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Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 03:09 PM
Whats your favorite port for Doom? For me its Risen3D cus it has all the features of ZDoom in the Doomsday Environment. So its compatible with all the resource packs of Doomsday with 3D floors!

Hans
April 28th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Doomsday Rulez

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 03:19 PM
ya got that right. But so does Risen ;)

Hans
April 28th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Yeah risen is okay too but it doesn't run that good on my laptop i'll get a new laptop as soon as i have the money

Grazza
April 28th, 2006, 03:26 PM
My default port is Prboom-plus. I use others if a wad specifically needs one.

General Greivous
April 28th, 2006, 03:29 PM
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Doomsday ;)

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 04:31 PM
that right der is perdy *bliss*


Hey look! Its my 100th post!! HOORAY FOR ME!! now on to 150 posts to get a custom avatar :D

lucius octavion
April 28th, 2006, 05:03 PM
I love Risen 3d, the darn problem with that they wont make a linux version and it is missing some featrues doomsday have, other than that it is pretty much better

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 05:08 PM
ya i know. But 3D floors, Swimmable water, and Slopes fills in the hypothetical Cavities left by the missing features. But I still wish that they included Multiplayer in 2.0.

Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2006, 06:13 PM
I love whatever port plays the maps I want to play at any given time. I'm not only using one. That would be stupid. The three I use most are JDoom, Legacy, and ZDoom. I will use others if a specific wad motivates me to though.

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 06:21 PM
lol i hear ya! :D

Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2006, 06:25 PM
General Grievous makes sweet-looking maps. He's half the reason I have JDoom. :D

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 06:26 PM
I know I wanna play some of his!

Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2006, 06:33 PM
So go find some and play them. He's been mapping for quite a while now. :)

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 06:43 PM
can you give me any links?

Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2006, 06:47 PM
Nope. I lack links. He might be able to post some when he reappears or you can just poke around the forums or Google.

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 06:50 PM
*pokes around forums and accidentally pokes a random person in the ear*
*gets yelled at by person*
*trys to apologize to person*
*person asks if I want a present*
*says yes*
*recieves a black eye from person*

General Greivous
April 28th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Give me about 10 minutes and you'll have a demo of The Exiled ;)

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 07:30 PM
thx alot dude *thumbs*

General Greivous
April 28th, 2006, 07:34 PM
I'll be making a thread about it in the Editing forum in in just a minute.

Steeveeo
April 28th, 2006, 08:01 PM
roger that and 10-4 *winky*

WinstonSmith6079
April 29th, 2006, 03:35 AM
My fav is GZDoom. I used to use ZDoom, until GZDoom came around. (GZDoom is ZDoom-based, of course.) I'm a bit of a loyalist to GZDoom, which I'm not entirely sure is a good thing, as I'm probably missing other good ports like JDoom and PRBoom+.

General Greivous: I'm assuming by now that you have a few JDoom-only WADs. Where can I get a list of them to pick from? Maybe I'd like to try one or more 'coz I must say that pics I've seen (not just in this thread) do look impressive.

Logan MTM
April 29th, 2006, 04:27 AM
I don't know why but... I love and still believing in Legacy. *sulk*

Dutch Devil
April 29th, 2006, 04:47 AM
My favourite port would't be Gzdoom, ive got some more ports too Jdoom prboom risen3d legacy zdoom that are all ports ive installed atm.

Wa59
April 29th, 2006, 09:19 AM
C2Doom for sure, it's a doom port for ngage, allows you to play custom maps anywhere...
unfortunally it doesn't support 3D Floors and others special lines

For Pc... Doomsday for it's graphics and ZDoom for it's resources

Doom Legacy is the perfect middle-term

Steeveeo
April 29th, 2006, 09:22 AM
oh well. At least you have portable doom! I heard there was somtm like that for the video Ipod but it was like 3 frames per second and kinda hard to control.

Wa59
April 29th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Doom control on Ngage is a little bit hard to get used with.. because the ngage doesn't have shoulders buttons... but after some time you can play it like on a PC

The FPS on ngage is high, just some heavy wads make the fps drop a little...
Sorry for my english, i'm writing this fast =P

Logan MTM
April 29th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Zdoom, GZDoom, Legacy... Why all progamers don't work together for a only one port ??? :(

Hans
April 29th, 2006, 02:33 PM
C2Doom for sure, it's a doom port for ngage, allows you to play custom maps anywhere...

I do have a laptop i can also play costum maps anywhere*bliss*

Logan MTM
April 29th, 2006, 04:10 PM
I do have a laptop i can also play costum maps anywhere*bliss*
Hehe... Luck guy !!! *laugh*

rustyslacker
April 29th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Why all progamers don't work together for a only one port ???
It'd be an awesome port, sure, but there would be a huge argument and possibly a flame war on what features should be in it, and then it would take waaay too long to be released anyway.

KuriKai
April 29th, 2006, 07:00 PM
I choose doomsday because it keeps the feel of the original doom while improving the visual and audial aspect of it. I dont play pwads so I don't need all those extra scripting stuff

doomjedi
April 29th, 2006, 11:14 PM
Zdoom.
Fast (both loading and playing), adds features but is truthful to the source's "spirit", easy to drag wads and deh files into.
The most useful port.

If only it had Legacy's splitscreen... :( So I use Legacy alot, but only for splitscreen

rustyslacker
April 30th, 2006, 10:57 AM
I use Legacy a lot because it's so awesome. :)

I use ZDoom, but only for PWADS, and prBoom, for testing my maps.

Logan MTM
May 1st, 2006, 10:38 PM
...and then it would take waaay too long to be released anyway.
Maybe not rusty... Just the "Source Port War" stop.

rustyslacker
May 3rd, 2006, 06:46 PM
Yeah, and that would be nice. :)

abysmal
May 7th, 2006, 01:48 AM
I would say Doomsday if my computer didnt freeze with the good graphics mode.
I would say next zDoom but my computer runs really (very) slow with it.
Legacy!!! It has very sweet graphics, runs fast with high resolutions, nice launcher. I use it for all my main playing.
Chocolate for all wad testing unless it crashes, I will test with zDoom. It was probably a zDoom wad anyway.
I use Doom95 strictly for watching demos and recording demos, easy and compatible demos.

and...when Doom95 makes my mouse pointer disappear after closing, I start Legacy to title screen, then exit. My mouse pointer comes back everytime, by just loading Legacy. Another reason to love it.

Nuxius
May 7th, 2006, 01:37 PM
GZDoom, Risen3D and PRBoom+ are the ports I use most by far. I like all 3 of them for different reasons, so picking a favorite out of them would be difficult.

Wa59
May 8th, 2006, 04:09 AM
I do have a laptop i can also play costum maps anywhere*bliss*

Do you carry your laptop in your pocket ?
i don't think soo.... when i say anywhere i MEAN anywhere =P

sitters
May 9th, 2006, 12:13 AM
For me Risen3D.

The only port on the moment that can handle my maps.:)

Willem.

Hans
May 9th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Do you carry your laptop in your pocket ?
i don't think soo.... when i say anywhere i MEAN anywhere =P

No i have a bag for that i almost take my laptop everywhere i go like work so if i have some stress i could always play doom and kick some demon butt:)

abysmal
May 9th, 2006, 06:11 AM
Actually I take back Legacy as my favorite port. I will wait till 2.0 to change my mind.
Theres just way too many missing textures. In ultimate doom I noticed a few till e3m7 when alot of walls and other things had see through textures. Im all the way up to Plutonia now and map02 has way too many also. Doom2 and TNT had a few but nothing to distract from game play.

I now stick with Chocolate I love the way it plays.

And with zDoom maps I figured out to just use Skulltag. Skulltag is much faster and had decent graphics.

ace
May 9th, 2006, 03:45 PM
I like using several different ports, however when it comes to mapping there's only one for me: ZDoom. It has all the features I need, DECORATE, ACS, MAPINFO, SNDINFO, LOCKDEF, DECALDEF, Hexen features, etc, etc. I notice the first post by Steeveeo (did he just leave or something because of the postcount reset?) says Risen3D has all that ZDoom has. I don't think it has all that, though! ;)

GZDoom is cool too but sadly the hardware mode really taxes a low-end system with detailed wads (like TNT2, 3, and LE...).

Theres just way too many missing textures. In ultimate doom I noticed a few till e3m7 when alot of walls and other things had see through textures. Im all the way up to Plutonia now and map02 has way too many also. Doom2 and TNT had a few but nothing to distract from game play.

That's because of the weird nodebuilding issue with legacy that causes holes in walls/floors/ceilings. For that I recommend running any wad with that probalo through ZenNode (http://www.mrousseau.org/programs/ZenNode/).

And with zDoom maps I figured out to just use Skulltag. Skulltag is much faster and had decent graphics.

The way I see it, come on, you're playing Doom. Doom has olde graphics. If you dropped Doom for the way it looked you would be missing out on a ton of stuffs. So ZDoom is 8-bit. At least it offers resolutions much higher than 320x200... I never have speed issues with ZDoom either, although being a software port it prolly wouldn't be recommended for slower PCs... I have a 2.7GHz but it does still lag (though it didn't at one point, oddly) whilst looking through transparent lines.

abysmal
May 9th, 2006, 05:17 PM
I have run the wads through Zenode and BSP but niether did much/anything.

Skulltag is based off zDoom with extra muliplayer features, so all zDoom maps work with it. I have 700Mhz after I upgraded, thats the highest my PC goes. Some reason Skulltag plays very smoothly in high-res, while zDoom slows to a crawl with low-res.

I dont drop ports becuase of graphics. Im currently playing in Chocolate. But missing textures can reveal rooms, keys and secrets making less suprises that detract from gameplay.

The Hand
May 30th, 2006, 12:39 AM
Risen 3d is the only i hvae the least problems with

Devan
May 31st, 2006, 08:03 AM
I don't know. I like Doom legacy, Jdoom, Risen3D, and GZDoom

Devan
June 8th, 2006, 01:46 AM
But I think the best port can be Legacy, GZDoom and Doomsday fusion :)

rustyslacker
June 9th, 2006, 09:54 AM
I like Risen3D. I use it to play mp3 music, but I might try learning some of its features someday.

Raptor Jesus
June 11th, 2006, 10:29 PM
O: you don't have Skulltag in the list. That is the best port for multiplayer. Has quake 3 style rewards. Almost like takening doom and making it quake 3. Still a REALLY awesome port.

WinstonSmith6079
June 15th, 2006, 06:44 PM
Skulltag is sure better than ZDaemon in almost every way, if not every way. But I sure hated the...um..."community" that formed around it. I think Skulltag might be/have been even better if it weren't for that.

The ZDeamon port is so awful that it just needs to die, and doesn't deserve to be called anything Doom. (Its community is also filled with almost nothing but annoying, headache-inducing n00bs.) In fact, there was a time when ZDaemon would "secretly" include the IWADs with it's bundle. For all I know, they still may be doing that right now.

DooMAD
June 17th, 2006, 05:00 AM
Skulltag is sure better than ZDaemon in almost every way, if not every way. But I sure hated the...um..."community" that formed around it. I think Skulltag might be/have been even better if it weren't for that.

The ZDeamon port is so awful that it just needs to die, and doesn't deserve to be called anything Doom. (Its community is also filled with almost nothing but annoying, headache-inducing n00bs.)
Having used both ZDaemon and Skulltag for a few months now, I can say with some certainty that the supposed problem with these two communities is greatly exaggerated. Every community has it's fair share of idiots, that's just the way the internet is. There's absolutely nothing to stop you playing the game and having a good time doing so.

In fact, there was a time when ZDaemon would "secretly" include the IWADs with it's bundle. For all I know, they still may be doing that right now.
No. IWADs have never been included, secretly or otherwise. The controversy lies with GetWAD, a program which automatically downloads WADs required to play. It's intended use is to obtain custom PWADS because anyone playing legitimately will already have an IWAD. It should also be mentioned that GetWAD can be used with Skulltag too.

Turrican
June 18th, 2006, 08:29 AM
For now, i've only used Legacy and Jdoom. I like both :) , but voted for Legacy :D

MR_ROCKET
June 19th, 2006, 05:01 PM
Well after watching Doom do nothing but get better and better over the years, I like all the sourceports. and use what I have to depending on the pwad.
It's been like what? over 12 years..
Just goes to show Doom wont die, it will only get better.

abysmal
June 21st, 2006, 04:17 PM
Doomsday 1.7.13!!
It runs much faster on my computer than the newest versions. GL with medium resolutions are very smooth and I can even add sprite smoothing. Doomsday is now my main port.
I still really like Chocolate, but now I use it mostly for testing and quick speedruns.

FATAL
June 21st, 2006, 04:51 PM
jDoom has the smoothest working and neatest looking business around. I vote jdoom.

Kahn
June 26th, 2006, 12:18 AM
Yeah when it comes to playing wads, Doomsday gets my vote (Smart Texture Filtering and also defining custom music through DED)

As for creating levels i'd have to say Gzdoom (awesome amount of features).

ich
June 26th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Dang, where's Eternity? I'd vote for that.

Jive
July 21st, 2006, 07:35 PM
GZDoom, perfect for me, with a great compatibilty with Legacy: 3D floors fully available, FraggleScripting on the way to be fully compatible. No more gaps in textures, no more any visual bug everywhere, awesome ZDoom ligthings. For now, I don't see any negative point, when there are a bunch with Legacy.
I don't use Zdoom (why should I, when GZDoom is 100% compatible?!?), nor ZDoomGl (for the same reason)
Jdoom: I don't like the colors everywhere, which make me think that I smoked too much shit, but I perfectly understand the opposite feeling.

So, my choice is GZdoom.

Do have a look at THIS MESSAGE (http://forums.newdoom.com/showpost.php?p=477634&postcount=48), and you'll understand why!!!

xbolt
July 23rd, 2006, 01:40 AM
I use both Doomsday and Legacy. But I voted for Legacy, because it has 3d floors and FraggleScript, and it's the only one that currently supports Chex Quest.

Graf_Zahl
July 23rd, 2006, 03:52 AM
and it's the only one that currently supports Chex Quest.


There goes your credibility! :D

xbolt
July 24th, 2006, 12:23 AM
Eh? What? I don't get it. What do you mean?

Kristian
July 24th, 2006, 01:26 PM
PrBoom-plus. Maintains excellent compatibility with the original (or as Opulent would say, real) game, has full Boom support, and a vast number of nice features for the demo crowd.

EDIT: xbolt, when you say "Chex Quest" do you mean this (http://www.doomlegends.com/chexquest/)? The original "Chex Quest" was released in 1996, before work on the Legacy source port had even begun. ;-)

xbolt
July 24th, 2006, 03:53 PM
I mean it's the only port that recognizes the original chex.wad. Also, when running in chex mode, Legacy is pretty faithful to the original Chex Quest. The pickup messages are correct, the game ends after E1M5, etc.
However, in 1.42 it's not perfect. The death messages are wrong, the different episodes are selectable, etc. But those are fixed in the CVS. I wish they would compile it into 1.43 or something so the other half of Chex Quest works. (hint, hint Legacy developers ;) )
But I've still yet to see another port that does that much!

Catoptromancy
August 4th, 2006, 08:45 PM
ZDoom. Quite a few high quality pwads, Plays all doom engine games. It is constantly being upgraded and debugged.
Plays wads directly from the ZIP file. No need to unzip wads anymore. I would have 2 gigs more space on my harddrive, if the 2.1.1 and over versions came out sooner. I have way too many wads.
The main multiplayer ports are based on it, so swapping config files and aliases make it very easy to make it play like online ports.
Rarely crashes with misbuilt wads, but sometimes will actually tell you whats wrong with the wad.
Only port I use, unless I am testing compatibility.
I would probably play GZDoom if my computer did not suck.
Chocolate Doom is definately next, so very sweet.

WinstonSmith6079
August 7th, 2006, 07:31 PM
Eh? What? I don't get it. [To Graf_Zahl:] What do you mean?He means that GZDoom plays not only ZDoom WADs, but Legacy WADs as well, such as Chex Quest.

lucius octavion
August 8th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Yeah, but that stinks because The Ultimate Chex Quest takes advantage of things hard coded in the legacy engine (dynamic lights/ heretic things) so gzdoom won't play it. So chex quest is still basically best with legacy.

Osiris's_Legacy
September 7th, 2006, 04:24 AM
I usually use Legacy, but now I sometimes use GZDoom and Doomsday, at least until Legacy2 comes out.

Devan
July 8th, 2007, 04:32 AM
I know what source port would be the best! However, I don't think it will ever exist. GZDoomsday Legacy! :)

jake250
July 8th, 2007, 08:14 PM
GZDoom all the way. Doomsday's better graphic isn't worth the lost of all the possibilities.

My main problem with GZDoom is all the problem I encounter when trying to play online with friend. Actually I don't even know how to ... Anyway, For that, I use Doom Legacy.

Jonathan Paskiewicz
July 12th, 2007, 11:26 PM
I like both, ZDOOM and DOOMsday. ZDOOM is best one, the other is ok.

SgtMagor
July 13th, 2007, 08:16 AM
I started using Risen3D since it was first released, even though my puter is ancient it runs this port really well, plus with all the added features its a Doomers dream come true :)

lucius octavion
July 13th, 2007, 09:45 AM
I know what source port would be the best! However, I don't think it will ever exist. GZDoomsday Legacy! :)

How about RisenskullGZDoomsdayLegacyTag!

Devan
July 14th, 2007, 03:47 AM
How about RisenskullGZDoomsdayLegacyTag!
I don't know how about Risen, but yes, I forgot SkullTag which has better bots than ZDoom/GZDoom and is played by many people on the internet :)

doomjedi
July 14th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Skulltag is not really a port, but a mod, as I see it, though definitely one of the best ones

I prefer gameplay and creativity (meaning modding options) to "visual candy", especially as Doom will never stand up to today's games standards visually, yet has unforgettable gameplay.
So zDoom/Skulltag are the ports for me.
The only other port I use is Doom Legacy, for splitscreen coop/dm.
If zDoom would have that feature as well, I'd not use any other port. Ever.

Nomad
July 14th, 2007, 11:53 AM
I came for the Legacy, I stayed for the Doomsday, but have come to greatly enjoy Skulltag. But since Skulltag is basically just ZDoom with tweaked graphics and additional weapons, I voted for ZDoom.

doomjedi
July 14th, 2007, 09:23 PM
It's interesting the Doom Legacy was the first Doom port I've discovered, and it impressed me deeply. It took some time before I discovered it's not the only port for Doom :)

Devan
July 19th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Legacy isn't my favourite sourceport right now. Reason - Legacy 2.0 hasn't been released yet :) But I and my friend sometimes play it using splitscreen. I use only keyboard. He uses keyboard and mouse. This means his control is better, but I almost always beat him in DM :) The only time I lost I remember was when we played my level (yes, that huge flat) and ammo didn't respawn. I don't remember if that was a bug or respawn items was just turned off.

I also like Doomsday Engine because of modern graphics and GZDoom because it has ZDoom modding features + OpenGL with 3D floors and 3D slopes.

Ninja_of_DooM
July 19th, 2007, 10:42 AM
I moved away from port "fanboy-ism" a loooong time ago, though most of the time I just use ZDoom to play my vanilla stuff. But any other time a wad comes out for a specific port I'll go and use it instead. each to their own I guess.

But I will tip my hat to Legacy for being the port which introduced me to the novelty of Doom with mouselooking! :p before then I couldn't even understand how people were so good at playing without it. But then again, playing PSX Quake II was a pain because looking up and down was restricted to the shoulder buttons which is hard to do when you're already running around shooting stuff. it required a bit of contoting of the digits. But somehow I managed to make it look easy and wonder how I managed to pull it off now.

Anyway, I'm trailing off here. So....Doomsday is also pretty cool. :D I quite enjoyed playing Doom in fancy 3D graphics, especially with the odle Abbs weapon pack.

Danimetal
July 20th, 2007, 05:51 PM
My vote goes to Legacy... Not sure of why but maybe I have been editing for it for a long time and I've got used to its particularities. I don't know, I found it charming.

JohnnyRancid
July 20th, 2007, 06:27 PM
I hate zdooms features such as deep water and slopes but the scripting and decorate stuff is phenomenal. And it runs at a fantastic framerate on older comps like the ones my buddies use. If Skulltag were considered a port there'd be no question that that would be my selected port as I use that the most.

I used to be a huge doomsday fan but I grew out of it. Legacy appeared to be pretty much the same thing.

Doom-Dork
July 29th, 2007, 07:24 AM
My favourite port is Southampton on the south coast of England.*roflmao*