caco

[Dude345]

I KNOW theres a cacodemon! AND NOTHING WILL MAKE ME CHANGE MY MIND! yeah its dees drugs dey make me hype :)

[FATAL]

ugh, now this I would consider as spam topic...

There's already some other topics around talking about what demons DooM III will have and what it doesn't if you meant about that thing...

[BetoTheDestroyer]

Heres a picture i found.Will the cacodemon look like this i think the picture looks awsome keeps to the look of the origional cacodemon wich i think is a good thing.I hope they dont give it arms or legs.


http://www.forumplanet.com/planetdoom/topic.asp?fid=4952&tid=1251326&p=3

[Ninja_of_DooM]

It looks good but it's just artwork. It might not be put in at then although I hope not.

[FATAL]

Check out the cacodemon model in jDoom with the 3d resource pack. I'd like to see caco like that with just a bit darker skin and more detail in it!

[BetoTheDestroyer]

As long as they put the cacodemon in im happy.:)

[DooMMooD]

what about that skull spewing bastard? i guess he wasn't too popular. i dont hear about people wanting to see him in Doom III. i personally didnt like him too much so i wouldnt mind if he was discontinued.

[BetoTheDestroyer]

Pain Elemental was ok i never realy liked it but i didnt hate it.

[Nomad]

There was another thread there on PlanetDooM's forums about the Cacos, and I saw a really interesting Idea.

They had the idea to explain its floating ability, by using electricity to hold itself up. I imagined (yes, i closed my eyes and tried to imagine it), and it was a really cool idea -- It'd work like the ships in The Matrix did, with the electro-magnetic things on it. I can just that in game now: You see a giant squishy cannonball hurling itself at you, and spitting high concentration balls of electricity at you. Imagine seeing that in the dark, too. You'd only see the "lightening", and a big round shadow.

That'd be friggen cool.

[FATAL]

Yup, and that would make DooM III a little more frightening than what it would be without it!

Caco is one of the only monsters I really like to see how ID managed to get it in their ultra 3d engine.

[BetoTheDestroyer]

Heres concept art i found on a site is this how you saw the cacodemon?I think it looks ok but it could be better,alot better.


http://www.deviantart.com/view/4480111/

http://www.deviantart.com/view/4488901/

[DooMMooD]

they are waaaaaaaaay too cartoonish. i want something hardcore, i dont want something that you look at and say, "huh, i didnt know they put clowns in doom." i want to be scared shatless. i dont like the idea of the caco having huge, long fangs as its predominant feature. subdue the teeth and fangs and make the caco more immense. thats what i say.

[FATAL]

Nah, I don't like them either. They're nicely drawn, but I wouldn't call the cacodemons, some else flying demons yes, but not cacos.

It's really hard to make good cacodemon, let's just wait 'till ID (maybe) shows us one.

[DooMMooD]

ah! i just figured it out. whats wrong with those pictures is that the cacodemons look too much lilke human heads. i dont want them to resemble anything human. just give me a big round orb that shoots lightning. thats all.

[FATAL]

Now when I look at them after reading your post, I must say you're absolutely correct on that one! They look like humans, and I don't like it that way. They need to have this demonic look. Maybe some horns, Less cybernetic parts, perhaps it look more agressive.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

I've always hated the pain in the arse elemental. The Caco art looks really sweet though. Those teeth are massive. I wouldn't want to get bitten by one of those anyway.:D

[Gamedude]

I don't like demons with cybernetic parts on them. I like monsters that are all flesh, not robots. That's what I didn't like about Quake II. The monsters weren't even scary because they were all a bunch of robots. I hope they don't go overboard with the cybernetics in DooM III and ruin it. Cybernetics in a baron or cyberdemon is OK, but not in a cacodemon. They almost ruined the lost souls, if it wasn't for their hideously creepy faces. A flaming skull with bull horns and fangs is a lot scarier than a warped human head with rocket boosters, LOL. The demon looks a lot different, but it still looks cool and pretty creepy. I love those new spider things.

[DooMMooD]

thats right. i want a monster thats all flesh to scare ths shat out of me. a cybernetic monster isn't all too scary.

[FATAL]

Hmm... I like cybernetic parts with some monsters. For example that they fir to the demons (check the trailer) that have the 2 cybernetic foots.
Some demons NEED them, like arachnotron, cyberdemon (of course), and maybe some others.
But really caco with machinery just doesn't fit the picture...

[BetoTheDestroyer]

True i think the first all flesh no machine cacodemon looks good just cut down on the teeth a little.But overall it looks like a cacodemon like monster.THe other two half robot pictures i dont like,those i just posted to show you all what i found.

[FATAL]

To be honest BetoTheDestroyer, I don't like that one either, it's just too... small.
Cacodemon needs to be massive, not just some lost soul

[BetoTheDestroyer]

well it is a picture of the cacodemon thats not the actual size.I think the style of the first cacodemon picture is good looks like a cacodemon.That isnt the actual size of the monster,caco was never as small as a lost soul so theres no way its going to be the size of a lost soul.Though the picture they have is a good theory of how a cacodemon should look.The only problem i have is the teeth are too big.Also most of the cacodemon is behind the shadow so you cant see the whole monster.

[Dude345]

Yeah i confirmed it! hes in there ITS CONFIRMED IN THE NAUGHTY PROGRAM!

[BetoTheDestroyer]

do you have a link to the confirmation? will they release any concepts on how he might look?

[The Mastermind]

Go to http://www.planetdoom.com and read the article under the headline "DOOM3 at GamePro". Nothing more is known, to my knowledge.

[BetoTheDestroyer]

Thanks Mastermind the cacodemon is one of the monsters im looking forward to seeing.Anything on how it might look?*thumbs*

[Dude345]

I confirmd it in the alpha but i got ingnored. i knew he was in there!

[BetoTheDestroyer]

The alpha?

[Dude345]

yeah

[BetoTheDestroyer]

what alpha??? i dont know what you mean by it

[FATAL]

I don't think that you should talk about the alpha around here... Just a hint.

And I don't think that there is any reason to discuss about what will the cacodemon look like in DooM ]I[

Let's just wait for the real thing...

[DooMMooD]

NO ALPHA YOU IDIOT DUDE345! JESUS CHRIST. dude, its at the top of the forum, it says something like ALPHA TALK OFF-LIMITS! doom_dude is gonna come over here and stomp on you for that one. and beto, dont pursue the subject any further. just dont. that was just a serious leak of information and a breach in trust dude345. not only that but you trespassed on Id, and that is unforgivable.

[BetoTheDestroyer]

Sorry about that i just didnt know what he meant by it.Either way dont get all crazy about it.I dont think flaming people for mistakes will help.

[FATAL]

yes, yes, we all make mistakes sometimes. Beto and Dude made theirs on this one, and I'm sure they learned from it.

"I do not speak about DooM ]I[ alpha leak any longer"
Now write it 200 times to a blackboard :p

[eX_Do0mY]

In the April 2004 issue of gamepro, they confirm that the caco is no longer a flying tomato! Nooo!

[DooMMooD]

WHAT! say it aint so! that sucks, im gonna miss the vegetation in doom. please tell me theyll still be round!

[BetoTheDestroyer]

.................................................. .................................................. ....................*angry*. .................................................. ............................................"Cough"............Is it going to have arms and legs?? or is it going to slug on the floor is it still going to be a cacodemon??I cant beleive this BS cacodemon is no cacodemon if it dosent fly.

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah don't talk about the damned alpha.

Planetdoom? I hope you guys read the newdoom news page.
http://www.newdoom.com/

[BetoTheDestroyer]

It says the monsters look different but it dosent say the cacodemon wont be flying anymore.

[Dude345]

Sure................. Well i read that he is going to be the one which gives out lost souls not the pain elemetal.

[DooMMooD]

Planetdoom? I hope you guys read the newdoom news page.
http://www.newdoom.com/

whoa, theres a newdoom news page?!

I also just had the wierdest dream, im trying to sort it out, so ill make it as coherent as i can for you. i had a dream about counter strike and doom combined, it was really wierd. I dreampt that first i was playing counterstrike, and then i was playing doom III but it was with the doom II engine. and the arachnotrons were spewing skulls in my dream. the arachnotrons themselves were on fire. it was just really wierd. and no, i didnt see the cacodemon.

[PumpkinSmasher]

haha sounds like an awesome dream DooMMooD.

[Dude345]

Hey i was one of the first to know about caco! I read through my alpha docs like a year ago!

[BetoTheDestroyer]

roger.Ive seen proof of its existance 2 words "Def file".*angry*

[Dude345]

Yeah..... Monsters.Def