win XP Problem

[KuriKai]

has anyone have/had this problem and know how to fix it?

win xp starts up i log in then about 30 seconds later a it trys to dial to the internet.
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i open some types opf programs and it closes 30 seconds later

[Nomad]

win xp starts up i log in then about 30 seconds later a it trys to dial to the internet.

Check what programs load on startup. Perhaps you have an Instant messenger that is set to automaticly connect to the net?

If you need, you can use this program to see what all programs run on startup: http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

[Big_al]

could be spyware or something

[Pieter Enis]

a dialer perhaps? run a virusscan, mine detects those

[FATAL]

I think it's a virus you have there. And if it is, without a virus scanner you're in trouble!

[Big_al]

Download Zone Alarm and you'll be able to see which program is trying to access the net

[KuriKai]

good thing i have win ME on the same computer
scanning 4 viruses now
zone alarm detects:
msmsgs.exe
svchost.exe
mdmsv.exe

do any of you have these ones running?

[CheapAlert]

Get Spybot search and destroy :D

http://security.kolla.de

[Big_al]

good thing i have win ME on the same computer
scanning 4 viruses now
zone alarm detects:
msmsgs.exe
svchost.exe
mdmsv.exe

do any of you have these ones running? Type the exec name into google and it should run down some pages telling you what they are.

[Pieter Enis]

only the chost I have, four times, Hmmmm *runs virusscan*

*jawdrop* HOLY COW!!! THAT'S A LOT OF SPYWARE*jawdrop*

[KuriKai]

now theres a problem with shutting down winxp. STUPID THING
no adware found
1 virus found and fixed ' didnt solve problem'
ill try dissabling mdmsv,exe after i backup everything

[KuriKai]

searched google for mdmsv.exe
came up eith this site: http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32agobotbr.html
the worm has the same name as the virus i found whe scanning the drive
The worm also attempts to terminate and disable various security related programs. thats what it does on my comp disables norton and zone alarm and msconfig

[Big_al]

at least you can deal with it now,

I've got 139 warnings :( mostly cookie

[KuriKai]

the problem was with the file mdmsv.exe under system32 folder
ive now fixed the problem of shutingdown computer/programs and auto connecting to internet

but new problem now (Yay)
i connect to the internet but cant go anywhere lol so many problems with win xp

[chubzdoomer]

the problem was with the file mdmsv.exe under system32 folder
ive now fixed the problem of shutingdown computer/programs and auto connecting to internet

but new problem now (Yay)
i connect to the internet but cant go anywhere lol so many problems with win xp

what do you mean by "you cant go anywhere" ?

Maybe i can help you out

[KuriKai]

dont worry i fixed the problem
it was because i wasnt letting a windows file access the internet

thanks for all your help people

[FATAL]

You just can't forget about those viruses that disable norton and zonealarm just because it doesn't bother you for now. Soon you will have some new viruses to cause you maybe even bigger problems. In worst occasions they destroy BIOS, and then you must buy another BIOS from some store. Maybe they'll make your computer so useless that you need to reformat your hd. I had to do this one time :( Even that I had working norton some viruses and worms got through (no, I haven't downloaded gator or anything ;)) And disable norton. I tried 3 days delete the viruses with no results. So I had to do the reformatting.

Just a warning, you should clean up the whole mess before doing anything.

[Pieter Enis]

Backups are handy too y'know, but my files aint worth it :D

[Big_al]

Need to watch you don't backup the virus to CDR, I've done that in the past :D

[Tyberious]

by the way msmgs is windows msn messanger. I recommend disabling that since I douby you use it because if you did you would know what it was. also try updating everything to avoid mroe compatability problems. I remember the inital first release of XP was buggy so updaging everything will help and keep an eye out in june or july ofr windows service pack 2 which will add alot of features, will be faster and whatnot or so microsoft says. I guess ill be the tester and tell ya how it is when it comes out.

EDIT: Scvhost runs under multipul programs, jsut press ctrl alt and del to see all fo those. They are fine and do not need tyo be sidabled since they are with the operating system.

[IRONMAN]

I tried to find the most appropriate place for this response. Jackal, I have a response for your very aggressive and offensive reply to a post I made where people where discussing how much cable is faster than DSL.


IRONMAN I have a few problems with your statements ... one being the many spelling errors. Learn to spell, or at least check the spelling before posting so hundreds can see your illiteracy babble. Learning to spell might also make you sound more credible. "I donwloaded" "a cable anywhere is faster than a DSL anwhere" "conparable" "brouser" "becauise" rouser? isn't that the bad guy from Mario?


It's not spelling, it's a lack of sleep and poor typing skills. Did you enjoy your insult though? Regarding you contention that my grammar is poor, at the risk of seeming vehemently auspicious in my adroitness toward the ossification of the English language, I beseechingly poist that my grammar is inculpable, even veracios. wOuLd YoU nOt AgReE?


Now that I’ve got that out of my system, I can get on seriously. First off, you say optical can hardly be found anywhere, my big problem with that is the fact that a small internet provider, like mine -tecnotwist- can provide me with a T4 connection, which is, last I checked, optical. Most businesses around the world do use T2 or T4 connections, aside from smaller, venture businesses, sole proprietorships, or partnerships who can't afford it, or it's use wouldn’t be very plausible.

The vast majority of ISP's do not offer optical connections. The phone companies do, but since it costs as much as a good used car to get such a line installed by them, only a duffus with more money than sence would order it. Why spend $1,500 to $6,000 or more to install and $75 to $150 per month for that when you can have cable or DSL? If it's so affordable, why aren't you using it? We were talking about users, not corporations, ya know?


Next, the speed in which you connect to the internet with lays partly on how it is wired. Like cable tv, or satellite, if it is wired incorrectly, you will get a poor connection/poor quality. Now, DSL is connected to the phone lines, transferring information in digital format, all that would cripple DSL are real world factors, downed power lines, too few servers, or poorly optimized computers. All these are general reasons why DSL could fail. Cable, on the other hand, is quite different. Cable is a 'Multi-Connection Single Server.' Take this into account, if you have Cable, you are one of several thousand, give or take a few, competing for bandwidth between however many servers, per city. As more people get online, your connection speed decreases until the server is full, when the server is full, you are rerouted to another server, allowing all subscribers to enjoy their 'quality time' with Mr. internet. Think of it as waiting in line.

I'm not putting down the use of DSL, just debunking your false assertions that cable is somehow flawed and inferior. You are making senceless excuses to attack the use of cable. I know of nobody who has cable that has any of he "potential" problems that you tout. Perhaps you have fallen prey to the marketing schemes of DSL providers, who definately want you to think cable is bad in some way so they can sell you a DSL line. Similar marketing garbage is put out by sat TV providers to try to convince you that digital cable is inferior, when it actually provides better picture quality, the ability to fast forward, rewind, and pause movies, and none of the annoying pauses or latency when changing channels. My cable is in an apartment complex in a city of 260,000 people and there is only 1 cable TV and Internet provider in this city. Just one! That means everyone in this city who uses cable gets their cable TV and cable Internet from the same company. Even so, my connection is not effected by this and is far faster than DSL and only goes down for about 1 hour or so every 5 or 6 months, and that is because of the provider's server going off-line temporarily, not because of any cable problem. Your assertions about cable are pointless. Cable is faster than DSL, anywhere, anytime, any city. Why you are so interested in putting cable? My "waiting line" connection as you call it is faster than DSL by a loooooong shot. My guess is that you are making senceless attacks on cable simply because you are angry that you can't get it where you live. If you actually got cable and experienced it's speed, you would see that dial-up is to DSL as DSL is to cable. Once more, I'm not putting down the use of DSL, just debunking your false assertions that cable is somehow flawed and inferior. Get your facts straight.


HAH! hacker sissies. Now this is a huge misconception based on generalized media slander. There are several 'classes' that may be considered 'Hacker' and two different words with two VERY different definitions, I’ll give you a quick rundown. Hacker: Someone with good knowledge of computers who 'infiltrates' systems in the interest of gaining knowledge, or improving their abilities. Cracker: No, not a racist slur, but a would be hacker who often times 'infiltrates' systems in the interest of causing damage to the named server. Now we can further break it down to four classed. White Hat: Anti-authoritarians who are, more often than not, opposed to destroying or maiming others property. Sometimes you can find a white hat or gray hat working with internet security. Black Hat: The exact opposite of White hat, and are best paired with the Term 'Cracker' Gray Hat: This should be fairly obvious, somewhere in-between white and black. Now the kicker, Script Kiddies: These little demons are the 'children' who think they are 1337 because they have some program to get your IP, or send mail bombs and viruses to some ingrate they dislike.

Yes, I called hackers "sissies". That seems to upset you greatly for some reason. It is true that these sissies are drawn to cable and DSL users. A "huge misconception based on generalized media slander"? What misconception? That hackers are interested in "gaining knowledge, or improving their abilities"? Hardly. They are simply expressing thier immature and misdirected agression and felonious irresponsibility. If they wanted knowlege they could buy a book about OS's, networking, or programming. lol Anyone who tries to gain unauthorized access to a system is a hacker, and hackers are sissies. Anyone with no more constructive use of thier mind than to hack into a system and get nothing for doing it except perhaps closed out by thier ISP has issues. Personally, I have gotten numerous hacker sissies dropped from thier ISP's by repeatedly reporting thier attacks and providing my NIS alerts log. I have even been spoken to major ISP's security managers on the phone and been told numerous times by some of them that they closed out the punk because he was so stupid that even after being warned he continued to hack and get reported. What a moron eh? Server logs are a beautiful thing when compared to a firewall log. : ) You seem to know a lot about hacking. Why is that?.


With that done, I'd like to inform you that the 'Hacker Sissies' mainly black hat are quite capable of getting through to your computer, and with your lack of knowledge on this topic, I can deduct that you probably haven’t realized hacking isn't precise. Most of the time, a 'Hacker' doesn’t know what the hell he or she is hacking into until their inside. SISCO, Nortan, it doesn’t matter what you use, the only real security against hackers is to disconnect for the internet. Even if it's the latest piece of garbage on the net, it won't take very long for someone to find a hole in the security and exploit it, much like the new $20 dollar bill, not even a week old, and it was already being counterfeited.

There's a big difference between trying to hack an OS like SISCO (or Windows) and trying to hack an excellent firewall, especially without the source code. No hacker, for example, will get past a good firewall unless he specifically knows whatever holes may exist. Poking and hoping won't do it. This would require someone reverse engineering Norton (for example) if they could get the source code. I doubt seriously that anyone at Symantec has leaked it. IF however, a NIS (Notron Internet Security) user were to allow NIS to create a rule to "Permit all" use of the system's ports by a specific application, then just maybe, just maybe someone using NIS could get hacked through a program or game they are running. By default, NIS will create a rule called "Automatic" which limits program's use of the ports. Even so, the Intrusion Detection in NIS will likely stop any funny looking use of the ports or part of the OS, even by a program with a "Permit all" rule. Someone using a cheap firewalI would be far easier to hack than someone using NIS or one of the few excellent firewalls, like Sygate. Most individual users who get hacked are not running a firewall at all, so say the security managers that I've spoken to. They have a hard enough time getting past the built-in security of the OS, much less good security software.

I use NIS myself, and have had HUNDREDS of hacker sissies try to get through it either by hacking or with with a trojan horse while I'm sitting in front of my PC. There have been so many (perhaps 1-3 dozen per day) that I simply turned off the alerts long ago and I just go on using my PC. None have ever gotten past Norton, and I doubt anyone could. Any attempt to hack into a system running NIS or similar, if not stopped cold in it's tracks, would just cause the system to lock up, thus rendering the attempted hack worthless. Hacker sissies look for unprotected systems usually. When they hit a firewall, they usually just move on. That's because they know that they would likely not get in no matter what they try. So they don't waste their time trying for nothing. Not even unscrupulous web pages that try to install spyware and sub-seven backdoor trojans. Trying to hack Norton or another quality firewall is poking and hoping. Without the source code for it, good luck kiddo. Getting the source code for MS properties is far easier. MS is a huge company which employs plenty of snotty punks willing to leak source code in exchange for thier dignity and self-worth. Symantec is by comparison a very small company with probably less than 1,500 employees, most of whom probably own stock in the company. Furthermore, updates are available from Symantec on an almost daily basis and are downloaded and installed automatically without user intervention. MS security updates are few and far between, and usually provided long after they learn about a hole from users and companies. So... you can hack Outlook Express, IE, Windows, or whatever. That still does not mean you will get past NIS or Sygate. You might get past SISCO, but you will not likely ever get past NIS.

Hacker sissies are having a harder time getting into systems these days because more and more companies are using good security software. Gone are the days of the 80's and early 90's when hacking into a corporate system was a sinch for a decent hacker. If you hear about a hacker sissy gaining access to a company's system, you can bet they were not running Norton or a similar product.


Now, children, let take a look at our next exhibit, IRONMAN, Homo-Ignoramus.


"Let take a look"? Whatever.

May I say a word about McAfee? In 2000-02 McAfee promised right on the box of thier security Office software suite that "Free updates for 1 year!" were available. They lied. None were available. In fact, the links on thier site to "Free updates" took users to a page where they wanted to sell the updates, but no free downloads were available. This pissed off thousands of McAfee customers and caused dozens of forums to pop up on the net where thousands of users complained about McAfee's lies. If you doubt me, search the net for them. You'll find them. I would not use a McAfee product if it were given to me for free. Not ever. I do not patronize companies like thiers. I hope that you do not either.

[Tyberious]

just drop it. You are going to piss the mods off if you drag this out, you will look more mature by not keeping it going. I respect your opinion but lets not start flame wars. If someoen pisses you off, ignore them and let it blow past, you aren't going ot change someone's mind set with your opinion...


and now I said too much, hopefully this will end. Lets burry the hatchet, for as the saying goes
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"eat, drink and be marry for tomarrow we die"

basically just enjoy life while it lasts and don't fight with people (im sure we are all guilty of this from time to time, even me of course). I still have respect for everyone in the forums, even you :)