NDCP Conglom Map Idea

[Doom_Dude]

I started a new map using some of the NDCP textures and was wondering if anybody would like to help work on it. I have 2 rooms and a short hallway done so far. I thought we might each take a hack at this and come up with a conglomeration that would fit into the megawad, if it's needed. My idea is that whoever posts here and says they want to work on it, I'll give them the map and then they can give it back and then I'll post again and somebody else can have a go. So the first guy who posts gets to work on it next.

Rulez:
- Only those who are currently on the NDCP team can work on this.
- Size doesn't matter. Make a single room or half a level, whatever and then send it back to me....
- Don't use those fake 3d floors.
- Don't use any Cyb's or Spidery Masterminds.
- The theme is mainly tech but if you want to make a hellish area or a goth castle area then go for it.
- About any existing areas that other people have made. Don't mess with them, but you can add doorways and windows to any existing architecture.
- Try to leave at least one spot where somebody can make a door.
- Don't use any of the keys. When it's done I'll probably tweak the gameplay somewhat and might add a keyed door or two just to make it more interesting.

I thought this would be fun and if this level isn't needed in the final NDCP megawad it'll be released as a seperate wad. Here is a screenie of what I did to my part.

http://img228.exs.cx/img228/1384/conglom015zl.th.jpg (http://img228.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img228&image=conglom015zl.jpg)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Its looking good DD. I may be able to add something to it on Friday. I have some free time then.

[Aliotroph?]

Sounds fun. :D Too bad I fell asleep earlier so I couldn't pester you on ICQ about it.

[Mystic]

once those two have had a go I want a shot at it too.

[PumpkinSmasher]

So are you gonna send me a PM or something?

[DoomedAce]

This is a good idea. I'm planning to finish Map03 as soon as possible, so after that's done I might help out on this one, too.

[Doom_Dude]

So are you gonna send me a PM or something?

Huh? Oooh yeah the map jobby. I just sent you a PM with the linkage. If you can't download it off the Fourwinds I can email you. ;) Have fun PumpkinSmasher.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I got it downloaded. I'll begin looking at it now. Do you want me to send it to you when I'm finished or pass it on to Alio?

[Doom_Dude]

Just send it to me please when your done. ;)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Alright I think I'm pretty much finished with what i want to do now, i may ask for it back again later. But I'm having trouble testing it, I think I may have an old version of the resource wad and taht is causing the problem.

[Doom_Dude]

Ooh ok. You can grab the latest resource here:
ftp://megawad@server1.thefourwinds.net/misc/newdtex.zip

Whenever your done you can email it to me: vilecore(AT)gmail.com

[PumpkinSmasher]

Alright...that fixed the problem. I just e-mailed the map to you. I didn't do a whole lot, probably about the amount you had done. So you can ship it off to the next person now. Depending on when it is I'll sign up to recieve the map agian after these other people have seen it, maybe I'll have a few more ideas by then.

[Doom_Dude]

Thanks PumpkinSmasher. I like what you added onto the level and how you went with the theme. :D Sending the map over to Aliotroph? now.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I tried to keep with the theme you were using. I really liked what you had given me to start with.

[Doom_Dude]

Cool. Now we wait for Alio?. No hurry tho.

By the way what editor did you use?

[PumpkinSmasher]

I used Doom Builder

[Doom_Dude]

I guess nobody else is interested.

[DoomedAce]

I am, actually. But I'm having a hard time trying to finish Map03 right now. I know what I want to do with it, but somehow I just can't seem to get myself motivated to do the work. Maybe I should just contribute a few rooms to this one.

[DOOM_GOAT]

I would be, but I haven't finished tweaking my first map yet

[PumpkinSmasher]

Has alio worked on it?

You can send it back to me if you need to. I have thought of a few ideas for it recently.

[Doom_Dude]

Roger that DoomedAce and Doom_Goat.

Hope you find some inspiration for that map DoomedAce. ;)

PumpkinSmasher, Alio got some done but says he needs more time. :p

[iori]

I would consider it, but I rather dont like most of the new textures :/

[DoomedAce]

When you guys are done with it, could you send it to me?

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah once Alio is done. I think he's doing code now or something.

[Lutrov71]

I shall make some rooms and stuff for it! But I probably won't be using much of the new textures.

[DoomedAce]

Yeah once Alio is done. I think he's doing code now or something.

You mean he's building part of the map in code? As in, with 0's and 1's? :p

[Aliotroph?]

Nah, just really annoying C++ code for something else. :p

Did some mappage today. I'm trying to figure a way to make this easy to extend without resorting to a bunch of long corridors. The part that Pumpkin built wasn't easy on the extending part. :p

[PumpkinSmasher]

WEll you could have added on to the other side of Doom_dude's part. There was a path on the side just waiting for a door.

[Doom_Dude]

Why is it hard? Cut a hole and go..... through the wall anywheres. :p

[DoomedAce]

You can't just drill a hole into someone else's linedef. It's intellectual property, y'know ;)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Yea but the last room that opens up has a couple empty walls where a door could go

[Doom_Dude]

Thats what I was thinking.

Also anybody who hates the new textures. Nobody said you have to use them. Moo.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I like the new textures. Its nice to have something to use other than the old standard Doom textures.

[Aliotroph?]

I built off DD's hallway. I have two layouts I've been fiddling with. One of them has a lot of neatness to it but starts to become long corridors; the other one is more compact but is tricky to get flowing right. I think I'm just going to use the compact one.

[Lutrov71]

So when do I get the map?

[Doom_Dude]

So when do I get the map?

Well DoomedAce said he wanted it after Alio. So after DoomedAce then it's you. :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

I believe Mystic asked for it before DoomedAce.

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah he did say something. Haven't seen him around lately. If he's not available next then DoomedAce is next.

[Lutrov71]

Well DoomedAce said he wanted it after Alio. So after DoomedAce then it's you. :)
Hmmn, I'm going to have to try and overdetail my section like DoomedAce probably will. *bang*

[DoomedAce]

Heh, I was just thinking about not overdoing it but rather stick to the level of detail that the others used.

[Lutrov71]

Excellent. :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Its got a good level of detail, but not overly detailed

[Lutrov71]

Excellent. :)

[Doom_Dude]

Well you'll just have to wait.

*starts growing moss* :p

[PumpkinSmasher]

*steals DD's moss*

[Aliotroph?]

Stupid project is keeping me from finishing this until thursday evening/friday. :p

Damnit, why does code have to CONFLICT with mapping?!?!? They should be complementary processes!

[Doom_Dude]

Because coding is the anti-mapping just like matter and antimatter. :p

[Exl]

I dunno, ever heard of ACS and FraggleScript?

[DoomedAce]

Slap me if I'm wrong (and expect retaliation), but I thought scripting was different from coding? ;)

[Aliotroph?]

They're feeding you lies! The two are very similar -- especially if you code in a scripting language. :D

Only difference is real programming languages do more stuff, are more flexible, and usually add dozens of extra rules. Coding different things of course brings different challenges.

Essentially I'm just spending so many hours at school coding stuff I don't even have time in the day to come home and map. Since this great pile of code has to be done by Thursday afternoon I think I'll do some mapping then. :D

[PumpkinSmasher]

Good luck alio, but is it smart to waste valuable coding time, by coming online and talking to us?

[FATAL]

Only difference is real programming languages do more stuff, are more flexible, and usually add dozens of extra rules. Coding different things of course brings different challenges.

And to make things simple, every language has it's own rules and tricks.

[Aliotroph?]

Good luck alio, but is it smart to waste valuable coding time, by coming online and talking to us?

Yup, I just wander by in the 5 mins every time when I have nothing to do for any given reason. Like right now: James is hacking at some files I need to be in so I can't do anything with them (yeah CVS says it can merge them but we all know it will just break them like it always does...). :p

Oh yeah, GTK sux0rz!!!!!

[Doom_Dude]

When are you going to be able to work on the map again? :/

[DoomedAce]

I'm pulling back my offer to do part of this map. I'm having enough trouble trying to get myself to finish Map03

[PumpkinSmasher]

i really want the map back, i've got a some ideas for it.

[Aliotroph?]

Heh, now that I've screwed this up by having exams I've committed myself to sending this map back to DD when he comes online tomorrow. I might be up all night with my slow-mapping mind here. :D

[PumpkinSmasher]

good luck alio

[Nuxius]

So how's the map going? I might add few areas to it after I get done with my current map.

[Lutrov71]

*Waits for map.*

[DoomedAce]

No doubt about it. The construction process of this map stays true to the NDCP way of mapping. It's all about style.

[Nuxius]

No doubt about what? Who the heck are you talking to?

[DoomedAce]

I wasn't talking to anyone in particular. Just poking fun at the project.

[Doom_Dude]

*finger hovers over Slige button* :p

[Nuxius]

Well now that you edited it, it makes more sense now. :p

[Doom_Dude]

Ok sorry for the confusion (Im confused) but ummm who wanted the Conglom map next?

[Nuxius]

Mystic, Lutrov then PumpkinSmasher was the order. DoomedAce was in there, but he dropped out so he could work on his own NDCP map. As far as Mystic goes, I haven't seen him around in quite a while. So it might be best to just send it to Lutrov.

[DoomedAce]

BTW, where the hell did PS go? He hasn't been here for weeks (months?)

[Doom_Dude]

Lutrov it is. PM me your email Lutrov. :D

I dunno what happen to Mr PS. :/

[Xtife]

if you guys want, i can contribute to the map
i want to do soemthing in someway, i feel like iv been slackin the inteir time i was heading this

btw, its sparky :)

[Ninja_of_DooM]

What happened to your other account then?

[Xtife]

it wont let me in anymore

[DoomedAce]

You'd better PM Phoebus about that. It's not allowed to have more than one account.

[Xtife]

ya :p but i only have one working one atm
ill pm him and delete one

[iori]

I already have a map nearing completion, if needed (you guys already know about that).

[Doom_Dude]

I already have a map nearing completion, if needed (you guys already know about that). Yep and I have a feeling we will be needing that map. :D

[Ninja_of_DooM]

YOur account doesn't exist anyore Sparky. *confused*

[Xtife]

oh well :) it took care of its self then hehe

[PumpkinSmasher]

awww...how sweet. Yall missed me. But I'm back, and I would still like to have my turn at the conglom map whenever that is.

And Xtife=Sparky....can I still call you sparky or do i have to call you xtife now?

[Lutrov71]

I should have my section done tomorrow. Sorry for taking so long. :(

[Doom_Dude]

I should have my section done tomorrow. Sorry for taking so long. :( That wasn't long compared to Aliotroph? taking a millenium. ;)

[PumpkinSmasher]

I'm still ready for my turn...again

[Doom_Dude]

Oh hey, my BAD. I got the map back from Lutrov and ummm forgot to mention that.

Is Mr PS ready for map and where do I send again?

[FATAL]

ummm forgot to mention that.
Haha, that made me laugh. I could also make a nice trap room I've had in my mind for some time, but I'm afraid that my portion will lack the details the others have.

[Doom_Dude]

Haahaa.... :D

I'm adding a big hall jobby onto the Conglom map with windows that look onto the area Lutrov added. :p Will be done soon....

A trap room sounds interesting.

[Nuxius]

Go ahead and sign me up for the next slot.

Maybe messing with the Conglom map will help me think of some ideas for the other maps I'm currently working on.

[Doom_Dude]

Ok that's

PumpkinSmasher
Fatal
Nuxius

anybody else? :p

[General Greivous]

I'd volunteer to add on to it, but unfortunately I haven't done anything for NDCP :(

[FATAL]

Sure, you can remove the maybe from there.

Well it's more of a puzzle room than a trap room, but it includes both.

Also I'm curious to see what other people have done. :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

DD I sent you a PM with my e-mail, send the map there

[Doom_Dude]

Ok I will be done with my little addition today and I'll send it to you Mr PS.....

[PumpkinSmasher]

Sounds good DD

[Doom_Dude]

Ok it's sent to you just now PumpkinSmasher. :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Sorry, I haven't been at the forums often enough to see you pestering me. I started to work on the conglom map, but then my comp got fried, and i lost the work i did. And its been hard to get myself motivated again since then. You can go ahead and give it to someone else if you'd like. I may sign back up for it later.

[Doom_Dude]

Sorry, I haven't been at the forums often enough to see you pestering me. I started to work on the conglom map, but then my comp got fried, and i lost the work i did. And its been hard to get myself motivated again since then. You can go ahead and give it to someone else if you'd like. I may sign back up for it later. Ooh ok. Sorry to hear your comp got fried. :/ That sucks.

[Aliotroph?]

Any of these guys care about this thing anymore?

[FATAL]

I think I was in queue. There were two persons ahead of me, though. Can't remember who.

[PumpkinSmasher]

i'm sure we could read through the thread and find out.

[Nuxius]

I'm sure you could scroll the page up to post number 87 (http://forums.newdoom.com/showpost.php?p=439458&postcount=87) and find out as well. ;)

Fatal's next, then me, then... oh wait, that's it. :p

[Doom_Dude]

I just fixed a couple things in the map. Fatal you can have it next if you have time. Just adding a room at least will be a help.

[Xtife]

if you guys have time, id like to contribute something to this map
i wasent able to contribute to the ndcp at the beginning, but i have enough mapping knowledge to be able to now :) though i cant say it will be as good as all of yours hehe

[FATAL]

I just fixed a couple things in the map. Fatal you can have it next if you have time. Just adding a room at least will be a help.
Sure, I have plenty of time on weekends. I think you know my email. You can send it there.

[Doom_Dude]

Ok Fatal it's sent to your gmail account. ;)

if you guys have time, id like to contribute something to this map
i wasent able to contribute to the ndcp at the beginning, but i have enough mapping knowledge to be able to now :) though i cant say it will be as good as all of yours hehe We'll see. Fatal has it for now and then Nuxius wants it...

[FATAL]

I'll try to stick something togheter with some bubble gum next weekend. Also one question. While I think I'm somewhat good at creating lighting effects, may I edit the already existing rooms a bit?

[Doom_Dude]

Id say yes as long as it has soemthing to do with the area your adding.

[FATAL]

Ok, I'll keep my filthy mits out of the other rooms then.

[Doom_Dude]

Maybe when the thing is done and we have time and you want to, you can go over the lighting. ;)

[FATAL]

This room I'm creating is becoming much better than what I had thought first. It's main point is a puzzle, that's very nice I must admit.

[Doom_Dude]

That sounds most interesting.

[FATAL]

I got my part done. I sent it to your email.

The area turned out to be even better than what I thought last time. Hideous demons and a puzzle that'll make you tear your hair out. :)
I even included difficulty levels and a room with "edit here" sign to help Nuxius find a good spot to start on.

[Doom_Dude]

Thanks Fatal. Gonna check that out in a few...

I dunno where Nuxius is. I haven't heard back from him since I sent a PM the other day. heh.

[edit] Nice job Fatal. I like that puzzle! :D

Sooo ummmm who wants it next? I don't know if Nuxius is around or not. Xtife you can have it next if you speak up. Just don't take more than a week, please as time is something we don't have a lot of (less than 4 weeks to go).. That goes for anybody else who decides to work on it as well. ;)

[EDIT] THis morning I heard from Nuxius. He now has the Conglom map.

[Nuxius]

Heh, I didn't even use your "edit here" thinger, as I already had a few ideas for the more techy type stuff that Doom_Dude posted pictures of somewhere in this thread. I probably could have thought of something, but I don't want to linger on this any longer than I need to, and since I already had my idea lined out, and saw two areas off of DD's areas where it would fit in perfectly, I "went with it".

Thinking of it, if you want DD, I can send you the map with the spots highlighted that I will be using, and you can send it to whoever is next in line to build something off of Fatal's puzzle area. Just a thought.

Anyway, speaking of my area, today was the first day I actually got to really work on it (thought I would get a chance Thanksgiving day, but the relatives made that impossible :p). I have one part of my area pretty much done. Whenever I get up later today, I'll get to work on the other part of it. I want to have this done sometime this weekend.

[FATAL]

Weekends are great!

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds cool Nuxius. Don't worry about the area after Fatal's puzzle. If somebody doesn't make something for it, I can add something myself. ;)

[FATAL]

And if everything else fails, it could be filled with just a key.

[Doom_Dude]

Or the room closes off and all you get is a Cyberdemon. ;)

[FATAL]

1 metre away from the player. Sounds cool.

But I know one thing that could be even cooler... TWO cyber demons!

[Doom_Dude]

Two Cybs playing basketball with a Pain Elemental. :D

[PumpkinSmasher]

Two Cybs playing basketball with a Pain Elemental. :D
I just hope they don't stick their fingers in the holes in the back of the pain elemental

[Doom_Dude]

I just hope they don't stick their fingers in the holes in the back of the pain elemental Nope, your thinking about Caco bowling. *weird*

[PumpkinSmasher]

they both have holes. I just wonder if you hold a pain elemental's mouth closed, would the lost souls start popping out of the holes in its back?
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3294/pain1.jpg http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9592/caco.jpg

[ace]

they both have holes. I just wonder if you hold a pain elemental's mouth closed, would the lost souls start popping out of the holes in its back?

If that were the case then it would definitely be in for a painful (pun intended) case of incendiary flatulence. :D