IT Security Top 20

[Looney]

SANS Top 20:
http://www.sans.org/top20/
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Related Article Quote From Computerworld:
"Hands down, Web browsers for Windows were the topic that caused most of the harm, pain and passionate debate for experts from every continent," Patel said. With the number of vulnerabilities in Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer browser prompting some security experts to suggest earlier this year that users switch to other browsers, list contributors were left wondering whether they should recommend the same, Patel said.
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/holes/story/0,10801,96516,00.html?SKC=holes-96516

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah its gotten insane with the whole IE thing. Glad I don't have ti use it anymore.

[Doom2Hell]

the vulnerabilities in microsoft's products are brought to light because ppl look for them, ppl LIKE fuxxooring with gates' shyt, no one cares about other ppls products, id bet they have a few vulnerabilities themselves, just no neon signs are ever put over them to point them out... although there are probably alot fewer in other products if we did know they were there, and i'm sure alot oare discovered, but thats beside the point, my theory is hackers and ppl who make viruses are crapping on thier own heads, they are mad cuz gates is so rich and charges so much for his stuff, but the price goes up when he has to pay EXTRA ppl to work on fixes for all these new viruses, go figure, vicious cycle

[Looney]

Job security is what it will boil down to for me when I have my Degree in hand. :D The Most secure computer is the one that never gets turned on. The Most secure software is what stays in the box. :D

[The Undertaker]

I feel safe on DOS using Lotus Notes.:D

[Tylenol]

Job security is what it will boil down to for me when I have my Degree in hand. :D The Most secure computer is the one that never gets turned on. The Most secure software is what stays in the box. :D

You're wrong. The most secure computer is one that never get plugged into the net.

[Looney]

Oh....? If it is turned on, It can be hacked... Viruses can spread via any media you know... ;) ... so there for, it's not as safe as one that is off. :D

[The Undertaker]

My remote spreads viruses through the IrDA port.:D

[Doom_Dude]

the vulnerabilities in microsoft's products are brought to light because ppl look for them, ppl LIKE fuxxooring with gates' shyt, no one cares about other ppls products, id bet they have a few vulnerabilities themselves, just no neon signs are ever put over them to point them out... although there are probably alot fewer in other products if we did know they were there, and i'm sure alot oare discovered, but thats beside the point, my theory is hackers and ppl who make viruses are crapping on thier own heads, they are mad cuz gates is so rich and charges so much for his stuff, but the price goes up when he has to pay EXTRA ppl to work on fixes for all these new viruses, go figure, vicious cycle

I think the fuxxxxooring peeps used IE as a target for all this shit because it was so widely used. I bet if we all were using (enter other browser name here) all along then it would've been the item these spywarezing bastards were looking for weaknessess in. Then again I think IE has extra security troubles because of it being intergrated with windows. Maybe I read that someplace.

I agree that these assholio haxorz scumchickens are crapping on thier own heads and surely not helping any of us who pay for Microsoft stuffs. *sulk*

[Aliotroph?]

The trick is to always use a better browser (as in different browser) than whatever the average AOL subscriber uses. :p

At the same time M$ adds features that encourage hacks. They love to make all their software talk to their other software in ways that get exploited. There's no reason for allowing sites to be trusted by default, integrating a web browser into the desktop show and file managers or making word processor documents that are programmable and can connect to e-mail clients. Scares me how much effort they spend on those weird things when they could be doing something useful like making stuff more stable or hammering out the 10,000 or so obvious bugs in various versions of Windows.

I see the popup guys are starting to work their way round FF's default popup blocker though. There are a few sites that can make popups in FF.

[Doom2Hell]

yes, but it is more trouble than its worth, and those types of pop ups are probably more expensive since they are rare, and alot of companies wont bother to pay for them, at leat not for a while

and i agree double dee, you reworded it better, its not JUST because its gates shyt, its because its ALSO what everybody uses... going back to what alio said about the new popups that can come up in FF, its because more ppl are using it, and ppl are recognizing it and its making it more worth while for ppl to invest time and money into creating crap that works on FF... BAH

[Aliotroph?]

I wonder if this stuff will work on ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/) when it's done.