Idea: NEWDOOM TC !!

[Sparky9212]

how about a newdoom tc ??
one made by all the mappers here at newdoom ?
i think doomworld is making one

lets see if we can beat um !! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
i can make the web page
http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm41.gif

[Ace]

That `megawad` at Doomworld is called Community Chest (http://www.kwic.com/~junior/cchest/) ,overseen by Cadman http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[Sparky9212]

well?? good idea bad idea??

[Ace]

I`ve onIy started messing around with DeePsea so I cant contribute yet.
Just see what the other guys think http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

[Doom_Dude]

I was 'thinking' about a community megawad for sometime now. I'm kinda busy with 3 projects but I probably should be able to contribute a wad if this thing actually gets off the ground. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Sparky9212]

good good... anyone else ?

[DarkWolf]

The specifics need to be decided, like game play mode (SP/DM/Coop) ports used (if any), etc.

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[Sparky9212]

well i think it be single player and plain doom2. thats the best and fasted way to go

[Doom_Dude]

DooM II
Single Player

Sounds good to me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Sparky9212]

BUT, must be detailed and error free
you MAY use boom or zdoom to get rid of doom limits like visplane overflows and stuff

[Doom_Dude]

Should run on any port and should be nodebuilt using ZenNode.

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[Sparky9212]

agreed !! anyone else ?

[Agent Spork]

I might contribute my Coop wad if I can ever learn any more FS, and finish it (I'm dumb, and I've also never done any scripting before).

[Doom_Dude]

That would make it a Legacy specific wad though.

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, FS wou;d get in the way of such a wad probably (wow, this coming from an FS addict...). Boom compatibility is probably a good idea. Most good ports are Boom compatible and it really lets you add detail without adding all this fancy crap. Will also run on just about any conceivable system. Even Mac and Linux. ZenNode is a must as well. Good nodes = better maps. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Sparky9212]

Yes http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif good ideas
now all we need is people to do maps
anyone ??

[Boingo the Clown]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">how about a newdoom tc ??
one made by all the mappers here at newdoom ?
i think doomworld is making one
lets see if we can beat um !!
i can make the web page
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It sounds like a good idea.


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[Doom_Dude]

Anybody else actually interested in making a map for this jobby?

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[Melfice]

I'd contribute a map. You just tell me these specifics:

1. Style (Hell, Tech, Inbetween)
2. Difficulty

I can map greatly using ZDoom and Doom2. From all the Boom talk, does that mean I can make it for ZDoom and use scripting? If so, that's even better!

[Ninja_of_DooM]

I have DeePsea so I'll see if I can maybe do something but don't expect much.

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[Exl]

I'm willing to chip in! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif
But a few more specific things might be nice though.

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[Sparky9212]

Well Then. I See We Have Some Mappers Here


The Rules Are:

Maps Must Be For Plain Doom2 (no port)

Maps Must Be As Error Free As Possible

You May use Boom Or Zdoom to Get Rid Of Doom Limits Like Visplanes ( or any other port )

No New Spirits,Music,Sounds,or Textures Just Stick With Stuff From Doom2.wad

There Is No Size Limit But Dont Make A Tiny Tiny Or Mega Huge Map

Difficulty Is Inbetween Easy-Hard

And You May Use Any Style/Theme

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The Current Mappers List Is: (is this right?)

Exl
Melfice
Doom_Dude
Ninja_Of_Doom

[Melfice]

Ah, to make a Vanilla Doom2 map (The term used for regular Doom 2 maps, since the ports have kinda overran the regular wads). I haven't done that forever, I've been making so many Doom64 type levels lately (Check this out (http://www.geocities.com/fly_taggart2002/Dark_Nexus)), it'd be a site for sore eyes.

Now to decide what style of level to make...

[Ninja_of_DooM]

I might not have so much time to do anything. I have exams coming up but I'll see how I can do. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif
I don't have any experience see? so I suppose I could use this to get started. Will Deepsea use Zennode?

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[Sparky9212]

yes you can use editer you want

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Well I dunno about zennode. I ain't aloud to download. My dad would kill me. Getting deepsea was risky enough. But count me in. It'll take me some more time to actually do this. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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[Sparky9212]

No prob, no time limits either

[Nickster]

Pfft, I want to see someone actually start PUSHING the limits instead of lowering them.
I say that you guys should be using Legacy or Zdoom with scripted in the levels...
But then again, I cant do anything for this megawad... except models, though I dont think you need any http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif


oh well, that is a bit advanced for a megawad... guess plain ol' vanilla doom will do *cries*

[Sparky9212]

cus its better, everyone can use it then
people just dont like one port you know http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif
it would start big flames

[Aliotroph?]

Woohoo! No vis-plane overflows! Does ZDoom support BooM linedef types?

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What kind of bull is that??? ZenNode is a tiny little file too. If you want I can e-mail it to you or something. Or if you e-mail me I can send you instructions on how to download it without him noticing. I just need to know your windows version (if you're using windows).

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[Sparky9212]

zdoom has all or most boom features

[Aliotroph?]

I was just thinking it would be nice if we could use the extra linedef types in BooM. They just add some variation to what was already in the game.

Too bad we can't use a texture wad for this that's a unification of textures from both DooMs. They ripped a lot of the good tech textures of out DooM II that were supposed to compliment some of the others. Problem is, it's technically a legal issue to do that.

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[Agent Spork]

If I made a DOOM 2 only map, it would probably suck, But I'll give it a try... I'm interested in this...

[Sphagne]

You can make great levels by old doom2 engine, especially if the limitations are removed.

[Sparky9212]

Sure http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif they dont have to be professonial
Looking Maps

[Aliotroph?]

My our standards the original maps aren't prefessional looking. Even Romero made next to no attempts at texture alignment. Maybe his editor sucked. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I wanna make a cool tech level (probably do some design tomorrow) but I miss a few of the comp textures they took out when they made DooM II. Grrr.

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

So is this gonna be a simple DooM II map with none of the leagcy features? Sounds ok to me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif

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[The Albino Negro [Lüt]]

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It's been done: [text (ftp://3darchives.in-span.net/pub/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/1337.txt) - zip (ftp://3darchives.in-span.net/pub/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/1337.zip)]

[Exl]

Guess we'll have to give it a different name then. . http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif
And I really think we should allow the use of Boom specials, allmost all ports have them nowadays.

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[mystic]

Okay, put me down for this, vanilla maps dont take too long to make.

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[Sparky9212]

ok than http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif Happy Happy
We Have Mappers !!

I Will Setup A Web page And Stuff
With The Rules And Mappers
Just Let me Know What Map Number You Are Doing

Maybe A Hosting Right Here At Newdoom
Maybe You Guys Can Help Out With That One ?
I Have Asked For Hostong Here Before I Didnt Get A Reply http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

[Sparky9212]

The Albino Negro [Lüt]
Haha I Dont ThinK So, Those maps... kinda suck

i think we can do better than that http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

[The Albino Negro [Lüt]]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Those maps... kinda suck</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>On the contrary, they are some of the most genius maps ever created http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Take a close look through them again http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[Melfice]

Okay, I have an idea, let's divide the game into episodes! 30 reg levels, that's 10 levels for each. I'll do the entry to hell, it'd be Map 11. Either way, I'll do Map 11 and Map 21. How's that? BTW, Let's post a list of mappers so far.

[Exl]

Here's the ones who've joined up:

Doom_Dude
Melfice
Ninja_Of_Doom
Agent Spork
Mystic
Aliotroph?
Exl

I don't know about Sparky9212 though, I couldn't make that up from his post http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif


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[Aliotroph?]

I'll join. I wanna make a tech level or something. I like tech levels. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Exl]

Well guess what, you're not the only one! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif
A bit of change from time to time is nice though.

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Count me out. I just don't understand how to do any of it and the maps I've made are all shite. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm23.gif I just don't get it. If anyone can get me a tutorial in plain english I'll maybe reconsider.

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[MidnightStorm]

I think I have a few old maps that I can revamp for Doom 2 and contribute to the cause.

MS

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

I think I'll try wadauthor instead. I've geard that's easy to use. Keep me in keep me in. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Sparky9212]

Nope, No Maps From Me http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif
Im Not Of The Mapping Type If You Know What I Mean

BUT.. Im Guessing Im The Leader Since It Was My Idea, And Ill Be The One That You Send The Maps Too And The One Thats Making The Web Page AND The One That Will Package It Up
And Stuff

I Dont Know About A Web Page Yet, Until I See
People Doing Stuff I Wont Do Anything

Also, If Anyone Can... When We Know What The Names Of These Are, We Could Have Intermission Names For Each And Also Maby A Graphic For The Menu And Even A Start Up Screen But I Guess Thats Asking To Much http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif
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Ok Then Recap:

RULES:

Maps Must Be For Plain Doom2 (no port)

Maps Must Be As Error Free As Possible

You May use Boom Or Zdoom to Get Rid Of Doom Limits Like Visplanes ( or any other port )

No New Spirits,Music,Sounds,or Textures Just Stick With Stuff From Doom2.wad

There Is No Size Limit But Dont Make A Tiny Tiny Or Mega Huge Map

Difficulty Is Inbetween Easy-Hard

And You May Use Any Style/Theme

You May Use Any Editer You want

There Are No Timelimits, But Dont Take Longer Then Everyone Else

No Skill Is Required

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MAPPERS SO FAR:

Doom_Dude
Melfice
MidnightStorm
Ninja_Of_Doom
Agent Spork
Mystic
Aliotroph?
Exl

[Doom_Dude]

I'm thinking of making a nukage facility type tech map. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

And as for me, maybe a Deimos lab type map. I like the textures and that. That is as soon as I get wadauthor. It looks pretty straught forward compared to depsea. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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The animated series of DooM.
DooM E1M1 in flash (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/content.php?id=58822&date=1034136000)
Hope you know your beards.
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[Sparky9212]

Sounds Good People http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif I Guess I Should Mention That My Email is Sparky921@rogers.com For Finished Maps And Stuff, I Will Also Need Some Screenshots Of The Maps In Progress If I Do Make A Web Page

[Jon Wells]

Count me out... I'm working on my own projects, and I prefer to be alone. I will however ask for help if I get stuck.

Thank you, though... I hope your TC turns out great! ^_^

[Doom_Dude]

Ok Sparky! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Agent Spork]

I've started working on MY map for this thing...

[Doom_Dude]

Anybody starting a map should state what level slot they're using and the level name if possible. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Agent Spork]

Im starting a map. Map-6 if not already taken

[Sparky9212]

Ok Then, Agent Spork Has Map06
Anyone Else Should Also Pick Slot(s)
Im Gearing For A 30 Level Wad If Possible http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Spark me down for the map07 slot. I'm still not sure if I'll do a tech map or what... Have lots of Vilecore stuff on the brain right now. I'll start my map soon though.. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[edit] I also want the map03 spot. I found a map I had started ages ago of a green marble & blood temple... and I'll gear this one up as well. I'll get back to ya on the name. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Agent Spork]

My map's going to be marblish :P. I've already started on it, and I'll tell myself it looks pretty good. You guys may think otherwise when it's done, but I think it's neat so far... As for difficulty for my map, I'll have it like this

IM TOO YOUNG TO DIE: very easy
HURT ME PLENTY: Hard
ULTRA-VIOLENCE: Very Hard

[Doom_Dude]

Okee Dokee Spork. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I think Melfice said he wants map 11

I've got the map03 and map07

Spork got map06

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

What about map01 for me? If posssible I could take another one. I'm only going to do 2 at the least. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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Hope you know your beards.
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[Aliotroph?]

I call map10. Making a rather dark tech map. Was thinking of adding some nukage but I'll probably lean more on computers and pipes.

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[mystic]

Okay, I have a urban street type map almost finished (a rehashed old map). Im willing to knock out a few more in different styles.

Just allocate a few level numbers to me I cant be bothered choosing. I will make them in the same texture style as the originals.

Oh, it isnt a TC, its not using new sprites or new textures etc so its 'merely' a new megawad.

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[Sparky9212]

yes mystic its just a megawad http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif
if you want to do more then one, Great
we should all do more then one http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

mystic: tell me how many your going to make and il just fill in what we have

It Looks Like This So Far:
Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom
Map 02 - Mystic
Map 03 - Doom_Dude
Map 06 - Agent Spork
Map 07 - Doom_Dude
Map 10 - Aliotroph?
Map 11 - Melfice

[Melfice]

Hey hey hey!

I have the following:

Map 08: The Morgue (Tech)
Map 11: Deep (Hell)
Map 21: Molten Crevice (Hell)

There ya have it! Map #'s and the Level names.

[Doom_Dude]

Cool names Melfice!

I started my map07 wad last night.

Map03 Blood Temple (Goth)
Map07 The Lavaplant (Tech)

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[MidnightStorm]

I've started on map 30. I'm trying something a bit different... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

MS

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Humans are the world's most dangeous prey.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

I'm doing map01. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif I'm sticking with my deimos lab idea but more techie like. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Sounds cool Midnight and Ninja. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Exl]

Put me on Map04 and Map08! I've already started to work on map08.

Here's something stupid I came up with, hope you like\hate it http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/temp/ndcp.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

RThe download link for wadautor ain't working dammit! Could anyone send me a copy of wadauthor in e-mail? Use this address. AndrewAFE@aol.com. Thanks in advance. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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[Sparky9212]

Exl: I Like That Pic, I Think i Will Put It Up On The Web Page

And Melfice Already Took Map08 http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

This What I Have So Far And BTW Its Goin Great http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif:

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 - Agent Spork -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 -
Map 14 -
Map 15 -
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 -
Map 23 -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -

Edit: added exl and planky for 05 and 12

[Exl]

Ok then, slap me onto Map05, if I can have two in a row that is. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif

And Ninja_Of_Doom; The file has been sent your way! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm15.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Hey Exl that looks pretty cool.

I'm doing a lot on this Lavaplant and it's looking pretty good. I think I need a coffee now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Planky]

I'll take #12, but I can't garrantee anything thou, so if you guys dont mind helping a doom mapping newbie http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Sparky9212]

i should sy atht i will be away from tomorrow until monday afternoon
im not sure if i will be arouund a comp at all so i will try and keep up

[Agent Spork]

http://www.geocities.com/agentmegadoomer/sporksnewdoom/

There's one screenshot there... Not too much is in the map so far.. I hope I dont take too long on it.

[Doom_Dude]

Looks interesting Mr Spork. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

I'm taking no01. I have some great ideas for it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif
Oh and thanks for the editor Exl. I'm downloading it from the e-mail now.

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[The Albino Negro [Lüt]]

Hmmm... I've been in an editing mood lately. Unfortunately I've had no ideas to map. If anybody could give me a basic idea I might see what I can do with it.

[Exl]

I'm just wondering, how are we going to balance out the gameplay? Do all the levels have to be possible to finish by starting out with nothing more than a pistol? How about amounts of ammo\monsters, so that each map will have about the same difficulty? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm15.gif

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[Sparky9212]

no, not all maps will be possible to finish with a pistol, maybe the first 5 maps
(nudge nudge http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif )

not all maps are going to be the same difficulty thats up to the mapper
but dont make like 2 monters by 50 sectors http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif or dont make it impossible to finish
give reasonable amounts of ammo and health

i want to try to leave most of these dissions to the mappers http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Just use your best judgement on the difficulty. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Sphagne]

I wish I could join but currently I have about two and a half projects on my hand and could not possibly think about other projects! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

[Exl]

As to follow up on Agent Sporks screenshot post...:

Edit: Image removed

It's a little small and empty, but it shows http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

I don't think this is such a good idea for me. I can't seem to get hold of it. I don't do anything right. Everytime I try to add a door or a teleporter or if I do anything at all It fucks up! I can't do it anymore. Sorry,

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[Exl]

No! Don't give up! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm14.gif Keep trying until your brains pop! Have you tried to read some tutorials? It just takes some time! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

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[Melfice]

If my internet is up at my house this weekend, I'll post a screen shot.

I've been doing all of my internet browsing from school in an hours time. It sucks. Except Wendesday and Thursday I stayed until five due to some extensive online trading.

I can however give you a description:

The Morgue- a very dark level, uses alot of lighting variations. I may add you're lucky we aren't using ports, or I'd use the ZDoom Phantom zombies in alot of places. That's all I'll say, you guys will like it either way. However, I request that I can put a space sky into it, if I don't it won't look good, because there's alot of places that have openings in the ceiling. I'm sorry, but I can't stand that sky texture that's originally in the map. So, may I suggest that we can add reasonable sky textures and midis? In a way, if it's a community project, we need a way to personalize our maps, to distinguish who made one from another. All I ask is that I can add a midi and a sky texture!

[Ninja_of_DooM]

The thing is I have tried tutorials and I could probably learn japanese better than I could map for doom. I can't do it to save my life really. I don't have the patience. If there was a way to do it easily then I would come back. I mean I am so pissed that it upsets me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm14.gif
Does anyone here want to see what I've done on them? I could E-mail em to you.

I could maybe become our community wallpaper maker. What do you think?

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[Doom_Dude]

That's a drag Ninja. This projectile isn't going to be done anytime too soon so take a break and try again later. Your just green to doom editing and need more practice to get the little things figured out.



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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Ok then. Later. Mean while does anyone wanna see some of my wallpapers? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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Post em up. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Sparky9212]

looks good people !! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm7.gif like i said i am away from my own computer for now but i did mannage to get myself on a friends computer, i cant to anything for now http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Melfice wanted to know about the midi thing and the sky thing..... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I'm a little tempted to do a few custom textures for my Temple map. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Anybody have a map idea for the Lut dude?

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[Stphrz]

If Lüt joins I will http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

***Edit. Ok what the heck, count me in. I'll get started on a level this weekend. It'll be nice (maybe) but not big.

Doesn't matter which level I do. I'll take any open slot.

Oh and Lüt ya bastich, just spiff up one of your old already finished levels....

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[Sparky9212]

sure, just gimme the map number
and ill add ya in

[Doom_Dude]

CooL, Its the elusive Stphrz! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Stphrz]

Well, I was planning on doing a Mt. Erebus style level, so maybe map 28?

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[Doom_Dude]

Sounds good to me Stphrz. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 - Agent Spork -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 -
Map 14 -
Map 15 -
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 -
Map 23 -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -

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[Stphrz]

Thanks. This is gonna be a real retro map. Real Doom inferno style! Not Chris Lutz inferno style.

I can't do Chris Lutz but I can do Sandy Peterson :)

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[Aliotroph?]

I think all my new stuff is closer to John Romero than Sandy Peterson. I don't know if it's as good as Romero but I certainly got lots of ideas from him.

I don't have a name for this map yet. It's a computer map and it's going to be a bloodbath with lots of hidden monsters popping out and quite dark. That said, it's not going to be too hard cause I'm not as god at DooM as some of the people here.

Anyway, I don't have a place to host right now but maybe I'll submit to the featured shot thing later before I go to bed. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[mystic]

a lot of empty slots, Im sure most od us have old maps out there we are ashamed of now (I have quite a few) that could easily be re-built into decent quality maps. Did DD mention new textures??. If we can use textures Im willing to make a textures wad for the whole thing if all the folk using new ones email them or send them in messenger.

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[Aliotroph?]

Would be nice if we could. The posted rules say we can't though.

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

I've gone back to deepsae but I can't get doors in how do I actually get the doors in so I can open them and walk through without the other sectors wall getting in my way? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm16.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

That sounded a bit confusing. Anyway, I'll try and just explain a door as simply as I can. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

First, imagine you have 3 sectors in a row. The middle is the door. It's ceiling height is set to the same as it's floor. Then you make the lines on the front and back into a door type (type 1 will work for this). This will make a door that opens revealing whatever sector is behind it. If you don't want the textures inside the door frame to move up with it then set "Lower unpegged" in the linedef dialog for those walls. Of course the upper textures of the front and back of the door have to be set to something you want.

Should be easy to make doors in DeePsea because you shouldn't have to swap sidedefs after building the sectores (if you've never used DEU then don't ask what this means and does cause you don't want to know. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif).

DeePsea has a function to make a door out of a sector but I've never used it and I don't know how it works.

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Great. But are there spaces between the sectors?
Could you possibly post a screenie to?

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[DooMAD]

Excellent idea.

Although I'm not online much lately, I'll see if I can come up with something to contribute. I'll post next week to confirm or cancel.

[Ninja_of_DooM]

I have finally got the hang of things. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif Until I learn how to add doors in deepsea i'm using open doors. how do I add exits as well? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/confused.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Did DD mention new textures??. If we can use textures Im willing to make a textures wad for the whole thing if all the folk using new ones email them or send them in messenger.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I said I was tempted to make some. For now I'm just using the original DooM II textures for my Lavaplant map. Sparky said not to use new textures earlier on in this topic....

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[Exl]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">how do I add exits as well?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Simple, use the corresponding linedef type. Just look it up in WadAuthor. Besides, most tutorials also describe this...

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

I'm using seepsea now so I need to know how to do it for that.

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[Sparky9212]

thanks guys, this will probably be the last time im on a computer untill monday/tuesday
http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm14.gif i guess you guys can use new textures for your maps but they cant overight the ones in the doom2.wad
i was just saying you couldnt cus i thought they would overight the old ones
but it would be nice to see a texture pack http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

[DooMAD]

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How long is everyone else taking? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">i guess you guys can use new textures for your maps but they cant overight the ones in the doom2.wad
i was just saying you couldnt cus i thought they would overight the old ones
but it would be nice to see a texture pack</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

As long as two people don't give their texture the same name it should work. For example, I usually use WALL1, WALL2, etc.

If two people do use the same name it just means that there will be more work for the person compiling it.

[mystic]

Thats ok, Im used to farting about with texture wads.

This thing looks like it might be a bit special.

NINJA, I will try and find some easy to follow instructions for basic stuff like doors, teleports, windows etc. You might want to visit Doomworld, there are some really good tutorials there but Im not sure if they cover basic stuff

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Cheers Mystic. I'll look into it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Ok that's it then, I'm making some new textures. I gotta make a couple of new flats as well. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[DooMAD]

Can you do flats in vanilla Doom without replacing the originals?

[Doom_Dude]

Ah crap, never thought of that.

Damn these doom textures that have no flats that match. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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[DooMAD]

Maybe if we only replaced the really ugly ones no one ever uses...

[Exl]

If it's in the Doom2 IWAD, it's used at least once in the game... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

That's alright I don't have to use any new flats. I got it all figured out.

Made a new comp panel just now. Looks good so far.. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[DarkWolf]

Put me down for Map13 if it isn't taken already. I'll try to make a level.

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[Doom_Dude]

Alrighty DarkWolf! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 - Agent Spork -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 -
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 -
Map 23 -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -



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[Stphrz]

Bah, Doom2 and it's crap textures.

I was having a hell of a time getting my level to look right, until I realized those monkeys at id for some STUPID reason decided not to include several very nice Doom1 textures in Doom2.

Once I incorporated those Doom1 textures, my level started to take some shape.

I really hope this isn't going to be a problem. They don't replace any of the Doom2 textures. I've also seen this done before in other wads that have been released. Some of them are even the main archives.

In short, without these new textures my map just won't look right.

The good news is, I don't need any new flats, as I have all I need from the Doom2.wad.

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[Doom_Dude]

Hey you can always use those cement textures. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

Glad you got it figured out Stphrz. Look forward to checkin' out your map.

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[Stphrz]

I am using some of those cement textures as a matter of fact. With the right lighting and combination with certain other textures they can be made to look quite good.

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[DooMAD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Put me down for Map13 if it isn't taken already. I'll try to make a level.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll have MAP14 then. My level is called Sepulchre (tomb).

[Doom_Dude]

Okay cool Stphrz, if you can do something with the cement stuff then great. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif I know I did modify one of those cement textures for a Vilecore II map... now that I think of it.

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 - Agent Spork -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 - DooMAD -
Map 15 -
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 -
Map 23 -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -

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[Nickster]

Hmmm, if we got to use custom textures I might have joined in and do a map (damn, I havent touched wadauthor for ages!). http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

But then again, I lack inspiration anyway atm http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Come on Nickster! We could use a few more mappers on this jobby. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Agent Spork]

Can we pick out a custom midi for our maps? I would really like that. Having original doom music is kind of boring.

[Sparky9212]

Thanks Doom_dude for adding the members to the list, being away from my comp really sucks i was keeping a text file of everything http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif cant remember all of it

i again found another computer, so i am able to see whats going on http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

[Stphrz]

Here are some preliminary screens from the level I'm working on for this thing.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/stphrz/s1.gif

http://www.members.shaw.ca/stphrz/s2.gif

http://www.members.shaw.ca/stphrz/s3.gif

http://www.members.shaw.ca/stphrz/s4.gif

http://www.members.shaw.ca/stphrz/s5.gif

Will this do?

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[Doom_Dude]

Hey it seems you've been busy. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif Looking good Stphrz.

No prob Sparky. I figured I might as well keep the level list up to date while you were away. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I'm still building on my Lavaplant. Hopefully it might be finished in a few days if I can keep up the pace.

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[Sphagne]

Dont you change the sky textures at least? I can give you some better sky textures than the default doom ones and you can build your wads using them. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

[DarkWolf]

The only problem I have with replacing skys is that everyone would have to use that particular sky if there level was a certain number. But if everyone can agree on some skys, then maybe we can replace them.

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[Sparky9212]

ok agreed then, jive has some nice skys
maybe just pick what ever

im also looking for someone to change the menu text color the menu logo and the start up screen plus the intermission text to match the level names

you know http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif just making it look nice

btw nice looking map stphrz
http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm9.gif

and look here:
im missing Map 09 http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph

[Kaiser]

hmm...why didn't I noticed this thread before...

and whats even dumber is that I didn't even noticed the newdoom tc announcment at the front page... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif


anyways, I like to join, but I got my hands caught in a couple of projects.

one of them is Community Chest (cough)

but I'll take a spot for maps 31 and 32 if you don't mind http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif


edit: btw, can I use my own textures?
edit again: saw the rules, nevermind about the new textures http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

[Sparky9212]

hmmm, heres the problem... i wasent planning on making it 32 maps cus if you want to do that who ever does map 16 needs to add a secret exit and you would need to add a secret exit in map 31 too

though i would like 32 maps http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

edit: you can use new textures now, just make sure they dont overight the old doom2 ones

[Sparky9212]

Heres An Updated Rules:

RULES:

Maps Must Be For Plain Doom2 (no port)

Maps Must Be As Error Free As Possible

You May use Boom Or Zdoom to Get Rid Of Doom Limits Like Visplanes ( or any other port )

No New Spirits,Music,Sounds, Just Stick With Stuff From Doom2.wad

There Is No Size Limit But Dont Make A Tiny Tiny Or Mega Huge Map

Difficulty Is Inbetween Easy-Hard

And You May Use Any Style/Theme

You May Use Any Editer You want

There Are No Timelimits, But Dont Take Longer Then Everyone Else

You May Use New Textures, Just As long As They Dont Overight Old Doom2 Textures

[Aliotroph?]

Hmmm, I was going to rip a bunch of orginal DooM textures as well. My computer-tech level thing is coming along nicely (although not quite as fast as Stphrz's map) but man is it getting repetitive sometimes. I have a big maze just plastered with COMPTALL and COMPWERD.

How to you remove textures from a wad and import them as a whole? I don't really want to rebuild all those DooM textures from their individual patches. In fact, I'd have to teach myself that again if I did it. Or can Stphrz send me his texture wad? That might be a good plan actually since it would mean the name would be consistent.

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[Sparky9212]

yaa, i was thinking that too
i dont know how to do it so at the end when everyone is done, find someone to help out and do stuff like that...

[Doom_Dude]

ahem you can still have maps 31 and 32... just have the guy(s) making map 15 and 31 use a secret exit switch instead of the regular exit switch. That's what I did with Vilecore when I didn't want to have 'secret' levels but wanted 32 maps...

That's if you don't mind going from map15 to 31 to 32 and then back to 16....... to continue on through 17, 18 and finally ending at map 30.

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[Kaiser]

here's what I got after 10 minutes of testing.

this shot won't be in the final version of the map, its just a test to help me get an idea of what I should make for Newdoom TC map (31?)

anyways, I am going to get my other map for cchest out of the way first before I work on this one.

http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/kaiser/trash/m31logicalfactor_alpha.jpg

[The Albino Negro [Lüt]]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">If Lüt joins I will http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Alrighty, here I come!

* predicts release date being pushed back 2 years http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Hey D_D, or whoever else is a leader: gimme a theme to work with. The level will probably be small-to-medium sized, depending on theme and amount of detail necessary to make it work.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Oh and Lüt ya bastich, just spiff up one of your old already finished levels....</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Blaaaaaah! If there's one thing I learned from Millennium, it's to start from scratch.

For whatever reason, reworking an existing map is a lot harder than starting a new one. I thought I was all burnt out on editing for the last 2 years, but I decided to start a new series about 3 weeks ago and I almost scared myself with how quick I turned out these maps http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">I can't do Chris Lutz but I can do Sandy Peterson http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll cover the Lutz then http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">You May use Boom Or Zdoom to Get Rid Of Doom Limits Like Visplanes ( or any other port )</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>That's all I needed to hear http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Hey Sparky I think we're going with the 32 maps as Kaiser wants map 31 slot. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Hey D_D, or whoever else is a leader</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be Sparky.... it's his idea. Lut just make something cool. I have enough problems coming up with level names for my own stuffage let alone themes. Just don't go with a Cyberdemon farm. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">here's what I got after 10 minutes of testing.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks cool Kaiser but I think custom flats are out.....

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">For whatever reason, reworking an existing map is a lot harder than starting a new one.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tell me about it! Reworking existing / once considered finished maps is a royal pain in the assholio. Making from scratch is easier on the brain cell. That's why I decided to make new maps for Vilecore II rather than doing revamps of the 32 originals.


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[Aliotroph?]

My map is coming along happily. I think it's going to be sort of a medium-sized jobby. There's really only one area left that I'm almost completely clueless about. I've got more figured out with architecture than gameplay right now.

I really need to figure out how to get some more of those E1 tech textures though. Some parts of my map are modelled after Romero-style computer rooms and they need that thing that's a cross between COMPBLUE and COMPSPAN. I don't know how to import the patches AND the textures so they work like they did originally though. I can get the patches in AS textures but that will screw with stuff.

BTW: I made a strobing Romero computer maze that everyone will be scared of. Only difference is mine is bigger and has gameplay on two levels in sort of a 3D way. Strobe is also more painful in mine. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Anyway, I don't feel like doing any screens until a couple of my best rooms are more polished. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

My maps coming along nicley here. Not too high on the detail but I'm doing what I can. Just don't expect too much good stuff from me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif I would post a screen shot but I can't quite get it. I don't have PSP to convert the shot to JPEG and I have no idea where to put devparm in to eneable screenie mode or have a site to put it on. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif But everything is ok thanks to those who helped&gt; i can finally do it but I need to know how to add exits in deepsea. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

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[Exl]

Seems you guys are much better at this than I am. Not to mention faster too.

/me start WinDEU again

Edit: Before I forget, Sparky, I'll see what I can do about those menu title\intermission screen things. If it's allright with you I'll use that logo I posted earlier.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Just don't go with a Cyberdemon farm.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Hehe, nah, that's for the 1337 series http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Tell me about it!</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, back in 1995, I started these maps........ http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Reworking existing / once considered finished maps is a royal pain in the assholio. Making from scratch is easier on the brain cell. That's why I decided to make new maps for Vilecore II rather than doing revamps of the 32 originals.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, I think the reason is that it's not limiting. When you're redoing an old map, you're basically stuck in its framework. Want to add a building over here? Have fun moving the rest around to make room for it. I've reworked my final Millennium map well over 3 times in order to avoid having to restart from scratch, but now it's fully apparent I should have done it from scratch, and I just don't feel like taking the time http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm34.gif

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Have fun moving the rest around to make room for it.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly. Been there, done that and don't want to do it again. I had to move an entire level (map03 of Vile) just to fix a hallway. I think that was the point where I decided to scratch build the map for V II. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">I really need to figure out how to get some more of those E1 tech textures though.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Aliotroph? I could make a texture wad for you if I knew what ones you wanted.. Then again maybe Stphrz has the textures ripped that you want and you should talk to him.....

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[Sparky9212]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Edit: Before I forget, Sparky, I'll see what I can do about those menu title\intermission screen things. If it's allright with you I'll use that logo I posted earlier.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks exl http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif can you do that for the start up screen and menus too ?? like use the same font and color and background graphic it

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Hey Sparky I think we're going with the 32 maps as Kaiser wants map 31 slot.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
doom_dude: yes that is fine, i wanted to do that anyways but wasent sure. thought i like the idea of just going to map 31 after 15 instead of 2 exits
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now i dont know if i will be near a comp for the next 2 days, just letting you guys know

[DarkWolf]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">thought i like the idea of just going to map 31 after 15 instead of 2 exits</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately to do that you'd have to make it source port specific. Or note somewhere in the text file to idclev 31 after map30.

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Seeing as I can't post screenies of my map I'm going to give one lucky poster the chance to test what I've done so far. To get it you must answer the dead easy question: How Do I get the sky in sthprz level to work?



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[Kaiser]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Looks cool Kaiser but I think custom flats are out.....

</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>


oh fiddle sticks.. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif


I guess I won't use the new textures either since they sync very well with the flats.

time to change plans http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

[Aliotroph?]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Unfortunately to do that you'd have to make it source port specific. Or note somewhere in the text file to idclev 31 after map30.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that's not right. DD used this trick in Vilecore. On map15 and map31 you just use the secret exit linedefs instead of the normal ones. You can have 32 maps without having secret levels. You don't need any fancy source port gizmos. I agree that we should do this. Makes it seem more complete to have all the maps replaced. Especially since we have a volunteer for those two maps. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Can anyone see my last post? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm31.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Unfortunately to do that you'd have to make it source port specific. Or note somewhere in the text file to idclev 31 after map30.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

What? Are you saying the secret exit switches don't work in vanilla doom?

If I put a switch_secretexit in map 15 (instead of a switch_exit).. I'm sure it's going to take me to map30 port or no port. Maybe I'm wrong. Now I'm confused..

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[Aliotroph?]

DD, you missed my post. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif I already cleared this up. There is no problem with your idea. And it works great in Vilecore! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Oh Ok, I did miss your post as I ended up messing with some sump pump stuff here in the basement before I got to fin my post. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I saw your post Ninja but I didn't get the secret question.

To combat the flat problem I decided to make some custom textures that uses some doom flats as a base. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[DooMAD]

Sorry to be a bit awkward, but could I please switch to MAP22. The red sky looks much better in my map than the city one.

DooMGoaT is also interested in the project and would like map 20.

[Doom_Dude]

No problem at all DooMAD! I also added DooMGoaT and Kaiser. Here's the new list jobby...

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 - Agent Spork -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 -
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -



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Ok, who actually wants to test my map? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Agent Spork]

Is it too late to change my map from map05 to slot for map 15? I think my map is going to be a bit hard for the 05 slot.

My maps name is going to be Barons Keep X.

[Doom_Dude]

Map list revision! Spork is now on Map15.

13 empty slots! We could use a few more mappers.

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -

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Put me down for anything under 20. I feel like having a bash at another map.

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[Doom_Dude]

So how did your first map come out? Send me the map and I'll have a look at it. How far done is it? Have you gotten bored with it or something?

I put you in the map 23 slot.

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl -
Map 06 -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -

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[Exl]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">can you do that for the start up screen and menus too ?? like use the same font and color and background graphic it</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll see what I can do. Should I replace the small characters too? Gonna be mighty busy... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Edit: I forgot something again... You can put the name 'Disdainful' at my Map05.

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Sounds Cool Exl. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I'm making good headway on this Lavaplant map. Should have a few screenshots ready soon. Can we expect to see the site in the next week or so Sparky? Not trying to rush you... just curious. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl - Disdainful
Map 06 -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 -
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -



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[Exl]

I keep forgetting stuff! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

Oh well. Has it been approved to add custom music to your map? As said earlier, they can give the map a more 'unique' feel. I think that as long as the music fit's the map, it should be ok.

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Here is the last set of rules Sparky posted..

Maps Must Be For Plain Doom2 (no port)

Maps Must Be As Error Free As Possible

You May use Boom Or Zdoom to Get Rid Of Doom Limits Like Visplanes ( or any other port )

No New Sprites, Music, Sounds, Just Stick With Stuff From Doom2.wad

There Is No Size Limit But Dont Make A Tiny Tiny Or Mega Huge Map

Difficulty Is Inbetween Easy-Hard

And You May Use Any Style/Theme

You May Use Any Editor You want

There Are No Timelimits, But Dont Take Longer Then Everyone Else

You May Use New Textures, Just As long As They Dont Overight Old Doom2 Textures


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[Exl]

Too bad then. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

Would this be nice for the menu font?

Edit: Image removed

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Actually take me out of that new slot. I'm not bored with my map I just thought I should get a new slot. But now someone else can have it. I'm still doing map 01 though make no mistake about it. I like it so far I've done a few rooms but it still looks rather bland until i'm finished it. It's now got a name called "killing floors" and I've got one in so far. The second one is at the end. The first one will show you how good you are in a tight space in a fight. I've sent you the map DD. Feel free to post some screenies. They wanted it hard so I made it hard. Kinda like Plutonia. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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That looks cool to me Exl. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">I'm still doing map 01 though make no mistake about it.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay I'll take you out of the map 23 spot. I'll look at your map later. I don't have anyplace to post screenies at the moment. I'm waiting for Sparky to put that site up.


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[Melfice]

Okay, I'm back. Unfortunately my net got shut off over the weekend http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif. It'll be turned back on soon, until then you'll here from me only here at school.

Wow, alot's happened since I'm gone.

Great! We can use new textures! It's a good thing, because I already ripped and am using several Doom 1 textures and Final Doom textures. Sorry, but when I have a desire to create nothing blocks it.

No one's mentioned anything about specific skies. Hmm, how about this:

Space Sky (Has stars mainly) from Final Doom
Red Sky (Doom 1 Episode 2: Shores of Hell)
Third Sky???

The best of the Doom skies, in my opinion.

Now, as for my maps, they are well under way, but you have NO IDEA how hard it's been for me to use Doom 2 textures, I've been editing Doom 64 style levels for Dark Nexus for so long, it's really odd. I'll go off looking for a Doom 64 tech texture for The Morgue, and go "D'oh! No D64! Aaahh!" However, with the way I use the lighting it's still good, but I have one request Sparky:

PLease let me use a midi I found in Final Doom, it fits perfectly for The Morgue.

Also, progress has been going smoothly enough on Deep and Molten Crevice, that I've decided to take Level 29. I'll call it "Believe." THe main reason behind the name is because Disturbed's new CD, entitled "Believe," is awesome, and I've been listening to it while editing levels.

Okay, another question, it says we may use Boom or ZDoom to get rid of evil visplain overflow erros. Now, also, you say it's for plain Doom2 and not for a port. Does not those rules contradict the other?

[Doom_Dude]

I don't want a space sky appearing in my Lavaplant map. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Okay, another question, it says we may use Boom or ZDoom to get rid of evil visplain overflow erros. Now, also, you say it's for plain Doom2 and not for a port. Does not those rules contradict the other?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beats me! I thought the ZenNode requirement would take care of any visplain errors.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2"> Final Doom textures.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope this ripping of textures from other games isn't going to cause a problem. It would suck to have Team TNT pissed off at us for using thier stuff without permission...

Well this is a learning experience. I know now what I'll do when it comes to any team based Megawad I do in the future. Which is something I've been thinking about for the past year. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Hey Ninja I checked out your map. It's kinda hard for a first map. I mean you have Hellknights and a Pain Elemental in there already. You have a lot more work to do on this. I'd say you should consintrate on building the map and then adding your monsters. Maybe you should move the map to slot 23 if you plan on it being hard. Oh and that first door goes into the sky. I hope you fix that. The first room looks pretty good with the blood fountain thinghys... You also have some kind of weird error going on in the pain elemental room that ZenNode wouldn't fix.

Map 01 - Ninja_of_Doom - Killing Floors
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl - Disdainful
Map 06 -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom -
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 - Melfice - Believe
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -

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If you could rip the PSX doom hell sky(the animatd flames) Would you use that? I love that sky But Idon't have PSX doom anymore nor can be bothered setting up my PSX. I'll get it off a friend. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif
Thanks for deciding to test my map DD.
If you're talking about that room s wall being 2 sided I only found out and have already fixed it up. Move it on to slot 23 then. I think I did over do the monsters but it was supposed to be hard. I found it relativley simple but just move it to 23 anyway.

Thanks for the pointers, I'll fix all these wee bugs as best I can.

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[Doom_Dude]

Did you miss my post Ninja_of_Doom? You posted just after me.


The room with the blue textures... there 2 walls that should be one-sided.
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[Doom_Dude]

Ok Ninja. Keep working on it! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

If your sure about moving it then cool. I think I might do map01 then. I have an idea. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Map 01 - Doom_Dude -
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl - Disdainful
Map 06 -
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom - Killing Floors
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 - Melfice - Believe
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Actually when I went to reply you're post wasn't there yet. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif LOL. I got the post though.

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LOL. I think we did it agin. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

DOH! I've fixed them as best I can. I changed the height of the sector where you told me about that first door. It should be fixed along with that blasted wall. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

What I usually do with doors... when I have a high celing room is make a sector between the high room and the door and make that sector the same height as the door texture. So say you have a outside area that is 256 high, I then make a sector 128 (for the bigdoors) attched to the 256 high area, then make my door sector (so what you have is a doorway sector in between your door and your room). That helps a lot when your connecting areas and looks a lot better.

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Something like a small alcove in front of the door? I see what you mean. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Oh and I can't do much on it cos I have exams starting next week so I haveless time to work on it. Don't expect too much in the next 2 weeks. Studying needs to be done. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm15.gif

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Okay Ninja_of_Doom go study. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Stphrz]

Meh. I'm going to have to slow down a bit. My map is quite a bit bigger than I had planned, and it's starting to get away from me. (Dontcha hate it when that happens?)

/me takes a deep breath.

I'm just going to backtrack a bit, and detail the areas I've already built and clean up various things. The inside of the buildings in my map look good, but the outside is a mess.

Hey Doom_Dude hows about you post some screens from your map? I wanna see it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Planky]

Yeah, let see some screenies D_Dude

Anyone know of a editor that works in xp?

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Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?

[derek]

Planky: WadAuthor may work.

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[Doom_Dude]

I know SFA about XP and editors.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Yeah, let see some screenies D_Dude.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not ready to expose my masterpiece just yet. I'm kinda ticked off that one of my textures changes color from a distance in software mode. Oh well, softmode sucks anyhow. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Boingo the Clown]

Stick me down for map 06 -- The Cess Pit.



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[Agent Spork]

Since this is a community project, I thought I would put up all the half-way decent builds I make.

http://www.geocities.com/agentmegadoomer/sporksnewdoom/baronskeepx_33.zip

Please do check it out, give suggestions, and comment.

Please do NOT edit the wad without first asking...

It might be kind of a mess at the moment, and you do know I'm very slow... It might take me a while to get this map done.

BTW- It looks very NICE in JDoom with the latest texture update from the D2 Retexturing project site http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Okee dokee Boingo. You're the kinda guy we want working on the septic. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I also named map01 as Desecrated Paths..

Map 01 - Doom_Dude - Desecrated Paths
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl - Disdainful
Map 06 - Boingo The Clown - Cesspit
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 -
Map 17 -
Map 18 -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom - Killing Floors
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 - Melfice - Believe
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -

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[Aliotroph?]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Okay, another question, it says we may use Boom or ZDoom to get rid of evil visplain overflow erros. Now, also, you say it's for plain Doom2 and not for a port. Does not those rules contradict the other?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, these don't conflict. DooM and DooM II have seriously nasty limits on what they will render. If you make architecture that's too complex the game crashes with a visplane over overflow. Using most ports to play the game will fix this issue (basically anything newer than BooM). That's why you don't see very complex rooms in the first 3 episodes of DooM. Up until version 1.666 it would only allow 16 two-sided lines to be visible at one time or you would see a major HOM effect. I once built a room so complex that happened in v1.9. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Anyway, the idea is this wad can't use port-specific editing features but it can be so full of complex architecture (and piles of sprites) that you need a port to play it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Boingo the Clown]

Yeah. I once built a church that suffered from edge overflow HOM, and that is nothing compared to the complexity I am capable of creating.



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[Doom_Dude]

Whatever, I'm building something that looks like something. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

I'm looking forward to running this in Legacy and JDooM. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, I built a church that had the same problem until I upgraded my version of DooM.

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[Doom_Dude]

I never had that problem but I didn't start mapping till 98. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/eek.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I started at the end of '96.

Parts of the map I'm playing now would have that problem. This map is all computer rooms and corridors though so the range of visibility isn't too far. It's getting lots and lots of detail though. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Sounds very Aliotrophish? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I'm working on 2 maps at once. I'm trying not to make map01 too big while making it look good. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I'm making parts of my map very very dark (light level of 80 - 100) just to make it super scary. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Any secret areas in your map? I think everyone should remember to add at least one secret per map. Just put one in map01... is so obvious it'll be overlooked easily. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Agent Spork]

No comments.. That makes me sad... *cries*

[Stphrz]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Doom_Dude sayeth:
I'm not ready to expose my masterpiece just yet. I'm kinda ticked off that one of my textures changes color from a distance in software mode.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Just use 255 lighting. Problem solved. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I can feel my retinas burning already. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif

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[Agent Spork]

My map sucks

[Doom_Dude]

What's the problem Spork?

I tried to download your map but the page wouldn't load. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

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[Agent Spork]

Try right-click and save as. I'm just trying to make a neat marble/hellish map with alot of my two favorite monsters, Hell Knight, and Baron of Hell. Im not going to fill it up with shitloads of them, and it WILL be possible to beat if you just up and start out with a pistol on the map. I like hellish maps! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Doom_Dude]

I like hellish maps too.

I got your map downloaded. It looks ok to me besides the couple textures unaligned. Keep working on it.

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[Aliotroph?]

I've decided my map is going to have mostly smaller monsters since it doesn't have a lot of big open areas. Lots of imps, chaingun dudes and lost souls/cacos I think. And I'm going to use lots of devious placements for them to really shock the player. Works well with the fact that half my map is very very dark. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

And yes I'm working some damn tricky secrets in. And maybe some not so tricky secrets.

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[Doom_Dude]

Sounds great Aliotroph? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Here is a preliminary shot of my Lavaplant map. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Temp/tempscreen01.JPG

I emailed FACE.UK and he said he'll do 3 maps http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Map 01 - Doom_Dude - Desecrated Paths
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl - Disdainful
Map 06 - Boingo The Clown - Cesspit
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 - FACE.UK -
Map 17 - FACE.UK -
Map 18 - FACE.UK -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom - Killing Floors
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 - Melfice - Believe
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -

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[Aliotroph?]

Coolness.

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[Agent Spork]

Ooohh... Nice map!
It appears the almighty FACE.UK has join in on this megawad! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Thanx. Wish I could make a big assed turbine that the player would get caught in. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Yeah FACE is in. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Stphrz]

Oooh. That's purty schweet Doom_Dude. I like the way you make big indoor areas. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif



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[Doom_Dude]

Thank you Mr. Stphrz. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

I'm at the point where I should the level just make it a little bigger.... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Sparky9212]

Hello Again People !!

I Just Got Back Last Night
Though i was much to tired to even think about turning on my computer http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif just read all the posts i missed
and it looks great

Exl: Those Look Like Awesome Menus !! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
No We Dont Need Small Characters. And "IF" You Want. can you make status Numbers Too ?
If You Do That,i can use that status bar graphic from the newdoom2.wad
Doom_Dude: Thanks For The Help, btw nice map !
Mystic: I Thought You Were Taking More Maps
Kaiser: Wernt You Taking Map 32 Aswell ?

i Also Found Some Interesting News In My Inbox Today, The Owner Of www.doom-sector.com (http://www.doom-sector.com) Has Offered Me Some WebSpace For Hosting The Web Page... thats very good news !!! cus i was going to have it at geocities http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif

8 MAP SLOTS LEFT PEOPLE !!! Heres An Updated List Of Rules, Team Members And Maps (http://sparky.suhost.com/newdoom_tc.txt)

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm41.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Ummmmmmm, why not have it hosted here? Seems weird to have it hosted by doom-sector when it's a newdoom megawad as in newdoom.com forums megawad. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Sparky9212]

yes that does make sence
but the last time i asked for hosting here at newdoom, i never got a reply http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif
ill email again and see
but dont i have to pay to get hosted here ?

[Doom_Dude]

No you don't have to pay to be hosted here, not for a small doom related site. This site and the finished megawad will be what.... a whopping 10mb if that? Geez that's nothing. It's not like were going to have a lot of files. Anyhow it won't hurt to ask about being hosted here. Well anyways host it wherever you want, I just thought newdoom would be the logical place for it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[edit]Just found this email addy for getting the hosting info Sparky: hosting@newdoom.com

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[Sparky9212]

thanks DD

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Emmmm, DD. Could you send me the map I sent you back? I made a hell of a fuck up and deleted a whole load of my map Which would take too long to fix. I need to get that map back. I tried the idea of yours on one of my doors seeing as I couldn't do it on the first one and It worked.

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Patrick Moore playing his xylophone. (http://www.b3ta.co.uk/patrickmoore)
The animated series of DooM.
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[Doom_Dude]

Okay I just sent it to you. I had to pull it out of my recycle bin. Did you say the tip worked or it caused problems trying to do it?

Welcome Sparky. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Exl]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">can you make status Numbers Too ?
If You Do That,i can use that status bar graphic from the newdoom2.wad</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm a little confused... What exactly do you mean by 'status numbers'? And what is that newdoom2.wad?

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

The tip worked for me but I ran into a problem with something else and had to get the map back.
Sure you mailed me DD. I haven't got an e-mail yet.

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[Doom_Dude]

Oh Okay Ninja_of_Doom.

newdoom2.wad? Is that the wad Lut posted about? Speaking of that, what are we gonna call this if somebody already used the newdoom name for a megawad?



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[Exl]

No, it's not the wat Lut posted, that was named 1337.wad for some reason...

How about just 'NewDoom Community Project'? (I'll have to redo some graphics if that'll change http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif )

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[Doom_Dude]

The Newdoom Community Megawad Project Jobby. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Maybe Sparky will let us know what he wants to call this project.

Newdoom Community Megawad?

What did you call it on the graphics you made? I wasn't trying to change it. I has assumed the newdoom name was taken for a megawad.

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[Agent Spork]

there's another build (number 47) of Baron Keep X here:

http://www.geocities.com/agentmegadoomer/sporksnewdoom/

Note the lack of too much difference. There is an easy to find secret in there too... I have a feeling Im going to take to long on this (I am a n00b though, remember that)

[Exl]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">What did you call it on the graphics you made?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just as I said, 'NewDoom Community Project' (NDCP for short http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif )

Let me show some screenshots of the part I've done so far:

The intermission screen
Edit: Image removed

The title screen (little empty...)
Edit: Image removed

The Credits (some names are still missing, several people have joined since I made it):
Edit: Image removed

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[Doom_Dude]

Spork this project I'm sure is going to take awhile to complete, so don't fret. I bet you get yours done before some of the others. It's great your working on it and that's the main thing. Just keep picking at it whenever you can. You proved you can map with that lava dm wad you released. I'll check out your update later.

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[Doom_Dude]

Exl that looks great! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

I don't think theres a need to change that, honest. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Exl]

Thanks! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

/me blushes a little

So we all agree on the name then?

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[Ninja_of_DooM]

Wow!! those are fucking great! great job Exl. I've had a complete design rethink and have gone for a less techie style level and gone with a more monster condo theme. The first 2 rooms look real nice BTW. I'm finding it easier to work with.
I go with that new name as well.

I was wondering how to change the level music cos I want to change level 23's tune to go with my level a bit more. How do I do it?

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The animated series of DooM.
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[DarkWolf]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">The Credits (some names are still missing, several people have joined since I made it)</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holly shit, someone actually capitalized the "W" in DarkWolf. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Melfice]

Expect 1 to 2 screenies from each of my levels:

Level 08: The Morgue
Level 11: Deep
Level 21: Molten Crevice
Level 29: Believe

And just so you know, "Deep" isn't necissarily a hell level http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif. Nor a mine type level. It's tech. You'll see why I've named it "Deep" once you play it.

Oh, and I have the solution to the sky problem: MAPINFO files.

Does anyone here use DeePsea? I'm sure they do. I use the mapinfo files to put the sky I want and map name I want. Ask Kaiser, he tought me how to do it. Why don't we just use the Space Sky, the Doom E2 Red Sky, and some other sky, then use mapinfo files to specify one of those? Then, Doom_Dude, you wouldn't have a star sky in your Lava Plant.

[Sparky9212]

Those Look Awesome Exl !! Glad That Your Apart Of This Project

I Ment The Numbers That You Use For Ammo And Health And Stuff
Cus If You Make That Then It Would Replace The Numbers On The Intermission Screen Too
I Think http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm15.gif And Theres Also Other Stuff Like The % And The - Signs And The Pause Graphic Are Also Needed

Newdoom2.wad Is An Old Compilation

Also, Would You Be Able To Make That Title Screen Pick 1024 X 768 ?? Im Thinking We Can Use That As The Background For The WebPage http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

I Didnt Know That Lut Joined !! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif

[Agent Spork]

Woohoo!!

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah Lut said he'd do a map but he never specified what map slot he wanted.

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[Agent Spork]

That always helps

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Better update the list jobby DD. I've changed my map name again. Easier to work with style. I'll be able to blaze through it hopefully. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[DarkWolf]

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That would work if you named the skys sky4-6 so vanilla doom players would have just the normal skys.

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[Doom_Dude]

Level List Updated http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Map 01 - Doom_Dude - Desecrated Paths
Map 02 - Mystic -
Map 03 - Doom_Dude - Blood Temple
Map 04 - Exl -
Map 05 - Exl - Disdainful
Map 06 - Boingo The Clown - Cesspit
Map 07 - Doom_Dude - The Lavaplant
Map 08 - Melfice - The Morgue
Map 10 - Aliotroph? -
Map 11 - Melfice - Deep
Map 12 - Planky -
Map 13 - DarkWolf -
Map 14 -
Map 15 - Agent Spork - Barons Keep X
Map 16 - FACE.UK -
Map 17 - FACE.UK -
Map 18 - FACE.UK -
Map 19 -
Map 20 - DooMGoaT -
Map 21 - Melfice - Molten Crevice
Map 22 - DooMAD -
Map 23 - Ninja_of_Doom - Demonic Mansion
Map 24 -
Map 25 -
Map 26 -
Map 27 -
Map 28 - Stphrz -
Map 29 - Melfice - Believe
Map 30 - MidnightStorm -
Map 31 - Kaiser -
Map 32 -



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[Aliotroph?]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Does anyone here use DeePsea?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

So that's why he calls it Deep! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Zuh?

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[Aliotroph?]

His level is called Deep.

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[Doom_Dude]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh Okee dokee........ http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm25.gif

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