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z-vap
March 13th, 2005, 12:05 PM
When and/or which did the "Jump" functionality make it into the functionality of the game? Similarly, when did MouseLook make it? Personally I don't think Mouselook EVER made it but I could be wrong. I'm more interested in the Jump function.

Thanks
EarthQuake
March 13th, 2005, 04:15 PM
Doom and Doom II never had a jump feature and neither did Heretic. Heretic, however, did have up and down look functions, although the angle was about 90 degrees. The same went for Hexen. Also, Hexen was the first to introduce jumping. Mouselook was not featured in any of these three engines.
Falci
March 13th, 2005, 06:37 PM
EarthQuake forgot to mention... The jump and mouse look were added in all source ports that exist today. That was done because the respective developers felt like doing it.
FATAL
March 14th, 2005, 06:57 AM
I think that build engine was the first one, which had games with mouselook.
z-vap
March 14th, 2005, 01:28 PM
Yeah, I know about the jump and mouselook abilities of todays ports. I love them. But I kind of figured that Jump wasn't in the first doom game because there were a few times that I could have finished a level much quicker *with* it. So I only used it for convenience, instead of finishing levels easier.

Then I couldn't remember if Jump had ever made it in any of the doom-like games.
Ben2k9
March 15th, 2005, 04:25 PM
it was in Strife too. But that was based on a modified HeXen engine so it would be.
EarthQuake
March 15th, 2005, 09:41 PM
it was in Strife too. But that was based on a modified HeXen engine so it would be.

Sorry, don't mean to go up against you there, but Strife is based off the Doom II engine, not Hexen. Hexen uses a totally different level format. Also, the naming convention in the main iwad suggests that it was a modified doom2.wad. There's even Doom zombie sounds still present in strife1.wad. One last piece of evidence I have, is that if Strife used Hexen as a foundation, then they would be required to acredit Raven software, which they did not to my knowledge.
Lord Kaizen
March 16th, 2005, 07:35 PM
You could look up and down in Heretic? Wow, I thought only Hexen had that. Thanks, I've been playing jHeretic with the mouse look option off, assuming that it was made to be played just like Doom.