Yep! Total Overhyped Crap!

[fletch38]

That's right! I am sure many will come in opposition to this statement but forums allow for expressed opinions so here I go............IT'S BEEN MANY A YEAR SINCE I HAVE ACTUALLY SAID "THIS GAME IS NOT EVEN WORTH TAKING ALL THE WAY TO THE END"

Doom 3 meets this criteria perfectly! Lighting? Graphics? Engine? These are not enough to stimulate my repeated play. The game has to: bottom line - just be a "fun" experience. For this reason it is NOT worth waisting time. For all the negative reasons
already expressed on this site and for which I will not repeat. Advice - if you played any of the 90's early ID Doom games, just say to yourself "been there done that" and let it go.

Much better games out there that you can play repeatedly without being a "file re-load fest" like this game is when you constantly run out of health, equipment...................
.............................and interest!

[FATAL]

First of all, you seem to be an idiot, and a very bad player.

All the time I had over 60% health, and 70 armor, with almost full ammo on every weapon.
And I don't see you telling your points too closely. If you feel like you don't like the game, it doesn't mean it's a bad game; Many other people may like it very much. DooM 3 already has a modding community, and there are couple of levels released already, making it a bit longer lasting game. Also, I find scary games fun to play, so that your point that the game is not fun, is just your opinion. You should've said "I don't find this game very fun".

Better think a bit before posting your first posts to some forum. Sure, everyone makes some bad posts here and there, and your post seems to be one of them: simply ignorant.

I hope you'll change your way of telling us your opinions.

[GoldEyes]

Just because YOU don't like a game, doesn't mean anything. So...yeah. What are you trying to do here? Start a flame war?

Plus, you say there are better games out there, do you mind sharing your idea of "better games" with us???

[fletch38]

I'll stand by my statement. Once again for any of you out there wishing to read a review before buying; do not buy into the "hype" that so many have stated on this forum. Save your money for
a "happy meal".........now that's something really scary!

Also, be aware that these individuals will also make statements like Alien versus Predator or I Robot were the greatest sci fi movies. So that says it all.

[FATAL]

Well, I like DooM 3, and that's enough for me. I just want to hear "I don't like this game" -post instead of "this game is crap".

[sLydE]

worst thread ever....

first off, if you're going to give your 2 cents about doom3, why not put it in the doom3 section of the forums? second, if you're going to be an a**hole about it, why bother writing to everyone about it in this manner? if you didn't like it, write up a full review, provide some evidence for why you didn't enjoy it. it's not proper to come here spouting off about this and that, that only invites other people to be drawn down to your level. This community is very tight-knit, and we don't really welcome people who start flame wars, or incite riots with their comments. So, please, tone it down a little, and you'll make a better impression on all of us.

[GoldEyes]

Still no examples of "better games"......*waiting*

(I know I know, I should close this, but this is too fun!!!)

[fletch38]

...life is a "spectrum", "scale", "yin and yeng" kind of experience. Why not bring things back into balance for every post here that says "This game is totally AWESOME!" or "Sooooo Scary!"

Absolutely nothing wrong with saying Crap..........at least I didn't say #&**(@^! ' ing Crap!

[GoldEyes]

haha, that's funny you say it's crap now....how about earlier this month when you posted this....

1) Yes, I would have liked to be able to interact with objects more(flush toilets, mess with crates) but it is truely an enjoyable game.

2) Remember the first time you played the original; well I am an older gamer, and although I monitor my nine year old's gaming activities(like a good parent should), It
is quite amusing seeing his "fear factor" raised just watching me move through the dark coridors.

3) I would have liked the shotgun to rip out a sound equivalent to a C4 explosion instead
of like a sledge-hammer smacking an anvil.

....................but these are small things.

How many times do you still stop and re-watch the "Aliens" movie even though you know
exactly when the creatures will strike. It's the narrow passages, shadowing, and relentless enemy that keep you wanting more and more and more................

Very interesting! Still no examples of better games...way to avoid it! ;)

[FATAL]

Maybe he's schizophrenic.

[fletch38]

.........yes, I am a great example of my latest point......I too was swayed by the "hype" early on.
But after continued play, boy did I really want my $$$$ back.

[GoldEyes]

haha. Sure. You pointed things out and even said "its an enjoyable game" meaning you have played through it somewhat, at least. If it was complete crap you would have saw that as soon as you started to play. Hype has nothing to do with that, you are using it as an excuse to get people riled up.

and again..examples of better games????? ;)

[DoomedAce]

From what I've been able to piece together, you think Doom 3 is crap just because it's mostly the same as the other Dooms? As in, shoot monsters, pick up weapons, shoot monsters, pick up item, shoot monsters? As in, a sober storyline and little depth?

Sorry to disappoint you, but THAT's Doom. You could've expected that.

[fletch38]

I am an avid reader; and many a book I pick up often takes many chapters and pages to get into the story. Sometimes after 100 plus pages, I say, "this is Crap", and toss the book. Sometimes after 100 plus pages, I say, "this is Crap", and keep reading to the end.

What I don't do is read the first page and say "THIS IS AWESOME!".

MY initial post was an opinion after playing several of the early chapters of the game when I felt
I had a good feel for the game. What I found later was, just like the books from the second scenario above, the pure boredom with the repetition of the game play makes it almost unbearable
to get all my $$$ worth of the investment.

[Doom_Dude]

What is the point in screaming at us that you hate Doom 3? Ok, we get the point that you don't like it. I'm not sure how you expected Doom 3 to not be like Doom. Hah.

[GoldEyes]

and he STILL hasnt given us any examples of BETTER games! :p

[DooMMooD]

hey man, I, Robot was really great :( and if i bought $55 dollars worth of happy meals instead of buying Doom 3 id probably be as fat and stupid as you. i mean ignorant. i mean idiotic. i mean retarted. no..... i mean stupid. anyway, enjoy the game man. im talking to your other half not your "i hate this f***ing game!" half.

[Doom_Dude]

What I found later was, just like the books from the second scenario above, the pure boredom with the repetition of the game play makes it almost unbearable
to get all my $$$ worth of the investment. Well that sucks if you feel its was so worthless. I'm glad I don't feel like I was ripped off.

[fletch38]

My point is not for the benefit of you guys! Heck, I bit on the hook just like you guys did!
My point is for those who come to the forum to get a balanced viewpoint before possibly going
to buy a game. $49 - 54 is a significant amount- (maybe I could actually buy the dogfood instead of using the food stamps this month)...the prices these days on the software should really bring back a good ROI........but unfortunately the neg. replayability makes it "shelf-ware" should you be fortunate to finish it.

[FATAL]

Still, if you'd tell us about what did you like in doom 3, and what you didn't, we would be a MUCH happier.

And I'm still waiting for that "my opinion is that..." instead of just saying your thoughts as facts.

[GoldEyes]

I think if someone is going to spend $50+ on a game, they would do more research into it than just HERE at some forums. But hey, maybe I am just cheap. If I didn't know if I would like a game or not, I surely wouldn't shell out $50 for it. I'd wait for it to come down in price, etc.

HERE you are going to find DIE HARD Doom fans. Most people here already know what to expect from this game. Its DOOM, if you are disappointed in it "being just like Doom 2" or whatever, then you had no idea about Doom to begin with.

[Nephil]

Well, I could mention some better games, but I don't think it's my turn now. ;)

I was a little disappointed, too, when I played the game (Borrowed it from a friend). So, I waited, and got it today, used of course, but for only 30 Euros (incl. postage). I'll give it another try. If I still don't like it, at least I didn't pay the full price. And I will sure be able to sell it for the same price again! :)

...Painkiller... SCNR

[Doom_Dude]

Well just like anything, theres going to be people who don't like (enter whatever here) and thats just the way it goes. I don't think we (speaking for myself at least) are bothered that you don't like D3, its just the initial post seemed very hasty and flaming. Anyways I'm sick (I got some flu bug) and must go lay down. Maybe let us know what you did like about Doom 3.... or was it all crappy?

[jls23]

Maybe it is his 9 year old son saying all this. Heh, personal experience, trust me.

I can think of a better game! Oh, wait, no I can't. Yes I can! Ultimate Doom!

BTW NO I don't have a son I did that to my dad years ago.

Oh and BTW Doom-Dude hope ya feel better soon.

If you are disappointed in it being "just like Doom2" or whatever...

I am glad it did not turn out like D2.

[Looney]

Morrowind Tribunal and Bloodmoon. There Goldy there is a game and it's expantion paks I would highly recomend it. :) *drinky*

I have noticed allot of things that are close to System Shock in Doom 3, But, I still love the game for what it is... DOOM!

[GoldEyes]

jls, don't take that SO literally.....it was saying "you bought Doom 3, thinking it was going to be different, but its DOOM...if you didnt realize it was going to be DOOM, then you're own fault".

LOL! Thanks Looney! :p ;)

[jls23]

Oh, but even though D2 was the real bomb in the series I still loved what it added, but not the levels *mad*

BTW, Morrowind better than doom3? wtf morrowind pales in comparison to doom! And I wish bethesda would take the time optimize their f*ing engine cuz I get better framerates in far cry, with everything at the highest.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, it's repetitive, but that's been mentioned in reviews. People who love endlessly killing monsters, grabbing PDAs and staring at eye candy all love this game. So you don't. Big deal. No reason to get obnoxious about it.

Why'd you even need to make another topic like this anyway? We already have a few rather long and detailed discussions about this stuff. You can even find all the stuff I don't like about Doom there, which incidently is very similar to the stuff you don't like, although to a lesser degree.

[eX_Do0mY]

Well, if it wasn't repetitive, it wouldn't be DOOM.

[Mystic]

My point is not for the benefit of you guys! Heck, I bit on the hook just like you guys did!
My point is for those who come to the forum to get a balanced viewpoint before possibly going
to buy a game. $49 - 54 is a significant amount- (maybe I could actually buy the dogfood instead of using the food stamps this month)...the prices these days on the software should really bring back a good ROI........but unfortunately the neg. replayability makes it "shelf-ware" should you be fortunate to finish it.


here is my opinion for what its worth. YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.

[Doom_Dude]

Morrowind is a great game and so is Doom 3. Kinda hard to compare such different game titles as ones an FPS and the other is a RPG. They're both great. By the way, Morrowind runs better on my machine than Far Cry.... go figure.

Thanks jls23, I hope I feel better soon too. ;)

[DoomedAce]

here is my opinion for what its worth. YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.

I'm not quite sure whether I want to be entitled to that *drunk*. Kinda strong if you'd ask me.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

meaning you have played through it somewhat, at least.
1 Hour like the others, eh?

[Tyberious]

I'll stand by my statement. Once again for any of you out there wishing to read a review before buying; do not buy into the "hype" that so many have stated on this forum. Save your money for
a "happy meal".........now that's something really scary!

Also, be aware that these individuals will also make statements like Alien versus Predator or I Robot were the greatest sci fi movies. So that says it all.

I agree that most of us are intelligent beings which are capable of intelligent indipendant thought and able to conduct studies and research on their own. I suggest you let THEM instead of your biased self make that decision because YOU do not know what their tastes are and are assuming that everyone has the same thought process as you. If someone doesn't like it then take it back and don't bitch about it! End of story, enough of this childish tantrum throwing about how much you didn't like the game because we don't need nor do we accept that kind of crap here.

ON my second point, did YOU program a game better then that or help out or even help build a TC (Total Conversion mod) for it? I don't think so, so where do you get the jurisdiction to justify your complaint without any cold hard facts generated before us to back up your biased claims? I see this crap in all kinds of different forms based from the following stupid/irrational/illogical complaints:

"it wont run on my computer so it must suck!"
"its too hard so it must be a piece of crap."
"I am too dense to understand the plot and all I see is monsters, my gun and pretty graphics because I skipped all the cutscenes and ignored the plot so it must suck."
"there are no cheatcodes and its too hard so this much be a gay game."
ETC.
so on and so forth with the inconclusive arguements that could go on to ad infinitum.

Now we would respect your your .02 cents you thrown in the collective pot of constructive critisizm if you had anything worth commenting on. This seems to show that you did not look into the game. Also with how "forward" and "uncalled for rude style lamblasting." I apologize about the lack of manner I seem to have had in this post but what you posted wasn't exactly nice. You could have been nice about it and could have atleast respected the doom community. You also stated that "THIS GAME IS NOT EVEN WORTH TAKING ALL THE WAY TO THE END" which means you didn't even put in necessary time for the plot to unfold. Most reviewers would have atleast had the respect to finish the game before they lamblast the game. How the hell do you KNOW that its going to be bad when YOU haven't even tried? If people reviewed games like this then i'll tell you that almost every game would have a bad rating. This is what we call in the real world "a poor review" or also known as "unprofessional journalizm". It does NOT prove your point, leaves room for error and shows others that you did not put your time in for a PROPER review of the game, you don;t even mention any good props, besodes, your not a programming genious so its not like you could do any better to be bluntly honest.

Also you state that people who like the game like AVP and I-Robot and you also take your time to diss those who like the movie and, once again, do NOT provide any good reason why you say all these "products" (because thats what they are) suck. Do us a favor, if you want to come across with a good solid point then take your time to PROPERELY review the game, post Pro's and Con's. What the price was and what it was worth to you and let the reader make the decision him/herself. Instead of posting crap like "this game is crap because I said so!" Kind of junk in this thread. All I can say was this "improperely written review" was a disappointment, there was NO reason to post this and you could have had atleast enough RESPECT to have been nice.

I really had it with these childish threads popping all over the place due the inability to review things correctly.*mad*

[Krayons]

Hmm... well, everyone has thier reasons for liking a game, not liking a game, buying a game, not buying a game, whatever...

i like games w/ story, and i like games with blood/gore/scaryness.

if i get at least one of these, or even both, then its fine by me. - 50$ is rather cheap for me[all you people need to get jobs - if you think 50$ for a game is bad, try picking up some good guitar equipment...], so i went and bought this game. i've played into it a bit, still just as good as when i started playing it about 3 weeks ago. [i play on and off, for about 30 mins - an hour or 2, not 4 - 6 hours like some people...]

things i liked about doom :
Grafix
Enemies
Come Back of and Old Classic
Mods/Editability [someones bound to make an insane Total Conversion sooner or later]

not only that, but it puts other games / ideas for games in motion, like quake 3 did, it provides a game engine that could be used to create other games [JKII anyone?]

things i didnt like about doom:
yea it gets a lil repetative. [but hey, when im bored, and/or really pist off, i just load it up and kill me some zombies 'n demons(very stress relieving) - i personally like to give names to all them ones i kill... Hello Matt(my brother) - Feel the rath of my Shotgun as i pump huge shells into your punny zomby brain!!! **splat** guess what we're havin for dinner tonight :) anyone have an oven mod? cook me some zombie brain...]
the flashlight [fixed w/ mod] - you'd think that with thier advanced technology they'd all have nightvision, awesome flares, and/or shoulder mounted flood lights... and hand held nukes... those would help from time to time...

i have most, if not all, of ID's games [with the exception of thier doom/doom2/ultimate doom collectors edition pack, i have the originals tho]

but dont get me wrong, i play other games too - Morrowind, Daggerfall, Jedi Knight, Baldurs gate, Diablo, Starcraft, Americas Army, Battlefield, WWII online...

basically, every game has its ups, every game has its down, either play it over at a friends house for a week or 2 to get the feel for the game and see if you would pay for it, or wait till price drops after some time..

now, quake and doom [w/ the exception of quake 3 - was more of a UT Wannabe] were made for the gore / puzzle(hell, my mom and girlfiend used to play the older games just to find all the secrets, or figure out how to do certain things) / demon killing fun - they've been out for awhile now, if you figured that doom 3 would be any different - then damn, i want some of whatever your smokin cuz your obviously in the wrong world buddy... - if you really want diversiveness compared to the same game title, i suggest you head over to the final fantasy games(kind of an oximoron due the the fact of the sheer # of em they've produced) , most of those(some of the early ones seemed a bit too much like each other[4 + 6 were just remakes for different systems really]) are totally different games, and shouldnt even have the same name :p

[Tyberious]

now you see the difference? Vast difference here! This atleast gives the reader some value because someone took their time to play the game and post their experiences with it. Plus it was nicer then a consistant lamblasting post about how much so and so hated the game. This way instead of forcing the reader to adopt a similiar mindset the author has of the game, it hands the choice to the reader and lets them make the decision based on multiple reviews, hopefully the reader takes the time to read BOTH the good and the bad.)

[KoolKat]

I wish those who like Doom 3 would stop insulting fletch38. He's only giving his opinion of the game which should be welcome here. I haven't played D3 yet but I damn well intend to, and if the gameplay is like Doom and D2, good for id software, they said that's what they were going for. It is up to the modders to make cool stories and interesting gameplay for the engine!

[GoldEyes]

Its not that he said it sucked..its the WAY he said it.

[TheVoid]

Here, just to show you how it should be done, I'll only list the things I didn't like about the game. This is to show you that you can, in fact, only complain about the game, but make it sound coherent.

1) I didn't like the pinky demon at all. He looked cool as hell, but his roar was weak, I think of all the pinkies I ran into, I got bit like twice, and dammit, i miss the CLUMP! when they hit the floor like in the original games.

2) Weapons to Enemies balance. Basically, when i finished the game, i had full ammo in almost all my guns. Not like in the original... anyone remember fighting the Cyberdemon and running out of all weapons so you had to use your pistol? I never even used the BFG until i was fighting the final boss. EDIT: Okay, upon further reflection, I lied. I fired the BFG 3 times before the final boss.

3) Too many damn imps. Imps imps everywhere, where they come from, I don't care. Seriously there's got to be at least 4,000 imps in this game. More pinkies would have solved this i think.

4) Almost all the bosses were a joke except (without spoiling anything) the one that could levitate stuff. All other bosses I usually defeated on the first (or second, if theres a special way to kill them or something) try, before they could even fire a shot. EDIT: You honestly start to wonder "did id actually PLAY against this boss? Or did they write him up and go 'yeah he looks good on paper!' without actually... you know... fighting him?" And if they did fight those bosses, and thought to themselves "yeah! this guys pretty tough" then the guys at id SUCK at videogames.

5) Multiplayer is a waste. Maybe its just me and my non-superior system (OMG HE DOSNT PWN A 6800!!!11), but it's damn near impossible to find a playable server. Even when you turn on the "no full servers" and "no passworded" filters, here's the breakdown:
50% need a password anyways
40% are full anyways
6% are empty
2% say something about the data not being in sync.
1% have such a high ping that it's totally unplayable.
1% are playable for about 15 minutes before lag takes over, or everyone leaves.

6) The ending is pathetic. I don't want to give it away, but its like 30 hours of gameplay, 20 seconds of end story. And (minor spoiler) we don't even get the damn bunny head on a stake! :(

So, there you have it. All the stuff I hated about Doom 3 without mentioning ANY of the positive stuff. And it STILL sounded better than the original poster.

[ARMYguy]

I too want to know what better games there are. Iv bought and beaten all the shooters on the market since quake 2, and i really want to know...

[Mystic]

RTCW ?? I love that game. I dont have doom 3 and wont have it for at least another year so its not really important to me just now. I will buy it eventually even if just to keep up my id collection.

[jls23]

They should make it available online.

[Tyberious]

I have RTCW. Great game, beat it a good while ago. It was fun but didn't last long enough in my opinion. Unfortionately due to my "college budget" I wont be aquiring a copy of doom ]|[ for a while, let alone that replacement graphics card so I might have to sit this one out for a good while.

[GoldEyes]

Thats why I am glad Enemy Territory is FREE! So much fun. Heh.

[Tyberious]

wish I had time and a graphics card that could run it in order to play it. Chances are that I'd get owned pretty bad since I am still green when it comes to that game (or most multiplayer games for that matter.)

[The Undertaker]

You can always be a medic.

[Mr. Chris]

I disagree. Game has many great spots and does have minor flaws tho.

[MR_ROCKET]

Yea RTCW , we could always use some extra medics heh.

When it comes to Doom3 though , I think we should take a step back and look at it as id software did , its they're creation based on, well.. they're story creation heh , D3 shouldn't be compared to the original game just the story .
With the advanced graphics of today they were just able to tell the story better , not a recreation of the original game because I'm sure "they wish they could have made it like D3 back then".
I think it should be looked at as the way RTCW is looked at.
as far as bugs go , you know I haven't seen a game or program that hasn't had a few bugs from the get go , even after release heh.
There is a point release/bug fix patch on the way though from what I hear.

[Nephil]

I too want to know what better games there are. Iv bought and beaten all the shooters on the market since quake 2, and i really want to know...Unreal. Man, that game kicked my ass much more than D3 does.

Whoa, I still remember the first time I got to the 2nd level (or the 3rd), where you walk along a narrow hallway and suddenly your path gets blocked, all the lights go out, one by one, and all of a sudden this damn Skaarj Warrior leaps at you out of nowhere! *eek*

No scene in D3 scared me the way this one did...

[ARMYguy]

Unreal is weak. But not as weak as Unreal 2 was, though it was sort of fun ( had good graphics for the day ) I find myself liking ID games as a whole more than any other games... Theres just something about them thats different.

[jls23]

Unreal scared me back when I was 8, but I was 8. Unreal actually got pretty boring for a couple REALLY long levels but then jumped back up. A very unique and fun game. MUCH better than UT, but nowhere near D3.

U2 suked ass compared to Unreal 1, but was still OK.

[Doom_Dude]

I liked the first levels in Unreal 2 and I kinda liked those first alien enemies for some reason. The game was ok. The first Unreal was cool for its time but I don't think any of the Unreal stuff is as good as Doom 3.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Thats why I am glad Enemy Territory is FREE! So much fun. Heh.
I know that all too well.:D
wish I had time and a graphics card that could run it in order to play it.
If you can play RTCW then ET shouldn't be an issue.:)
Iloved Unreal II. It may not have been a true sequel but it's graphics dropped jaws to the floor and was once declared DooM III's only rival. I'de say it was woorth my money, despite it not running too well on my rig.*thumbs* As for Unreal, I've never had a chance to play it but it's got some good music which does my ZDOOM work justice.:D

[jls23]

Oh man you gotta play it. Wondrous game, and I have reason to believe that Unreal 3 will kick HL2's ass, and maybe even... --gulp--... DOOM 3's ASS.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Well I'm sure Unreal III will kick ass. I've seen the tech stuff and it looks mighty great. It's darn well going to kick both HL2's and DooM III's ass but then, why go on about rivalries? You have 2 great games. And with all these dumb reasons why you must hate one game and love the other is just stupid. I personally can't wait to get my mits on DooM III, Half-Life 2, Unreal III and not forgetting Thief III. I'm a huge Thief fan and just so want to play that game.:D

[MasterOfPuppets]

It's darn well going to kick both HL2's and DooM III's ass but then, why go on about rivalries?plus we won't get to play it for a few years, what else would you exept from tomarrow's games? :)

[ToXiCFLUFF]

Unreal engine III isn't anything too impressive. It's essentially the same tech as Doom3, but with higher polycounts and texture resolutions - which is what you'd expect from games coming out in 2006. For instance, a game made on the Q3 engine in 2002 is obviously going to have higher detail environments and models than Q3 which was made in 1999 - but it doesn't have much to do with the engine since the capability was always there.

[jls23]

Ahem, soft shadows? You know, umbra and penumbra?

[ToXiCFLUFF]

Ahem, soft shadows? You know, umbra and penumbra?Uh yes, I do know. But they are only one feature, and even then are not used everywhere (if you inspect the videos closely).

[jls23]

I didn't even see the videos *wacky* go figure. I only went by what I heard...

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Well you have to see it. I need say no more.:D

[Arkan]

Hey people, lets remember something here. Even though it's his 1st post and you may not like his views, it's only a game. Thats right, just a game. I think some of you came off a lil' hard on the guy. Did you look at his post count before replying? I'm sure some (definately not all) of you will look at my post count and say "Hey, look at the n00b here sticking up for the other n00b".
...thats really not the case, i just see it as some guy giving his opinion (which doesn't have to be backed by stats or whatever) about the game. I for one, think the story-line could've been better but, it's a fun game to play none the less.
Oh, one more thing, my reply here wasn't meant as a flame...it's just my opinion. *smirk*

[jls23]

He doesn't like something about doom3! GET 'EM!


But the only forum I can think of where you will find n00b discrimination is any hl2 forum, especially HL2Fallout.

[Arkan]

OMG, don't even mention a "Half-life" forum. I got banned from one years ago. :D

[jls23]

Oh and clans. Fucking clans, they never like n00bs. Any one involved in hl or any of it's mods is a n00bophobic. I'm only homophobic, so you can trust me. Oh and never EVER say anything bad about hl2 over at hl2fallout. Immediate ban, trust me. Fucking HL2 Fanatics over there.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Well you have to see it. I need say no more.:Dyup saw that. amazing stuff, the future looks good. (well, at least for video games)

[jls23]

Can someone provide a link plz?

[Tyberious]

LMAO@jls23's comment about clans. Damn that was funny, and true!

[jls23]

Here is something WAK pointed out to me:

http://www.pwned.nl/

[MasterOfPuppets]

http://www.pwned.nl/ahaha. god i love that thing. every time i play with my friends we "REEEEEEEEEEE" at each other when somebody is getting angry. its great.

but to answer your request for the unreal thingy...http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/13/news_6098240.html. it is really amazing looking stuff.

[jls23]

My god, I do the same thing with my buddy trevor. WREEEE!!!!!

I Hate yuo myg0t 1 is good too.

EDIT: Could you provide a link to a bigger and more high-quality one plz?

[ChexBoss]

I dont even HAVE the game and I love it!

My friend bought it, and we were in a giant trance of 3d and blood that seemed like a blackhole, never letting us out!

Although I do suck at playing it, *turvy* I still love it!

[Deathmonkey7]

@ tyberious and his incredibly long post

Thank you! that' s exactly what I was going to post! only... shorter : P

[Jonny]

Here is something WAK pointed out to me:

http://www.pwned.nl/

that is by far the funniest thing i have ever seen.

liking the pearl jam at the end too...

i cant stand counter-strike *ugh*

halo and call of duty multi.. now those games are fun.

[Tyberious]

@ tyberious and his incredibly long post

Thank you! that' s exactly what I was going to post! only... shorter : P

LMAO! That actually got a good chuckle out of me. I do have quite a few long posts, I try to space the paragraphs out to make it as readable as I can instead of making it all squished together.

@jonny
so thats who sings that song! I was wondering what that was because I kinda liked the beat to it.

[jls23]

Hey Deathmonkey when was the last time you posted here?

[DoomedAce]

Hey Deathmonkey when was the last time you posted here?

Simple. About 4 posts ago *rolleyes*

[Deathmonkey7]

lol

It's been a while.. I'm waiting for JDRP 1.1!

[Looney]

Doesn't anyone read the damn rules. *whatever*

[Doom_Dude]

Hey Deathmonkey could you please scale down the sig pic to 400 x 100.
Here are the forum rules: http://forums.newdoom.com/showthread.php?t=11812

[DoomedAce]

Might be a good idea to post the rules on every forum, considering there are people who only visit certain forums.

EDIT: Ahem... Just noticed it's already there... *rolleyes* "Note to self: Check before you post"

[Deathmonkey7]

what's wrong with the size of my sig? it's not that big. unless you have your resolution at 800x600, then it might be kinda big... oh well.. I'll get rid of it :(

[jls23]

He didn't say to get rid of it, just to size it down. It's a cool sig, don't get rid of it!

[FATAL]

A cruel resizing usually makes pictures look kinda blocky.

[Tyberious]

not unless it was resized and pseudo sharpened and filtered with a quality photo/paint program. I have seen good things from resolutions such as 64x64 to 256x256. Today those texture resolutions are old and even a RivaTNT could render textures at that size (albeit very slowly). I actually liked the sig as well. Hopefully he will bring it back (I didn't have a problem with its size).

[Deathmonkey7]

well, did you see those 1 pixel wide transparency spots? if I resize it those will turn out really gay, plus I don't feel like going through the trouble of re-uploading it to photobucket..all just for these forums.. so it's going to stay gone.

also.. we are waaaaayyyyyy off topic.. we need to talk more about how that guy needs to change the way he says stuff *whatever*

[FATAL]

But he already did. His last post was very appropriate.

[{TTr}Uber_soldat]

and he STILL hasnt given us any examples of BETTER games! :p


How about medal of Honor, Pacific Assault?

[jls23]

MOH has always been a very unique experience, but nothing campared to that of doom. D3 still kicks its ass, even though now it doesn't feel so forced.

[Tyberious]

im sure we have our own list of grade A kick ass games.

[jls23]

True. I will TRY not insult other's opinions anymore. MOH never really appealed to me, but MOHPA is really a kickass game, but I definately like Doom3 more. I think.

[FATAL]

Well, if we count ALL fps games, operation flashpoint would be total winner.
If we count only the shooters, DooM 3 is the winner, right before Quake 2

[jls23]

Ah, flashpoint was one of a kind. I always loved using the editor to make fun SP and COOP missions.

[Tyberious]

now I don't dislike any of these mentioned games but everyone has their own list. Well mine always changes according to mood so I donlt really have a favorite. Its been a long time since I played a game so im not entirely sure thats true.

[FATAL]

I think you already said that :p.

[Deathmonkey7]

Well, if we count ALL fps games, operation flashpoint would be total winner.
If we count only the shooters, DooM 3 is the winner, right before Quake 2

Flashpoint is awesomeness *cool*

Ah, flashpoint was one of a kind. I always loved using the editor to make fun SP and COOP missions.

I like to make huge sensless battles that rage on for a few hours *laugh*

[{TTr}Uber_soldat]

MOH has always been a very unique experience, but nothing campared to that of doom. D3 still kicks its ass, even though now it doesn't feel so forced.

have you even tried the mohpa demo yet? and anyways, i think hl2 will kick d3's ass

[ARMYguy]

Flash point isnt all THAT great... I dont see whats so great about it. I played it and put it on my, ghost recon pile... MOHPA seems like a nice game, but the physics were a little choppy compared to games like far cry, painkiller etc. HL2 = good, but no where near godly, i throw that in the duke nukem forever category, as duke says.... "Where is it?"

[FATAL]

I liked operation flashpoint, since you need to think before you move. I doesn't matter if you are a good shooter or not, it's all about the tactics.

I see you like action filled FPS games more.

[ultimatesaiyan605]

im being just like goldeyes;
GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF A BETTER GAME!!!!!!!

but if you dont like D3, then why exactly are you here?
and happy meals? please, you can do better than that.30 of those things cant even fill me up(belive it or not, my stomach can handnle ALOT of stuff(go stomach acid!!!)). dont you get double quarter pounders or big macs? maby the only reason you referred to happy meals is because your a computer freak who learned how to type between 2-7 yrs old and is obbsessed with those puny things....

EDIT: i didnt notice this thread had 5 pages o_O

[jls23]

I never liked big macs or whoppers. Too sloppy.

6 pages, mofo! muhahahahahahaha!

[Wouse101]

....like this game is when you constantly run out of health, equipment...................
.............................and interest!

ok you must be the worst player of FSP's in the world!
Do you play with the mouse? or are you still fumbling with the keyboard?
the only reason you are running out of health is probably:

1.you have no tactics what-so-ever, and are still thinking you are playing the original doom where you can walk into a room and blow the crap out of everything and leave.

2.your just crap

3. not reloading after each battle, (or try and reload your weapon mid battle when really you should just switch weapons) and getting the crap beat outta ya!

4. your just crap
(sorry but you probably are!)

really though, the days of ammo everywhere and all-guns-and-health cheats are long gone! this is a survival horror game with some of the doom elements in it (dark corridors, butt ugly monsters, etc). Doom3 is not about pumping as much lead as possible at your opponent and hoping for the best, its about thinking on your feet being tactical, watching your back cos you never know whats gonna be there!

ever think that its not the game but you! A bad workman ALWAYS blames his tools!

but your right that its your opinion but my friend has a saying:
"There are no such things as stupid opinions. Just stupid people who give thiers!" *whatever*

[Tyberious]

good points there chief but try not to "diss" anyone as it brings in the moderators in and they shut down threads. Overall I agree with your post. I hear the same unvalidated claims about far cry and other games. I think there should be a common sense minimum requirement for games before people should be allowed to play them because some of these people really need to evolve beyond their neanderthol (sp?) roots (better then saying homo-igneramous). I heard people claim crap like this:

"the game doesn't run on my computer (read: third rate 5th generation hardware.) so it must suck!"

well on a duron 700Mhz with 128MB of ram and integrated graphics I don't expect it to at all! I am suprised your computer didn't blow up forcing you to upgrade, hopefully some metal shrapenal will hit you in the head and make you smarter. Open up your wallet because your hardware config smells of must and reaks of slowness, kinda like your logic and conseptual thinking.

Its people like that who also claim that the game must suck because they can't download it that piss me off, along with this guy who made the thread who did a poorly written half assed review. So actually I don't mind you dissing him for being so crass but the mods might. Still, good point mate ;).

[{TTr}Uber_soldat]

i kinda hate that too, but, in my opinion, i like hl2 better than d3

[ToXiCFLUFF]

i kinda hate that too, but, in my opinion, i like hl2 better than d3You've played the final versions of both? No? Then how can you say you like one more than the other?

[ARMYguy]

Why do people like the idea of a butt ugly scientist in a hazard suit with a crowbar anyways... seems like an even stupider thing than the doom story to me.

[MasterOfPuppets]

ahahahaahahahahah

[FATAL]

I didn't like half life's story, but I hate DooM 3's story.

[jls23]

Why do people like the idea of a butt ugly scientist in a hazard suit with a crowbar anyways... seems like an even stupider thing than the doom story to me.

Butt ugly? Heh, they're both fu*king pretty boys. People have called me one, too, but come on! Imagine gordon without the glasses, and you'll see what I mean.

But yea, I hate it when people do that. This Barfhappy dumbass on the FC forums said Doom3's shadows were clever texture effects, and he/she said, "Ever notice how the shadows don't move when you turn the flashlight!?" What a f*cking dumbass. I tried it, and they DO move. They also said that it doesn't have enough specular lighting, when ID toned it down 'cause the models looked too plasticy. Freaking FC dumbass fan-boys.

[ARMYguy]

I agree about fan boys..... And it seems theres a lot more of them now than every before, thanks to these massive, huge ass waiting periods for huge releases. So everyone joins their side and constantly attacks the other sides. This is probably why we didnt see this as much when half life 1 was release and earlier.

[jls23]

Idiots shouldn't even talk about the damn games until they are close to release, and MAYBE they wouldn't happen to be "attacked" by a hacker. Course, with Gabe heading the project, you wouldn't need a hacker, just someone who can type "gaberulz".

[The Undertaker]

You wouldn't need a hacker is right, just a box of donuts. While he's eating you just steal the whole computer. His hands will be covered in jam, creme and a coat of glaze so he couldn't do anything to stop you.

[jls23]

LMFAO@undertaker! No make him choose between the donuts and the comp and... well, you know which one he would choose. Try to take them from him and he may bite.

[FATAL]

I agree about fan boys..... And it seems theres a lot more of them now than every before, thanks to these massive, huge ass waiting periods for huge releases. So everyone joins their side and constantly attacks the other sides. This is probably why we didnt see this as much when half life 1 was release and earlier.

Yup, now that I don't wait for DooM 3 any more, I'm waiting for Hitman: Blood money.

[Wouse101]

BTW.
has the mental defective who started this post got the point yet?

[jls23]

Oh, great. There's ANOTHER hitman. Contracts was an utter disappointment. Hopefull they'll do better this time.

[Tyberious]

naw, I think we blew the crap out of him with our high brow insults and brutally factual commentary. I doubt he would have anything noteworthy to comment after setting himself up as a fool and being crass to the forum members not to mention the mods/ops.

[Doom_Dude]

What does this have to do with Doom 3 anymore?