Hows It Goin?

[Sparky]

Hey Guys :) just wanted to say that iv been watching the forum here since i left
glad to see that this is still going good for the most part *giddy*

just wanted to know how stuff was goin :p...

[FATAL]

Bloody well. I just got on holidays, and I've been doing some lightning already. And I made a promise to finish it this month.

[Doom_Dude]

Its going great. Just have 7 maps to go...

I can't seem to find -Ki- tho. Must dig around for email....

[DoomedAce]

Though my study's becoming an ever growing burden, I luckily manage to find some time now and then to map.

I'd guess I'm at about 75-80%, excluding things. I've got the general lay-out done now. An underground stream that acts as a main corridor, flowing around in a circle, with side passages that contain weapons, ammo, keys and stuff (like in Underhalls). Then there's a middle area that contains some pretty important switches/teleporters and becomes more and more accessible as you progress through the level and gather keys.

http://img148.exs.cx/img148/7174/map03c9fa.jpg

[Lutrov71]

That looks great, and very big.

[Doom_Dude]

That looks cool DoomedAce. :D

[Aliotroph?]

Sweet. This wad is going to be fun. :D

[Doom_Dude]

All we need is seven maps to be completed. Did I say that already?

[iori]

*scrolls up*
Yes. Yes you did.

On a side note, I am almost positive that Ki wont be coming back.

[Sparky]

sad :( i really liked her map

[FATAL]

On a side note, I am almost positive that Ki wont be coming back.

Same here, just about WAK this time.

[DoomedAce]

And what about X? Is he still working on his map?

[Doom_Dude]

*scrolls up*
Yes. Yes you did.

On a side note, I am almost positive that Ki wont be coming back.

What happened to her? CG said somebody told her that her map was replaced but that was never the case. :/

X-Doom hurt his hand and I haven't heard back from him about his map.

[iori]

Bah. I dont know who would've told her that, there is a list of 2005 map names and authors...

[PumpkinSmasher]

Well I heard all of my maps along with everyone else's were being scrapped and replaced with maps by Doom_Dude.

[DoomedAce]

Might as well call it "NDCP-core" then.

[Doom_Dude]

Bah. I dont know who would've told her that, there is a list of 2005 map names and authors...

Yeah I know, :/ Crap my email to her bounced back and the PM's I've sent to her were never answered. Why can't she just visit the forums here like she used to and let us know what her intentions are. Did somebody piss her off or something? Maybe she doesn't want to finish her map.... beats me. Whatever the case is I ain't a mind reader. :(

[iori]

I suppose we can leave her map slot to the very end and -hope- that she comes back to finish it?

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah thats all we can do for now unless -Ki- shows up. I hope she does.

[DoomedAce]

It would be shame if she doesn't. Her map was almost complete :/

[Doom_Dude]

Well I heard all of my maps along with everyone else's were being scrapped and replaced with maps by Doom_Dude. Very funny :p

[PumpkinSmasher]

You mean I heard wrong?

O well...Maybe we can make a community map to replace Ki's spot. Some one starts a map and when they get bored with it they could just pass it along to someone else. No one seems to want to do a full map for this project and start now, so let everyone just do part of a map.

[Mystic]

or, as suggested in a older thread, just throw in a wad by one of us thats been laying around the hd somewhere hoping to be released someday

[Nuxius]

I hope -Ki- hasn't left. Her map was looking pretty interesting to me as well.

Anyway, for the people that don't show up to complete their maps, both PumpkinSmasher's and Mystic's ideas sound good to me. Either which way you guys want to go.

[FATAL]

Well, about the promise to finish my map during this month...
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HECK IT WILL BE DONE! I've finished the lightning, and now it only lacks some texture aligment, which is nearly done, and thing placement, which will take one hour at maximum. I'll start playtesting probably a day after tomorrow, and when I'm satisfied, you can try it too.

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds good to me Fatal. :)

[DoomedAce]

Good to hear someone's keeping his promise. I think I'm going to have to break mine, that is, to finish Map03 before the end of this month.

[Doom_Dude]

Well this month is toast. ;) I'm sure you'll be done soon.

[FATAL]

Well, I won't start playtesting tomorrow, because I have exams on thursday. Not that many of you are intrested or anything.

[PumpkinSmasher]

You are right..we aren't interested. But hopefully you'll get your map done soon.

[Mystic]

Im interested. What subjects are you sitting??

[FATAL]

Well, it's a geography test. We'll have to know all the countries and capital cities of both south and north america. To make things a bit harder, we'll have to know major mountains, rivers, capes, and stuff like that.

Oh, and pumpkin, it IS finished. I'm just not going to release crap like the big companies do.

[DoomedAce]

Oh, and pumpkin, it IS finished. I'm just not going to release crap like the big companies do.

Actually, you're doing exactly what the major companies are doing. Postponing release dates *smirk*

[Exl]

My.... God.... This is still going.... *uhh*

[Mystic]

I certainly hope so, ive only played a couple of the other maps so as not to spoil it when I get the finished article.

[PumpkinSmasher]

Well I've made two maps for this project quicker than some people have made one...quite sad actually.

[Mystic]

lol me too and Im not a fast mapper usually. I guess we have less busy lives than most. hey Pump kin, are you from BC in canada ?

[Aliotroph?]

You cheated and used maps you had lying around. :p

[Mystic]

nah uh, my map02 is brand new. Map15 was admittedly made out of a rather large legacy map I was working on but it took me so long to rip out all the legacy stuff, re-do the architecture to suit the lack of 3d floors, change the textures to the ones in ndcp, etc that I probably would have been faster doing it from scratch.

[PumpkinSmasher]

Both my maps were brand new, but I did have a lot of free time.

Mystic: No I'm not from Canada, I live in the US.

[FATAL]

Actually, you're doing exactly what the major companies are doing. Postponing release dates *smirk*
Ha, I never said "you can get it 1st of march" :p

[DoomedAce]

You did give a hint that that would be the case, though ;)

[FATAL]

...and when I'm satisfied, you can try it too.
har har har

[Doom_Dude]

Paul Corfiatis just emailed and asked for map06 to be removed from the project. I had already asked him to wait awhile and that was several months ago.

[DoomedAce]

Uh oh... Crap, let's hope no other authors start doing that... :(
At least I can guarantee that I won't pull any of my maps. It would make me feel like some kind of traitor if I ever did that.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I am getting tired of waiting, but I'm too lazy to type a message saying that I want to pull my maps, and even if i did type such a message, I'd be too lazy to release them myself. So I'll let them stay put. Even if they do become the last maps released that I make.

[Doom_Dude]

Well if I ever sent somebody a map for a project id leave it go until it either got released or the project died.

Looney says he wants to do map06 now that Paul took his out. So we do have a replacement mapper.

[DoomedAce]

Looney the Lifesaver :p

[Mystic]

why do they pull their maps??? seems a wee bit like a plot to sabotage the project, is that corfiatis guy known for making port specific maps for a certain bunch of zealots I wont mention but who everyone knows cant stand newdoom??? Maybe Im paranoid and its just impatience to see their work released to the public.

No matter, looney will most likely make a better map anyway

[Doom_Dude]

why do they pull their maps??? seems a wee bit like a plot to sabotage the project, is that corfiatis guy known for making port specific maps for a certain bunch of zealots I wont mention but who everyone knows cant stand newdoom??? Maybe Im paranoid and its just impatience to see their work released to the public.

No matter, looney will most likely make a better map anyway

Nah I don't think its like that. Your just paranoidal. :p

[Aliotroph?]

I was working on something that could have filled one of the holes but I'm too lazy and probably don't have time to work on it anyway. Whatever I make next I think I want it to be for Legacy. :)

[Mystic]

I know what you mean, its hard to resist adding legacy features to a wad once you get used to them. lets all make some smucking fart legacy maps and put legacy back where it belongs in the doom community, at the top of the tree.

*hopes nobody asks him where that tree is*

[FATAL]

Where's that tree?

[Aliotroph?]

I have a mind to see if I can do something with those bots in Legacy. They make a nasty enemy. :D

[PumpkinSmasher]

I had an idea once to make a Legacy arena wad, and get otehrs to help make maps. Kind of like the Jdoom arena wad thats being made, but not enough people were interested.

[Doom_Dude]

Legacy is cool to map for. The 3d floors alone make for some interesting areas and I like doing cross corridors that pass over and under one anouther and crazy secret places beneath parts of walkways n stuff.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, 3D floors are great. All kinds of neat things you can do. :D

[DoomedAce]

I've got a request to make: I'm thinking of maybe switching this map with a later one, if that's possible. The reason why is that I'm planning to crank up the difficulty on this one a bit. A slot in the 10-20's would be perfect.

And, since I can't help myself from being a terrible show-off, here's some screens of the "blue-key-puzzle" I made today. Another puzzle involving floodgates and rising/lowering water.

http://img35.exs.cx/img35/5789/doom00028fu.th.png (http://img35.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img35&image=doom00028fu.png)
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/6921/doom00038ta.th.png (http://img35.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img35&image=doom00038ta.png) http://img35.exs.cx/img35/4748/doom00042jc.th.png (http://img35.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img35&image=doom00042jc.png)
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/540/doom00052pi.th.png (http://img35.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img35&image=doom00052pi.png) http://img35.exs.cx/img35/8179/doom00065up.th.png (http://img35.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img35&image=doom00065up.png)

[Agent Spork]

I would be willing to trade my map spot with you, if you want. The map looks really great, by the way. :)

[iori]

The map does look really good.
Although I cant help noticing that the new textures kinda take away from the overall coolness factor, to be completely honest :>

[Mystic]

I had an idea once to make a Legacy arena wad, and get otehrs to help make maps. Kind of like the Jdoom arena wad thats being made, but not enough people were interested.

If you mean a deathmatch megawad Im interested, Ive been toying with the idea myself, I almost have enough legacy DM maps already (all my own) but they arent all of a high standard so thats been on hold for years.

Ive been slowly but surely developing a 'mystic' megawad which has updated shiny new versions of most of my old maps, all enlarged to make them single player but all with exit areas that double as deathmatch arenas with the rest of the map not available in deathmatch only games, a sort of combination single play/deathmatch megawad.

[PumpkinSmasher]

yea my idea was a deathmatch arena, but at the time i posted it, no one seemed interested, but if you'd be interested in it too, we could try to start the project.

[DoomedAce]

The map does look really good.
Although I cant help noticing that the new textures kinda take away from the overall coolness factor, to be completely honest :>

Do you mean the grey tiles flat or the white/grey brick wall texture?

[FATAL]

Doomedace, I think that you didn't understand quite what Iori meant. He meant that the lightning in my map is a lot better than in your map, didn't you?

[Mystic]

Im LMFAO @ the 'my lighting is better than yours' thing running through this thread. You guys are just kidding around right???

[Aliotroph?]

Sounds even funnier because he wrote "lightning" instead of "lighting." :D

[iori]

Do you mean the grey tiles flat or the white/grey brick wall texture?
Both :p
Thats just my opinion however, not to be taken to heart. I personally am not a huge fan of the 'duke3d-ish' textures in doom.

[FATAL]

Im LMFAO @ the 'my lighting is better than yours' thing running through this thread. You guys are just kidding around right???
Basically, yes. I think I said it somewhere. Oh and Aliotroph, I rarely make any typos, but I must admit that I wasn't quite sure how to spell lighting. Heh heh, Fatal's believe it or not.

[Aliotroph?]

I know you never make typos. That's the only one I noticed. :)

[FATAL]

I know you never make typos. That's the only one I noticed. :)
Boy if my English teacher would see me now. For some odd reason, I always get somewhat low grades from english. Last time I got 8 if I remember correctly. I would give a grade 11 to me if it were possible. *bliss*

[DoomedAce]

Both :p
Thats just my opinion however, not to be taken to heart. I personally am not a huge fan of the 'duke3d-ish' textures in doom.

You know that I'll end up replacing them now, don't you? ;) I'm very susceptible when it comes to mapping.

[FATAL]

I wonder what would happen if I'd say that your map is the worse one I've ever played.

Oops, I said that... *bug*


Heh heh? *what*

[DoomedAce]

Oops, I also forgot to mention that I'm only susceptible for criticism concerning the textures I use. Not the construction of the map.

Besides, "a cynic is a man who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing", so I won't accept criticism from you in the first place *bliss*

Heh heh!

[FATAL]

Now that was a covardly attack under the belt. *guilty*

[saducimus]

Doom_Dude, the things I most look forward to playing this year are "Boiling Point: Road 2 Hell", ROE, & Vilecore2. wait is Vilecore2 this year? Take your time, do it right, keep up tha good work.

[Doom_Dude]

Thanks saducimus. I'm trying for a release this year on Vilecore 2. :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Don't keep your hopes up, he once said "Vilecore 2 should be done no later than July 2003."

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I really dunno when it'll get done. I will say it's getting there. :p

[Aliotroph?]

Every time I talk about it he thinks of a new thing to add to some map or another. By the time he's done he'll have enough beta maps that look so different he'll be able to release "Vilecore 2: Deleted Scenes." :D

[Doom_Dude]

What was wrong with the textures? :/