Outdoor levels

[Mike D]

I'm looking for decent Doom or Doom 2 levels that focus on outdoor areas, particularly forests. Has anyone ever done a good forest?

Mike

[+Acyclitor+]

forest levels are kinda rare, as the Doom engine dosn't have any easy way to create them. Goblin Doom TC did have a forest level, though, try searching for it. also, Hexen has some foresty places.

[FATAL]

Some Aztec level for jdoom has a pretty good jungle thingy in the start, but it doesn't last for very long.

I believe that with jdoom it would be pretty easy to make good looking forests with 3d models. Of course, if you're a good modeller, that is. Then again, the trees wouldn't have to look ultra detailed.

[The Undertaker]

FFDoom (http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=10684)
Oh, you said a decent level.

[Aliotroph?]

Making forests in a DooM-engine game is one crazy challenge. Even if you get a stack of nice-looking trees, then the terrain is tricky. HeXen did an ok job by usking steep ledges and cramped rock formations with some appropriate textures, some trees and blowing leaves.

[Grazza]

You might take a look at the following two:
Skyewood (http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/skyewood.zip) by Steve Rescoe (pretty sure it's the same one who now works for id).
Grove (http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/grove.zip) by B.P.R.D. - well, it has lots of trees.

[Mike D]

Skyewood was trippy, complete with magic mushrooms. Grove's framerate was terrible, so I found AltGrove, whose framerate was somewhat less terrible. Thanks for the intel.

Mike

[shtbag667]

You know, if you can't find many outdoor levels you can always make your own. I'm putting together a tree resource wad if your interested. I have 12 - 15 types made so far.

[Grazza]

Grove's framerate was terrible, so I found AltGrove, whose framerate was somewhat less terrible.
I find the original Grove works fine with glboom - a bit of slowdown, but nothing that's a real problem, and there aren't any problematic dark areas either. I've therefore never felt the need to get AltGrove, but I imagine that will be silky smooth in glboom.

If you have problems finding your way around the map, Little Faith wrote a walkthrough (http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21874). If you have problems with Skyewood, then you might find my Nightmare demos (http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25966) useful (though I don't reveal all secrets, or necessarily use the intended routes).

Another one you might be interested in is Real (http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/real.zip) by Joe Zona.

[Mike D]

You know, if you can't find many outdoor levels you can always make your own. I'm putting together a tree resource wad if your interested. I have 12 - 15 types made so far.

I definitely would be...just give us a heads up on the boards sometime, because I probably won't be the only interested party.

Grazza, thanks much for your general helpfulness here. Haven't tried the glboom thing yet with Grove, but when I do I'll report on how it worked. I gave Real a whirl, though...the big base at the end was great!

Mike

[Grazza]

I should clarify something: by glboom, I mean the GL version of recent releases of PrBoom (e.g. 2.2.6 or 2.3.1), and not the very old version 2.03. In 2.2.6 it is a separate exe included in the distribution package, and in 2.3.1, you just choose the OpenGL renderer in-game. Performance relative to the software renderer will depend on your hardware and system specs, naturally.