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Big_al
March 2nd, 2005, 01:12 AM
All I can say is WTF????
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614
Nephil
March 2nd, 2005, 02:21 AM
Paranoia...
PumpkinSmasher
March 2nd, 2005, 03:34 AM
that is idiotic. Stupid Government
FATAL
March 2nd, 2005, 04:52 AM
What kind of grandparents would turn up their grandson to police!?
Falci
March 2nd, 2005, 05:20 AM
What kind of grandparents would turn up their grandson to police!?
The psychotic terroist type. Those grandfathers should be in jail, not the boy.
A normal pair of grandparents would have spoken with the boy first. Not sent him to jail.
Now he's gonna pay for writing horror stories... if things got to go like that, let's arrest the guy who wrote the Doom movie story. HE is making a terrorism act.
Ninja_of_DooM
March 2nd, 2005, 07:01 AM
Heh, only in America.:p
Pieter Enis
March 2nd, 2005, 07:49 AM
Man, sometimes those people in governments can be so stupid!
Oh well, hope he doesn't get sent to jail.
And I agree on the fact that those grandparents should be put in jail.
doomdiz
March 2nd, 2005, 08:39 AM
THATS RETARDED!!!!!! *chuck*
Americans might as well just give up communitcation all together....apparently nothing we say or write is legal.....we will just go back to banging on cowhide drums with sticks to convey messages...
just try not to bang anything that might stir up controversy..... *burn*
She-wolf
March 2nd, 2005, 08:51 AM
Yeah it is rather crazy.
For that matter then you'd may as well go and also jail the writers who have already written stories involving terrorists, film writers, directors...need I go on? I think the thing some people fail to realise is this; as sad as it is terrorism is a thing which is very real and since 2001 it's made people realise that. However while people do need to be aware of it, there is no need for this level of paranoia and suspicion at every turn. The time would be better spent going after people who are an actual threat than cases like this, and making a good job of it.
Aliotroph?
March 2nd, 2005, 10:11 AM
Ugh, stupid grandparents, stupid cops, and stupid government. Besides mass muder != terrorism. The point of terrorism is to cause fear, but killing a load of people (or zombies) is just killing. It's sad that the people in charge of dealing with laws are often the type who will do anything to have more of them.
Wicked Anime Kid
March 2nd, 2005, 10:26 AM
This clears the fact up that old folks shouldn't complain. They say: "The youth of these days...(negative)" whilst WE (the younger ones <60) should say: "The oldies of these days....*sigh*"
Anyway it's plain idiotic what the grandfolks did to their own grandson. They got him a 5000 dollar bond and a potential spot in the prison....
insane
DoomedAce
March 2nd, 2005, 10:26 AM
That's just sad. Pure bureaucracy, that's what it is.
Unconscious_Doomer
March 2nd, 2005, 11:32 AM
Insane.
Why the hell would you get arrested for doing that?
DoomedAce
March 2nd, 2005, 12:00 PM
Insane.
Why the hell would you get arrested for doing that?
Like I said, bureaucracy. Laws are taken too literally. Or there's a target set by bureaucrats for a police department in order to "gauge their performance", like, "write an x-number of fines" or "prevent an x-number of terrorist activities"
Aliotroph?
March 2nd, 2005, 06:45 PM
What I want to know is why would anyone turn their own family in before finding out???
Mystic
March 2nd, 2005, 10:36 PM
Maybe they turned him in because the stuff he wrote isnt quite what he is claiming it is now that he is caught, has anyone seen the actual text that is causing all the fuss or is everyone believing what the accused is saying in an attempt to wriggle out of it??
Aliotroph?
March 2nd, 2005, 10:40 PM
Who cares anyway? I don't think writing anything you don't distribute should be a crime.
Mystic
March 2nd, 2005, 10:45 PM
think about it, if you knew someone who is a bit unstable, like that columbine nutter for example, and noticed he had made some notes in his diary about his plans to murder his schoolmates, would you ignore it?? would you risk becoming his first victim by questioning him about it??
Wicked Anime Kid
March 2nd, 2005, 10:50 PM
I know I would, besides, we are all different from each-other so who says I'm going to be his first victim or victim. He might have only wrote it done because of anger....
You can't tell what's going on in his mind that's for sure so you have to be careful but turning the kid in. I was thinking of sending him to a psychiatrist or whatever, but not to court...
Mystic
March 2nd, 2005, 10:53 PM
well, dont you think his grandparents know the guy fairly well, they will know if he is a nutcase or a joker as he claims. I reckon the fact they turned him in shows that not only were they worried about the content of his notes but were also afraid to confront him about it which suggests he is a violent person
Majuub
March 3rd, 2005, 01:00 AM
there goes democrasy and freedom of speech out the window!!!
It is my understanding that americans as a general rule are taught to be paranoid and fearful and as such are more willing to "shoot 1st ask questions later".
I'm just happy I'm not american
{TTr}Uber_soldat
March 3rd, 2005, 04:42 PM
think about it, if you knew someone who is a bit unstable, like that columbine nutter for example, and noticed he had made some notes in his diary about his plans to murder his schoolmates, would you ignore it?? would you risk becoming his first victim by questioning him about it??
so what? is that kid going to start turning his mates into zombies?
Mystic
March 3rd, 2005, 05:44 PM
Im guessing you are a teenager so I will refrain from trying to explain what I already typed in simple easy to understand words and hope common sense eventually finds its way to you
DoomedAce
March 3rd, 2005, 06:04 PM
there goes democrasy and freedom of speech out the window!!!
It is my understanding that americans as a general rule are taught to be paranoid and fearful and as such are more willing to "shoot 1st ask questions later".
I'm just happy I'm not american
Freedom of speech is good. Everyone should be allowed to say, wright and think whatever he or she wants. But some opinions and statements can easily be misinterpreted. Especially in times like these when you have the threat of terrorism lurking around (whether that is just in people's heads or IRL).
Still, I find it rather strange that the guy's grandparents turned him in just like that. Unless he had indeed showed some uncommon/violent behaviour before, like Mystic suggested.
doomdiz
March 3rd, 2005, 08:44 PM
one time in H.S. i got a phonecall from the cops saying i was on some guy's "hit-list". Tho there was some debate as to what the list really meant. I didnt even really take the threat too seriously...
x0563511
March 4th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Yeah it is rather crazy.
For that matter then you'd may as well go and also jail the writers who have already written stories involving terrorists, film writers, directors...
Poor poor Tom Clancy. That would be a LOOOONG sentence.
Aliotroph?
March 4th, 2005, 12:28 AM
I actually got a death threat on the phone once. I told that dude to screw off and I was either going to call the cops or wait by my door with a golf club. He never showed his face. He had said something about my little brother beating up his brother.
Especially in times like these...
Funny how that works in any time. There's always a threat that needs to be squashed. Before terrorism we had communists. Things do get misinterpreted but it doesn't warrant arrests, jail terms, censorship, etc.
Mystic
March 4th, 2005, 11:36 AM
assuming there has been a misinterpretation, Im keeping an open mind on it until I see what all the fuss is about and have both sides of the story.
FATAL
March 4th, 2005, 11:45 AM
Media has a bad habit of telling only one side of the story. This is what happens then. We're pretty much clueless about what really happened
Pieter Enis
March 4th, 2005, 03:17 PM
Oh hell yeah!
Still think the parents should be locked up, just for no reason though, purely for laughs:)
Psycho Siggi
March 4th, 2005, 04:23 PM
Heh, only in America.:p
Indeed.
That is one of the most bizarre stories I've heard to date.
WinstonSmith6079
March 5th, 2005, 10:57 AM
Well I was gonna say that more and more all the time I hate the U-aSs. Once again another Freedom is becoming "obsolete", and in this case, once again it is that of Free-Speech. But OTOH given your arguments Mystic, the only source of all info given is just the fukin' media, which is of course soooo american.
Nah, I say to that: I'm quite way tired of the odious and assanine [sic?] U-aSs of A.hole, but I hate the media, everybody's favorite source of badly reprocessed bullsht.
That's just the stupid and irresponible media dumping it's own fears upon us. If anyone needs to worry about the loss of free-speech, it's them.
MasterOfPuppets
March 5th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Heh, only in America.:pyup.
ok, asuming the kids story is true, that it was just a fictional story, then this is fucking censorship - and that burns me up!
*moment to calm himself* o well, i'm moving to Canada in a few years.
x0563511
March 5th, 2005, 01:52 PM
I'm quite way tired of the odious and assanine [sic?] U-aSs of A.hole
Hell, I have always lived here and _I'm_ sick of it! But having visited five other countries (only one of them was on this continent) I have a broader perspective then many of the idiots here.
President Bush doesn't rule this country, ignorence does. He's just one of it's many faces.
WinstonSmith6079
March 5th, 2005, 02:32 PM
Hell, I have always lived here and _I'm_ sick of it! But having visited five other countries (only one of them was on this continent) I have a broader perspective then many of the idiots here.
President Bush doesn't rule this country, ignorence does. He's just one of it's many faces.
Heh! No shit! Heh heh!
I've lived here all of of my life as well and I never have been even once beyond its borders. It seems like I shouldn't feel nearly as old I do and have at my actual age. But I've been listening to the grapevine and listening good for a long time and I'm leaving this place too, most likely for Euro. I just hope that it won't be too many years from now when I can actually do it.
Did you know for example that European women are more naturally beautiful, level-minded, easy-going, affectionate and sexual than the oooo so typical american woman? I've learned this much a little more since I've lived here in N.Y.C. I wanna say that I wanna learn more, but I think I may learn plenty more when I am actually there.
Pieter Enis
March 5th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Europe owns USA's ass, BIGTIME! *kewl*
Never been in the US though ... Canada I have ... beautiful place :p
Mystic
March 5th, 2005, 11:12 PM
come on, dont go dissing a whole country just because a determined minority elected a nasty government. In my own experience there are at least as many good folk in america as there are bad ones. Europe isnt all sugar and spice either, we have nazis openly standing for election and increasing their votes year by year, we have lying assholes like Blair in charge (here in the UK anyway) In scotland where I live there is a fued been going on between catholic and protestant bigots, they have been killing each other for hundreds of years to prove they are more 'christian' than the other guy. A lot of Europe is extremely expensive to live in especially the UK, first time house buyers need something like 160,000 pounds in the bank, thats more than 300,000 usa dollars for a cheap crappy, ordinary little house with 2 bedrooms and one bathroom.
Pieter Enis
March 6th, 2005, 02:24 AM
But Mystic ... The women!
Aliotroph?
March 6th, 2005, 04:49 AM
Bah! Too many tradition-bound women there. I want a hacker cute damnit! :p
Big_al
March 8th, 2005, 04:33 AM
Is he in jail now?
http://go.theregister.com/feed/2005/03/08/high_school_zombie_threat/
She-wolf
March 8th, 2005, 05:51 AM
Lol @ article. Heh, seriously Mystic is quite right about the UK. It isn't great either and hopefully if I find that Australia or New Zealand is more to my liking after I've been there for a while on my year out when I graduate I hope to kiss this country goodbye. I already tried to buy a flat of my own in second year which basically flopped because of the amount of money it was going to cost me. I did see a place I loved but there was some rather major work needed on it which came up in the survey and that ended that. A perfectly nice flat just down from where I am was also one I looked at, but people had put in crazy offers well above what was being asked and what I could afford. It is really bad.
That and I need nicer weather, I'm glad today the sun is shining as by the end of winter I'm not feeling so great and when the good weather returns I feel much better, more motivated to do things. *cool*
FATAL
March 8th, 2005, 06:09 AM
Yeah, the article has been flavoured with sarcasm nicely.
Big_al
March 8th, 2005, 06:12 AM
first time house buyers need something like 160,000 pounds in the bank, thats more than 300,000 usa dollars for a cheap crappy, ordinary little house with 2 bedrooms and one bathroom.
Mmmmm I certainly didn't need that in the bank to get my 3 bedroom house.
In fact it didn't even cost £160,000 :p
She-wolf
March 8th, 2005, 06:46 AM
I guess it depends, certainly when I was trying to buy a flat I was getting a mortgage, I'd be one rich student if I had the kind of money I was needing! That and I guess it depends on the town, city or wherever and it's popularity. In my case, Dundee, quite close to the uni and city centre, people who work here want places, students and their parents may be buying places and the situation with house prices didn't help with me trying to find a decent place that wasn't in a rough part of Dundee or way beyond a reasonable walking distance, reasonable for me being about 30 minutes walking.
Big_al
March 8th, 2005, 07:09 AM
True but most mortgage lenders only want 10% or less of a deposit.
WinstonSmith6079
March 9th, 2005, 03:30 AM
come on, dont go dissing a whole country just because a determined minority elected a nasty government. In my own experience there are at least as many good folk in america as there are bad ones.
Well sure there's some good people here (though I'm not sure that there are as many of them as the bad ones). The trouble is, though, that these good people are not the one's running things here. Of the people running things now, very, very few seem good.
Europe isnt all sugar and spice either
Well no it isn't, simply because there is no such thing as all sugar-and-spice. From where I'm standing, though, Europe looks great (although some countries look better than others), but that doesn't mean that it's Utopia. I think I may like Europe's problems better than those of the US, if for no other reason than that the (potential) benefits are greater there.
And this stuff is not really that much about (Pres.) Bush. These things have been coming to this for quite some time now, well before Dubya was in the picture. Even if Bush were not the President, the country would still have about the same problems, that Europe doesn't. I hope to god that Europe never gets too "americanized" when I'm around....
Well I'll see and hear and hope I guess. I intend to leave this country, and I want to go to Euro.
WinstonSmith6079
March 9th, 2005, 03:54 AM
http://go.theregister.com/feed/2005/03/08/high_school_zombie_threat/
hehhehe! That article rocked! ROFL! *thumbs* I only wish I could write like that! Hehehehe!
As far as Euro, I would probably, as it stands now, would live in, like, Holland or East Germany. I've thought about the UK and it seems a wonderful place, but living there would be even MORE expensive than here in NYC, and this place is hardly cheap! For example I've heard that one pack of cigarettes there costs about £7 which I think is more than $10.50! I would love to visit there though! I bet there's lots of things there to do and lots of kewl people to meet.
In fact I couldn't not visit there. One good thing about living in Euro is that if something you want or need is missing where you are, there's the country "next door" that will probably have it.
FATAL
March 9th, 2005, 05:28 AM
For example I've heard that one pack of cigarettes there costs about £7 which I think is more than $10.50
And I've heard that every time you want to smoke those expensive cigs you'll have to pay a toll.
Ninja_of_DooM
March 9th, 2005, 06:49 AM
But who wants to smoke anwyays? Life in the UK sucks fullstop. Too expensive. And the people running it, well Mystic already filled us in on that one.;) Why do you think I want in the Navy so bad?:p
FATAL
March 9th, 2005, 08:56 AM
"see the world, they said"
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