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AbareKiller
January 14th, 2006, 10:39 PM
I am having problems getting past the missle firing minotaur looking guy in this level. Can anyone give me any advice that might help?

FATAL
January 15th, 2006, 02:53 AM
Heh, it's called cyberdemon, but that doesn't matter, your description fits fine.
First of all, you should be using Plasma Rifle against it. It's tough, so you'll need to deal quite some damage for it to die. If you run out of plasma, consider using the rocket launcher.

Secndly, dodge all the time. The little bugger keeps on firing always towards your exact position, so if you keep still, you will surely get your face hammered. Run away if you're in a tight spot. You're a lot faster than the cyberdemon. Look for some health pickups in the middle building, there's one soulsphere waiting to be picked up.

Hope this helps

ace
January 15th, 2006, 07:39 AM
Yes, fighting a Cyber for the first time is always a challenge, especially when not using a port of some kind. I agree with Fatal on plasma gun and running around. Once I got the hang of it I found that if the area is right as well as nice and open, facing a Cyberdemon with a supershotgun can be relatively easy albeit a waste of ammo.

Two Cybers, on the other hand, is definitely not a cakewalk. Case in point: Simplicity. I died several times trying to beat them... dern traps. :p

Also, keep in mind that while a Cyberdemon always fires to your exact location, only three rockets are fired at a time. You can use the break in-between to get some extra damage dealt or to find health/ammo if you can do it fast enough.

By the way, just so you know, according to The Rules (http://forums.newdoom.com/showthread.php?t=11812) (as well as the recent Out-of-control Signatures Address (http://forums.newdoom.com/showthread.php?t=29078)), images for signatures can be no larger than 400x100 pixels, no exceptions. Just so you know in case it ends up being removed otherwise.

Vermil
January 15th, 2006, 07:54 AM
First of all, you should be using Plasma Rifle against it. It's tough, so you'll need to deal quite some damage for it to die. If you run out of plasma, consider using the rocket launcher.

Given a choice, I wouldn't use a Rocket Launcher against a Cyber Demon. Since it's immune to the splash damage, which is where most of the damage a rocket does comes from ;)

Makes you wonder why ID placed all those boxes of rockets on that level...*diablo*

AbareKiller
January 15th, 2006, 09:24 AM
probably to make it harder for people because it would make them think that you are supposed to use rockets.

About the sig size...I do not know how to make it smaller...is there anyone here who can do that for me and make it the right size? Thanks in advance.

ace
January 15th, 2006, 11:06 AM
Resizing the image takes nearly no work at all. At most all you need is MS Paint to do it, considering the fact that it comes with all Windows platforms it isn't a big deal at all.

Just so you know, the steps are easy:
1) On the left-side toolbar, click the select tool (it's a dashed rectangle).
2) Move the cursor to pixel 0,0 (at the very top left-hand corner) of the picture; there are coordinates at the bottom for assistance.
3) Click and drag all the way to the bottom right-hand corner of the picture.
4) Take the lower right-hand corner axle and drag it until it says in the lower right-hand corner of the screen the dimensions you want it to be (in this case it would say 400x100).
5) Click out of this box and then drag the lower right-hand corner of the main box and drag it until the white space is gone and the dimension in the lower right-hand corner says the size you want it to be (400x100). Save the file and call it done.

Very easy job.
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2096/bakuryuuchange0iy.jpg


Good luck with the Cyberdemon.

AbareKiller
January 15th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Thank you for the resize. I highly appreciate it.

Ffabbia
January 25th, 2006, 12:48 PM
He can be tough when you meet him for the first time. I remember trying (and dying) again and again on my first attempt. What a shock he was!! and that stomping sound he makes scared the hell out of me. He seems kind of easy when I face him now though.

The fastest way to defeat him is just to circlestrafe with the plasma gun (yes it's the best weapon for the job in my opinion), but the 'safe' method involves hiding behind the pillars, taking pot shots, and getting back undercover quickly to avoid the splash damage from his rockets (which he tends to fire in volleys, and can be hard for inexperienced players to avoid).

In all cases, don't get too close, keep your distance, and keep plugging away, and getting out of reach when he retaliates. Eventually he will fall. Welcome to Inferno!

Danimetal
January 25th, 2006, 01:29 PM
I remember that I tried to hide behind those marble cubes. There are little leaks between the cube and the central structure so I tried to fire my shotgun from there. Of course, he´d plug a missile into the leak.

DeusExMachina
January 26th, 2006, 08:50 AM
Cyberdemons are easy enough if you've got plenty of space, but if you're facing one in cramped conditions, then you can put your head between your knees, and kiss you r ass goodbye...

lucius octavion
January 26th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Or just cheat.

Unlimited
January 27th, 2006, 03:12 AM
Or just cheat.

*squint* cheats?? thats not the right way...

Doom-Dork
February 11th, 2006, 06:15 PM
I find that the Cyberdemon, sometimes moves into the rooms where the spare ammo is kept. I find this a good time to keep plugging away at him.

Kuwabara
February 25th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Yes.when he follows you into a room then get out of there and blast the freakin' heck out of him! and i agree,the plasma gun is the best gun for the job.(too bad i died the first time and lost it.)

lucius octavion
February 26th, 2006, 09:34 AM
You can beat a cyberdemon easily with any weapon as long as it is not the fist or chainsaw because he'll just blash you away. Just dodge the rockets and you're safe.

Dutch Devil
February 26th, 2006, 11:18 AM
Ive seen demo's from people fisting an cyber to death without berserk, that takes an huge ammount of patience :)
It was on the tower of babel level (e2m8), e2m9 is fortress of mystery btw

FATAL
February 26th, 2006, 11:57 AM
We knew that! :p

Hans
February 26th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Ive seen demo's from people fisting an cyber to death without berserk, that takes an huge ammount of patience :)
It was on the tower of babel level (e2m8), e2m9 is fortress of mystery btw

oh man why would people even try it if they had nothing better to do with all that time
spend on it

Dutch Devil
February 26th, 2006, 03:40 PM
Yeah but you get an good kick out of it once completed.

Hans
February 26th, 2006, 03:48 PM
Yeah but if you are beating it for an hour and then he fires a fatal rocket you can kick yourself

Kuwabara
February 26th, 2006, 08:57 PM
Man.that would take quite a long time to kill a Cyber-Demon with your fists.

Kristian
March 5th, 2006, 02:38 PM
It takes exactly 28 minutes and 10 seconds (ftp://competn.doom2.net:8002/pub/compet-n/doom/tyson/t2m82810.zip).

Logan MTM
March 26th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Heh... My record against Cyberdemom is 17 punchs before take a rocket in my face !!!

Come on how give more *bang*

rustyslacker
March 26th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Come on how give more *bang*
Uhh....what?

Dutch Devil
March 27th, 2006, 06:00 AM
Cyberdemom...it sounds like my mother with hydraulic parts.

Logan MTM
April 23rd, 2006, 11:51 AM
Uhh....what?
...nevermind. *ugh*

abysmal
May 4th, 2006, 04:11 PM
I beat the first 2 episodes with only shells, clips and chainsaw of course.
That cyberdemon took 400 bullets and 40 shells.

The most fulfilling way of beating the cyberdemon is to stand right in front of it and strafe the rockets.
Or you can strafe and straferun like crazy around it and fire whatever you got. Rockets if you have a large area to run.