you like them, though


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Although I think you mispoke when you referred to them as a "band". Try "Artificial Manufactured Crap"

That is the shiningn example of what's wrong with today's music scene, and trying to pass that off as "Rock" or worse, "Metal", is just plain wrong.

Ever wonder why they are booed at every time they win an award? That's why.

[Harry]

I liked their first album when I was about 10, but they're actually very good compared with some of the music thats coming out of Manchester. It's dire.

[Giftmacher]

After listening to Korn, I discovered that Disturbed and Linkin park (both of which I used to listen to and don't anymore) both pretty much mooched off of their originality and stole their style, which is why they were both so succesful.

[+Acyclitor+]

actually all three are just hired personalities. in all likely hood all those bands' material is written by cooperate producers who study social trends (and sometimes manufacture them) to make the most profitable music for the target consumer (in this case, retards).

[Giftmacher]

Whether they wrote it or not, the music Korn plays is original and I respect them for that. I can't say the same for Disturbed or Linkin park. That's not to say I disrespect them, I just don't think either did anything that we hadn't heard a million times before. It's pretty much the same scenario as with Doom. Make something original, and there's going to be clones, lots of clones.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

One word: VOMIT!

[REoL]

actually all three are just hired personalities. in all likely hood all those bands' material is written by cooperate producers who study social trends (and sometimes manufacture them) to make the most profitable music for the target consumer (in this case, retards).

Yes. Exactly. They are frauds.

There was a local band here in Leominster which went national, and they did it the old-fashioned way, by being popular, and record execs liking what they heard, and signing them up.
Too bad I can't remember the band name... :)

[Giftmacher]

Doing a Linkin Park song for band class. It's going to be so boring. *bug* It's one of those "three chords and repeat" kind of songs.

[REoL]

Doing a Linkin Park song for band class. It's going to be so boring. *bug* It's one of those "three chords and repeat" kind of songs.

Could be worse, your class could be doing a "Limp Bizkit" "Song".

Name hat Tune:
(Contestant 1) I can name that tune in one note.
(Contestant 2) DUH! ALL their hits are only one note!
:D :D

[Nomad]

Never cared for Linkin Park, but I really don't care about them either way. I don't consider them worth my time to get bent out of shape over.

[REoL]

It's not Linkin' Park by itself, but the fact that manufactured bands are ruining the music industry, and they happen to be considered the worst-of-the-worst, and when artificial turd talk comes up, of course they will be mentioned.

It's also why kid's can't tell the difference between Rock and Rap, because the industry will call anything, anything.

Reminds me of the T-shirt I saw: "Real rock bands don't rap." True.

[Nomad]

Or you could always just listen to what you want to and ignore the stuff you don't like.

[rustyslacker]

I heard HIM today. They ruined "Don't Fear the Reaper". No cowbell?!?!??!! *bug*

[Giftmacher]

They did a horrible Bruce Dickinson impersonation in that SNL skit, even if you weren't referencing that directly.

[+Acyclitor+]

real musicians burn churches

[Nomad]

I burn bridges

[REoL]

Or you could always just listen to what you want to and ignore the stuff you don't like.

In a nutshell, yes. However, you can't ignore the impact this has on real bands (including ones you like) in terms of sales, and ultimately, support.

Nowadays, though, it seems that industry is FINALLY getting it, though. Several bands did convert over from their original cRAP/Rock to Rock over the years (Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit (dead?), Incubus, to name a few), and NOW, Indistry for the most part, is getting the point.

To really summaraize really fast:

THANK GOD FOR THE GUITAR HERO FRANCHISE. :)

However, in terms of bands themselves, yes, your point is very valid. Indistry is next.

[REoL]

real musicians burn churches

I don't think Judas Priest is stilll around. :)

[Nomad]

In a nutshell, yes. However, you can't ignore the impact this has on real bands (including ones you like) in terms of sales, and ultimately, support.

Most of the bands I listen to don't depend on the American market to survive. While some of the European markets are just as bad as ours in terms of what is popular, they're doing just fine.

I don't think Judas Priest is stilll around. :)

Acyclitor's statement has nothing to do with Judas Priest. Go read the book Lords of Chaos for a better picture of what he's talking about.

[+Acyclitor+]

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[rustyslacker]

I don't think Judas Priest is stilll around. :)
Most inane statement I have heard all day.

[REoL]

Most of the bands I listen to don't depend on the American market to survive. While some of the European markets are just as bad as ours in terms of what is popular, they're doing just fine.
That's good. You're not brainwashed. ith that Techno thing, yeah, I can agree Europe has it's own issues (then again, what country doesn't?).



Acyclitor's statement has nothing to do with Judas Priest. Go read the book Lords of Chaos for a better picture of what he's talking about.

Brian Griffin: "Swing and a miss."
That was simply a play on words (being the thread is about music).

[+Acyclitor+]

That's good. You're not brainwashed. ith that Techno thing, yeah, I can agree Europe has it's own issues (then again, what country doesn't?).Aghanistan's music scene, lol

[REoL]

Citars!! :D

CAMEL, CAMEL!
Can't you see I'm horny, horny!
Oh, Camel, Camel!
Let us both get freeeeeeak-yyyy.

(Sung to Tompson Twins "Doctor!")

[Heidi]

So mediocre it's disgraceful. I shouldn't have googled it.

[REoL]

Linkin' is on it's death bed. I heard the death rattle this morning: they crossed over.

(Being played on office stations as well as rock, usually the sign of impending doom).

I bet in Linkin' broke ties with the puppetmaster, stayed together, changed their name (being Linkin' Park is a corporate entity), they might actually do okay.

[Doom_Dude]

I don't listen to Linkin Park and I don't listen to people who moan about music they don't like.

[REoL]

I don't listen to Linkin Park and I don't listen to people who moan about music they don't like.

Generally, I don't care. When Hair bands were big (High School Days). I just thought it sucked, left it at that, and all is done.

We do have to point out the problem of corporate puppet bands, that wrecked the industry, an as mentioned before, Linkin' is the biggest target, so instead of blasting them, we were talking about what's wrong with the industry, and the horribly-wrong way they tried to get Rock back into the limelight (by branding rap with guitars as Rock).

Fortunately, Guitar Hero is righting the ship (oddly enough). That's getting it's own section in some stores. I guess that means it's relally popular. :)

[Nomad]

If you ask me, Nirvana was the band that ruined rock. Hair metal at least had some talent involved. Nirvana showed everyone that all you needed were a couple power chords to make a song, and the industry shot straight down the shitter from there.

[Giftmacher]

And then there were bands like Greenday. *bug*

[MR_ROCKET]

I think Dream Theater should take over the music industry..

[Nomad]

I like Dream Theater, but I doubt they'd have much mainstream appeal. The unfortunate truth about the mainstream is that they want simply, easy to listen to music. Dream Theater's music can be difficult to digest sometimes.

[rustyslacker]

If you ask me, Nirvana was the band that ruined rock. Hair metal at least had some talent involved. Nirvana showed everyone that all you needed were a couple power chords to make a song, and the industry shot straight down the shitter from there.
Nirvana showed that music requires passion more than it requires technical skill or talent. Unfortunately, the message that the music industry heard was that all you need is a couple of power chords to make a song.

Dream Theater taking over the music industry? Hell no. I can only handle so much pretentious technical bullshit. When a band stops in the middle of a ballad ("The Ministry of Lost Souls") to trade hyper-fast solos for four minutes, it's too much.

Fortunately, Guitar Hero is righting the ship (oddly enough).
If "righting the ship" means "inspiring millions of trendy kids to jump on iTunes and download "Through the Fire and Flames" for their brand-new iPods", then yes. Guitar Hero is righting the ship. The song lists seem to be well-put together, but that hardly means that Harmonix is the savior of the music industry. They're just trying to make money and cater to everybody's tastes.

Who really cares about the industry, though? I know what kind of music I enjoy; I really don't care too much about everything else.

[Giftmacher]

Who really cares about the industry, though? I know what kind of music I enjoy; I really don't care too much about everything else.But the problem is all the metal bands today do the same "Korn meets Pantera meets Iron Maiden" thing, less and less bands are being original or even creative at all. Most songs today are too easy to play, you just throw a couple of brutal sounding drop D chords (did I mention that drop D is getting old?) together and there you have it. HateBreed is a prefect example of this. All their main riffs are the sort of things I could have come up with in ten minutes. Their song "destroy everything" is two lines over and over, with the same monotonous guitar/bass part playing through the whole song. That's not music.

Rant aside, the point I'm trying to make is that bands don't last forever, and currently the bad outweighs the good. Good bands eventually retire or break up, while bad ones continue to churn out.

[rustyslacker]

But the problem is all the metal bands today do the same "Korn meets Pantera meets Iron Maiden" thing, less and less bands are being original or even creative at all. Most songs today are too easy to play, you just throw a couple of brutal sounding drop D chords (did I mention that drop D is getting old?) together and there you have it. HateBreed is a prefect example of this. All their main riffs are the sort of things I could have come up with in ten minutes. Their song "destroy everything" is two lines over and over, with the same monotonous guitar/bass part playing through the whole song. That's not music.
Trendy mallcore scenester kids can listen to Hatebreed and whatever commercial crap they want. I don't care. Why do you?

And it is possible to use drop-D creatively. I wrote a fingerpicked Paganini-inspired riff that actually uses the low D in the melody, instead of just to make power chords easy.

[Giftmacher]

I wouldn't normally care, it just seems that there's a lot of stupid bands like that who are currently on the rise. The fact that bands like that are as popular as they are just bugs me. And I don't normally mind drop D, it's just that people are overusing it, and it makes their music even easier to play than it already is (by making regular chords into bar chords, or whatever they're called).

[MR_ROCKET]

Well, I was actually kidding about Dream Theater taking over the music industry :P, but I see what you mean Nomad..though some of their new stuff sort of reminds me of the Justice for all Metallica days which is a little easier to relate with. Dream Theaters music is really good, it's almost hard to say do better.
Part of the problem is, some just don't care and put it on a rating wagon like some 2 bit tone def ranter would, then there's the guys that are like, pfft they're too good and hate them for it lol. But the truth of the matter is, the younger majority feels so restricted from everything they don't know what to think about anything, they seem to rather put things down than agree on anything when they grew up saying no, and Nirvana for nappy time. :D
To me, back when Alice n Chains hit the bar lights, Nirvana was stage hand.

Anyways, Yeah Dream Theater is too strict listening for some, but I'v noticed some of the new stuff is more on_ the level than the later.
slightly off topic lol: I'd really like to see Metallica pull through with a new album like Justice for all, and maybe this time have DT as the sound guys. :P Becuase I think that's what screwed them so bad, "the sound", not just the spring cleanzings they went through.

Dave Mustaine for President !
:D

[Giftmacher]

Dave Mustaine for President !
It's still we the people, rrrrrrrrrright? :p

[REoL]

If you ask me, Nirvana was the band that ruined rock. Hair metal at least had some talent involved. Nirvana showed everyone that all you needed were a couple power chords to make a song, and the industry shot straight down the shitter from there.
I can see your point there. The big thing about Grunge was that it didn't have to sound tight, so if you screwed up some, or the recording is off, who cares?

As I always will admit, the hair bands played clubs, got record contracts, and made it beig themselves (plenty of bands in the past, and present, still get to fame in this manner).
In any genre, if something is big, the labels always polluted then real talent with hacks (remember Nelson? 'Nuff said.), eventually, wrecks it for everyone.

If "righting the ship" means "inspiring millions of trendy kids to jump on iTunes and download "Through the Fire and Flames" for their brand-new iPods", then yes. Guitar Hero is righting the ship. The song lists seem to be well-put together, but that hardly means that Harmonix is the savior of the music industry. They're just trying to make money and cater to everybody's tastes.

Who really cares about the industry, though? I know what kind of music I enjoy; I really don't care too much about everything else.
Whatever works. :) Harmonix, I know isn't saving the industry, but they did strike a nerve with kids, and adults alike. They make the product, people buy it, and Rock is saved by all. :D

Dave Mustaine for President !
:D
You think Al Qadea would mess with us then? :D