Doom vs Doom 2 vs Pluntona vs TNT vs Doom 64...

[Nightmare Doom]

The question is out of all of those Doom
games which one is the best???

for me I choose Doom 2 because of it's alsome map design, the double barrel shotgun, additional monsters, and more blood shed.

[yabbacard]

I'd say Plutonia is best (design + gameplay), but I've played and replayed Doom2 more than any others - just because it is the game, I suppose. (Doom 1 was, to me, kind of an unfinished prototype.)

[Nightmare Doom]

I was thinking that Plutonia is the best too...

[Arzca85]

Plutonia, level design, challenging gameplay. I think The Ultimate Doom is pretty good as well, 4 episodes of nice levels (e4 maps could have used more different textures though)

[eX_Do0mY]

I liked Plutonia the best. It has that nice level design to it. Utimate Doom was alot simpler than the rest.

[Zoidberg84]

I'd have to say Doom 64, mainly because it was the Doom game that scared me the most. Doom2 and TNT tie for second.

[Doom]

Id have to say Doom 2.

[Kaiser]

Its a close tie between TNT and Plutonia for atmosphere. Doom64 was what really got me into mapping in the first place, and has the best level design I've ever seen.

but of course nothing beats Doom1 :P

[FATAL]

I like the original DooM the best. It has this awesome nostalgia feeling, and it's not really that bad. It's the best!

[Tylenol]

I seem to Like Ultimate Doom the best. It just seemed to be more hellish.

[JamesEightBitStar]

I can't decide. They're all just TOO GOOD, Captain!

Though I personally found Plutonia ungodly hard... I mean you face Arch-Viles IN THE VERY FIRST LEVEL...

[Inga-KX]

Doom Ultimate is a walk in the park compared to Plutonia, even so I feel more atracted to Knee Deep In The Dead, I played the demo so much as a kid that it just got to be my fav.

TNT has it's charms as well, specially on the latest levels.

[eX_Do0mY]

Plutonia was the hardest one. The Archvile labyrinth level (map11?) on UV was very difficult.

[iori]

My favourite doom is doom64, but key things about the other dooms attract me, like the deja-vu i get when I start a new game of ultimate doom, e1.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I've always liked the original Doom the best. But I love them all.

[Inga-KX]

My favourite doom is doom64, but key things about the other dooms attract me, like the deja-vu i get when I start a new game of ultimate doom, e1.

I think Doom 64 made it's enemies look creepy, removing the red from cacos was heresy...

[njbair]

Doom2 is my favorite. Maybe cuz I'm more familiar with it. Even so, every time I get to level 5 I crap my pants.

[njbair]

Somebody told me that Evilution was the same as the Dreamcast version. Is that true? And if so, is Plutonia a platform version as well?

[elbryan42]

I love them all, but overall I love TNT the most. The levels are my faves. A close second is Doom 64 followed by Doom 1, then Doom 2, and in last place Plutonia. Plutonia's maps REALLY sucked. Plutonia was there as a challenge, the maps just don't compare to TNT.

[Ledmeister]

Somebody told me that Evilution was the same as the Dreamcast version. Is that true? And if so, is Plutonia a platform version as well? Hm? Evilution and Plutonia are the two Doom-II based games in the software package Final Doom for PCs (and a heavily watered down version for PlayStation). No Doom game was ever officially/commercially released for the Dreamcast, but there are DIY recipes for burning your own DC port of the original PC games.
But if you want the original Evilution experience in full, play the original on the original equipment.
;)

[MacDoomer]

I only own doom 1 and Ultimate doom. Out of those two I would say Ultimate doom is better, but Doom has the original feel that makes me feel so good haha.

[Xerxes]

My favorite is TNT for his atmosphere

[The Mastermind]

The Ultimate Doom. Nostalgia is a factor because it's the first one I played, but for reasons I can't explain I've always liked the lack of a super shotgun. (???)

[eX_Do0mY]

The super shotgun is my favorite weapon. Powerful enough to take on most of the monsters, at the convinience of shotgun shells.

DooM 64 had the best atmosphere, IMO. I liked the darkness to it.

[The Mastermind]

DooM 64 had the best atmosphere, IMO. I liked the darkness to it.
Almost everyone can agree to that I think. Sometimes on the old TV I first played it on it got kinda hard to see though.

[MacDoomer]

I never did play Doom 64 very much. I just love the feeling of playing it on my PC or Mac so much better than on the consoles.

Although, playing doom on Atari Jaguar was a ton of fun, and on snes, although it sucked, was pretty cool for the time.

[eX_Do0mY]

DOOM64 was the only console Doom I ever played.

[The Mastermind]

Same here. But it was pretty impressive IMO.

[Xerxes]

DOOM64 was the only console Doom I ever played.

The PlaySatation version of Doom is not worth anything. Doom64 is the best version console of doom ;)
On PlayStation doom is a lot less to retail, a lot less difficult, a lot less effective,... :(

[MacDoomer]

I always felt the best Doom console experience was the Atari Jagaur version... it had full screen graphics, decent frame rate, good sound and network play.

[Xerxes]

hm... It would be brilliant if you could pass us some screenshots

[Arzca85]

Another good point in Doom 64 is that you can't save during the game. (as in PSX Doom games) Which brings some extra challenge on the game and it's challenging maps.

PSX Final Doom, even it has nice levels, it has a serious lack of boss monsters, such spider mastermind can't be found from the game, and there could have been more tougher monsters. Mancubusses are very rare, they can be found only from one level, and same thing with Barons, enemies are mostly between Hell Knights, Revenants (they move too slow), and little monsters, chaingunners, sergeants, imps etc. But I think PSX Final Doom is a bit more harder than the original PSX Doom. Multiplayer is also great, especially cooperative, but DM sucks for some reason, I didn't like that, maybe levels were too large.

[Salty Sam]

I like TNT because of the cool level design and the music. I've never played Doom 64 because I don't have a Nintendo 64.

[Nightmare Doom]

I like TNT because of the cool level design and the music. I've never played Doom 64 because I don't have a Nintendo 64.


There is a DOOM 64: Absolution TC for the PC which you can get it right here

http://www.fileplanet.com/files/130000/134181.shtml

[Nuxius]

PSX Final Doom, even it has nice levels, it has a serious lack of boss monsters, such spider mastermind can't be found from the game, and there could have been more tougher monsters. Mancubusses are very rare, they can be found only from one level, and same thing with Barons, enemies are mostly between Hell Knights, Revenants (they move too slow), and little monsters, chaingunners, sergeants, imps etc. But I think PSX Final Doom is a bit more harder than the original PSX Doom. Multiplayer is also great, especially cooperative, but DM sucks for some reason, I didn't like that, maybe levels were too large.I never did care for the PSX version of Final Doom. It was just too stripped down; over half the levels from the PC version were gone.

Sure, not all the levels made it into the original PSX version (of Doom and Doom II) either, but it wasn't enough to destroy it. The awesome atmosphere won out on that one.

The saddest thing is that the Super NES version was the most accurate conversion level and music wise. It was the only one to have the original PC version music (Jaguar version didn't have music during the levels, and the 32X version was a mess). It was also the only console version to feature Slough of Despair and the original Hell Keep. Also the Jag and 32X versions didn't have either the Cyberdemon or the Spider Mastermind, unlike the GBA, PSX and SNES versions.

[iori]

I never did play Doom 64 very much. I just love the feeling of playing it on my PC or Mac so much better than on the consoles.

The only way to actually play doom64 is on the n64. The TC is really good, but I consider it more of an 'incentive' to go out and buy a damn n64 just for that game. Its worth it.

[Gu-X]

Only played Doom(Ultamate doom) Doom II and 64. I gotta go with 64 with 2 in close second. (I like 64 because its actualy scary and the monsters look more realistic)

p.s. (I bought doom 64 just two days ago so I havent got that far in it)

[Zoidberg84]

p.s. (I bought doom 64 just two days ago so I havent got that far in it)

If Doom 64 scares you now, just wait 'till you get to level 13. That level used to give me nightmares.

[Kain]

I liked Doom 2 the most. I found Plutonia too hard for me, especially that one level, Go 2 It. I liked the levels 18: Courtyard, 27: Monster Condo, and 29: The Living End the most.

[Arzca85]

If Doom 64 scares you now, just wait 'till you get to level 13. That level used to give me nightmares.

Yeah, I remember when I played that level for first time, the music was very scary, and not to mention the dark atmosphere. The library place was probably the most spookiest part of the level.

[Gu-X]

Damn I want to play it now =/ Alas someone is barrowing the 64 ><

[Calamity]

The level design of Plutonia is definately my favorite, but when it comes to the whole package it still belongs to Ultimate Doom as it took the orignal that we love and tacked a whole new episode on the end of it.

[doomjedi]

Doom 1 is the best, real classic, they have put the most effort in level design. But then again, I'm not objective playing doom 1 much more then the other games, from the time Doom Shareware was released...

[Arzca85]

Ultimate Doom Episode 4 hasn't got really that great level design in my opinion, most of the maps use mostly few "main" textures. E4M3 is a good example, wood texture covered all over the map, obviously the levels are meant to offer tough gameplay. Episode 4 is a good challenge though.

[satanX]

Okay here we go... Plutonia 1st, Ultimate Doom 2nd *knownot* , Doom 64 3rd for the amazing music and skys especially the one in Eye of the Storm, Doom II 4th, Evilution 5th

[TheDeadGuy]

I like pretty much all Doom games, I prefer the PSX version of [Doom/Final Doom] over any other version, a feeling I feel different from the PC version, like a "darker, lonelier" feeling. I found the Final Doom for the PC, the TNT and Plutonia had many of the tougher monsters (Revenant, Mancubus, are a couple of what I mean) overdone in places, especially the Chaingunners, as an example, kind of like in levels Metal and Stronghold, while in Doom 2, I found they were placed better, but thats just my opinion, I loved many of the levels from those two packs, mainly though, the ones that were chosen, like for the Playstation version of Final Doom, as this may sound strange, I liked how rare the Mancubi were in the Final Doom Psx (one level only). But being that I play the PC version of Doom many times, never tiring, but still, I am more of a Playstation Doom kind of guy :).

[Inga-KX]

Ultimate Doom Episode 4 hasn't got really that great level design in my opinion, most of the maps use mostly few "main" textures. E4M3 is a good example, wood texture covered all over the map, obviously the levels are meant to offer tough gameplay. Episode 4 is a good challenge though.

It's one of my favs, I believe it creates a brand new evil atmosphere different to the previous episodes :)

[DoomedAce]

1. Ultimate Doom
2. Evilution
3. Plutonia
4. Doom II
5. Doom 64 (I never played it, so meh...)

[Inga-KX]

I've played Doom64 and I still 100% agree with your list.

[FATAL]

I prefer original DooM over Ultimate DooM.

[Inga-KX]

I prefer original DooM over Ultimate DooM.

That makes no sense.

[Catsy]

Actually, I have to agree--I much prefer the first three episodes. Episode 4 has very cunningly designed levels that are obviously designed to challenge the player, but they don't really have any kind of thematic coherence, pacing, or visual artistic value. They're just pure technique and they bore me.

[The Undertaker]

But the 1st 3 episodes are still in Ultimate Doom. Unless that added switch in e1m1 just ruins the whole game for you.

[Catsy]

Heh, no, but I think the point of distinguishing Doom from Ultimate Doom /is/ to focus on E4. Sure, there are minor tweaks throughout the game, but the fundamental difference is the new episode.

And I'm just not that keen on that new episode. Hence, I prefer the original Doom over Ultimate Doom.

[Inga-KX]

Still, that just stupid, there's no change for ending scenes or something, you play the first 3 episodes and start the remaining one if you want so. Having the 4th available doesn't affect the others. It's ok if you say "I dislike Thy Flesh Consumed" but "I prefer original Doom over Ultimate Doom"...no sense for me.

[FATAL]

Inga, there is the very original DooM, without the fourth episode.
I'm not sure if you can get it anywhere now though...

[Inga-KX]

I have it and there's nothing special about it besides the intro screen which doesn't display the "Ultimate".

http://ingakx.100megsfree5.com/Original_Doom.jpg

[ToXiCFLUFF]

I must say, I actually really liked E4. It didn't have the thematic consistency, but I thought the level design was overall pretty awesome (better than most of E3 anyway). As well as the new sky, which I thought was really nice.

[Inga-KX]

Every Doom episode has it's charms, they are all different but If I had to get rid of one, it would be E2.

[FATAL]

I have it and there's nothing special about it besides the intro screen which doesn't display the "Ultimate".

http://ingakx.100megsfree5.com/Original_Doom.jpg

And does your "original" DooM have the fourth episode?

[Inga-KX]

Are u nuts?, it's the original, not Ultimate, just 3 episodes.

[psyren]

I first experienced Doom with Nintendo64, and very dissapointed after I got a PC and could play the originals. Lights down and full stereo sound, Doom64 is more frightening and beautiful than any game ever! (my opinion anyway.)

Ah! Catsy! maybe you are the one that should head up this new project!?!?!?! http://forums.newdoom.com/showthread.php?t=24803

[Inga-KX]

Doom64 wasn't Doom to me, it looked great (years later Jdoom made a re-masterpiece of it) but it didn't feel like Doom, specially due the horrible sprite replacements, but basically, if it was your first Doom ever, then I'd understand why you like it that much, all those games we are introduced to for the very first time, hold certain amount of "magic" :)

[FATAL]

Inga, now I can see what you mean. You see, the ultimate doom has a bit different E1M1, the original one doesn't have the switch to open the wall in the first room.

[Inga-KX]

U got it *thumbs*

[MacDoomer]

My first Doom was Doom on DOS.... heck yah... oh the sheer beauty of its 3d/2d wannabe engine...

Makes me wanna cry...
*runs away to cry*

[psyren]

Doom64! So much darker and more frightening than anything else! Sprites and sounds scared me personally, more than any other form of Doom.

I think that port brought more people in than most of the hardcore can understand!

[Catsy]

Me? Hayall no. I'll happily playtest, but my ability to consistently devote time to and produce results for artistic projects has not heretofore been one of my strong points. :> It's why I don't do this for a living yet.

[psyren]

Well, I just really play. and that's what it is because all about playin. (IMO)

Doom 64 scared the hell outta me!. Mapper can only try to reproduce that terror!

[psyren]

We do this for free, so unless you find some new game who will pay you for new maps, you're kinda lost and just like the rest of us I imagine?

[psyren]

And your time is valuable! but got to agree on free exchange rate and not Euros or Dollars, Maybe something with even MORE value! Like your time?

[Nemesis]

I like all of the Dooms equally, but if I had to choose for the sake of this thread, it would be in this order... :)

The Plutonia Experiment
Evilution
Doom 64
The Master Levels Of Doom II
Doom II
The Ultimate Doom

[doomrulez]

for me DooM 1 is the best