Latest NDCP Map Names (2005)

[Doom_Dude]

Okay It's 2005 already and we need to suss out if everything is correct with this list?

By the way the red = finished. If anybody has different info about this list then please post it here.

Map01: Desecrated Paths // Doom_Dude
Map02: Wet Works // Mystic
Map03: Doomsday Machine // Dittohead
Map04: Shotfun // Frades
Map05: Disdainful // Exl
Map06: Bitter Loathing // iori
Map07: Identity Check // Fatal
Map08: Xenturion // Exl
Map09: Baleful Confines // Nuxius
Map10: Processing Station 10-29:71 // Aliotroph?
Map11: The Ignorant // iori
Map12: Infested // Espi
Map13: Apocalypse Lab // DarkWolf
Map14: Jail Break // Ninja_of_Doom
Map15: City Of Lost Souls // Mystic
Map16: Upon Necropolis // PumpkinSmasher
Map17: Assimilation // iori
Map18: Daemon Campus // Exl
Map19: Maintenance Area //DaniMetal
Map20: Sepulchre // DooMAD
Map21: 13th Cross // PumpkinSmasher
Map22: Caverns of Despair // DooM_GoaT
Map23: Elemental // Grunt
Map24: La Casa del Diablo // ReX
Map25: Bitter Harvest // BlackFyre [90%]
Map26: Silenced Progression // Agent Spork
Map27: No Brakes // Lutrov71 & Cyber-Menace
Map28: Hotash Slay // Stphrz
Map29: Strayed From Sanity // DoomedAce
Map30: Mortis Inifinitum // BlackFyre
Map31: Conglomeration Complex // Various Authors
Map32: In the Castle of the Wolf // ReX

By the way, anybody who's not finished thier map, id like a rough percentage done if you can. Would help to get a better idea of where we all stand.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I'm about to PM you with my maps, they've been listed as finished, but I've done a few tweaks/bug fixes to them. There is almost no chance of me changing them again as I've been devoting most of my mapping time to Zephyr recently. So check your PM's. And those are the correct map names for my two maps. No huge changes to the maps, just some detailing to map21, and fixed some missing textures, and a mistagged switch in map16.

[Lutrov71]

Torn will most likely not do map03. He hasn't been around for a long time.

[Doom_Dude]

Roger that on Torn. Also Agent Spork has not responded to my hails in over a month.

Thanks PumpkinSmasher. Glad you got your final tweaks done. :D

Only 10 maps to finish the NDCP.

[FATAL]

As you asked for precentage, I'd say 85 or even 90% done. And I've gotten through the most annoying part, adding textures that is.

[Doom_Dude]

As you asked for precentage, I'd say 85 or even 90% done. And I've gotten through the most annoying part, adding textures that is.

Sounds great Fatal. :D

[iori]

I'd like to change map17's name to 'Assimilation', (I R TEH BORG OLO) as it fits it better now.

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/ndcp/ndcp17/upshot1.png

All i have left to do is finish that upper right area and somehow give the player a red key.

[DoomedAce]

I thought you already had my map? Oh well, here 'tis again: http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/sfs.zip

[cyber-menace]

Well at least the project is moving, hopefully it doesn't wind up dead like so many others.

[Doom_Dude]

I thought you already had my map? Oh well, here 'tis again: http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/sfs.zip Yeah I do have that already. Guess I forgot to make it red in this thread.

That looks cool iori... name is changed now. :)

That means 9 maps to go. :D

[Aliotroph?]

Currently pestering Mystic for a name.

Hey, WTF ever happened to Stphrz? He was like the first guy done his map.

[Doom_Dude]

I dunno what happened to Stphrz. He sent me an email once saying he couldn't get on Newdoom and I replied to him and never heard back. That was months ago.... *smirk*

[DoomedAce]

A shame, really. From the looks of his NDCP map, that guy was good.

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I think he got busy with real life or something.
He has a couple nice maps released... Pink Munchers and Pesky Imps (ftp://phoebus@server1.thefourwinds.net/newdoom/wads/single/pmapi.zip) and Fiffy Remix (http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=11035) and Shock Em Down (http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=11203)

[DooMAD]

If the corrected newdoom sky texture has been confirmed for Maps 21-32, then DooMGoaT and I would like to swap map slots, so that he has map22 and the newdoom sky. I'll have the map20 slot as the sky doesn't really make much of a difference to my map.

[Doom_Dude]

Im not up on this sky thing but if you guys want to swap then no problemo.

[Aliotroph?]

So what maps have what skies anyway?

[Doom_Dude]

Eight maps to go. Aliotroph? sent me Mystics map15.

[PumpkinSmasher]

Woot! Hope this will be done in the next couple months.

[DoomedAce]

Working on Map03 now. Already a few rooms done. Mapping is going faster than I planned :D

[Doom_Dude]

Working on Map03 now. Already a few rooms done. Mapping is going faster than I planned :D Excellent. :D

[DooMAD]

So what maps have what skies anyway?

There was a thread about it, but it went quiet. So far, I don't think anything has been confirmed. Someone suggested a we have a vote on it which sounds like a good idea to me.
These are the current proposals: (edited to include iori's new sky, shown in red)


Maps 01-11 :
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky1.png

Maps 12-20 :
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/ndcp/sky1.png

Maps 21-32 :
http://www.zen32541.zen.co.uk/Rsky1.bmp

[DoomedAce]

Hmm.. Sky 1 does look a bit "artificial" compared with the others.

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I don't like that first one much, but the other 2 are cool.

[iori]

Well i tried my hand at emulating that Starry space theme with a doom-like feel...

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky1.png

A full 1024 wrap around sky can be seen here:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky1024.png

[PumpkinSmasher]

I like that sky iori

[Doom_Dude]

That looks cool iori. It would go best with some spacey-tech maps methinks.

[ReX]

Well i tried my hand at emulating that Starry space theme with a doom-like feel...
Sh*t, iori, that sky is fantastic! We should definitely try to use it.

I kind of liked DooMaD's SKY1, although I agree that it looks like a computer-generated landscape.

[DooMAD]

Heh, I like iori's sky better too, which makes it unanimous so far. :)

[iori]

Thanks guys, Rex, I dont think it would work well for our maps though... I merely presented it as an option. I'll play with photoshop today and see if I can come up with some more...

[Doom_Dude]

Thanks guys, Rex, I dont think it would work well for our maps though... I merely presented it as an option. I'll play with photoshop today and see if I can come up with some more...

Yes please give us more choices. :D

[iori]

Option #2

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky2.png

Comments? Too much like Sky2?

Here is one like it without mountains.

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky2a.png


Remember that all these do fit the doom palette, with not too much dithering either ;)

[Doom_Dude]

Oooh I likes that sky a lot (with or without mountains). That would look nice with map01. ;)

[PumpkinSmasher]

I like Option #2 with the mountains. I think it fits really well. But I don't have a map between 1-11, so it really wouldn't do anything for my maps.

[DoomedAce]

I vote option #2

[ReX]

......Rex, I dont think it would work well for our maps though... I merely presented it as an option.
iori, I wonder why you think your moonlit mountains landcape won't work for our maps. Anyway, I like your two new skies too.

[iori]

It just seems far too specific for a bunch of randomly themed maps is all, imo. But thats just my opinon, you guys will decide which sky it is..

*runs off to make more*

[iori]

Option #3 (the doublepost seems appropriate...)

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky3.png

[Doom_Dude]

Option #3 (the doublepost seems appropriate...)

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky3.png

Wow thats damned nice! *kewl*

[iori]

Thanks! No more for today, I'm skied out.

[PumpkinSmasher]

Wow iori, you are really good at making those skys.

[Nuxius]

Those skies are awesome, iori!

I think the second one, without the mountains, is my favorite.

I'm going to go see what they look like on my map in a sec. :D

[Doom_Dude]

Thanks! No more for today, I'm skied out. That would look nice in V2.

*sneaks into iori's sky making facility* ;)

[iori]

Doom_Dude - PM me if you're interested ;)

I think option #2 w/o mountains looks the best for the ndcp first sky as well, nuxius.

[Doom_Dude]

I think I drove iori nuts with an orange sky request. :p

[iori]

Hey sorry, I'm still trying but have been busy lately. I think I might try the brown though.. the orange isnt working for me (although frades made a nice one in the Legacy Mod's and Maps forum...).

[Doom_Dude]

Hehe no problem. ;) Yeah, screw the orange idea.

[Aliotroph?]

DooM already has an orange sky. :p

[DoomedAce]

*on topic*

I'd like to call my map "Abandoned Sewers"

I'm a bit busy studying right now, so that leaves little time to map. Though, if all goes smoothly I think I'll be able to finish by the end of this month.

[FATAL]

*on topic*

I'd like to call my map "Abandoned Sewers"

I'm a bit busy studying right now, so that leaves little time to map. Though, if all goes smoothly I think I'll be able to finish by the end of this month.
Bloody hell, it's your second map, and I'm still in the same stage as 2 months ago. Now, I've got some rush going on too, but I'll get it done this month, this is a promise.

[DoomedAce]

Heh. Suppose I can be fairly quick at throwing lines and sector together once I have the general layout worked out in my grey mass ;)

[Lutrov71]

Cyber-Menace and I are going to be releasing No Brakes on its own. That map has been from CC2, to DRCW, to be released on its own, and to NDCP. You can keep it as map27 on this, but if you don't want to keep it on the project that's fine.
Sorry if we've caused any inconvenience.

[DoomedAce]

For a moment there I was afraid you were going to pull it out.

[Doom_Dude]

Oh well. I hope other mappers don't start doing that 'release on it's own' thinghy... :/

[FATAL]

Oh well. I hope other mappers don't start doing that 'release on it's own' thinghy... :/
I can't deny that it wouldn't have crossed my mind, but I decided that it would be rude to do so.

[Lutrov71]

It is quite rude but It has been through so much, and Cyber-Menace really wanted to see what the community thought of it.
They love it. 5 stars, 7 votes on IDgames database. :D
I probably won't release any more maps on their own though. It's just this map.

[FATAL]

Well, you could just say that the map is in the newdoom community project megawad as MAPXX

[Lutrov71]

I d0n't think it would make any difference to anything.

[FATAL]

Yes it would. Then the people intrested in your map could download NDCP and choose mapXX from there. This way, the project would get a partial credit for the map.

[Aliotroph?]

We like the referrals. :)

[Lutrov71]

Yes it would. Then the people intrested in your map could download NDCP and choose mapXX from there.
I don't think many people would remember No Brakes once NDCP is released.

[Doom_Dude]

Maybe you guys could put in a few changes for the NDCP version? Like throw in a unsuspecting trap or two. ;) Thats if you like the idea. Now I'm going to get some sleep.

[Nuxius]

So, have we made up our mind yet on what skies we're going to use?

From what I get:

Maps 1-11
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky2a.png

Maps 12-20 :
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/ndcp/sky1.png

Maps 21-32 :
http://www.zen32541.zen.co.uk/Rsky1.bmp

These choices all sound good to me.

[FATAL]

I don't think that's such a good idea. Maps 1-20 have almost the same sky.

[Doom_Dude]

I don't think that's such a good idea. Maps 1-20 have almost the same sky.

Well I like the first one better than the second. It's up to the iori to make anouther one if he wants. Personally I like the three. :D

[iori]

Hmm, I'd have to install Photoshop again on this new comp (athlon64 3500+ \m/ ), but I agree that sky2 is nice, but is too similar to sky 1. Also, I was planning on using sky2 on my Songs map that I replaced in the ndcp, so that would work out. Unfortunately, I dont know what to make for the 2nd sky, unless we use this one:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky3.png

But DD, you might want to use that one for Vilecore II if I cant figure out a good brownish one? That is up to you, and we can talk about that later if you like.

Anyway, it is up to the team which sky goes where, and what the skies look like, so if anyone has any suggestions I suppose I can take a look.

[PumpkinSmasher]

perhaps add some mountains in that brownish one you just posted. That may look good.

[DoomedAce]

Heh, the more skies you post, the harder it gets for me to pick :p

On topic: I decided to rename Map03 "Halls of Silence". It suits the level (and the music) better.

[PumpkinSmasher]

Here are 2 sky's that I just made in like 20 seconds. It doesn't look quite right to me but just another to look at. Simple cut and paste job witht he mountains and such from iori's sky's.

http://img111.exs.cx/img111/8715/untitled15ky.png

http://img111.exs.cx/img111/193/untitled25ic.png

[Mystic]

those are nice skies, if they dont get used I may like to use some of them please, Im always on the lookout for sexy skies.

[Mystic]

I actually have fancied up legacy only versions of both my maps, with added 3d floors, deep water sewers etc but I have no plans to release them until at least a few weeks after the NDCP thing is released.

correction, I lost all my wads when my hard drive was murdered a few weeks ago. Ok so i plan to make legacy only versions of both my maps but thats a long term plan for doing after NDCP has made a name for itself, I will do a legacy only version of my map06 in freedoom too. They will be a lot different, lots of 3d etc, you know what Im like.

[Doom_Dude]

unless we use this one:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/iori/skies/sky3.png

But DD, you might want to use that one for Vilecore II if I cant figure out a good brownish one? That is up to you, and we can talk about that later if you like.

Anyway, it is up to the team which sky goes where, and what the skies look like, so if anyone has any suggestions I suppose I can take a look.

Wowzers, that sky looks really nice. I think we should use that as sky2 in the NDCP. ;)

[iori]

Alright then ;)

[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, I've been ignoring this because my map lacks sky. :p

Those skies are sweet.

[Mystic]

they remind me of some of turners paintings, very nice.

OH my map15, I remember its name now. 'City of lost souls'

I knew there was a reason for placing all them flying skulls in it.

[Aliotroph?]

I would have called it "City of Fighting in a Huge Melee only to Wander around for an Hour later looking for the Red Key Door With Nothing Left to Do." ;)

It was a damn fun map. Took me 3 tries to pass. :D

[Mystic]

oops maybe its the legacy one that has all the lost souls, I remember now, I like them because they can bite you through the 3d floors.

I tried to make it similar to the original map 15, a really crappy looking 'urban' setting that ive never really liked. I think my map looks much better and probably plays a bit better too.

[Doom_Dude]

Is it Lost Souls or not cause I had changed it after you said it was. :p

[Aliotroph?]

They both have a lot of lost souls.

[Mystic]

cool, Im not fussy what its called though, any personal version of it will be named something rude anyway, wetpoosi was the name I was using when I started it.

[Doom_Dude]

It doesn't look like a wetpoosi map. :p

[FATAL]

I want to see more blood!!! I mean, red map names...

[Doom_Dude]

Seven maps to goes! :D

[Aliotroph?]

Looney said he didn't start his. :p

[DoomedAce]

Playing through Fatal's map gave me new inspiration and I'm trying to finish Map03 as quickly as the uni will let me.

[FATAL]

Haha, copier!

[DoomedAce]

I figured my lighting needs more work ;)

[DoomedAce]

I'd like to have Map03's name changed to "Water Treatment", as it fits the theme better.

Oh, anyone who mentions "double-post" gets a refrigerator thrown his way.

[FATAL]

Didn't you know the it's illegal to... DP

[DoomedAce]

You, sir, are pushing your luck.

[FATAL]

Nope, I'm just checking that no-one breaks the double post rule.

[Cyberia-Mix]

So if I got it right you're close to release a map pack for Doom2 (I assume that since there are 32 maps, tell me if I'm wrong), but all the slots are full ? Too bad. I guess I could have made a map for this pack. Could someone give me explanations about it plz ?

[FATAL]

You can be in the queue, in case someone decides to leave the project.

Currently your line number is... 1

So if someone busts, you'll get in.

Of course, I'm no one to decide about these things, but Doom Dude, the project leader, seems to be on holidays.

[Doom_Dude]

There are no open slots at the moment and we have a couple back-up maps if somebody 'busts' so thats the deal for now.

[Aliotroph?]

Also worth noting that there's no way this thing will run without using at least BooM as a port. Too many weird textures and visplane overflows. :D

[Cyberia-Mix]

I'll be okay but only if it's for Doom II.
I tried a map for ZDoom just a few days ago and "whoah !" It's pretty different from what I do. For 'complex things' I already have UT and Ut2k4 you know. ^^
So don't expect anything evolved from my side or forget me. I'll continue to map, but just for Doom. No jumps, no swimming, no 3D floors and that kind of stuffs, just Doom (like that crazy Megawad called Class_ep ;)).

[Doom_Dude]

Also worth noting that there's no way this thing will run without using at least BooM as a port. Too many weird textures and visplane overflows. :D

A port will be recommended in the final readme file. :p

[PumpkinSmasher]

MAn its been over a year since i finished my map for this. Hmm i think its time for a release. Wasn't the deadline last december. Maybe we should set a new one

[FATAL]

The last mappers show up rarely at newdoom, and Agent Spork and Dittohead are the only ones I know that really map currently. It's going to be a long and strechy deadline. :p

[General Greivous]

Dittohead is hard at work on his map right now, we talk on AIM. I'm not sure how far along he is but he's always saying he's busy working on it because he wants to get it out of the way so he can start working with others on another project that's caught his interest.

[Doom_Dude]

Thats good to know. :D

[MR_ROCKET]

I could make a launcher for the ndcp if wanted, its ironic that you just posted news about lobo's gui launcher when I was just thinking of asking you guys this the other day.heh
Of course if wanted, I'd have to wait until the play test of the mega wad so I would get the low down on what extra cvars to add. in other words i would need to know how you guys are mostly play testing it e.g. -mb -opengl etc.
let me know and I'll fix up a proto type.

Also if it turned out that you guys would like for me to do this, it would require some extra art work for a gui dialog splash image or flash animation.

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds interesting Mr Rocket.

I wouldn't know a Cvar if I fell on it.

[aliceschain]

Map03's name is Doomsday Machine