Doom 3 Fails to Initialise =[

[Neon Knight]

ok, I downloaded the DEMO version of doom3, and I got the nasty and annoying message on the console "Your video/driver combination does not support the features"
Or words to similar effect.

I have a Geforce FX 5200,
Intel Celeron 2.93 ghz
512 mb RAM

I copied the console message:

################################################## #######################
DOOM 1.0.1280 win-x86 Sep 10 2004 16:46:16
2923 MHz Intel CPU with MMX & SSE & SSE2 & SSE3
496 MB System Memory
8 MB Video Memory
Winsock Initialized
Hostname: die-eosxo21wmkp
IP: 192.168.1.4
doom using MMX & SSE & SSE2 & SSE3 for SIMD processing
enabled Flush-To-Zero mode
enabled Denormals-Are-Zero mode
------ Initializing File System ------
Loaded pk4 C:\PROGRA~1\DOOM3D~1\demo\demo00.pk4 with checksum 0x851c03dd
Current search path:
C:\PROGRA~1\DOOM3D~1/demo
C:\PROGRA~1\DOOM3D~1\demo\demo00.pk4 (12234 files)
game DLL: 0x0 in pak: 0x0
file system initialized.
--------------------------------------

Running in restricted demo mode.

----- Initializing Decls -----
------------------------------
------- Initializing renderSystem --------
using ARB renderSystem
renderSystem initialized.
--------------------------------------
5150 strings read from strings/english.lang
Couldn't open journal files
couldn't exec editor.cfg
execing default.cfg
couldn't exec DoomConfig.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
5150 strings read from strings/english.lang
----- Initializing Sound System ------
sound system initialized.
--------------------------------------
----- R_InitOpenGL -----
Initializing OpenGL subsystem
...registered window class
...registered fake window class
...initializing QGL
...calling LoadLibrary( 'opengl32' ): succeeded
...calling CDS: ok
...created window @ 0,0 (640x480)
Initializing OpenGL driver
...getting DC: succeeded
...PIXELFORMAT 10 selected
...creating GL context: succeeded
...making context current: succeeded

------- Input Initialization -------
Initializing DirectInput...
mouse: DirectInput initialized.
keyboard: DirectInput initialized.
------------------------------------
sound: STEREO
X..GL_ARB_multitexture not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_env_combine not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_cube_map not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_env_add not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_compression not found
X..GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic not found
...using GL_1.4_texture_lod_bias
X..GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette not found
X..GL_EXT_texture3D not found
X..GL_EXT_stencil_wrap not found
X..GL_NV_register_combiners not found
X..GL_EXT_stencil_two_side not found
X..GL_ATI_separate_stencil not found
X..GL_ATI_fragment_shader not found
X..GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object not found
X..GL_ARB_vertex_program not found
X..GL_ARB_fragment_program not found
********************
ERROR: The current video card / driver combination does not support the necessary features.
********************
Error during initialization
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL ): success
...deleting GL context: success
...releasing DC: success
...destroying window
...resetting display
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL
################################################## ###################


Any ideas people?
I got the impression that the FX series was supported my Doom3 ='[

I have the latest drivers for my Gfx card.

[Neon Knight]

Is anybody here????

Is this forum dead or something?

[MR_ROCKET]

This looks to be the problem.. 8 MB Video Memory
If you really do have a Geforce FX 5200 then check that it is indeed in your computer case still attached to your motherboard heh.
If so, make sure that the card is seated properly and that you have the correct drivers for it. If this is fact, then you might have some bad memory on your video card.
That or somehow your config is curfunked.

[rustyslacker]

ERROR: The current video card / driver combination does not support the necessary features.
Damn right. 8 MB video memory won't support Doom 3. I believe the minimum requirement is 64 MB.

[Looney]

I wouldn't bother with less than 256 meg ram on a GF 5200. I would also question that you indeed have a GF 5200. It would be my guess that you added this video card to a system that has Onboard video and didn't turn the onboard off in the BIOS or change the jumper setting on your Motherboard. As others have said ... you can't play Doom 3 with only 8 meg video RAM.

[The Undertaker]

Yup, disable the onboard. If there isn't anything in the BIOS look for it under the device manager and disable it there.

[Neon Knight]

It is disabled in windows. I don't know if that means it is also disabled in the Bios, but I've never had this problem with any game before. I run Half Life 2, BattleFeild 2, UT 2003/4 They all work fine. Is there a patch or a parameter I can use to force Doom 3 demo to use my other Video card? I know on some games this problem happens and usually you can simply use
Game.exe -altvid
Or something like that.
Is this the case with Doom3?
If it isn't, It should be
lol

[rustyslacker]

I don't know. Try it and see. ;)

[Neon Knight]

Nope. Hasn't worked. What do you suggest I do? How do I access the BIOS? If it's disabled in windows, does that mean it's disabled in the BIOS aswell??

[FATAL]

No, BIOS doesn't give a shit about what's happening in windows.

Usually you can enter BIOS by pressing del while the computer is starting, it should say something like "press del to enter setup" or such. The some BIOSes are entered to using different keys, though. I can't remember any other usual keys, but F11 rings a bell. Try those during the first seconds the computer starts up.

And please don't mess around in the BIOS too much, just disable the onboard video and exit, it's easy to screw up bad if you don't know what you're doing.

[Looney]

What Fatal said! Dell is F12, Compaq is F12 older models are F2, some brands are F1... Look in your manual or let me know what brand it is and can post the correct way to enter your BIOS.

Even though some of your games worked Doom 3 is very picky. It is picking up on your onboard video because Doom 3 sees it and not the one you added.

[Neon Knight]

I don't think I can disable my onboard GFX in the BIOS, there isn't an option to edit GFX settings. Is there a way to physically disable the onboard graphics? Like a button on the actual motherboard or someting. I was always under the impression that the BIOS automatically disabled the onboard graphics if it detected a new graphics card.

What do you think I should do? I have posted on the Pheoniox BIOS (The BIOS I have) forum, to try to find out how to disable the onboard graphics, and I haven't had a reply yet.

[Looney]

Without knowing the brand name of your PC or Motherboard manufacture I can't help any further. I would need to refer to the manual on jumper or dip switch settings. Could be that you just didn't recognize the setting in your BIOS. Let me know what brand of PC or Motherboard you have so I can give you the correct info you need to shut off your onboard video.

[Neon Knight]

yeah, I know I have pheonix BIOS, but I'm not entirely sure about my motherboard.

Which category is my motherboard in under device manager?

I think I might have an
Intel(R) 82801DB LPC Interface Controller - 24C0
Is that a motherboard, or what?

[Neon Knight]

..............?

[MR_ROCKET]

With your onboard enabled and your other vid card installed, go in windows and disable the onboard drivers from within device manager..

Then reboot, go in the bios by hitting your "delete key"?.
Once in the bios, look for "init display first" (agp or pci) depending on which slot type you have your video card installed. - we want your video card to be your primary display.
This also depends on the bios chip type which also depends on the motherboard make, though if you have these settings mentioned above? , Then we'r on the right track..save settings to bios.
Unplug your monitor from your onboard video and plug it into your video card !

Now that your onboard drivers are disabled from within windows and the slot type has been selected in the bios, windows should see your video card and utilize it.

If the above has been helpful for you, then kickass!, update your video drives. ;)

If not, then yeah we would need the motherboard make and model # to be any more help.
On alot of boards the model # is on a sticker on the top of the peripheral i/o's or printed on the board in bold.

[Neon Knight]

err thats all been done.

I am using my pci graphics card, my onboard IS disabled in windows.

but doom3 still tries to use my onboard....




='[

[Looney]

I need the make and model of your PC if you want any further assistance.

Think of it this way... Would you blindfold a tech and tell them to fix your PC? No of course not. But not telling us the make and model of your PC is doing just that. There are litterly thousands of different PC's out there and just as many different bios configs. A Dell is different than a Compaq, Compaq is different than an Acer, Acer is different than an HP... They all have a BIOS made by Pheonix and are all different year to year.

If this don't help, take it to a tech in your area and he will have it up in a few moments. Most charge a $30-50 bench fee.
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Absolute Computer Solutions

[Neon Knight]

OK, here's the info that I already know about my PC:

I have a FUJITSU SIEMENS D1740

but it has been upgraded, RAM to 512, gfx card to geforce FX 5200.

My motherboard is a FUJITSU SIEMENS D1740 S26361-D1740
with a bus clock of 533 mhz

My processor is an intel celeron 2.93 Ghz
with a primary memory cache of 16 kb
and a secondary memory cache of 256 kilobytes.

I have 512 mb RAM

And, it's probably unnecessary to tell you, but I have a TEAC DVD+RW DV-W58E drive.

Is that all you need to know??


If not, just ask.

[Looney]

Apperintly I need this ID number to get to the manuals for your PC... Here is a link on where to find it.

http://support.fujitsu-siemens.com/Include/IdentHelp.asp?lng=COM

[Neon Knight]

OK,

I assume 'SNR' stands for 'serial number'

and that 'P./nr' is 'product number'

SNR : 3942270076
p./nr : scaleo p 501
scaleo p d1740

[MR_ROCKET]

Well if it's the Doom3 demo and only that, my guess the demo was installed while the onboard vid was still active, so another thing you can try first is deleting your DoomConfig.cfg located in your base folder. It wont hurt to try, the config will be recreated when you run the game.

[Neon Knight]

Nope. I installed the demo only a week ago. I disabled the onboard around february of this year, when I got my new gfx card.
And I've reinstalled doom3 demo twice to see if it would randomly decide to live...


I'll try it anyway

[Neon Knight]

>=[


It's not there.....

no doomconfig file.

='[

[MR_ROCKET]

heh it just seems strange that the game wants to use the disabled video.
Well, crosses fingers and hopefully Looney will come across the manual.

EDIT: wow there's no doomconfig.cfg?
I have the full game, surly the demo would have the same .cfg file?!?

I'll download the demo and see whats going on...arg

[Neon Knight]

heh yeah lol!

[Looney]

I'll keep trying to get to the manual, the site keeps giving me a server full error. :p

Manuals for Scaleo P C293 1 512MB
Select a new Product

The server is fully occupied at the moment. Please refresh the page or send an email to webmaster.support@fujitsu-siemens.com

[Neon Knight]

Oh dear!!

seems other people are having similar problems lol!

Never buy fujitsu siemens.....

lol

[Looney]

Just sent them an email to them as well.

[Neon Knight]

oh, ok, thanks!

[MR_ROCKET]

ok I checked out the demo, first time running a demo after I'v had the game a few years heh.
Anyways after running the demo, it creates a DoomConfig.cfg in the C:\Program Files\Doom 3 Demo\demo directory.
Question is, when you got the console info, did you get it from a initialization dialog on your desktop or was it from the ingame console?
If it's from ingame, have you tried "scanning hardware" from the option/system menu and then restarting the game?

heh above is similar to the readme.txt
TROUBLESHOOTING:

1. Video Issues
Please note that Doom 3 Demo will automatically configure optimal video
settings based on your computer's hardware. If your hardware changes
after install or if you wish to rescan, in the Main Menu: click
OPTIONS, SYSTEM, then click the SCAN HARDWARE AND SELECT OPTIMAL VIDEO
QUALITY button, then APPLY CHANGES. Any change in Screen Size and some
advanced options requires you to quit and restart Doom 3 for them to
take effect.

- or "after the changes", you can just drop the console and type: vid_restart
and press enter instead of restarting the game.

[Neon Knight]

it was on the desktop
='[

help?!?!?

[MR_ROCKET]

Let me get this right, your "primary display" is your FX5200 "pci" card in both the bios and windows?, and in windows the onboard is "disabled"? And your monitor is plugged into your FX5200 only?
right?
And you've updated your video drivers for the FX5200?
Yet the game only wants to use the onboard even though it's disabled in both bios and windows?
If all this checks out, then something very strange is going on here heh.

[Neon Knight]

Yes. That is all right.

I've double checked it countless times now...

[MR_ROCKET]

One last thing I could think of is, when you uninstall the demo, go in program files and delete the doom3 demo directory and then reinstall it from scratch. I noticed this after uninstalling that it left the old .cfg and things behind. so you could try that.

[Neon Knight]

K I'll try that....


but why would the config file be wrong?

Doesn't really make sense to me.

And do you think if I bought the full game, I would have the same problem?

[MR_ROCKET]

Well form the info received here so far theres only 2 combinations of problems.
1. you have 2 video outputs, only one you want to use which is nothing more than a matter of hardware configuration.
2. the game is/was installed before or after and has detected one or the other, also has retained that configuration until completely removed and or recreated.

If the matter is straightened out before you get the full version then no there shouldn't be a problem heh.

[Neon Knight]

Nope. I uninstalled it, deleted the directory, and reinstalled it, and it still didn't work. And I'm sure the hardware configuration is right....

*burn* *burn* *burn* *burn*

[MR_ROCKET]

If it was then there wouldn't be a problem heh.
I guess the only thing left to do is wait till Looney gets back with the manual to your motherboard so he can tell you how to enable your video card through the bios, because your 8 meg onboard video simply isn't going to work with doom3.
good luck

[Neon Knight]

Of course it won't lol!

my LAPTOP has more video memory!

And that thing sucks!

[The Undertaker]

An idea, how about turning it back on. So it will take up more memory and let you in perhaps. I know its sounds crazy but we're out of ideas at this point (unless Looney get something other than an automated response).

[FATAL]

the problem is that he hasn't properly disabled his video card in BIOS.

[Neon Knight]

ok, then, how DO I disable it in the BIOS?

I have checked the bios, and my primary display is my PCI...


And also, if that's true, why doesn't it do it with any other games?

Like Half Life 2, for example. That will NOT run on 8mb memory...

[MR_ROCKET]

Sure it will if your running a 3ghz system, hl2 should run with only 8 megs vid memory.
I's not near as demanding as doom3 when it comes to graphics.

If you checked the bios then why is Looney looking for a manual to access it?

In any case, if your monitor is plugged into your FX card and not your onboard and it displays something, then it should be active..
From that point make sure your dirextX version and drivers are up to date, and that the onboard is also disabled in windows, then make a clean install of the demo.

I ran the demo, play tested it fine, and it registered my 256mb 6800.

We'r just trying to help man, look over the pages in this topic and make sure everything is setup right.

[Neon Knight]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's all set up correctly, I have the latest direct X, I have the latest drivers for my gfx card, I have reinstalled Doom3 demo 4 times now -.-

hmmm

actually, I think the drivers for my 5200 are beta drivers...

Do you think that would have an effect?

I'm just scraping around for a last hope...


Is there an official help and support forum for Doom3?

I've been on the website, I haven't found one...they might know what to do there...

[Looney]

Not really, on the support site... We have several good techs and gamers here that can help you through this. I think it is an issue with conflicting cards. Because, I'm not sure you have the onboard turned off in the bios properly... This is why I want the manual. (They have yet to respond BTW) I know for a fact that if your onboard video is not properly disabed in the bios, things like this happen. If disabled properly, you wouldn't even need to disable it in Windows, Windows wouldn't detect it as even being there..... If you think you have it turned off properly in the bios.... Unistall the onboard video in Windows. (Don't Disable it) then reboot the system.... If Windows detects the onboard video, then it is Not turned off in the bios.... Make Seance? :)

[FATAL]

This just come in: some motherboard BIOSes don't have a simple "enable/disable" options for onboard graphics card, but some custom tricks you'll have to do. The instructions are on the manual.

[MR_ROCKET]

I'm hopeing it hasn't had that -altvid switch in the command line the whole time heh

If so I will ask Planky to stab you repeatedly with several highly sharpened toothpicks...
:D

[Neon Knight]

No, I took that off when I found it didn't work....

I'm not THAT much of a n00b, you know
hehe

[Neon Knight]

AHA!

Windows:
Found new hardware

!!!!!

I don't think it is disabled in the BIOS!!!

THERE IS HOPE YET!!!


And why do I have to be "Commander Keen"
What's that supposed to mean?

[FATAL]

I don't think it is disabled in the BIOS!!!
Of course, if it were disabled in BIOS then nothing would see it. You'll just have to find the manual and see how to disable it.

And why do I have to be "Commander Keen"
What's that supposed to mean?
Means that I'm a higher form of life than you. ;)

[Neon Knight]

http://support.fujitsu-siemens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16686&highlight=d1740+s26361d1740

(Fujitsu Siemens help forum d1740)

D=
(Quote)

it is not possible to disable the onboard VGA on the D1740.

(End Quote)


It's not me posting on there, it's just a random forum I found whilst browsing...


Once again,
D=

[MR_ROCKET]

Actually what your wanting to do is enable the primary display or init display first : PCI slot because your FX card is a PCI video card. - the same thing we'v been telling you.
Although in theory you are disabling the onboard vid at the same time this way.

[conorkirk]

DONT DO THIS:


open your comp, and break all the pins on the plug for the onboard.

[Neon Knight]

I HAVE set the primary display to PCI!!!!

I did it AGES ago asnd I've double checked it countless times!!!

[Looney]

I got the manuals and they are useless. They show none of the BIOS settings or board pin settings. *angry* I'm stuck as to what tell you... It sucks when these companies don't add things like this in the manuals any more.

[Neon Knight]

So what do you suggest I do?

Maybe I should just get another motherboard....

God that's a pain in the arse...

[Neon Knight]

o.O???????????

[Looney]

Yeah have to understand, I work two jobs and go to school I don't always get on daily. ;)

Getting a new MB is up to you... I know if I were you I would look into getting a different MB or new comp that is upgradeable.

[Neon Knight]

Yeah, Im thinking of upgrading my PC to have a new motherboard (with a PCI express expantion slot and a 939 processor slot) , getting a geforce 7900 GT, getting more ram, and getting an AMD processor, a new case and a new power supply.

Basically the only thing that ISN'T upgraded is my hard drive....

all in all will cost in the region of 450 quid.

:D :D :D :D

Doom3 had better bloody work then...

[Neon Knight]

do you think there is any plausible way for doom3 demo to work with my current motherboard? Any at all??

[FATAL]

Basically the only thing that ISN'T upgraded is my hard drive....
I totally agree.

[MR_ROCKET]

Well as long as the demo isn't currently being installed on the same bad spot on your hdd, then I don't see a problem heh

[Neon Knight]

Well as long as the demo isn't currently being installed on the same bad spot on your hdd, then I don't see a problem heh



...I don't get it.

[Looney]

Not sure what he is talking about either. :p

[FATAL]

Oh I get it!

[Neon Knight]

O.o...

enlighten me, please!!!

[MR_ROCKET]

The end of page 3.
Basically the only thing that ISN'T upgraded is my hard drive....
Well as long as the demo isn't currently being installed on the same bad spot on your hdd, then I don't see a problem heh


That is if you possibly had a bad spot on your drive heh.

[Neon Knight]

Ah right....

OK, I get it now....

[FATAL]

Oooh, so that's what you meant.

[Neon Knight]

do you think there is any plausible way for doom3 demo to work with my current motherboard? Any at all??

yes, that's right. I'm back.

do you think there is any plausible way for doom3 demo to work with my current motherboard? Any at all??

[Neon Knight]

do you think there is any plausible way for doom3 demo to work with my current motherboard? Any at all??

Well? Is there?

[FATAL]

Please re-enlighten us. At least I've forgotten about this case totally, and I'm not in the detective mood.

[Neon Knight]

umm...

something about detecting the wrong graphics card on doom3 demo. But the problem is..

it says it detects 8mb video memory, but my onboard has 64 mb vid memory....
and my geforce 5200 has 256.

So I don't think it's the onboard thing.

[Neon Knight]

The whole upgrade idea never happened.

I bought myself a BC rich platinum warlock instead. =D

[Neon Knight]

wait wait wait....

I just tryed the demo again after cleaning my graphics card and putting it into a different slot...

and it worked!! *spin*

The demo worked!!! (completed it in about an hour)

Must've been some kind of conflicting driver problem or something....because I changed the slot, installed the drivers again and it just worked. Just like that.

well, I'm off to buy the full version on amazon...

cya!