Ever get sick of Doom?

[JohnnyRancid]

A buddy of mine asked me a few days ago. "Will you ever quit doom" and I said "I dont knwo, probably not". Since then I had been thinking about it over and over. Ive been wondering if the Doom community will EVER die. Like certainly there will be a point where the community will deteriorate away, when that is, I dont know, I doubt its anytime soon. But I'm just wondering whether or not our offspring (assuming we all get some) will be interested in doom, and love it as much as we do.

I also wonder to myself, If there will be a point where I do get sick of opening another door and killing all the imps and cacodemons inside, or going up an elevator and dodging all those revenant rockets. I haven't tended to notice any symptoms of boredom yet. I know theres doomers way older than I am, even though we've most likely been playing doom for the same amount of time.

Basically my question is, is do you honestly ever see yourself getting sick of doom? I think doom is in my blood and I may never become satisfied until I play every single map01 in every single wad thats scattered all over the net. Whether it be painful or an enjoyable experience, I feel like it's an essential part of my day to kill at least one imp. and fire at least one SSG shot, and find at least one skullkey. And it must almost always be in a different environement. I can get sick of playing doom2.wad in 10 seconds, but knowing that I can play doom in trillions of maps and rooms and sectors I had never experienced myself makes me ache for more. It's like a game that has no ending. But it's so good you cant quit. I personally think doom is an addiction that I will never blow over. But I am pretty damn sure I dont want to cure it either.

What do you think? Are you like me? a die hard doomer that wont quit until you get to the end of every single map in the net?

[Nomad]

I'm not really a hardcore "ZOMG DEWMS" fan, but I do really like, appreciate, and respect the game both for what it is, and the legacy it has left in its wake. I can do without playing it every day, but I will never really get "tired" of it.

[mac53]

I agree with Nomad... I'm fifty four years old and am building web site specifically for the Classic Doom95. It's going to take me a while to get it up and running to its fullest, but I'm putting everything I have into, including my four DVD's full of maps for download. In addition to that I have restarted my forum, now on a private hosting site, trying to keep that aspect alive. I'm now to the point to whether the sprites ever get done or not, I'm not that much concerned about it anymore. If it happens, that'll be great and it doesn't, atleast I tried. We're starting to get into TC's and other stuff dealing with decorate and scripting now. Like I said, I'm in my fifties and I remember when Doom first came out. My wife & I would spend hours playing the platform versions first, then got into the pc. To make a long story short, it's in & out with me. I just want to build something that will survive and continue on entertaining the community. If you would to check it out.
macsdoompage.com and click on the forum link at the bottom.*wave* *cheers*

mac53

[Dutch Devil]

Atm I'm not doing anything doom related and I don't think I will be very active with mapping in the future RL is just getting more inbetween lately its not that I've fallen victim to an new game it has to be an pretty damn good game to keep me away from doom and so far all games I've played have failed to do that so far and most games that I see these days are games that I'm not interested in at all its all about eye candy these days well screw that.

Doom is addictive and mapping for it is fun and easy.

[CrazedImp]

Hmm, I admit there are times when I sort of forget about Doom related stuff for a while, but I always find myself coming back to it. No modern game can keep my attention for very long, and I always find that whenever I format or get a new PC, the Doom ports and Doom Builder are often the first things that I re-install.

I only ever play through mods and maps I download once (unless they are REALLY good), but since there are so many out there it isn't much of a problem. I still like mapping for Doom as well. Its fun, and its easy to learn, and all the features now implemented (such as 3D mode and other conveniences), speed up mapping a fair bit. Its a lot more fun than mapping for modern games, which I find to be tedious rather than enjoyable.

The Doom community won't die off anytime soon, but eventually we're going to get to a point where all the new, younger gamers won't care for games like Doom because they grew up playing games with modernised graphics.

It kind of makes me sad actually, I was trying to convince a friend to play some Doom, and he seemed to enjoy all the gameplay related stuff I was talking about. But after I showed him some in-game screenshots of some mods, it was all "eh... the graphics turn me off it...". This is what I hate, people who think a game needs astounding graphics to be entertaining. Rubbish. Doom is still more entertaining and has more replay value of any game I have ever played in my life. I am quite sure I will never play a game again that will have as much lasting value as Doom has had. I thought FEAR was going to last me a long time, but I've been playing it for around a year now and its starting to bore me. The fact of playing the same 10 maps over and over and over and over and over gets really dull after a while. I'd still be playing its multiplayer on an almost daily basis if they released patches more often with more maps to play on. Half the fun of a multiplayer game is to study the maps and find out where you can get tactical advantages over your opponents. Its not fun when you've played on a single map so much that it just loses all meaning to play it anymore.

But I'll likely be enjoying every good Doom mod that comes out the door for years to come. I don't care if a lot of other people say "OMG! That game is so old now. Play something with better graphics its better".

[Kristian]

Doom is one of the very few games I find myself coming back to, again and again. Sometimes I don't play it at all for several weeks. Some days I can play it for several hours straight. It has the most addictive gameplay of any game I've played, except for the Civilization games (= the software equivalent of crack). So, to answer the question, yes, I sometimes get "sick" of Doom, usually after assembling a demo pack or putting lots of work into a very frustrating speedrun, but after a little break from the game I'm always back for more.

[JohnnyRancid]

Yeah but the whole process of finding out what a switch does, and where those stairs go to, it's so repetitive. I've done it a million billion times,each time had only been slightly different. Occasionally a map will have some sort of mapping effect i had never seen before and I cant help but make a mental note of it. But my older bro said to me the other day "All you do in that game is open a door and shoot all the monsters inside." And he's absolutely right. But I'm trying to understand myself what it is about it that makes it so much more satisfying and less boring than it would in any other game.

Somehow, I manage to get bored of playing Halo on single player because the process is the same almost every time, walk through this hall way, shoot all the monsters; if your hurt, hide, come out and fight them again. But when I think about it, opening a door, shooting all the monsters inside, finding a health kit and ammo, open the next door, repeate process, it's like the same thing really. I've just hardly ever get bored of playing that same process in different maps over and over. And I just wonder if there will ever be a point in my life where I had seen everything there is to expect in doom, and just drop the game and find a different hobby.

I think I may never get bored of all the monsters and weapons and items in doom. I jsut dont think there is the potential for me to give up on this miraculous game.

[lucius octavion]

I agree with all of you. Doom will never die for me, but I don't have to play it a lot. But I have to say that out of all the games in the world, doom means the most to me.

I am also saddened by people like CrazedImp speaks of, I actually have had that problem with some guys a few times. One was like "Oh you're playing doom?" I said, yeah lets play some coop and he goes "Oh man I can't play a game with those kind of graphics. I can play Doom 3 but not the original"....

And then there's the guys who for some mysterious reason think that "wow has better graphics than any game" including something like Crysis. I myself don't care so much about graphics when it comes to good games.

I guess as long as John Romero and his followers are still alive, then Doom isn't ever dead! :D

[blood imp]

I don't think DooM will ever die for me. I may suck at the game itself, not to mention mapping, but the game itself is kick ass! I may not play it as much as I used to, and definately not daily, but I think overall it is my most-played game. And the community is still highly active, making maps daily, and just look at the forums!

However, mostly all of us were born before or during the release of DooM, so as our generation dies off, so may DooM's glory. Undoubtfully, there will be many fans for a long time to come, but for the most part, it would be limited to our generation and perhaps the next. As for my offspring, I don't know. I literally grew up with DooM, so it's almost a part of my life (it has influenced my childhood, no?). My offspring, however, will grow up with newer games, so they may not enjoy DooM nearly as much as I do.

As for those that claim DooM sucks because of age or graphics, they are dipshits beyond measure. The worst would be those that actually enjoy it, but don't want to admit it because of its graphics. Suck my ass!

DooM is undoubtfully one of the best and most addicting games EVER, and I do not see myself becoming bored of it in the future.

[Danimetal]

Moving in and out of Doom is a routine for me... I just pick up something I like or some real life concern that takes my time, then, when done, I get back to Doom and then back to other things as soon as they catch my attention.

Right now I am doing nothing Doom related but I just keep coming back to the forums daily to check interesting posts, discussions and news. Also to practice my english a bit and, of course, to keep in touch with those people here I like :).

[ace]

Been playing it for about 10 years and I haven't gotten bored with it yet, so I don't reckon I will. There are always new wads in progress I'm looking forward to, and when all the ones I've been looking forward to have come out, there's twice as many more that were announced in the meantime so that I have all the more to look forward to. After all, as you said, even when the original maps become old, there's a vast supply of new ones to take their place.

I'm not the kind who plays the game nonstop unless there's one of those new things out, of course, these days, but I find myself coming back to the game again and again, nonetheless. Mapping's a different matter, however; I get bored with mapping very quickly. It's fun once it's done but in the meanwhile I find after a certain point it becomes tedious. 't's not to say I don't enjoy it though, and like playing Doom itself I find myself coming back to mapping for it time and time again, whenever inspiration comes back to me.

I don't think the community is going anywhere anytime soon, either. A majority of the Doom communities are still relatively thriving, and the great thing about Doom is that due to the legacy it has left behind (and partly thanks to the movie, no matter how unfaithful to the games it was--and the controversy on top of that), people hear about the game and know about it even to this day, and as a result new people are coming into the communities all the time to gradually replace the folks that have lost interest or have been kidnapped by life.

In the end, Doom will die out eventually. All things do. But I think Doom will outlast many things that have come before it, and I don't think the community's death will happen any time soon. (And we won't have to worry, of course, because once Doom is dead it will be gradually replaced by Halo. So it all works out... right? :p)

[jake250]

I rarely play it, but its one of those games that is ALWAYS installed, with all my ports, wads and my editor ready just in case. Sometimes I go and play just a bit and have fun, but this game isn't much more to me nowadays.

If I had more friends for Co-op, I don't know. But Doom "is" getting boring to me. Granted though, I'm 17 years old, and as such, I haven't been playing this game for that long. I actually discovered Doom 3 or 4 years ago, I believe.

[lucius octavion]

I actually knew this kid who was bitching against doom so bad. He was saying that doom looked like paper and it was stupid, and he thought Wow even had better graphics than Half Life 2, which in my opinion has very good graphics even today. Because he was a graphic jerk who thrives of wow and can't get some shuteye. He goes, "HEY, I bet the only reason you love Doom so much is because your computer can't handle anything else!" At the time, I had a decent computer. It could play Quake 3.

This dude was so ignorant that he was bragging about "how brand spankin' new his computer was" so that he could play wow and not "crappy games like doom". Kids these days..... :D He was going on and on about how big his comp's hard drive was and shit. Yeah, like that has anything to do with performance of a computer! :D lol He goes "hey how big's your memory?!!" Maybe I know too much about computers but he was calling a hard drive memory, and it doesn't have to do with game performance anyway! So I tell him 80 GB. He responds "pfff that's nothing! Mine has TWO Gigahertz!" And GHZ isn't even a measure of HD space!!!! :D Go figure that one! He thought a Gigahertz was a thousand GB or something stupid like that.

[blood imp]

That's the funniest little boy ever! :D :p

[Nomad]

Yeah, I've met folks like that before. They are complete idiots.

[Giftmacher]

Yeah, I've met folks like that before. They are complete idiots.
Not only that, they're not gamers. Even if they play games, they aren't gamers. I know a kid like that too. Complete jerk.

The kid insisted he was a better gamer than me (because he'd "gotten farther on his games"), and yet I recently had to tell him what an FPS is, even though he'd played them vefore.
*chuck*
It absolutley drives me crazy when people say that Doom is no fun because it's old and that just because the graphics aren't like "LOLZ TOTALIE LIKE HL2!!!!!", that the game isn't worth playing.

One of my favorite things about Doom is that you can't get tired of it easily. Even after you've beaten it, you can pick it right back up and enjoy it. And even after all these years it's still fun, not because of flashy graphics, but because it's a great game. People tend to miss that.

[CrazedImp]

What annoys me more than people who use a PC and don't even know its basic terminology are the graphics whores. All idiots. I cannot understand at all why they choose not to play a perfectly playable and fun game just because its graphics are not on par with modern games of today. Its like saying you won't watch a 20 year old movie because the special effects aren't as good as movies today. Although there are also some idiots like that too. Its just so frustrating when I ask somebody if they want to play some Doom co-op, and they refuse, then 5 minutes later I get asked to play multiplayer in some fancy graphics game. Not to mention most of those get boring after a couple of months.

Doom3 is a good example of what happens when games get "Modernised". Doom3 could have easily lasted as long as the original Doom, but I don't see Doom3 having as much staying power as the original, thought last I checked its modding community is still going strong, we won't see as many user-made mods as the classic Doom's.

Ah well, for the graphics whores out there you can always try convincing them to play Doom with Doomsday.

[Osiris's_Legacy]

Ah, Doom. When will I ever get sick of that? I've been playing that since it came out when I was 4. Even if another game had grabbed my attention, after finishing it I almost always went back to Doom.

Also, about these kids that are "graphics is gameplay" are just idiots who don't know what a true game is. I've managed to get friends at school to play Doom, though not too many. Most of my friends are people who know about gameplay over graphics, but I've met quite an amount of people who will only play the latest games. It's sad, real sad.

[Giftmacher]

I've got a friend who (although he's usually really nice) doesn't think anything below Starcraft quality graphics could possibly be the best RTS ever. His first choice was Supreme commander. I still think it's the original C&C.
He's also the type whose parents work at Microsoft and so he has a "super godly" comp, which he likes to talk about, while belittling mine in the process.

but I've met quite an amount of people who will only play the latest games.
They probably just want to "be cool", and the few of them that don't actually mind it are afraid they'll be picked on for playing games with "sucky graphics". I wouldn't be surprised if that's happened before.
A kid who occasionally comes over here once wanted to know what I was playing. I told him it was Doom 2, and he was like "wow, that has sucky graphics". People like that are just so stupid.

[lucius octavion]

He's also the type whose parents work at Microsoft and so he has a "super godly" comp, which he likes to talk about, while belittling mine in the process.



I bet he probably says it's cause the "hard drive has more gHz". lol :D

[Giftmacher]

It's because he has a lot more money than I do, and he gets "daddy's blessing" in the form of a multihundred-dollar rig.

[JohnnyRancid]

HEY, I bet the only reason you love Doom so much is because your computer can't handle anything else!"

I get the impression that one of my closest childhood friends thinks that's the reason I play doom. Like he doesnt say it directly, but he always tries to reccomend that I get games like BattleField 2, and Counterstrike Source, which I dont mind because both those games got something going for them. However he always reccomends that I cough up an extra $2000 for a new computer, more RAM, more memory, all that junk. It's not totally up to date, (Windows 2000) but my computer isnt really all that bad. But I'd rather be playing doom than any other game on my comp. But I think he thinks I'm playing Doom because that's the best my computer can put up with. But the truth is, I just dont want to play any other game because almost any first person shooter to date isnt that much of a change from Doom. So why would I pay so much for the same game with a different layout? Doom already has trillions of maps with billions of different themes.

[Nomad]

HEY, I bet the only reason you love Doom so much is because your computer can't handle anything else!"

Actually, I admit that one reason I play Doom more often than a lot of other shooters, is because of the lack of ungodly load times. I would love to try HL2 online, but waiting two minutes for a map to load isn't attractive to me.

[Giftmacher]

but waiting two minutes for a map to load isn't attractive to me.
One of the many drawbacks to being a CS:S addict. *weep*

[lucius octavion]

Well, that is a plus for doom because you don't actually need a good comp to play it smoothly. I just do not appreciate some kid belittling me for such a stupid reason. Otherwise, I don't mind what my computer can handle and what it can't.

And CS:S and BF2? Those IMO aren't even good games. I would go with better gameplay, and more scalable options. Even better graphics (level design) which are smoother and more scalable just because of the engine they're on.

Example would have to be True Combat: Elite. It's completely free, runs super smooth, good level design, good gameplay, and very realistic gameplay.

[Giftmacher]

I just do not appreciate some kid belittling me for such a stupid reason.
Yeah, there's a lot of rich kids out there who think they're "da bomb" just because their mommy and daddy could afford to buy a super awesome rig for them. Meanwhile, we don't have all that money, it's not our fault.

[YouGotTheChainsaw]

THE TOUGHEST SPACE TROOPER EVER TO SUCK VACUUM DOES NOT GET BORED

seriously though, I'll never be bored of doom. Its the only game ive found where you can open a door and be confronted with a horde of enemies (and i mean horde) and blow them all away in a simple yet wholly satisfying manner.

When I was a kid our family never had a pc. didnt get one till i was about 16 and even then it was a shit one because we were kinda poor. The first time i saw doom though was on my uncles playstation and the second i saw it i knew that i had to own it. Prior to that my only gaming experience was on the sega megadrive with cool games like streets of rage and jungle strike. So seeing 3d worlds was like super awesome.

so for pretty much 3 years i only played doom's cousins in the playstation, they had less levels than the pc counterparts and were way easier but it was still a good game. Then like a year ago i bought doom collectors edition for pc and havent looked back.

Infinite content, infinite replayability. I play random doom wads that i downloaded almost every night when im not doing anything else. Doom is a great game because it is served "as is". There are no frills or some deeply moving story trying to be told or whatever. The gameplay is simple and solid. The day i get bored of doom is the day i will quit gaming forever.


One thing though.... i do get sick of the doom music and often switch it off because damn those midi tracks are annoying. PSX doom had a good soundtrack though.

[JohnnyRancid]

The day i get bored of doom is the day i will quit gaming forever.

I think it's safe to say that I am the same way.

I'm not the kind who plays the game nonstop unless there's one of those new things out, of course,
I dont think anyone is. Doom is simply far too old to be excited about.

[lucius octavion]

I play other music while playing doom.

[Do0my]

I doubt the Doom community will ever die out completely, maybe for the older versions as some years go by. I don't think the series will go past Doom 5 though, but there will still be people playing the older versions online.

And just to show how many people still play doom, there's a lot of doom ports for other devices, for example doom for the ipod, psp, gp2x, ds etc.

[JohnnyRancid]

Yeah, It's kinda doom's duty to make its way to every single portable substance the world can create. I think anything past Doom 2 will not be very memorable. Doom and Doom2 will live far past Doom 3 and up.

[ReX]

There was a time (ten years ago), when I rabidly downloaded every single PWAD and tried it out. Once I started mapping in 1999 I found I had less time to play every single level that was released. I also spent a great deal of time playing other games, and that left even less time for DooM. Not to mention a full time job and other RL responsibilities. Still, I thought I'd never tire of DooM and other FPSs.

Over the years my enthusiasm for playing DooM maps and even other games has waned. I have 7 or 8 games (including DooM3) that I haven't even unwrapped yet. But my keenness for mapping seemed to be going strong. However, In 2007 I have been involved in 3 personal projects, which have been crawling along at a slug's pace. This tells me that my glorious DooM-mapping run may finally be approaching its end.

So, in summary, it appears that the sun may be setting on this particular DooM enthusiast.

[MR_ROCKET]

But then of course there's always 5 years from now in which Doom hasn't changed, as a matter a fact it will just become that much more of a classic. ;)

[monkeyofevil]

you know i used to be one of those "oh look, i got an xbox and you got a gamecube" kind of guys. basically i was a graphics whore who thought whatever i had was the best. then i came to terms when my first wad i made was played by the people at this forum. its then i realized that I didnt know what a true game was. I thought as long as it had a bfg and a cyberdemon it was good. but after seeing other wads and playing them i got addicted to doom, a game i haden't played in over a year at the time. Even then i got bored with it after a while. once i got xbox live i was an online "gamer" so to say. but then i got bored and looked on youtube for Doom, just to see if anyone posted any videos about it other than Doomsday Engine videos. What got me coming back was the video for UltraDoom. So basically, anyone can be changed by something in a game, whether it be mods, wads, or engines, doom will always be there. I probaly find my roots in the game since ive been playing since the age of 3. I basically grew up with this game. And made me even more addicted. this game will never die, it may fade in a few years, but it will never die. As long as there is new things done with it, or a new game is released to get the old feeling driven into the minds of new kids, then it will live.

[Jugga]

Im only a "kid" but i still love doom, the only things id want wood b more wepons and more sprites but i dont think ill ever get bored of doom

[blood imp]

You can make more weapons and sprites yourself. I believe it's Dehacked or something like that. I'm not too much into editting, so I'm not sure what program it is. But indeed you can alter the game.

[Giftmacher]

I'm just going to have to make sure I have a seperate comp with Windows XP lying around when all my favorite games don't work on new computers. I could never give up Doom.