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Sickpuppy
June 25th, 2004, 10:35 AM
Which guns do you prefer to use against each monster. Assume your not playing any speed runs, -UV Max runs etc, and can take as much time as you need. Whats your favourite weap overall as per the poll?
I prefer to use the Supershottie overall, but for individual bad guys I use one of the following;
Zombiemen, Shotgun Guys -> Shotgun or Chaingun
Heavy Weapon Dudes -> Supershottie or Chaingun
Imps -> Shotgun
Pinkies, Spectres -> Supershottie or beserker fist
Revenants -> Plasma or RL
Cacodemons, Hell Knights/Barons -> supershottie
Pain Elementals -> Plasma or Chaingun
Mancabus -> Supershottie or RL
Arachnotron -> Supershottie, RL or Plasma
Arch-Viles, Cybers, SMM -> Plasma, RL or BFG
Arzca85
June 25th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Here we go:
Zombieman, Shotgun Guys: Shotgun, Chaingun, Super.S, depending on amount.
Chaimgun Dudes: chaingun, shotgun
Imp: Shotgun, Super.s, Chaingun
Demon/Spectre: Super.s, chaingun, Berserk (if available)
Revenant: Super.s, Rocket.l, chaingun (short burtsts, very effective)
Cacos/Hell Knights/Barons: Super.s, Rocket.l.
Pain Elemental: Super.s, Chaingun, Plasma.g
Mancubus: Super.s/RL
Arachnotron: Super.s Rl, chaingun
Arch-Viles: Super.s, Rocket.l
Cyberdemon: BFG, Plasma.g
Spider Mastermind: Super.s, BFG (single shot from close range), Rocket.l
I think I use all weapons a bit, but mostly, it's between, Super Shotgun, Shotgun, Chaingun and Rocket.l. Probably the Super Shotgun will be my fav, even it eats some ammo.
eX_Do0mY
June 25th, 2004, 09:59 PM
The Former Humans: Shotgun
Imps: Shotgun
Demon/Spectre: Berserk Fist, Super Shotgun, Chaingun
Revenant: Super Shotgun, Rocket Launcher, Plasma Gun
Cacodemon: Super Shotgun, Chaingun
Hell Knight: Super Shotgun, Rocket Launcher
Baron of Hell: Plasma Gun, Super Shotgun, Rocket Launcher
Arch Vile: Rocket Launcher, Super Shotgun, Plasma Gun
Mancubus: Rocket Launcher, Super Shotgun
Arachnotron: Super Shotgun, Rocket Launcher, Chaingun
Cyberdemon: Plasma Gun, BFG, Rocket Launcher
Spider Mastermind: Plasma Gun, BFG, Rocket Launcher.
I use the Super Shotgun mostly.
Hate
June 29th, 2004, 09:47 AM
hmm :
Zombieman - pistol, shotti, chaingun, chainsaw
shotgun guy - shotti, supershotti, chaingun
imps - shotti, supershotti, chaingun, chainsaw (pretty cool ^^ )
demon - supershotti (one shot if youre near enough)
spectre
revenant -supershotti, RL, chaingun
cacodemon - RL, PR
helll knight - supershotti, RL (not if there are too many other enemies)
baron - supershotti, PR, RL
arch vile - supershotti (if he is alone) , PR, BFG
mancubus - supershotti, RL
arachnotron - RL, PR, chaingun
cyberdemon - BFG, RL
spider mastermind - supershotti (if there is a hiding place near him)
doomdiz
July 1st, 2004, 11:18 PM
Hm....when playing just plain old doom, my weapon of choice would be the shotgun. Its powerful, and it can remain accurate at large distances.
When I play skulltag, however, that railgun is heavenly. Nothing beats the sound of a pulse and some "crispy-shrively" sounds.....:p
Kain
July 3rd, 2004, 07:02 PM
Rocket Launcher is my weapon of choice. (Escpecially when I can't find the BFG lying around!)
FATAL
July 4th, 2004, 09:07 AM
Hm....when playing just plain old doom, my weapon of choice would be the shotgun. Its powerful, and it can remain accurate at large distances.
You have a point, but chaingun and pistol are 100% accurate if you know how to use them. They always hit the target if you aim right, and shoot right.
Kain
July 4th, 2004, 10:19 PM
Yes, and the Chaingun also gives a paralyzing effect as well! I'd use that if I don't have the Rocket Launcher!
Sickpuppy
July 5th, 2004, 12:35 AM
Yep chaingun against a Revenant, Mancubus, Arachnotron and most demons below them, but it quickly runs out of ammo. I find sometimes your left with the shotgun/ss by default when all other weaps have no ammo.
Xerxes
July 5th, 2004, 09:32 AM
The weapons of the Abbs pack are excellent her also http://doomcity.chez.tiscali.fr/data/Smiley/arme.gif
The magnum is very well for the Zombiemen, Shotgun Guys, Heavy Weapon Dudes and imps
And the Wenchester for the other
illu§ion
July 5th, 2004, 11:06 AM
Zombiemen, Shotgun Guys -> Shotgun
Heavy Weapon Dudes -> Double Shotgun or Rifle
Imps -> Same as Above, but when it comes to having low ammo, I normally hide on a corner, and when they come I use the Chain Saw
Pinkies, Spectres -> ChainSaw
Revenants -> Holy Crap, this is probably the most pain in the ass monster especially the fire "homing missle" :D . I use the Double Shotgun or Rifle or Plasma.
Cacodemons -> Plasma or Rifle
Hell Knights -> Ironically, they just happen to be weaker than the Barons. I use Double Shotgun.
Barons -> Rocket Launcher.
Pain Elementals -> ChainSaw or Rifle or Plasma.
Mancabus -> PlasmaGun or Rifle or Rocket Launcher.
Arachnotron -> Rifle or Rocket Launcher, Double Shotgun
Arch-Viles -> LOL, I always have to be running back and forth to get a clear shot. Double Shotgun
CyberDemon -> Same as above. PlasmaGun
SMM -> I normally run back and forth, so when the SMM hits an enemy; they can start fighting, which gives a lot of time to attack. For example on Doom II on Level 20 "Gotcha!", the SMM and CyberDemon always fight. I forgot what Level was it, where there are TWO SMM on the same place with a bunch of Arachnotron. If the SMM wins, go and use the Invulnerability, and make them both fight with each other.
Hexagon
July 5th, 2004, 11:43 AM
I know that make no differences in the damages but i looooove to shot Imps in the head with shotgun :P
Xerxes
July 5th, 2004, 01:53 PM
Yeah !!! Me too !
But with the jDRP, the head of the imps doesn't explode *confused*
But I believe to have read that DaniJ is going to try to make it
njbair
July 6th, 2004, 06:42 AM
I made a wad once that was just a very big empty room with two Hell Barons, and I beat them with just the regular fist. It was really hard and time consuming, involving lots of strafing and hit-and-run stuff, but it worked!
njbair
July 6th, 2004, 06:45 AM
Incidentally, I hate the BFG. Its novelty wore off very quickly.
And I wish Doom had a railgun :)
Jimi
July 7th, 2004, 05:36 PM
I once killed some archvile with the fist, because I found a berserk pack near the archvile, so I thought I'll see if I can beat the crap out the archvile with my fist. :D
Sickpuppy
July 8th, 2004, 06:11 AM
I made a wad once that was just a very big empty room with two Hell Barons, and I beat them with just the regular fist. It was really hard and time consuming, involving lots of strafing and hit-and-run stuff, but it worked!
Nice!! :D
Now try that out against the Cyberdemon. ;)
Xerxes
July 8th, 2004, 06:18 AM
I already made it with a cyberdemon but one remains there indeed too long. Tried if you don't have anything urgent has make :D
eX_Do0mY
July 8th, 2004, 12:20 PM
And I wish Doom had a railgun :)
Try Skulltag (http://www.doomworld.com/skulltag/)
Xerxes
July 8th, 2004, 01:09 PM
You can also try EDGE with the pack of weapon present on the site of downloading.
There are excellent weapons :D
download EDGE (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/edge/edge-1.28a-win32.zip?download)
I have just noticed that the pack of weapon is not more apparently on the site
I put it on my site, to download it :
right click & select "Save As" (http://doomcity.chez.tiscali.fr/data/gunspc.zip)
eX_Do0mY
July 8th, 2004, 05:06 PM
I made a wad once that was just a very big empty room with two Hell Barons, and I beat them with just the regular fist. It was really hard and time consuming, involving lots of strafing and hit-and-run stuff, but it worked!
Nice!! :D
Now try that out against the Cyberdemon. ;)
It's been done. (ftp://competn.doom2.net:8002/pub/compet-n/doom/tyson/t2m82810.zip)
MacDoomer
July 10th, 2004, 10:59 AM
I prefer the ShotGun and the Chain gun. They are fairly accurate and you can clear a room out rather quickly.
ultimatesaiyan605
July 15th, 2004, 10:45 AM
hmmm, berserker fist is da bomb. who doesnt like tearing abpart demon/former humans with your wedding ring?
*looks over at the hero*
*looks at own ring*
hey, where do you get on of tjose thingS?
Player_of_Doom
July 15th, 2004, 03:59 PM
SSG, 'nuff said.
The Mastermind
July 15th, 2004, 04:53 PM
Chainsaw on them all. That includes Masterminds and Cyberdemons. Heh.
MacDoomer
July 15th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Heh, chainsaw them all?
That kinda reminds me of playing deathmatchs with the only available weapon as fist and Pistol.
It is really disconcerting to be getting the living crap kicked out of you when all the other person has is their bare hands.... hard to blame your suckiness on inappropriate equipment in that case.
*Goes back to imagining pistol battles*
The Mastermind
July 16th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Heh, we gotta set that up sometime, MacDoomer. I played that once back around '99.
MacDoomer
July 16th, 2004, 12:47 PM
We definitely should.
Would be ridiculously fun.
It would be hilarious to be walking up to a door way and seeing two unarmed Marines running across the opening... One running and the other swinging his fists at the other. hahaha.
Oh man, We would have to put screenies of that up on somewhere.
The Mastermind
July 16th, 2004, 01:45 PM
I can't host because of my router, but we do have to try that out. What source port do you use? Right now I have Legacy, ZDoom, Skulltag, and ZDaemon installed.
MacDoomer
July 16th, 2004, 04:26 PM
I personally rely solely on Legacy for my Source Port needs.
The Mastermind
July 16th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Damn - Legacy won't work for multiplayer on my PC (It's really inexplicable). Any chance of using ZDaemon, or is that even out for mac?? I have no idea really.
MacDoomer
July 16th, 2004, 08:14 PM
I don't believe that is out for mac... I will check though. Actually, I think Legacy might be the only Mac source port period from what I can see...
Let me know if anyone knows differently.
devilofdoom
July 25th, 2004, 01:50 AM
I use the double barrel shot gun for every thing besides cyber demons, masterminds & arch-viles where i use a rocket luncher or Bfg.
Wouse101
August 5th, 2004, 03:58 AM
I like my beserk fist, power of a rocket in a punch, not bad at all, use it all the time on pinkies and spectres!
Igor
August 11th, 2004, 08:38 AM
Super shotgun. I love to put pellets in them. *diablo*
Ale
August 11th, 2004, 08:53 PM
i prefer Ssg
vs pistol/shotgun guys : shotgun/chaingun (when lots come)
vs chaingunners : chaingun
vs demons/spectre: chainsaw
vs imps : shotgun
vs revenants : ssg/chaingun/rocket
vs mancubus : ssg/chaingun/rocket (when they are far or in plattforms)
vs pain elemental : chainsaw and chaingun the lost souls/Bfg (when lots come)
vs arch : bfg
vs barons knights : ssg/rockets
vs cacos : chainsaw/ssg/chaingun
vs spiders : ssg/rocket/plasma
vs cybers and masterminds : bfg/rockets
Salty Sam
August 12th, 2004, 12:56 PM
I like to use the shotgun against anything, except the Spider Mastermind and the Cyberdemon. For them, I use the Rocket Launcher.
Gu-X
August 18th, 2004, 10:27 PM
My favorite over-all weapon is the Plasma rifle
jake250
September 1st, 2004, 04:13 PM
The game is fun when I use both shotgun and the chaingun on anything, and for cyberdemon and spidermastermind I use the rocket, it makes the game more "challenging" at some points without making it impossible with nightmare. Doesnt worth for the incredibly hard map!
satanX
September 5th, 2004, 09:59 AM
I use the Super shotgun to kill almost every enemy except the Mancubus, Archvile, SPider Mastermind, Baron Of Hell and the Cyberdemon, i use the rocket launcher to kill those *grin*
Ffabbia
September 5th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Zombiemen, Shotgun Guys : shotgun
Heavy Weapon Dudes : shotgun
Imps : shotgun
Pinkies : chainsaw/beserk
Revenants : super shotgun / chainsaw (in small groups with lots of cover)
Cacodemons : super shotgun
Pain Elementals : chainsaw / chaingun / rocket launcher
Mancabus : super shotgun
Arachnotron : super shotgun
Baron : super shotgun / rockets
Hell Knight : super shotgun
Arch-Vile : super shotgun / plasma / rocket launcher (when I have no cover)
Cyber Demon : plasma or BFG
Spider mastermind : rocket launcher
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