Yo Sparky

[Doom_Dude]

Hey Sparky and everybody else for that matter. I want to update the NDCP site but since the 'incident' with that dipshit who deleted the forums I've totally lost track of what the hell is going on. So Sparky can you gather the info of what needs to be updated and post it here. I know iori has some screens and so does Ninja but any other info will help a lot. Its about time we all got back on track. Unfortunately I lost my focus on all Doom stuff due to the incident and I was confused beforehand. :p Anybody else who can add info please post it here and I will update Sunday to be sure. Oh and who do I need to change on the team list and on who is doing what map. I hope you kept that txt file updated Sparky.

[PumpkinSmasher]

Is Melfice still on the project?

[Doom_Dude]

He said he quit........again. *bug*

[PumpkinSmasher]

hmm so we have an empty spot

I've really been in a mapping block this year and have no idea what to do with my map.

[DOOM_GOAT]

I'll have a slightly tweaked map for you soon

[PumpkinSmasher]

would you like me to send you the latest version of it Doom_Dude?

[DOOM_GOAT]

Of what?

[PumpkinSmasher]

my map

[iori]

Hmmm So melfive dropped his slot, did he. Funny guy. My maps coming along very well, doing some sweet things with the doom engine :p, though nothing that hasnt been seen before as far as effects (Being it the doom engine and the year 2004 and all). Yeah. I suggest not using those screens i posted D_D, because the maps evolved a bit from then, but its your call

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Like DD said, I'm done with my work.

[Doom_Dude]

Hmmm So melfive dropped his slot, did he. Funny guy. My maps coming along very well, doing some sweet things with the doom engine :p, though nothing that hasnt been seen before as far as effects (Being it the doom engine and the year 2004 and all). Yeah. I suggest not using those screens i posted D_D, because the maps evolved a bit from then, but its your call

Yeah hes like a yo-yo where this project is concerned.. :p Ooooh and about screenshots.... I really don't think they have to be right up to date. As long as people looking at them can get an idea of what they're going to play then the screens have done thier job methinks. ;)

would you like me to send you the latest version of it Doom_Dude?

Yeah okay, send it along. ;)

I'll have a slightly tweaked map for you soon

Cool. It sure would be nice to get this megawad done this year. ;)

[PumpkinSmasher]

i sent it your way DD

[Sparky]

someone deleated the posts? soo thats what happened :p
hmmm, i dont think much has happened
unfortunatly i havent updated my those txt files in a really long time
been so busy with other stuff myself
iv just lost track

i cant remember anything at all :(
if anyone has news about there progress with there maps
post about it here or something

[DoomedAce]

Just a quick notice from my side: If you guys are looking for an extra mapper, just give me a call.

[Sparky]

if melfice dropped his slot, then yes we are :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Melfice is out, so DoomedAce can have it, i believe map 28?. But that may be off

[Doom_Dude]

Sparky wasn't Paul Corfiatis doing a map?

[Ninja_of_DooM]

I think he was. Maybe we should drop him a line and remind him. I would contribute my newest project to Map 28 but:
1. It's WAY too big
2. It would take too much work to convert it to Vanilla and would seriously lack detail
3. It's uses some custom textures

Besides, I think the reviews will be good.;)

[iori]

Ok, i couldnt resist. These screens are in the same location as the last shots, just for continuity :p The level has more to it, just in case some people were wondering...

Im calling this map "Their Sweet Embrace"
http://darknexus.dmhgames.ath.cx/Hosted/iori/NDCP/shot01.jpg
http://darknexus.dmhgames.ath.cx/Hosted/iori/NDCP/shot02.jpg
http://darknexus.dmhgames.ath.cx/Hosted/iori/NDCP/shot03.jpg

[DoomedAce]

Hmm... Ok. What were the rules again? It's supposed to be a vanilla doom wad right? Does that also mean I can't use some custom textures?

I have a hellish-style map that I've been working on for another project, called "Demonic Rift". But since that project's now pretty much dead, I had no idea what to do with it. So I thought maybe I could contribute it to the NDCP. Problem is, it uses many custom textures and flats...

Think I'll just have to do a new map from scratch then. Map28, was it?

[Exl]

Using your own textures and flats is allowed, so don't worry. You can't however use custom animated textures, replace sounds\music\sprites or use any special linedef types that vanilla Doom doesn't support (like Boom triggers).

[Sparky]

paul wass doing map06 i believe
and you need to post the rules on the site too

[PumpkinSmasher]

I love the screens iori.
Glad here we have someone to fill in the empty spot.

[DoomedAce]

Alrighty then! In that case I'll use the map I already had :D. It's about 30% finished. I'll post some screenies when it's half done.

[DoomedAce]

Sorry for double posting, but I couldn't resist putting up some screenies :D

http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/Temple.jpg
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/Shrine.jpg
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/Lava.jpg

[PumpkinSmasher]

Looking good, nice and dark! :D

[DoomedAce]

Lol... Those are a few of the brightest areas in the map. Wait till you see the caves that run as a labyrinth around the central temple *dark*

Oh yeah... Maybe you noticed the temple's a bit overscaled. But that's just to provide enough space for the Cyberdemons that inhabit the temple. *evilol*

[PumpkinSmasher]

sounds tough

[Doom_Dude]

Screens look cool there DoomedAce.

I emailed Paul. I should check my email now.

I ended up painting a ceiling when I was planning on doin the update. Ummmmm should start that update now and even if I don't get it done tonight it'll be a start at least..

Me feel lazy now. :p

[DoomedAce]

Can someone post the rules again, please?
Just to be certain that I won't do anything that I'll have to correct later.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I'm not sure if this is the newest version, i just copied it out of the sticky NDCP thread


RULES:

Maps Must Be For Plain Doom2 (no port)
Maps Must Be As Error Free As Possible
You May use Boom Or Zdoom to Get Rid Of Doom Limits Like Visplanes ( or any other port )
No New Sprites, Music, Sounds, Just Stick With Stuff From Doom2.wad.
There Is No Size Limit But Don't Make A Tiny Tiny Or Mega Huge Map
Difficulty Is In-between Easy-Hard
And You May Use Any Style/Theme
There Are No Timelimits, But Dont Take Longer Then Everyone Else
You May Use New Textures And Flats, Just As long As They Don't Overwrite Old Doom2 Textures
Maps Must Support All Skill Levels In Some Way
Maps Must Have A Miniumum Of 2 Secrets
Mappers Of Map15 And Map31: Map15 Must Exit To Map31 And Map31 Must Exit To Map32 (use secret exit switches in map15 and map31 instead of normal exit switches)

Mappers Must Check There Map When Completed, That It Follows All The Rules

[DoomedAce]

Right, thanks. I think my map qualifies then. :D

[PumpkinSmasher]

If you make your own textures, try to give them unique names so they don't overwrite other peoples either.

[Exl]

And can someone give him the link to the NDCP resource wad (and password for other stuff)?

[iori]

Hmmm. its nice and sunny out today ;)

[PumpkinSmasher]

shhhh....its pretty cold here.

[Wicked Anime Kid]

Really really nice screenshots there DoomedAce:D

[DoomedAce]

Hmm.. Yeah. Work on the NDCP project has slowed down my mapping on the Resurrection project a bit. Hope you don't mind, WAK ;).

[Wicked Anime Kid]

No big deal we aren't in such a hurry;)
Just take your time (if you have any questions about xg files and usage email hexagon about it)

[Doom_Dude]

Fricking real-life and boredom and hackers and bleagh..........

[DoomedAce]

Fricking real-life and boredom and hackers and bleagh..........

That's right... Very good! Just throw out all the nasty feelings like that! Relax... Clear your mind.. Feeling better now? :p

[Doom_Dude]

*Jumps up and down on nasty stuff* *wacky*

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Now, about that update...

[Sparky]

shush...
its not that importenet ninja *rolleyes*

[Doom_Dude]

shush...
its not that importenet ninja *rolleyes*

Oooooh yeah that update. *spin*

Okay lets get this stuff straight.

Melfice was doing maps 08, 21 and 29

Paul Corfiatis is doing map06.

Pumpkinsmasher is doing map21.

DoomedAce thought he was doing map28 but Stphrz did a map28 already and so DoomedAce can have the map29 slot.

But who is doing map08???? If nobody is doing map08 then I have somebody I want to ask. ;)

[DoomedAce]

So it's map 29, huh? Dang... There goes the cool "Spirit World" music *bug*. And it fitted really well with my map.

Oh well... Guess I'll just name it Map29 and move on mapping.

[Doom_Dude]

Well maybe we can do something about the music later on. I would've mentioned 28 was taken beforehand but I only just noticed when I was doing this update and looked at the site.

[Sparky]

map 21 and 29 were takin by someone. im pretty sure
and someone was also doign map08 but we gave up looking for that person so we gave it to melfice
ao then doomedace has map08 if we find the 2 peeps that are doing map 21 and 29

its my fualt not keeping my lists up to date with this stuff
if we cant fix this soon i think were gunna have to "re-shuffle" the map list and people can "re-declare" there map slots
and anyone who doesnt will be givin a time period and if that person doesnt respawned we can just give it away to someone else
i dont want to have to wait forever for these people to wake up.

if the last mapper of map06 doesnt surfice then thats there loss. this project needs to move on
paul has map06 for now untill we can find who it was doing it
doomedace, you going to have to wait to get your map number untill we figurethis stuff out
im pretty sure Rex is doing map 21 or 29
whos doing map08 or who was?

its not just my fault, i shouldnt just be responsible for remebering all these things
the mappers should too. keep your own lists and stuff to help the rest of us
the project will go alot faster when we dont have to think about these kinda of things

im going to update my list when we do an update
im just mad that no one knows up these things
everyone should

[PumpkinSmasher]

Well I'm doing map 21 Sparky. I was told that Cybernetic Genocide sounded like a Cyberdemon Level, so I think I'll name mine 13th Cross.

[DoomedAce]

No biggie... I can wait for the number. BTW, I'm calling it "Crack of Doom".

[Sparky]

ok is pumpkin is doing map 21 then
im 80% sure rex is doing map 29
now for the oddities of map06 and map08
if someone can explain those then where set :)

[Doom_Dude]

Paul Corfiatis is doing Map06 (email confirmed this myself)
Pumpkinsmaher is doing Map21
ReX is possibly doing Map29? I'll email him and ask.
Map08 remains a mystery. What is on the olde txt list Sparky?

If map08 isn't taken then DoomedAce should have it. If somebody else has map08 then DoomedAce can have my 2nd slot. Damn those hackers....all that info was in here before. :/

[Sparky]

im talking about who was doing map06 before paul
i think its importent that if someone has worked on map06 already then they should have it
the only reason that we gave paul map06 was cus we couldnt find the originial mapper

map08 is another unknown map
someone is or was doing it before but we just cant figure out who. we can give doomedace map08 for now
(anyone know? melfice maybe?)

i still want to find these mappers, its just fair to them
though if they dont show up then we will give there slots away

i think we have all the info for now
its to bad about those losts posts
no matter, we shall keep going :)

[PumpkinSmasher]

Map08 ws supposed to be done by melfice, then he gave it up, and i don't know if anyone claimed it after that.

[Doom_Dude]

Im pretty sure the map06 slot was 'clear' so to speak when you asked Paul so I wouldn't worry about that one. I do wonder about map08 but like Pumpkinsmasher said that was a Melfice map. Melfice said quite clearly that he wasn't going to help us and he already gave us the olde 'Im not gonna help with the NDCP' before and I talked to him in a PM and he eventually said hed do the one map and now..... honestly I give up asking him to do anything.

So map08 is probably free. We can wait and see what happens but DoomedAce deserves a spot with all the hard work he's put into a map and id give him the map08 slot right now if I was sure nobody else took it after Melfice gave it up. We should've had our shit together with the map28 slot as all we had to do was look on the NDCP site to clearly see that map slot was Stphrz's, who's map is finished. If I have to I can give DoomedAce my map07 slot. I'm finding it hard to get to work on as I have so much other stuff to do.

[PumpkinSmasher]

I think Map29 is clear...I think i remember melfice said that was the map he was going to keep last time. and now he's not working on it at all. I could be wrong. All this is starting to get a little confusing.

[Doom_Dude]

Time to email ReX about map29. ;)

Don't get peeved Sparky. We both should've kept a list or something but didn't. Also sucks that 80% of the mappers on this thing don't post here and 2 of them never answer emails.... Lut and Face.Uk which I find annoying as it would be nice to know what they're doing if anything at all.

[edit] I emailed ReX to see if he's doing map29. We'll eventually get this figured out.

[iori]

Well Lut apparently has TONS of mail, tons of it junk to sort through, so he tells me. Try making a post at DW and see heh heh ;)

[Exl]

So map08 is probably free...

Hell no it isn't, I took it quite a while ago already (does "Xenturion" ring a bell?) *rolleyes*

[Sparky]

ok ok, i guess we can just givge up map06 and map08 then
paul has map06 and exl has map08 then
rex might have map29

so then no slots are free then, either we wait for someone to give up a slot or someone can give one up now. like DD said he would :)
though if you have worked on it DD, then you should still keep it incase theres a slot later on for it. dont want your hard work going to waste :)

[Doom_Dude]

ok ok, i guess we can just givge up map06 and map08 then
paul has map06 and exl has map08 then
rex might have map29

so then no slots are free then, either we wait for someone to give up a slot or someone can give one up now. like DD said he would :)
though if you have worked on it DD, then you should still keep it incase theres a slot later on for it. dont want your hard work going to waste :)

I'm not worried about my map, really. I can give the slot to DoomedAce. Like I said, I find it hard to get the time to work on it and I'll be able to do more tweaks on map01 afterwards.

Hell no it isn't, I took it quite a while ago already (does "Xenturion" ring a bell?) *rolleyes*

Sorry about that Exl. I'm glad you mentioned that.


Well Lut apparently has TONS of mail, tons of it junk to sort through, so he tells me. Try making a post at DW and see heh heh ;)

Yeah thats my last choice since he can't get on newdoom and his PM jobby is disabled on DW and I can't get an alternate email off either forum. I did email both him and Face last night so maybe they'll wake up and say something. :p

[Sparky]

i thought face.uk went away for awhile?
and hasent done much news lately

AFAWK LuT is sill working on his map
thats all the info we need really
we gotta know if hes dead or not :)

[Exl]

If DoomAce wants to, he can have my map08 slot. I haven't done much on it for a while now anyway.

[Doom_Dude]

He might have to flip a coin to see if he wants map08 or map07. :p

Ummmm yeah Face went away but he has posted a couple news items since so hes not all gone.

AFAWK Lut could be in Hawaii making sand castles. :p

[Sparky]

lol@sand castles :D

[DoomedAce]

I'll take whatever spot is left, be that 7 or 8 :p.

But just in case that Rex for whatever reason doesn't respond, I'd still like to have the 29th slot, as I'm intending to make this map a really tough cookie.

[Doom_Dude]

ReX is doing map24 just like it says on the site. :p So DoomedAce should be safe to take map29 and Exl can stay with his map08. :)

[Sparky]

ok dokie then
wait a min
who was doing map 29 before though? melfice?
i just dont want to give away other peoples slots

[Doom_Dude]

Yep Melfice was doing it before he went loopy. :p

[Sparky]

lol@loopy
and the second time too AFAIK
sthats why his NDLP thread is gone

[DoomedAce]

There Is No Size Limit But Don't Make A Tiny Tiny Or Mega Huge Map

What's your definition of a "mega huge map"? Is 2500 linedefs big, considering that's just around 40% of the map?

[Doom_Dude]

lol@loopy
and the second time too AFAIK
sthats why his NDLP thread is gone


That thread is still there. :p

[Sparky]

well i ment its not sticky anymore

i dont map, so i have no idea what a linedef is
mega huge map = a map that will cuase performence issues due to its size :p

[DoomedAce]

mega huge map = a map that will case performence issues due to its size :p

Heh, I don't think I'll be having difficulties keeping the map size within that margin :p.

[Sparky]

hehehe
yea i guess that would be pretty huge

[Doom_Dude]

well i ment its not sticky anymore

If it gets poopular again It'll get restuck. ;)

i dont map, so i have no idea what a linedef is

A linedef is a doom jobby. Hey maybe you should get Doom Builder and try mapping. :D

[Sparky]

i have it on my comp
it just seems so complex for me, ill try it one day :)
maybe ill make something as an aextra to the ndcp

[DoomedAce]

Screenshot time!! :D

Here are some shots of new/tweaked/re-textured areas (not particularly in that order):

The hellish Temple inside the Crack.
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/Temple1.jpg

Nice and cosy fireplaces.
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/Temple2.jpg

Are you here to pray or to listen to the priest..? I guess neither.. *smirk*
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s430017/Cyb.jpg

[Doom_Dude]

Accck the Cyberdemon window! *Do you want rockets in the face with that?* ;)

Looks cool DoomedAce. :)

[iori]

Melfice said that he didnt want to spend the time making a map for a community that he wasnt part of any more. Take it as you will.

[Sparky]

lol, gunna boycott the doom comminity again :) or was that newdoom?
either way, im pretty surprised he left again

[Doom_Dude]

The way I see it... Either you want to do a map or you don't.....

[Sparky]

hes a good mapper
he was doing 3 maps at one time
its to bad

[Exl]

He moved on to Quake 3 mapping. I'm having a feeling he'll be back someday though... ;)

[DOOM_GOAT]

Melfice said that he didnt want to spend the time making a map for a community that he wasnt part of any more

What about this Paul Corfiatis then? Is he even registered here? If not, then I'm sure if he's prepared to put in the effort for a community he's not part of, melfice can at least finish one map.

[Sparky]

lol :p true
i did tell paul about our forum though

[Doom_Dude]

Its supposed to be a Doom Community and even though our project is called 'Newdoom blah, blah' theres really no need to be registered here to join. If Melfice don't like us or whatever then thats his problem.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Ah well. Some come and go, Some just stay around for the show and others just do nothing.
On mapping, my new maps (non-NDCP) seems to have run out of steam for now. I just built a crapload of big 3D bridges and pits and have a room all drawn up but have no idea when I'm going to get back to work. I've got exams starting next week for 2 weeks so I'll be busy. Life sucks right now.*ugh*

[DoomedAce]

I don't mind that Melfice quit. I can do a map for the project thanks to that.

[Doom_Dude]

Looking on the bright side is good...

[iori]

"Always look on the bright side of life! Doo dee doo dee doo doo doo doo!"

[Doom_Dude]

Doo Dee Doo? :p

[iori]

Dont blame me for not knowing the words! *rofl*

[Damned Mentality]

Its supposed to be a Doom Community and even though our project is called 'Newdoom blah, blah' theres really no need to be registered here to join. If Melfice don't like us or whatever then thats his problem.

He still checks upon his friends, I know this for a fact. But I can tell you on his behalf that he has all too many projects going at once, between his personal life (now having a boyfriend) and now editing for Quake 3 Arena full time, it was the best idea. He didn't want to give you any more than his best, but being as busy and tied up as he was that wouldn't have happened, and he wouldn't have wanted that. Not being part of NewDoom is only a small part of why he quit.

[Doom_Dude]

Ugh, being too busy to get personal projects and stuff done is a drag but thats the way it goes. Been there, done that. ;)

[iori]

Wow, Damned Mentality, you sure know alot about Melfice.

Yeah i Have alot of stuff going on too - damn 'real life'... there outta be a law...

[Melfice]

Yeah, he happens to be one of my close friends ;)

Oh...yeah...I'm back, didja miss me? lol

Of course I'm only going to check in very little, because to be honest this place bores me to death *book*

But, you know, I got friends here ;)

BTW, I handed over Dark Nexus to Iori, I'm done DooM mapping, I can't find the will to do it anymore, but I wanted it to get done and I know Iori will beable to do a good job :)

[Doom_Dude]

Who are you again? ;) Yes we are very boring. Thanks for the compliment.. :p

Go iori go! How many maps does iori have to do on the dark jobby? Hurry up, stop dragging that anchor. :D

The will to map will come again. It gets boring when you power-edit a lot. Oh well.....

[iori]

Dark Nexus will take me a while im sure...considering that I dont know the first thing about Jdoom editing, and therefor have to appoint someone to handle that aspect, while I head up the legacy development. I might start a thead on legacy/jdoom to see if people are interested - but im looking for dedicated people help, preferably people who dont have another project to work on at the same time. (most of the extremely talented mappers I know are all tied up in their own projects, not surprisingly)

Wow, its almost imposing, ive never been in charge of a project like this before...

[Sparky]

paul sent me some screnshots of his map
which can be located here:
http://sparky.suhost.com/screens.zip
he also says Here is a zip with three screenshots from my level (MAP06) for the NDCP and its turning out to be a very good map indeed. I estimate I will have the level done by the end of the month at the earliest.

[Doom_Dude]

Cool! Looks pretty good... /me just checked out the shots.

Hey iori luck with that. Look forward to playing it sometime. :D

[iori]

hehe thx! Ill do my best!

[Damned Mentality]

I'm sure Iori will do a fine job :) My net's screwed up at my house at the moment so I'm at school :( Besides that, Phoebus still has my ip banned, but yet my account is banned. I have no idea wtf is going on but its wierd.

[iori]

He prolly doesnt know about it. Just email him.