PCGamer: of Unreal 2 & Morrowind [Archive]

Deathgiver

March 4th, 2003, 03:52 PM

I just got my April issue of PCGamer

They rated Unreal 2 a 72%

"Final Verdict

Highs: Gorgeous graphics; High production values;Cool new weapons; Expansive leval design

lows: Cookie cutter storyline; redundancy in mission objectives; Ocasionally just plain dull.

Bottom line: Pretty to look at, but doesn't have alot going on upstairs."

Morrowind: Elder scrolls III is going to have another expansion pack in May called "Bloodmoon".

Doom_Dude

March 4th, 2003, 04:04 PM

PC Gamer I don't read anymore. I think Unreal 2 should get an 80%

I was going to make a Bloodmoon topic. It looks really cool and I can't wait to play it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 5th, 2003, 10:15 AM

Is morrowind that good? Should I buy it?

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Doom_Dude

March 5th, 2003, 02:01 PM

It depends on if you like a massive RPG in a First Person perspective with awesome graphics and a quadzillion quests to do and places to go or not. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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The Undertaker

March 5th, 2003, 02:57 PM

Don't you do a lot of walking?

Doom_Dude

March 5th, 2003, 05:56 PM

Yeah, you do a crapload of walking.

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Aliotroph?

March 8th, 2003, 12:49 AM

Daggerfall had a world twice the size of the UK so I don't want to think about how big Morrowind is. I wonder how you make VIS data for a world so big. Is it divided into seperate maps?

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 8th, 2003, 01:39 AM

More than likley. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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Doom_Dude

March 8th, 2003, 09:23 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Daggerfall had a world twice the size of the UK so I don't want to think about how big Morrowind is. I wonder how you make VIS data for a world so big.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never played Daggerfall so I can't compare, though I suspect Morrowind is a bit smaller. The fascinating thing about the geography in Morrowind is the Ocean. This dude made a mod that's offshore. It actually takes you 5 minutes of walking to get out there using a water walking spell. I read that you can walk forever and the engine just keeps making water. I'm not sure if that's true or not but nobody has ever found the edge that I know of.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Is it divided into seperate maps?<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

There are no actual maps but something called cells. So your walking along and the game will pause as it loads the xtra info it needs for the area your entering. You don't really notice any difference in the landscape....... meaning you don't see a stand of trees suddenly appear after a load or anything like that. One of the things that impresses me big time is the ground textures. The textures flow nicely from grass to rock to volcanic ash looking stuff without a seam. I wonder how they did that on such uneven ground. It truely is an amazing game that lets you go where you want to go without any of that linear crap.

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iori

March 11th, 2003, 09:05 AM

is it multiplayer only? I want to get it but i dont want it to be another mmorpg.

Currently im playing arx fatalis which is a pretty sweet game too - except for the jumping heh heh

Doom_Dude

March 11th, 2003, 09:12 AM

NOOOoooooooooooooo it's not one of them mmorpg's!!! It's 100% Single Player all the way with 0% Multiplayer support ever. The game would run like a sumo with cement boots over the internet.

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Aliotroph?

March 12th, 2003, 04:37 PM

LOL My kind of game. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

So basically, it uses seemless map transitions. Hehehe, that's cool. As for the ocean going on forever, that's an old trick you can find in a lot of flight sims and driving games. If you leave the pre-designed map, the terrain will go on forever (except in some games where it wraps around).

The ground texture thing is common to new games. They can even have the terrain change and still have seemless texture-mapping. It's cool. Generals has that kind of stuff if you turn up the graphics. I even have a crappy 3D version of Scorched Earth that does that.

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iori

March 14th, 2003, 09:18 AM

good me myself i dislike mmorpgs - unless starwars galaxies is any good. Pity i dont wanna pay a monthy fee though.

Doom_Dude

March 14th, 2003, 09:43 AM

I never played a mmorpgwhatchamacallit and probably never will. Monthly fees suck the monkeys ass.

The Morrowind developers even release a free plugin for the game now and then so that's cool. I'm really looking forward to the Bloodmoon mission pack because you'll get to stomp around in the snow hoping a werewolf doesn't scare the shit outta you. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Deathgiver

March 14th, 2003, 02:56 PM

According to it's ad you'll also have the option to become a werewolf.

Doom_Dude

March 14th, 2003, 02:59 PM

Yeah and you have to go out and get bitten by a Werewolf just like the Vampire option in Morrowind. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Deathgiver

March 14th, 2003, 03:20 PM

I guess I gotta find "Elder Scrolls III" I didn't know there was a vampire option.

Doom_Dude

March 14th, 2003, 04:20 PM

Yep I never tried it myself but you can become a Vampire and thus get to do a bunch of quests just for the Vampire part of the game.

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 15th, 2003, 05:23 AM

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif This I like. can you fly? If so, this could prove to be funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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Doom_Dude

March 15th, 2003, 06:36 AM

Yup you can fly with a levitation spell, or a scroll, a potion or make yourself an amulet or ring of levitating. It costs a lot of coin to have an enchanter enchant a custom ring, sword, shield, boots, belt or whatever you want. If your character has a high enough enchant skill you can make your own magical weapons and you even name them whatever you want. I made a weapon I named 'dreadkatana' from a daedric daikatana I found that does frost, fire and shock damage besides the weapons normal damage. The first sword I had enchanted I called 'Frostblade' I made from a two handed nordic sword that does frost damage. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif You have to have a soul gem with a soul in it to enchant stuff though. The more powerfull the soul the better items you can make. Of course you also find lots of enchanted items in tombs and all over the place. You might find a cool axe or whatever in a tree stump in the swamp.

You can make custom character classes so you could make a Ninja character with major skills in marksmanship, destruction, and other Ninja like skills. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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SavageMessiah

March 19th, 2003, 01:56 PM

Do you play with any plugins on DD? I use a ton of them, including a house mod that I modified. It lloks so sweet to walk into my cozy little house and see the shelves overflowing with books (the book rotate plugin lets you actually put them on shelves) and the tables littered with my enormous rare weapons collection, including the Skullsmasher and bow worth 75000 gold! Getting SkullSmasher was one of the more noteworthy of my tomb raiding expeditions on the east coast. God I love that game. I don't have tribunal yet, though. I think I should beat Morrowind first, before I get it.

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Doom_Dude

March 19th, 2003, 04:03 PM

I use a few plugins. I have all the official released ones, a Balmoral townhouse mod, one for making your own specialty arrows of diff types. You can make glass, ebony, gold, daedric and some others I can't think of and you have to find the ingredients for each arrow type, which is cool... Oh I also have the 'armor manequin' mod so I can assemble and collect the diff armor sets and display them. That works sweet! I made my own mod when the Balmoral Abandoned Townhouse got too small for all my stuff. It's a one level Stronghold that has a trap door entrance just below the Silt Strider in Balmoral. Hehehe it took me a lot of walking and casting recall to get my stuff from the townhouse to the new dwelling. I definitely need that book rotate mod. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Agent Spork

March 21st, 2003, 04:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade> The game would run like a sumo with cement boots over the internet.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO!

Aliotroph?

March 22nd, 2003, 12:01 PM

Someone post a pile of Morrowind shots up here. /me wants to drool over them. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 22nd, 2003, 01:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>The game would run like a sumo with cement boots over the internet.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

More like: "The game would run like a sumo with cement boots underwater over the internet." http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Doom_Dude

March 22nd, 2003, 02:26 PM

Did someone say post screenshots? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

http://pc.gamerweb.com/media/morrowind/morrowind_001.jpg

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 22nd, 2003, 02:30 PM

ooh, ahh, ooh la-la. *drools* Great. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm24.gif I've seen screens before but never THAT good.

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Kaiser

March 24th, 2003, 08:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>. I think Unreal 2 should get an 80%<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unreal 2 should of been rated a 30%

its a utter ripoff of other games.

Ninja_of_DooM

March 24th, 2003, 11:29 AM

I think it's good. The thing about games is they lose that magic you have when you pay them first time round. You can never feel that again. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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Aliotroph?

March 24th, 2003, 04:07 PM

Wow, that game is sweet looking. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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Doom_Dude

March 24th, 2003, 04:36 PM

I don't ever play a game and think it's a rip off of other games. If I was to do that id think they were all rip offs. Heh.

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 28th, 2003, 02:52 PM

On to other games, I just got HeXen today. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif Already past the first episode. It's a lot more different from the demo in the way the first level's built. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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Doom_Dude

March 28th, 2003, 03:56 PM

Hmmmm HeXen II you talkin bout?

Heres anouther HeXen II tip. If you want mouselook bring down the console with the '~' key type in +mlook and hit enter.

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Deathgiver

March 28th, 2003, 08:19 PM

Ninja could be talking about Hexen: Beyond Heretic. It is a neat game.

Aliotroph?

March 29th, 2003, 12:37 AM

I couldn't kill the boss in HeXen. Stupid thing is really really hard even though he's not too big.

It was a neat game though. You could do some really really cool maps with that but nobody appreciates it enough.

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Ninja_of_DooM

March 29th, 2003, 01:54 AM

Oops. I meanty heXen II. I already new the +mlook tip. It works in Quake too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

Think I'll maybe get Heretic next. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
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Doom_Dude

April 1st, 2003, 08:35 PM

The HeXen and Heretic series are all worth playing and HeXen / Heretic look really cool with the Doomsday engine. Heretic also looks cool in Legacy. The JHeretic mdl2's for Heretic look pretty cool especially the saber claws.... man those look sharp. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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