Map's Loadout?

[Doom_Dude]

Hey I was wondering is there a program that'll tell you all the items and critters you have in your map? Can Deepsea do this? I'm trying to better adjust items placement in Vilecore to make it more 'interesting'.

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[Exl]

If you want I could write you one. Err... in VB that is. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif Although I think DeePSea probably has a feature for that too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Ace]

Yep, Deepsea has a level statistic option displaying pretty much everything. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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....summoned the ghosts of the suitors, and in his hand he held the fair golden wand with which he seals men's eyes in sleep or wakes them just as he pleases; with this he roused the ghosts and led them, while they followed whining and gibbering behind him.

[Doom_Dude]

iori that would be cool if it's not much trouble.

Does the shareware version of deepsea have that option I wonder?

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[Ace]

Yeah DD, it does..that what I use.

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....summoned the ghosts of the suitors, and in his hand he held the fair golden wand with which he seals men's eyes in sleep or wakes them just as he pleases; with this he roused the ghosts and led them, while they followed whining and gibbering behind him.

[deepteam]

Load the level in DeePsea, then press F10 and select "Statistics". Left click or press enter on each panel and you'll get all the details.

Works for any size level even in shareware: www.sbsoftware.com (http://www.sbsoftware.com)

[Exl]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Doom_Dude:
iori that would be cool if it's not much trouble</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eh? Iori? That's not me, or is it? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm34.gif

Anyway, I'll see what I can do then.

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

OOps sorry Exl. I dunno how or why I typed iori. Duh!!!!!! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif That'll be great if you can do something with the idea. I really wouldn't want to install anouther editor just to use that one function.

Thanks Deepteam. Might try that later. lol http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Jow]

Hey Exl, could you make that program count those stats for modified monster health and missile/other weapon damage values?

That would be great too.

[Aliotroph?]

And then send the code my way. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[ToXiCFLUFF]

Lol, it's another hey Exl post http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gifDD

Hey Exl, could you write a program which adds the HPs of every enemy in each skill and then works out how much damage the player could inflict with the amount of ammo scattered around (ammo dropped from killing enemies counted too)? That would be really useful for getting the ammo supply just right - it would save so much time in playtesting.

[Doom_Dude]

OMG everyone wants this program. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

Hey I'm just trying to find what map of 32 I hid the BFG in. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Pate]

Doing this with Why's Python scripting is very, very easy. I was supposed to do this a long time ago, but I have been busy with other things.

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Tired of crappy Doom editors? So was I, that's why I'm coding my own (http://www.hut.fi/~jpakkane/why/).

[Doom_Dude]

Maybe now would be a good time to do that Pate. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Exl]

There's really a demand for this proggy? Okay then http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif It'll take me some more time since I want to get it right and add all the features you guys wanted. Well that and school started again. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

/me goes searching for his GPL license and his TRC (Thing Ratio Count) code...

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[iori]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">OOps sorry Exl. I dunno how or why I typed iori. Duh!!!!!! </font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

...hmmm it seems like you got something on your mind doom_dude! lol j/k

[Doom_Dude]

lol very funny! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

It's more of a case of duh than anything else. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Ninja_of_DooM]

yay. I got Deepsea just last night through e-mail. Now I can make all the maps I want. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Member of the NewDooM megawad team. Map 14: Jail Break.

My own little bunch of WADs. Containing 3 individual maps. Download it here (http://sparky.suhost.com/pub/hosted/ninja/ninja_of_doom_wads.zip)

Thanks to Sparky for the hosting.
If you would wish to host this then contact me at by E-mail. mailto:AndrewAFE@aol.comAndrewAFE@aol.com</A>

Hint to all Katana owners: Never sit on yours, It'll give you a very sore ass indeed.

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">There's really a demand for this proggy? Okay then It'll take me some more time since I want to get it right and add all the features you guys wanted. Well that and school started again.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah there does seem to be a demand for it. I was wondering if it would be possible for the program to also list the textures and flats used in the wad. That would be mucho usefull when it comes to porting a map with custom textures from on project to anouther, like what I'm doing now.


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">yay. I got Deepsea just last night through e-mail. Now I can make all the maps I want.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Make a fortress map and replace the Imps with shurikan throwing Ninjas.


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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
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[deepteam]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2"> I was wondering if it would be possible for the program to also list the textures and flats used in the wad. That would be mucho usefull when it comes to porting a map with custom textures from on project to anouther, like what I'm doing now.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>The DeePsea F7 - PWAD - Lump/Rename tool lists flats/textures used for 1 level or all levels in a PWAD.

[Doom_Dude]

Ahhh cool. Somehow I figured DS would do that. You keep this up and I might be tempted to get my wallet out. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[The Undertaker]

I'll be hiding in the shadow of your polar bear when you do.

[deepteam]

Lol - all this is available for free - since all these tools work in the shareware version with no limits.

[Doom_Dude]

/me smacks self in head

Of course theres a shareware version. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif I think my brain is fried from over_editing. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Exl]

Here you go guys, knock yourselves out:

TRC: http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/files/doom/trc_0.99.28_install.exe
Source code: http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/files/doom/trc_0.99.28_source.zip

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

/me dances with joy while downloading Exl's program. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

I got it first! I got it first! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

[edit]COOLNESS! This works slick.. Thanks Exl!

I just realised that the balances thinghy doesn't take into account the ammo that monsters drop. Can that be tweaked? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

You also spelled Revenants wrong. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Exl]

Thanks Doom_Dude! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Actually, I *have* taken dropped ammo into account, take a look at the doom.cfg file, and look for an enemy. It has DroppedAmmoAmount or something, and then the amount of ammo it drops (in conjunction with DropAmmoType). You can change a lot of the stuff throught that doom.cfg file. Including the "Reventant" typo http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Oh my mistake then! There seemed to be not much ammo in UV mode. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Hey there's 16 Viles in map32 of Vilecore. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Looking in the .cfg...... what the heck is a Billy Blaze?

This will help a lot in spreading out and balancing the monsters and weapons in my Vilecore Upgrade. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif

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[Exl]

Billy Blaze? That's the Commander Keen doll, I believe that was his real name. Take note though that it is a rough estimate, there's no way in hell any program can precisely calculate all that stuff, it depends too much on player movement\aim. Also remember to take a look in the readme.txt file, there's a shortcut to it in the start menu folder.

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Ahhhhhh I never heard it called Billy Blaze before. I did read the readme just after I posted last... of course it's a rough estimate like you say. The best guide to how hard / easy a map is, gotta be actual playtesting it. It's good to be able to see what gear / critters and thier amounts are in a map. That alone is a great tool.

Anouther thing that's hard to judge is the ammo / health a player carries over from one map to anouther in a multi-map episode. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[edit]Hmmmmmmmm where are all the other editing humanoids who were interested in this program.

Hey did Face.Uk do the news on this yet?


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[ToXiCFLUFF]

Awesome, I come back from a three-day break and find this :DDD


Thanks Exl!

[Jow]

The Select button does nothing. How I'm supposed to examine a wad, if I can't load it?

[Exl]

Eh? Nothing?

/me is baffled

The Select button is supposed to pop up a common 'Open file' dialog. Strange...

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Works fine for me!

Am I right that items / weapons / monsters that show under multiplayer are also present in the other skills? Just wondering if it's supposed to be that way.

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[Exl]

It works the same way as in the map editor, it's only useful to select one of those flags at the same time. If, for example, you select Skill 1\2 and Skill 3, you'll get doubled amounts (both things in Skill 1\2 and 3). It works the same for multiplayer, if it's the only one checked, all you'll see are the 'Multiplayer' flagged things, not based on skill.

Edit: Damned typos. /me cracks his fingers

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I already noticed the doubling amounts thinghy. That wasn't hard to notice. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif Was just wondering about the Multiplayer jobby.

This program has proven very useful.

Wonder why the select button doesn't work for Jow?

Damn I'm hungry!

/me wanders off for food.

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----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[deepteam]

Select button doesn't work for me either. Dead as a door nail

Running XP.

[Ace]

Wow! Cool stuff Exl http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

Select works for me,...win98 se

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....summoned the ghosts of the suitors, and in his hand he held the fair golden wand with which he seals men's eyes in sleep or wakes them just as he pleases; with this he roused the ghosts and led them, while they followed whining and gibbering behind him.

[Doom_Dude]

I'm using Wi98se here as well. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Pate]

I have now coded the same functionality as a Why script. You can get it here (http://www.hut.fi/~jpakkane/why/scripts.html).

It's amazing how much you can achieve with just 120 lines of Python. (although the part of the code that actually does something is only about 30 lines)

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Tired of crappy Doom editors? So was I, that's why I'm coding my own (http://www.hut.fi/~jpakkane/why/).

[Jow]

I'm having XP. Maybe you should make an XP compatible version?

[ToXiCFLUFF]

It doesn't work on Win2k either. Works fine on my W98Se computer though. Maybe I need to upgrade the VB runtime libraries on the Win2k computer, because I did that a while ago for the W98Se one.

Still, I've got the Why script for this PC in the meantime http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Exl: Are you gonna do the health analysis, or are you leaving the prog as it is??

[Exl]

I think I have the problem now, it must be something with the Common Dialog Windows API. The Microcoft bastards must've messed with that after Win98se. I'll fix that thing up and add the capability to check if a thing is in a secret sector and add the health analysis (I'll remove deathmatch, that's pretty mich impossible).

More Why stuff? /me downloads

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Can make it so that TRC will go fullscreen? Not that it needs to but I want it to. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif


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[Exl]

/me codes a fullscreen going function http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Cool.

Me was also wondering if it would be possible to add a check box that would subtract the Multiplayer things / ammo / monsters from the readout when you choose a skill lvl?

Hmmmmmmm then again shouldn't unchecking the Multiplayer do that?

/me confused myself

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[ToXiCFLUFF]

Ahh, you know what would be cool? A compare function. Like you choose two skills (e.g. HMP and UV) and it will display the thing amounts of the first skill picked with + or - the amount in the second skill picked.

Eg. Reventant 30 +10
Medikit 15 -6

This way you could see the spread between skills.

[Aliotroph?]

You gotta show me how you read the data from wad files sometime. That little block stopped me from writing the most advance GUI for ZenNode ever conceived. I've got it half done. It's probably only a day of work when I figure out that wad file bit. I just need to read the map names contained in the file. I'm doing it in VB of course. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Exl]

All these requests... I just picked up on WhackEd again, so be patient...

When the 'Multiplayer' checkbox is checked, multiplayer things are added to the other ones. Clear? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Reventant</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>I hope that was a typo http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

Aliotroph?: Some recommended stuff is the Unofficial Doom specs. The data format of the wad files, lumps, whatever is all in there. If you need some extra help, you can always catch me on msn (exile9000 at hotmail.com) usually 18:00 GMT and later

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

[Doom_Dude]

Roger that! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

So how's it going Exl?

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[Exl]

School has been taking up some time. But I have added the "secret" thing thingy by now. Downside is, it makes map loading a lot slower. Not unbearable though. I hope to finish it up soon. I shouldn't write short sentences. I should shut up now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Edit: And I think I've fixed that WinXP bug by now.

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

And he said: "Je suis le King du Fromage!"

[Doom_Dude]

Cool, you got more work done on it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

You should have a webpage for this new program.

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[Exl]

You pushed, and I fell over the edge. See the URL for the new version and misc nonsense.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/trc

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

Life is but for a short moment, death is forever. Live your life while you still can...

[Doom_Dude]

TRC is cool! I got the new version last night and started tweaking the ammo / monsters in one of my maps and the program has been a great help methinks. I'm also spreading out the weapons / monsters / things in Vile so that you don't get the chaingun till map02 and the blue armor until map04, etc.... so it's been a great help in finding and spacing out the items.

Can you add a 'Refresh' button next to the selected Map: that would reload the current wad your checking out? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Why does it say 'Thing Ratio Cunt' in the 'About' thinghy. LOL.

Can you add Heretic support sometime? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[edit]Exl I have 3 boxes of shells in my map in HMP and UV. I only have the skill 4 and 5 box checked yet it says I have 30 boxes. Shouldn't it add the mutiplay stuff only when the Multiplayer box is checked? There is 27 boxes in the map for Multi...

.......and yeah that's a lot of xtra multiplay ammo but I'm removing some of that now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Exl]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Can you add a 'Refresh' button next to the selected Map: that would reload the current wad your checking out?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sure thing

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Why does it say 'Thing Ratio Cunt' in the 'About' thinghy. LOL.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oops must be a typo
http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Can you add Heretic support sometime?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
I knew I should've done that before I released it. Okay that's for the next version also then...

Seems you found a bug too, I'll see to it when I'm not lazy.. err.. find the time. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Hehe okay Exl, sounds cool. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Did it say Cunt in there before? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif ....and I didn't notice. LOL

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[Exl]

Nah, before it just had a little dialog saying nothing interesting. At least now it's got some (belated) easter eggs. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Palladium]

/me cuts in a bit late
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">lol very funny!
It's more of a case of duh than anything else. </font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe its bacause theyre both Imps http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Imps all look the same don't they?. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif

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[ToXiCFLUFF]

The program now works for me on XP Exl, but it's buggy.

Each time I check another skill box the values get multiplied:

For instance on map01, I click on skill1/2 and it reads 8 health potions in the bonus section. I also check skill3 and it reads 16, and then skill4 and it reads 24.

[Jow]

Was just going to say the same.

It's better now, it works in XP.

I hope next version doesn't think that one thing can be 3 things.

[ToXiCFLUFF]

Have you ever had magic mushrooms Jow?

[Jow]

Can I add new ammo types to the TRC's doom.cfg?

My mod has different damage for shotguns(both shotguns have different damage, but same amount of "bullets" fired, expect that the supershotgun is able to shoot 4 shells at once), minigun(fires 3 bullets at the same time, making it look more faster) and smg(uses 9mm full metal jackets). So I need 4 "bullet" damages.

What about armor points for monsters then? I have armored monsters and the different damages do different damage against armored and non-armored enemies.

Answer for Toxicfluff:"I had some mushrooms(amanita muscaria/fly agarik) once, but they smelled too bad, so I had to throw away them.

I was going to chop them into little pieces and then dry them. But night in closed in a plastic bag wasn't good for them...

Some people say that you can make very good tea from amanita muscaria.

But don't drink that too often, otherwise your kidneys might start malfunctioning."

[ToXiCFLUFF]

(Looking at the stuff you said) Are you coding your own mod then Jow?

Heh, I tried some about a year and a half ago. We nearly got killed picking them in the field - a load of cows started charging at us and we had to run like hell through loads of spiky bushes and shit.

Had a really good time when I got home though http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Jow]

Heheehee... sounds fun.

Yeah, I'm coding a mod. Check the "Showcase" and find a topic named as Zoow: Alien Dimension if you want to see more.

Maybe I can compensate the monster health levels for TRC by adding more health than it actually has.

[Exl]

Mess around as much with the doom.cfg file as you like, you can add new enemies too, and change the damage amount to your hearts desire.

I already replaced those checkboxes with a combobox, so you don't need to screw around with that anymore in the next version.

Im currently working on Heretic support, but it's proving to be a bitch since Heretic's thing specs are sparse. And I don't play Heretic enough to knwo about the damage values. If anyone could help?

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[Jow]

I can help.

Most attacks use this:HITDICE(a) ((1+(P_Random()&7))*a)

Missile damage multiplier: (P_Random()%8)+1)*damage

Monster attacks:

Knight's melee attack: HITDICE(3)
Knight fires green and red axes. Possibility for red axe is 40/256.
Green axe : 2 and wind can affect it.
Red axe : 7

Imp's melee attack: 5+(P_Random()&7)
Imp's "skullattack": couldn't find damage it's maybe just this then: (P_Random()%8)+1
Imp's fireball: 1

Chicken attack: 1+(P_Random()&1)

Mummy's melee attack: HITDICE(2)
Mummy's missile: 4 (Tracer of somekind)

Sorcerer1's melee attack: HITDICE(8)
Sorcerer1's missile: 10
If it's health is below spawnhealth/3*2
then it shoots 3 fireballs.

Sorcerer2's melee attack: HITDICE(20)
Sorcerer2's missile attack: 1
Alternatively shoots 2 wizard spawner missiles, if they hit they do damage: 10

Minotaur's melee attack: HITDICE(4)
Minotaur's missile1: 3, it shoots 4 of them into different angles
Minotaur's missile2: 4, spawns missile3s while it flies. Explodes when it gets destroyed.
Minotaur's missile3: 4
Minotaur's charge dmg: 7

Beast melee attack: HITDICE(3)
Beast missile: 4

Big head's Ice ball: 1
When it explodes it spawns 8 ice shards that has damage: 3
Big head's fire column: 5
Big head's whirlwind: 1 and -3 when player is in it.

Snake missile1: 1 and wind affects this
Snake missile2: 3
Snake fires 3 missile1s and then a short break and fires one missile2.

Clink attack: (P_Random()%7)+3)

Wizard's melee attack: HITDICE(4)
Wizard fires 2 missiles: 3

Volcano blast1: 2, spawns blast2s when explodes.
Volcano blast2: 1

Heretic's explosion radius(is also damage):

TimeBomb/Normal explosion: 128
Minotaur missile2: 24
D sparil missile: 80+(P_Random()&31)
Volcano blast: 25

Player attacks:

TOP=Tome Of Power

Player Chicken attack: 1+(P_Random()&3)
With TOP: HITDICE(4)

Staff attack: 5+(P_Random()&15)
With TOP: 18+(P_Random()&63)

Gauntles: HITDICE(2)
With TOP: HITDICE(2) and damage caused to monsters is added to player health.

Goldwand: 7+(P_Random()&7)
With TOP fires 2 missiles: 1, and it fires 5 "normal bullets" with dmg: 1+(P_Random()&7)

Crossbow spawns 3 missiles: Center missile dmg: 10, Side missile dmg: 2 and wind affects
Wit TOP it fires 5 missiles: 3 center missiles dmgs: 6, and 2 Side missiles

Blaster: HITDICE(4)
With TOP it spawns missile: 2
Missile explosion spawns 8 rippers: (P_Random()&3)+2)*damage damage is 1

Hell staff missile: 3
With TOP fires missile which after explosion causes "acid" rain: 10
Rain dmg: 5 on every impact

Phoenix staff(rocket): 20 plus explosion dmg
With TOP it's a "flame thrower": 2
1 ammo per second, not very sure.

Mace fires ball1 and ball2. Ball2 possibility is 28/256.
Ball1 dmg: 2
Ball2 dmg: 6

If ball2 bounces, it then morphs to ball3.

ball3 dmg: 4

With TOP mace fires bigger balls(ball4).

ball4 dmg: 18

[Exl]

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm24.gif Whoa! Perfect! Thanks loads Jow!

All I need now are the initial health points a monster has, but I just figured I could read them that Heretic hack Editor proggy.

Thanks again Jow! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Jow]

Yeah, I forgot them. If you find them there, I don't make a list of them then.

[Doom_Dude]

/me rubs hands together. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Exl]

If you're cold, turn up the heater http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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WhackEd 1.23.199 (http://home.wanadoo.nl/dennis.meuwissen/whacked)

Life is but for a short moment, death is forever. Live your life while you still can...

[Doom_Dude]

Funny you should say that because I just did. It gets cold down here in my permafrost basement. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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[The Undertaker]

*Doom Dude's walls start melting*
Now what did I say about heaters in the igloo.

[Doom_Dude]

The igloo is put away for summer. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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