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XDelusion
March 30th, 2004, 02:45 AM
http://fusoya.cg-games.net/lm/dwshots.html

WOW!

Easy to use!

ToXiCFLUFF
March 30th, 2004, 05:01 AM
That looks better than any of the ones I've tried.

Some other rom tools: http://www.romhacking.com/utils/leveled.php

XDelusion
March 30th, 2004, 01:23 PM
I used an old SMB editor for DOS a few years back and it was pretty much a guessing game, since then I figured ROM hacking would always be annoying...

...well not anymore, most of this is easy, and some of it requires a bit of learning, but one thing is for sure, ANYONE can pick it up and get to work right away!

Here's a forum for it:

http://board.acmlm.org/forum.php?id=8

DooMAD
April 1st, 2004, 02:36 PM
I've made a few new levels. It took a while to work out the secondary level entrances / exits for the secret areas, but now most of it makes sense.

XDelusion
April 1st, 2004, 07:13 PM
I'm learning slowly but surely. One thing is for sure, aside of Starwars Legacy, I'll definatly be releasing a Super Mario World project as well as one for Beats Of Rage...

...though the BOR one has yet to be started due to the fact that it's just a beat em up.

DooMAD
April 5th, 2004, 11:30 AM
....I'll definatly be releasing a Super Mario World project....

I might do that too. I've changed the palette a bit now, so the "overworld" map looks nicer. I might try moving some of the map things around as well, just so it doesn't look so much like the original.

XDelusion
April 5th, 2004, 12:52 PM
Awsome!

I've found one minor complaint so far.

In orer to change the behavior of certain things in the game you have to know Assembly, which for me is not going to happen. Regardless there is still so much you can do without it.

The Undertaker
April 5th, 2004, 05:46 PM
/me opens up "Assembly for 65c816 for Dummies"

doomjedi
April 6th, 2004, 05:02 AM
I'm learning slowly but surely. One thing is for sure, aside of Starwars Legacy, I'll definatly be releasing a Super Mario World project as well as one for Beats Of Rage...

...though the BOR one has yet to be started due to the fact that it's just a beat em up.

What is StarWars Legacy? As a StarWars fan I'm dying to know...
Is it a DOOM TC to starwars?
And how about doom version of super mario?

XDelusion
April 6th, 2004, 11:36 AM
I considered a DOOM version of Super Mario, infact I've considered a DOOM Beats Of Rage as well, but scrapped both ideas.
The Beats Of Rage project, much like the Starwars Legacy (Starwars on the DOOM Legacy engine) project will feature textures and characters ripped from the Jedi Knight series on the PC, mostly from Outcast and Jedi Academy.

As for the Starwars Legacy project itself...

...well my host vanished so the page is not up any longer for the moment, and of course I am waiting on my RAM from Ebay so I can finish building my new PC, which is required of course to finish the project, at which point a new page will be put up.
The goal of Starwars Legacy is to emulate the Dark Forces: Jedi Knight series as best as possible, while at the same time adding in my own personal touches. That is not to say that the experience will be EXACTLY the same, or that the levels will be either, rather the idea is to mimmic the basic concept, give it plenty of platforming, huge rooms, lots of horizontal as well as vertical exploration, force powers ect. I've got a lot of work done thus far, but since my other PC died a few months ago, I've been at a stand still, things will be in progress again soon.

DooMAD
April 6th, 2004, 11:37 AM
Here's some comparison shots:

Original:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/smwold.gif

After Several Hours of Butchering:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/smwnew.gif

doomjedi
April 6th, 2004, 12:45 PM
I considered a DOOM version of Super Mario, infact I've considered a DOOM Beats Of Rage as well, but scrapped both ideas.
The Beats Of Rage project, much like the Starwars Legacy (Starwars on the DOOM Legacy engine) project will feature textures and characters ripped from the Jedi Knight series on the PC, mostly from Outcast and Jedi Academy.

As for the Starwars Legacy project itself...

...well my host vanished so the page is not up any longer for the moment, and of course I am waiting on my RAM from Ebay so I can finish building my new PC, which is required of course to finish the project, at which point a new page will be put up.
The goal of Starwars Legacy is to emulate the Dark Forces: Jedi Knight series as best as possible, while at the same time adding in my own personal touches. That is not to say that the experience will be EXACTLY the same, or that the levels will be either, rather the idea is to mimmic the basic concept, give it plenty of platforming, huge rooms, lots of horizontal as well as vertical exploration, force powers ect. I've got a lot of work done thus far, but since my other PC died a few months ago, I've been at a stand still, things will be in progress again soon.

Hei, I'm a great StarWars fan, the idea of StarWars TC for legacy is soooo cool!!! I thought of it myself from time to time. Need any help? Doomjedi is here for you (i'm very busy with my cDoom project (see the signature link for more info about that) but yet...). So cool...Are you a StarWars fan as well? I can't wait for it to come out. I can do lowres sprite animation, like death animation and such...can that help you? For cDoom project I animated a lot of doomguy actions he never had before...

XDelusion
April 6th, 2004, 02:08 PM
DOOM Dude: Looks good, can't wait to try some of your levels!


I know I could definatly use some help from a talented artist and or map maker, but until I get my new PC put together, I won't know where I am. Once I get everything set back up, and get back on track I'll definatly be up for a little help, that would be great! :)

Your project looks quite interesting, I am downloading a beta right now. I'm also interested in seing how well that Game Construction kit you are using pans out.

As for Starwars, yes I am a HUGE fan! I'm don't know EVERYTHING Starwars, but I know enough about the different anliens, planet histories, weapons, ships, ect to be on the nerdy side. My favorite Starwars game of all time is Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight, and my favorite movie is The Empire Strikes Back. Not a huge fan of the prequals, they are a discrace to the series, but still semi-enjoyable.


...metaclorians my ass!!!

XDelusion
April 6th, 2004, 02:41 PM
CDOOM looks great, but on this 500Mhz 128 RAM based PC it seems to run a tad slow. I'll check it out again when my new PC is together. So far I am impressed.

doomjedi
April 8th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Thanks, XDelusion :)
I'm a great StarWars fan (for like 15 years now I think...), and I know a lot about it as well. My favourite movie is also Empire Strikes Back, that movie is the best! :) :) I'm also a member of the StarWars.com site (under the Hoth Jedi nick...). Have you seen the leaked Episode 3 behind the scenes?
BTW I don't like prequels too much as well, but yet it's StarWars, the same great story, so I at least "accept" them.

About cDoom - Iit's made in Game Maker, you can use that program as well, very easy and fast to use and you create cool games... Wanna help me with cdoom in the future?
How about using the cdoom engine to make a cStarWars TC? ;)

DooMAD
April 8th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Have you seen the leaked Episode 3 behind the scenes?

I have, damn that's cool. I'm also a StarWars fan and I can't wait for EPIII. I know TPM wasn't all that brilliant, but AOTC was great and I'm certain EPIII will be even better.

XDelusion
April 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Jedi: I'm interested in learning the Game Construction kit and have a copy sitting here on my hard drive, I"ve just been pre-occupied with everything else lately. We'll see, I think doing something Starwars with it would be great, I'll just have to get a feel for the kit sometime.


My two main sets of complaints with the prequals are are:

A: The acting was horrible for Episode 1, and only improved a bit in episode two, though I do like Count Dooku (Christopher Lee, oldest horror movie vertan alive), the Emporer, and of course Obi-Wan. Aside of them, I though everyone else was so so, and vader was wayyyyyy too tiny and whiney to be the hulking shadow that Vader is. Anikin of part 1 was a DORK, and seemed too damn happy for a slave, and too damn Disney for Starwars.

B: Lucas is wrecking the extended universe books by changing the origins of the Death Star, prolly the origins of Chewbacca, ect. Makes me sick!

Heading out to look for leak.

doomjedi
April 9th, 2004, 04:38 AM
About the Game Maker - I can PM you the cDoom project file (if you want) so you can take it apart to see how it's made. I think that would make your learning much faster, there is nothing like an example to understand the game creation with the Game Maker.
About StarWars:
I didn't like the episode one, especially because of the damn "too not starwars", "mood ruiner" Jar Jar... Damn I hate this character. StarWars has certain mood, and Jar Jar is sooo not StarWars-type...! Beside that the script was Okay, but the biological explanation of the Force is awful and ruins all of the mythology of the Force. The Darth Maul was to easy to beat as a student of the great Emperor himself. I think that the young Skywalker looks okay, a kid is a kid, you know...what, you wanted a Addams kid type? The beauty of any film and any story is the slow proccess that the character go through, from light to dark and the opposite, so anakin being sweet boy as a kid is really okay, him being dark from the beginnig would be boring and stupid.

Episode 3 leaked footage is great, and that movie will be the greatest StarWars movie ever!! Oscar 100%. As I read all the spoilers of the episode 3, I can tell you exactly every scene and what is in it... :D And it looks great. StarWars real mood that we like is the dark mood, and episode 3 will be starwars classical dark and moody, with a lot of going on. death, pain and such...

About origin of a Death Star and such, I really like it, and 100% disagree with you. I wish (or in other words- If I would be George Lucas), I would do StarWars movies on a script I make and I think will be the best, without the script being affected at all by all the expanded universe novels that bunch of people wrote. If they wanted to make money out of StarWars idea making StarWars based books - it's okay, no prob, but Me as the scriptor of StarWars that wouldn't and shouldn't bother, I have to go with my own ideas. About the expanded universe official data on the starwars.com itself - that can be updated - it's not good to ignore a cool scripting idea for StarWars just of fear to be needed to update the site.

About episode II - I liked it better, escpecially all the romantic forbidden love plot added to starwars (such a romantic entrance to the Arena, so cool...). The script is great, scenes and worlds are impessive, music is great as always. The flaws of this movie as I think - damn stupid scene of "small kids telling the wise Kanobi a simple explanation on the Kamino planet", lack of the scene of anakin's mother being kidnapped and other important scenes, lack of scenes of Anakin and Palpatine together and the start of their bond(they are together less than a minute), Anakin showing his dark side in a very not natural way, like GL had to put those number of dark moments and didn't know where, putting them randomly, in an unbelievable way and acting and such...

XDelusion
April 9th, 2004, 02:56 PM
The thing with young Anakin is this:

Yes he should not have been evil when he was young, but at the same time he did not need to be so Disney you wanted to punch him.

Being a young slave on a hot and dry planet for one would make you a little less cheerful and pleasant. Granted his master treated him pretty good because he was so good with mechanics and electronics. Though he was a little too advanced for a child of 9. Being able to fix a little robot is one thing, but building your own pod racer and racing it is another.
Second of all he was the only kid on the planet with the Force, and he had no idea what the Force was, he only knew he was different. I would figure that that would make him some what of an outcast and a lost sheep. I was expecting a child of MANY burdens, a child looking for someone or something to show him the way, a child that reflected Pink Floyd's album Dark Side Of The Moon.
You see in this way, he would grow up perhaps aspiring to be good, but at the same time he would be very lost and easily mis-lead. Also his attatchment to his mother did not seem that strong in the first movie when he left her...

...I would have altered that a bit, and turn it into more of a struggle for him to leave, have in be separated from his mother in a manner that was not neccessarily the Jedi Counsel's fault, but in a way that young Anakin could find to blame them in his own heart.

In other words there NEEDED to be Tragedy in Anakin's young life. Fortunatly they made up for that a bit in Ep. 2.

As for turning the Force into a sceince...

...Lucas totally needs shot in the head, unless that is an understanding of the Force on the lowest of levels, and a deeper more mystical explanation that trancends thinking comes along.

JarJar sucks, he was not funny at all. R2 and C3P0 are not funny any longer. Before C3P0 was sort of like a pansy flaming homo or something, now he is just a dork with dumb one liners such as "what a drag" or "I'm so confused".

I much prefered his sceen in Ep 6 where he yells at the storm troopers on Endor and says in very much a flaming homo voice,"yoo hoo, are you looking for me!?!?!" He was such a pansy, I loved him then!
Also with the droids it is TOO coincidental that Anakin built C3P0, and that those very same droids had an important role in the prequals. There were MANY droids, Lucas did not neccessarily have to shove them into the prequals like that. Besides did not Ben say in Ep. 4 that he did not recall owning any droids?!?! Granted he did not own them, but sure he enough he woudl have recognized him and the droids would have known who he was.

And finally the expanded Universe, yes the books were made to make money, but then again Lucas said straight up that he is "marketing" the prequals to target audiences. He is not making prequals out of passion for the art's sake, no he is marketing. Same diff.
Also when the authors (and great authors some of them were) were getting the rights to write Starwars sequals Lucas told them that there stories could NOT conflict with the original trilogy's story in ANY way!
That being said you would think that Lucas had a lot of respect for the Starwars story. Infact he deemed the Expanded universe as official. So why the heck do that, then later come back and wreck it!??!

Another key point to note is that The Empire Stikes back was NOT written by Lucas. Perhaps that's why it was so good!?!? :)

Another thing, back when Lucas was a young and inspired director, he was not as big, popular and rescpected as he is now. He was just a young guy with a passion (which he seems to have lost sight of). Back then the people working on the film with him were not afraid to say,"George, that seen is gay, lets scrap it and do it this way". And of course George being new to it all, would comply. Now he is in full control and no one tells him what to do. I think that has a lot to do with the mess we got as well.

Edit: Oh ya, and anther thing, the classic films used to make me cry. I don't cry often at all during a movie, but those used to and still do when I'm in the right mood, kinda get to me.
It was a sad moment when Organa lost Solo to vader, it was sad when Solo's old buddy betrayed him, but a great feeling when he tried to make up for it (a theif with a concious). ect.

These new characters do not move me in that wey, for one they are not presented so that you can get real close to them and feel almost like you know them, and for seconds some of them such as Anakin seems to trendy or something, it's like he just dropped out of NSync or some Nu-Metal band, covered up the tatoos and is in this film to swoo the ladies.
Luke was not a lady's man, he was just a normal guy who you actually felt sorry for. If luke had turned to the Dark Side, we would feel a pit in our stomache, if Anikin turns bad, well then he turns bad, we don't feel a sence of loss. Get what I'm saying?

DooMAD
April 9th, 2004, 03:37 PM
Another key point to note is that The Empire Stikes back was NOT written by Lucas. Perhaps that's why it was so good!?!? :)


He did write it, but didn't direct it like he did with ANH.

doomjedi
April 9th, 2004, 11:59 PM
About some of the points you brought up:

Expanded universe: yes, Lucas told them not to contradict the StarWars movies ALREADY MADE, but they can contradict the prequel scripts Lucas want to make, and I would still like to see Lucas vision of what went there, and not some writers I don't know. Of coarse, I didn't mention that, but Lucas can take an ideas from anybody, including the novel writers, but the "filter" for what idea fits StarWars well and which not must be still Lucas. All I say is that he doesn't have to automatically stick with what the novels tell, it's his movie and his vision.

Maybe young Anakin is too sweet and jolly, but I don't see any problem with it. The scene of him leaving his mother is very touchy and makes you cry, it's very not easy for Anakin and is very sad. You say nothing bad happened to young Anakin - how about leaving his mother in a very young age, and not just leaving - leaving her in slavery! Leaving her all alone, without a husband, without anyone. And I don't think Anakin could blame the Jedi for that anyway, as all of the episode 1 is under a sign of FATE, DESTINY "Only he can help you", 'he meant to help you" - that even non-Jedi mother says and feels, and Anakin feels that as well. So he can only Destiny to blame. Anakin as 'The one who will bring balance to the Force" is "managed' by destiny, and that how that should be anyway, and he feels that having the Force and all. How could that be differently scripted?

I think R2 and 3PO are funny and made nicely in the prequel. 3PO learnes about human behavour and the world as a proccess, he is programmed to learn and not to know everything from the beginnig. So in the prequels 3PO is still "young", and can't be as developed as in the original trilogy.

About feeling for the characters - I think Anakin is well-acted, of cause the plot is faster , event pass your eyes in the speed of light (not like in the original trilogy), so it's harder to really connect to the character. Lucas try to tell too much in only 3 movies, he should have made a longer prequel. You feel like the story is telling only some of the major events and scenes, like a bit long trailer to the "real" prequel. So I think here is the problem. I think as Anakin becomes arrogant, darker and more angry it's understandable that you like him less. Luke was good all the way, and Anakin is going through "turning dark" process, that's different. I agree that Mark Hamill was better Luke than Hayden is Anakin. Maybe even Mark would have been better as Anakin. Only maybe, cause Mark looked to sweet to p[lay well the darker Anakin.

XDelusion
April 10th, 2004, 04:59 PM
At least someone still thinks Lucas is sane...

I for one, do NOT.

doomjedi
April 11th, 2004, 12:04 AM
Well, I'm not that much fan of Lucas, and I don't think Lucas is doing a good job, especially with the prequels, and I do think that me (and many other guys) would do his job much (MUCH)better. But what can I do, he invented StarWars as we know it, it's his vision and his world, so he should do what he wants (I didn't say he shouldn't check all the good script ideas there are to put some it, if he thinks it's fit his vision).

iori
April 11th, 2004, 12:20 AM
I dont even consider the prequels a part of the Star Wars universe, its too fucked up. Just the original Trilogy for me :/.

XDelusion
April 11th, 2004, 09:52 AM
That's pretty much my feelings iori, I like to think of it more as Starwars Gaiden. Or a Starwars what if. Like what if C3P0 ran around trying to be funny, instead of being funny without meaning too, or what if Starwars was marketted towards children and young teens instead of old school 30 something (or close to it) fans. :)

doomjedi
April 11th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Well, I do agree with you that the prequals suck. I wish I would givin a chance to make those. Yet I think that the script is okay, just the way it's made to the screen and told sucks.
I would like nice twists, like Anaking jumping into lava trying to kill himself during the fight with Kanobi, when he sees that dark side is taking over him and he knows what Force he will bring that to the Dark Side. That would be a nice twist. That how it would be if I was directing StarWars. yet he fails to kill himself, he is saved and finally turned to the dark side by the news Padme dies. So vote doomjedi for StarWars directing ;)
I could make StarWars really dark and impressive, interesting and full of twists.

XDelusion
April 11th, 2004, 05:19 PM
I really hope part 3 is dark, it should be Darker than Empire, but we'll see.

Upon reading the books I do find them more enjoyable than the movies, I just wished I would have read them before watching the film, now I'm stuck with images of bad acting when I read it. :/

I've heard the rumor that Speilberg has been begging Lucas for the rights to do Starwars 7-9 since Lucas has decided against making those films now.
Apparently for years Lucas has been denying the rights to Speilburg, but according to rumor he recntly changed his mind. Would be interesting...
...though I think Speilburg seems a bit afraid to kill off main characters in his movies.

If Starwars 7-9 were made though they could easily set them about 30 or 40 years in the future and everyone would be about the right age.

On a final word, does it not seem like Lucas did not actually write a complete script for the 1st 3 starwars films until recently? If he had, there would not be so many loop holes one would figure. :/

doomjedi
April 11th, 2004, 11:01 PM
Part 3 will be dark, from all the spoilers I know (and I know too many of them), It will be, Lucas himself said it will be very dark. I think episode 3 will be at least better that the 1 and 2, and maybe even more than that.

Yes, the script is not bad, it's interconnected and logical. But it seems that when you seek for the wider target audence, you do too many things that ruin it all up, between the script and the screen.

Yes, killing main characters on screen is great, and Lucas is brave and made the right decision about that. There are too few movies like that, will death of main characters, not happyends and such. I like such movies, they are 10 levels more deep, realistic, touchy and impressive, I would make my moives like that. All the others afraid to do that, but maybe Spielberg will get into the "StarWars mood" and let's give the man a chance and not blame him for thing he didn't do yet. Lucas, if you hear me - let me direct the movies 7-9, please!! I'll do much better :)

Yet I don't see what can be interesting in episodes 7-9. All the beauty of StarWars is Anakin and his story, and without it that should be even less interesting for me than the prequels. StarWars story ends too well, the cirlce is closed, the story is closed nicely, it's like making Mask 2, which was a stupid idea, especially without Jim Carrey. I'm doot wait that much for episodes 7-9, after anakin's death I don't care about StarWars story. I would like to see more StarWars movies about the Clone War period, that has fallen between episodes 2 and 3. And I would like to see a pre-prequel about ancient wars of Sith and the Jedi, that could even add better and deeper understanding what lies beneath the original StarWars story, what the Sith really are and what's the history of Sith and the Jedi's.

About the scrpits - I think it's an all known fact that StarWars scripts are written before each StarWars movie, and to avoid leak and such is finished just a few days before a movie starts to shoot, also to avoid leak, each actor get's only "his" part of the script, his dialogs. I hope I'm not making a spoiler here ;)
But Lucas does has a vision of all 3 movies from the start, about what major events he'll put in each movie, just not detailed and made as script - only as major story ideas and keypoint, that sometimes even change during their way to the script. But the script is written as I say before each movie. I remember Lucas telling even before he started shooting the prequels that a first movie will be about Anakin being little boy, the second will have many nice battle scenes (not to worry) but the main script idea will be a great love story and everything will be around it, and a third episode will be dark, veeeery dark, even too dark for many people. So at least that he knew from the beginning. ;)

Did you notice BTW that Matrix stole all the StarWars idea? Too many parallels for a coincidence.. In the first movie a "Kanobi/Qiu Gon Ginn" come to save a "Chosen one by the profecy" and take him into a Journey gainst evil controlling the world, The first movie has a closed sub-story with good guys win the major battle although the "big", "final" victory is not achived and evil still rules the world. Also that 'Kanobi" almost dies at the first episode in battle with a great villain (well, they do afraid to kill their main characters in all the other movies, StarWars is the only Saint :) Otherwise "Kanobi" would die in the first episode of Matrix...
Second and the third Matrix has a story that doesn't have sub-ended plot and is really two halfs of one mega-episode. The second movie endes bad, with main character hurt. All the second episode feels the ESB (Matrix evil dudes strike bad...), there is a hidden rebel base that is under attack, there is "Luke" flying fast to save his friend from very far distance (like another planet)... I'm just starting... I'm too lazy, I'll stop here... About Matrix revolutions - just try to make parallels yourself, it's not too hard ;)

XDelusion
April 12th, 2004, 02:18 AM
Well the Matrix set out to create a modern myth. Before it came Starwars which was also constructed with that in mind and in doing so, both Director's and or Screenplay writers drew upon classic mythos for inspiration. It is no surprise that Lucas would create a movie with this intent considering that he was very close friends with Joseph Campbell.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1577312090/ref=pd_sim_books_4/104-7855808-4491965?v=glance&s=books

So really what we have is an old American tradition, but I prefer Starwars over Matirx any day, though Matrix with Animatrix included is still VERY kool, though I feel part 1 deleverd the best message in the tradition of the Zen Buddhist. Part 2 delt more with Time, Space, Destiny, and manifest Destiny. Animatrix was more or less a documentary of the history of the Matrix, the sociology of the hive, and the psychology of the hive drones. And finally part 3 was pretty much the answer to part 2's perplexing questions on time, destiny and the like, as well as an answer to what the humans and machines are going to do next...

As for Starwars, you have once again the Zen Buddhist thing going on, you have the Japanese Swordsmen, you have Love, Humor, Understanding, Wisdom, ect. It was a movie that contained it all, and contained a Mythos that I grew up on since 79 when I first saw A New Hope. One which has influenced my life in so many ways!
Now for some reason George dumped the Mysticism in exchance for Physical Sceince. Though he kept the Knights code from the East. Also he delivered us a prodical Son, and a Virgin birth which barrows is roots from the Jesus Mythos, which barrows its story from the various religions and cults who came before it from the Persians, the Romans, the Greeks, ect who in turn had stolen a breif prototype from the Blacks in pre-Egypt.

It all goes full circle.

As for stories where the fit hits the shan, I totally agree, they typically are darker, it gives the story much more resonance and spirit, something that so long as done in good taste and not in a typical hollywood plastic and predictable manner, really reaches out and grabs you by the heart as if you had shared the actor's tragedy yourself (greek play).

I've got a crapload of movies with unhappy endings, all of course inspired by the works of H.P. Lovecraft...

Massive Horror collection.

DooMAD
April 12th, 2004, 12:56 PM
As much as I hate to turn the conversation away from StarWars, getting back to topic, how are your Mario mods coming along?

I've replaced all the levels up to the second castle and I changed that boring "Special World" map into a cool lava type area. After you complete the Special World levels, the rest of the game map changes to a lava theme via another pallete shift.

It should be done in a few weeks, providing I don't get bored and start doing something else. :)

XDelusion
April 12th, 2004, 02:01 PM
I've been working on mine on and off. So I've still got a lot to do yet, I can say this, when it is done, it will be VERY retro Mario, and will be void of Ghost Houses, Capes, and the like and will rather be a series of levels followed by castles and there bosses. The more I got into this program, the more I desired to keep it as close the the original Mario games as possible, while at the same time throwing in a few of the kool features of Mario world.

DooMAD
April 12th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Ah, so quite the opposite of mine then. I like my capes and ghost houses. :D

It's a shame there isn't a wider selection of music to choose from, for both the levels and the overworld map. Even with the option to overwrite the level header, the only other music you can select is the Bowser final battle music.

XDelusion
April 12th, 2004, 04:31 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love all Mario titles, ecspecially Yoshi's Island and Mario 3. It's just that I always wanted to see another retro style Mario, so I'm making one. :)

DooMAD
April 16th, 2004, 01:47 PM
I still can't work out how they did some of the more advanced stuff in the DemoWorld patch, like replacing the tilte graphic. I tried looking in the editor to see how it worked, but they've managed to lock it so that it can't be opened. *confused*

XDelusion
April 16th, 2004, 02:23 PM
I wish I could get the Demo 3 patch to work. :/

DooMAD
April 16th, 2004, 02:43 PM
I haven't tried that one yet. Actually, I probably won't try it, I don't want to play them, just see how they work. I'll assume that one is locked to the editor as well. :(

I guess palette shifts and level replacements will have to do for now. I've changed all of the levels up to Vanilla Plains 3 so far, but that won't be the name of the level when I've finished.

DooMAD
April 29th, 2004, 11:16 AM
*bump*

More shiny progress! I've replaced the "special" zone with a much better theme.

before:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/smwold1.gif

after:
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/smwnew1.gif

XDelusion
April 29th, 2004, 12:28 PM
The Star worlds were the best!

DooMAD
April 29th, 2004, 12:34 PM
Heh, you won't find them in my version. I decided I'm too lazy to replace them, so I made all the star roads go straight to that special world replacement. :)

XDelusion
April 29th, 2004, 02:08 PM
So no spring action Bean Vines? :)

DooMAD
May 21st, 2004, 11:10 AM
*bump*

Heh, I'm still working on it. :D

Here's screenshots of the latest progress:

http://www.teamhellspawn.com/smwcheesy.gif
http://www.teamhellspawn.com/smwevil.gif

ToXiCFLUFF
May 21st, 2004, 11:56 AM
Hehe, Cheese Castle.

Exl
May 21st, 2004, 12:22 PM
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PumpkinSmasher
May 22nd, 2004, 12:11 PM
*me wants to play Super DooMAD World*

Megaman1956116
June 3rd, 2006, 10:14 AM
How do you restrict level access.

I've been trying to do that for 7 months know.

If you do know please tell me


J09fish@aol.com

Megaman1956116
June 3rd, 2006, 10:20 AM
If anyone knows how to restrict level access in Lunar Magic then please tell me.

Thanks

J09fish@aol.com

FATAL
June 3rd, 2006, 10:35 AM
*bump*

Heh, I'm still working on it. :D
Wonder if that still applies? ;)