Vilecore Bugs/Suggestions Topic

[Aliotroph?]

Here's the deal. This is where we all tell Doom_Dude about the things that absolutely need to be fixed in Vilecore II. We can also post suggestions which he may or may not like.

1. Level 2 had that switch in the gray room that you can hit from below and skip half the level.

2. Level 4 (methinks) has a pedestal with some rockets you aren't supposed to be able to reach, but in Legacy you can by jumping (needs to be a little higher).

3. Addiction factor is very high. I can't get anything done. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Level 2 had that switch in the gray room that you can hit from below and skip half the level.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fixed that one yesterday, thanxs to you. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Level 4 (methinks) has a pedestal with some rockets you aren't supposed to be able to reach, but in Legacy you can by jumping (needs to be a little higher).</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm, I'll look at that tomorrow, but I think that is an ok to jump to box.. Originally you had to run off the lift to gain access to rockets. Was kinda hard to get but Legacy makes easier...no biggie http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Addiction factor is very high. I can't get anything done.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

KooL! Wait until version II. I can't stop playing it myself, what with all the kool textures and new areas http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif Ok so I said there wouldn't be new areas..just architectural vamping....sorry but some wee new areas cropped up http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

If there's anything else let me know http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif



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[Aliotroph?]

Vilecore looks cool in Vavoom. Too bad it's so slow it feels like Phobia. I found one mis-aligned texture, but what's the point. It was somewhere in level 2.

I don't know if it was just Vavoom's nodes builder, but I saw a room in level 1 where there were some sargeants behind a window that didn't do anything. They were looking right at me and were close, but they wouldn't move. I just killed them. That may have been a reject bug of some sort.

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[The Undertaker]

That shouldn't be right Vavoom since requires GL nodes (not ones made by Zennode but from glbsp). Vavoom itself is a messed up port, but it lets me play Strife in GL (no big differnces though).

[Aliotroph?]

WTF is going on then? Those guys didn't shoot at me even though they should have seen me and had plenty of room. I was only standing 3 metres from them.

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[Doom_Dude]

R U sure that the miss-aligned texture in map 02 isn't a secret area? I get that all the time....have anouther look....actually it don't matter because map 02 is a remake now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

It couldn't be. It was next to a window over-looking somewhere. It doesn't matter because it might have been one of those unfixable ones at angles. I just saw it because I happened o have a quite moment and look around. I was standing about 2 feet from that wall.

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[Doom_Dude]

No biggie. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif I can guarantee that no texture unalignments will be seen in the new map02.

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[Aliotroph?]

Level 6 has some mis-aligned textures in the room with the big flashing lights in the shape of a cross. The room had 3 doors. There was also a secret door I could see on the automap. It was in a room with an elevator at one end, a switch at the other, and some doors on floor triggers.

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[Doom_Dude]

2 mis-aligned textures in big room....yeah I know, and the ceiling lighting needs to be fixed because the little round lights are cut along angled wall parts....I hate that.

Oh and I noticed something in Legacy! You mentioned a hom thingy while looking straight up an elevator shaft. Yup and it's in my maps, the original doom maps. Go into any tall room and move around looking straight up. Textures disappear and pillars n' other structures do too....hom in elevator shafts, etc.. Some rooms are worse than others, so I guess it has something to do with the nodes? This always happens behind the player...kinda weird! Maybe it has something to do with opengl? Never tried 3dfx or software modes with this. I never noticed this before, until I looked up a shaft and said "WTF!" This is after running ZenNode too..

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[Doom_Dude]

Hom Thing Fixed (I think)! I cranked into 3dfx mode and hom thingy still happened! So I try software mode...duh! No can look straight up in software mode, so not problem! Anyways I couldn't make this hom shit happen whilst looking straight up using minigl! minigl rocks! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, parts of level 5 were really bad for that. Often I see holes in the map too. That's just a nodes with GL problem though.

I just passed levels 7 and 8 (like 5 minutes ago). Many of the rooms had the "who needs a light fixture?" disease. I found I few more guys who didn't want to kill me too.

I must say the Wolfenstein parts of level 8 are AWESOME! I've never seen that stuff done so well in my life. It looks awesome with the dynamic lights on the torches.

Since you're doing you own texture work I thought I'd point out that in one area of level 8 you used red furnishings with two different textures. The flat looks like carpet and the sides look like stone. Replace the red stone withe the carpet texture and it'll look really really good. There was a couch and some type of bed like this.
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[Doom_Dude]

Kewl.

This is very strange Aliotroph? I tried to get this hom thingy to happen again after switching back to opengl from minigl and there's no more hom in elevator shafts etc, when looking straight up. It's like the gl garbage was cleared up or somethin'....anyhoo tis no biggie. Not many people go around looking straight up http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

You don't have to report the square room / low detail / no lights disease....that's part of the reason I'm doing a ver2 http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

As far as the texture / flat problem goes, I had to use what was on hand at the time. This is something that always bugged me with the textures & flats in doom...a lot of the textures don't have a corrisponding flat or even a close match, which is just stoopid. This time around though, making a wall tex match a flat is a breeze (already had to do as much with the textures I made) http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif Couch will be fixed http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif Keep up the recon! hehehehe.

Glad you liked the wolf secret area in map08 http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

When you get to map21: The Rife Hive, I'd like to know what you think. It's my least favourite map in the wad....and I'm not very happy with it at all. Thinking about a really kewl replacement map...that I have 75% done....

Also I'm fixing the areas where I sometimes mixed the techno lights with the torches http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I'll have a look at that map sometime tonight. I'm probably not going to reach it on my own anytime soon. I find Vilecore's levels so big I get DooMed out by the time I've passed one or two. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Hehehe...no hurry my friend http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif By the time you fin Vilecore, I'll be on map 05 or somethin'

I'm starting a fix list.


Vilecore Fix List
This is a list of things I'll fix as I go through the maps. My main plan is to beef up the architecture and add custom textures, flats and some sprites. Some maps will of course, need a lot of work, while others will require less.

General Fixes.

1) Make Switches that are used once non-rehitable. There are a few here and there that need fixing. (suggested by Ferrari)
2) Remove most doortrak textures from elevators. (suggested by Aliotroph?)
3) Add ways out of most holes by adding teleporters. (suggested by King REoL who complained about map14)
4) Add exit signs. (suggested by Aliotroph? and Cybergeeker)
5) Fix any areas where I sometimes mixed the techno lights with the torches. (suggested by me) No biggie but I think it'll look better)
6) Add more ammo for CooP.

Specific map fixes.

1) Fix switch bug in map03 where switch was hitable from floor. (found by Aliotroph?) Area above is now changed to upper walkway along wall with addition of pillars and kool architecture http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif
2) Map05. Jump across area fix. Metal beam lowers, blocking player in with pink demons. If player backs out quickly, players progress is hindered by said beam. I played this area many times but I never tried or thought anybody would jump back in this spot. Your supposed to stay in with the critters! Fix=remove lowering sector. (suggested by Guru)
3) Map10 Shootable switch is hard to shoot in BooM. Works 100% fine with legacy + super shotgun or chaingun. Not sure about ZDooM.(Suggested by King REoL) Fix = lower switch.
4) Map14 Two Imps look like they're stuck together in first tower. They might look stuck but they ain't stuck together REoL. A linedef marked as "monsters cannot cross" keeps them close together at window, where they're able to provide flakk at door below. Will remove 1 Imp because area is extremely small and 1 dude is fine.
5) Map32 Fix that damned torchless alcove that requires the need to jump or noclip to proceed.

Major Changes
1) Map02 will be a remake from scratch, following the original floorplan. It's 90% done and looking really good.
2) Map21 Either revamp to the max or use 75% finished unreleased map as replacement. The Rife Hive could be the Dark Keep or Bastion of Dread http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif


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[Aliotroph?]

I just played map21. You were right. It's garbage compared with the others. It stil beats most old pwads though.

That beam on map05 caught me too. Just use a door with a 30 second timer or something. That should give a more desirable effect. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

That texture doesn't match the flat thingy showed it's face again on map09 in the heavy beam architecture. That map is damn hard. The viles keep getting me.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL stop looking at the beams http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif No metal flats are even close to the metal textures, except for one or two exceptions...but those aer diff textures from what I wanted to use. Anyhow that stuff will be fixed, obviously.

I don't know about the 30 sec timer....certain people will still jump out of the hole after triggering it, in search of a few rounds or something.

Viles in map09 getting you. Hahahahah! That's just practice for map32. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

That's what I meant. People will jump out of the hole, but they will only be locked out for 30 seconds instead of eternity.

I'm not sure what's actually wrong with map21, but it's just not as fun. It isn't as inpiring in appearence as the others either.

It's too bad I can't play some Vilecore right now. I'm in the computer lab at school trying to do some programming. I'm really stuck on a couple of things so I'm taking a break. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

The Rife Hive is a good name though http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I'm busy fighting a ceiling texture. Darned thing looks good but doesn't fit the walls...lol.

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[Aliotroph?]

I don't think the architecture matched the sky for that level. The red sky didn't mix well with the base themed level. Something about that place was too unreal in the wrong way. I'd love to see what you have in mind to replace it. So if you do any more screens...

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[Doom_Dude]

Well I might just fix what's there. It's amazing what some new textures and some new sectors can do to make things look better. I just ripped an old rock texture I had made, from a wad I created for half-life. Looks good in DooM too. Had to make a matching flat for it and these textures really changed the appearance of the revenant / tower / outside area in map03. Goodbye green stone, hello multi-colored white and tan rock http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

The possible replacement map might go in map21's place or be a part of the next megawad project. I'm on a roll now and a 2nd Megawad sounds like a good idea.

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[Aliotroph?]

Thanks for the mention on the page Doom_Dude! It's good to know I'm of some use in the world. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Hey no problem Aliotroph?! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif I have you in the the Vilecore 2.0 readme already too, along with anybody else who's been helpfull. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

YES! I just finished a nastly programming assignment! I'm going home to play some Vilecore!

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[Doom_Dude]

Awesome http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

My brother is playing Vilecore for the first time. It's also the first time I watched somebody else play it.....looks better that way for some reason. Hahaha, I couldn't believe how dark Powersurger looked on his monitor. LOL, he got throught it even though he did miss one switch because of the darkness! Hehehe...kewl.

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[Aliotroph?]

LOL That level had really scary lighting. I couldn't get one of the doors on The Vile Complex. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif I got killed earlier playing Nukage Plant. I gave up cause I hadn't saved in a while. I think I'll go play it in a minute.

Ya know, some of these levles would make cool Half-Life maps.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah, it would be kewl to make some of these into Half-Life maps http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif Awhile ago I stated a Quake II version of Templecore, but Qoole started to give me a weirdo problem and the level had screwed up parts, so I dumped it.

LOL, you're supposed to save and save often http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I just passed Nukage Plant today. Here are my thoughts on that one:

This level is very cool. The theme rocks. It needs WAY more detail now though. There are places that are just way too empty. There should be more boxes and more consoles. The nukage taps would also look better with rims like spouts. If you're doing you own textures, it might be good to looking into fixing some of the animations (the horizontal nukage should flow sometimes. It's too bad you're not doing a Legacy wad because you might be able to add more frames to some of them too. I'm also a bit confused by the wood panels on the ceiling in some places.

Other than those things, this level is really really cool, like I said. It's well balanced like most of your work. I didn't get the secret by the big elevator though. The dynamic lights add to the effect big time in this one. Something to consider even though it's not getting any new "features."

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[Doom_Dude]

Yup, I totally agree with what you said. My plan for that map also includes making the the water flowing out of the spouts, in a round config. As far as boxes go, I just made 5 or 6 different ones...they came out really well and will spruce up the map and I have a few in my Barriers map now. Those default box textures in doom, really are plain and boring, compared to these. Also made some dark computer parts and monitors on the weekend. Things are really looking kewl.

Say, how did that shootable switch work for you in the Nukage Plant? Have any problems with that?

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[Aliotroph?]

It took me an hour to find that damn switch. I considered mentioning that before, but decided against it for some reason. I can think of all kinds of neat things you could do with parts of that wad, but only if you used Legacy features, which I know you're not doing.

I just passed Doomcatraz. All my comments about that one ended up in the other post. I'm working on the level after that (whatever it's called). It really really suffers from the "who needs lights?" problem. Much of the map is just gray. I like the atmosphere it creates (have tried it myself), but parts of it need more detail. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Hmmm, I seem to be able to type faster after having a couple of beers tonight. It's funny because in the other thread I was having trouble typing and in this one I'm flying.

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[Doom_Dude]

I can't remember what it's called either. LOL http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif Too early in the morning for thinking about that stuff..

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[Aliotroph?]

Oops, we just talked about it in the other topic. It's the Chaos Site.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL, now I gotta go to the other topic to see what you said. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I'll have to finish the level later. I'm not sure I'll have that much time for the rest of this week though. There's a math assignment to be addressed.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh well, that's ok Aliotroph? There's no big hurry and I'm only on map04, plus I need to go back through maps 03, 02 and 01 to final tweak stuff.

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[Aliotroph?]

Yet another day I don't have time to ride the core of them damned Viles! I have time tomorrow methinks though. As long as the box is free.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

That's kewl with me.

Meanwhile.......

Damned tutti frutti! Stoopid software mode! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Grrrrrrrr!


*Edits 5 textures to kill the damned tutti freakin' frutti*

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[Aliotroph?]

Tutti-frutti sucks ass! Why can't they just write a decent engine anyway???

I have lots of programming to do tomorrow, but I'm not done my math assigment cause it's too long. I'm going to have a shitty day tomorrow. Good thing I know a girl to do math with (a different girl).

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[Doom_Dude]

Here's what happened. I made 4 textures that were 64 wide and 48 high. On a sector 64 X 48 they look great in both software and gl. Putting said textures on sector double the hight at 96 X 64 causes that fucked tutti frutti in software. Grrrrr! So I had to make different versions for the tall sectors that were 96 X 64. I made anouther texture that was 128 wide and 16 high (a black n yellow caution / danger strip) . Bloody hell! Tutti frutti appeared along sides of texture where it tiles....damn. So I remake texture to a 128 X 64, which turns out to be a bonus because now I'm using it as a wall panel, plus the 16 high strip I left along bottom for the area I wanted to use it on in the first place.

Sure am glad I decided to have a look in software mode. I got it all fixed anyhow and it turned out better in the end, with an improvement in texture quality. So that's kewl. Still hate tutti frutti though. Why did they think random garbage colors would look ok? At the very least they could have it appear all black. Even better, not at all.

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[Aliotroph?]

I just wrote a program that worked perfectly the first time except the code had a million damn typos! I hate typing while I'm on the phone! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm10.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Talkin' to your Goth witch on the phone whilst coding. LOL.

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[Aliotroph?]

No, she's not much for talking on the phone for some reason. Can't figure out why. I was just talking to one of my non-comp-sci friends. I'm talking to him right now cause we're thinking of playing some Legacy.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

I passed Chaos site, but I had to cheat to get one of the switches (the one to lower the pillar in the grey hall. I looked for an hour. Most of the level was pretty good. I didn't get all the secrets though.

The level after that (can't remember the name) has a nasty bug. Those switches you're supposed to teleport to can be hit from the ground. It's a lot like the switch on level three. Otherwise that's a fun level.

I'm on Hell Knight's Causeway now. It seems really fun as far as I can tell.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Shit, I never noticed that Morbid Arena bug before.

Hmmm, you had to cheat to get the red key? The switch to lower the pillar is right in the room thou.. I guess that it's such a long way back to that room that it's confusing.

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

No, I had to cheat to lower the pillar in the hall just below the big silver elevator that leads up to the key doors. The switch is right in the room off the hall, but I couldn't get that door open after an hour.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh that. Didn't you notice the switch in the room next to it? Ummm, guess you didn't know what that switch was doing. Hmmm, that's easy to change....should just make switch open door permanently.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

What room next to it?

I just passed Hell Kight's Causeway. That was a fun (and neat looking level). The gameplay is changed a little with jumping.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Ugh! I think I know what your talkin' about now. A barrier blocks your path when you come back through. I have to replay it to see what's going on there..

Glad you liked the causeway http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

It's the Baron's Causeway http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Oops, sorry about the name. It was aptly named though. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

I'll have to play some more later. I haven't yet because I went to meet Isabel.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

Ashwall Plaza keeps crashing damnit! I'm getting a signal_handler() violation or something. It's a fun level though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Damn, I wonder why its crashing. It ran fine on my olde P166 back when I first made the map.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I have more info on the crash. It occurs just after the door opens revealing the Hell Knight. I have no idea why. All it says is

signal_handler(): segment violation

I'm going to try a redo of the nodes to see if that fixes it. Something about segments implies segs aka. nodes. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Try running ZenNode over it or whatever. All the maps in the original Vilecore were built using DoomCad's crappy nodebuilder so maybe that's why you're having the crash. Anyhow it's the first I heard of the game crashing.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Where can I get ZenNode?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

ZenNode Is HeRe AliOtoRph? (http://www.mrousseau.org/programs/ZenNode/)

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Thanks for the link. I rebuilt the nodes (took all of one minute which kicks the shit out of any BSP proggy I've ever seen)... and it still crashed. Then I figured it was just my savegame. I restarted Ashwall Plaza and haven't hada problem since. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

THIS IS AN AWESOME LEVEL!!!!!! The game play is really good and very well balanced. I was able to start fresh on this level and exit to the secret level with 200% health and loads of ammo. All the monsters really lagged my box though.

I don't have time to play Bloodstone before I go to bed tonight (and probably not tomorrow either). It looks good at the start though. I have to get some sleep so I can go meet my Goth Witch tomorrow before I do a crap-load more programming and calculus. Now if only she wan't a year behind me in school. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah! ZenNode is really fast and it cuts down the file size whilst killing errors. Oh and remember that if you play coop with your bud he'll need the same file or will have to run ZenNode over his version too.

I didn't think of the saved game problem and am glad that's what the problem was.

I have all the levels in Vilecore geared with enough ammo at the start to get the player through, so anybody who does happen to get stuck, can always start over without starting again at the very first map.

Have fun in Bloodstone. That's the map I put the donut trick in. Map needs more detailing thou, but don't they all, except maybe a few. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL You spelt my name "Aliotorph?" when you gave me the link to ZenNode! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

I just got stuck on The Vilecore. I got the part about going into the tunnel, but I can't get to any of the keys. Whatever door is at the back of the tunnel won't open. I've been cruising around the level looking for something, but I haven't found anything new to open.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

Then you press Alt+Tab, open it up in an editor and look for what you need.

[Doom_Dude]

Shoot through the little window. I probably should change that. Dunno why I made it so confusing. Sorry about that Aliotroph?. Just shoot and a little door will open up.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Oh, I think I see. That is somewhat confusing. Is there anything behind there I could have looked at to get that hint?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Not that I remember. I guess my mean streak was active the day I made that. Good thing I suppose that it doesn't surface very often.

How is everything Aliotroph? How is it going with the work on the ZenNodial launching device? How's your goth witch doing?

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I found that door to shoot. It was darker than the surrounding wall. That level was scary. There's a bug though. If you kill the Mancubus the level will end. Then you don't get to see the rest of it. I had to run around the Mancubus to get to the rest of the level. I finished okay though (I only wish I had the BFG from before I lost it on level 15).

The ZenNode thing is coming along okay. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to allow the addition of multiple wad files. I want something that's quick to use, but I don't want to spend a whole day coding it. I have to go find some more info on file dialogs too. I'm hoping to finish something usable by the end of the weekend so I can have you guys take a look at it. I haven't figured out how to make self-installers either. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

As for "my goth witch," she's fine. I haven't seen her since Thursday though. I had to go to a sort of meeting at school today and couldn't see her. My apparent closeness to her seems to be sending ripples through the rest of my little "community" on Earth. It's because she's two years younger than me and it looks like she popped out of nowhere (I think some people think I'm going to go do something stupid) http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

The level ends when you shoot mancubus?

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, if you kill the Mancubus by the blue door the level will end.

Huh??? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/confused.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I never noticed that. How can door open by shooting mancubus? R we talking the Vilecore map?

Uh nevermind that star reference. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

What door? The level just ends when I kill the Mancubus. It's like the bosses in Duke3D. I didn't get it at all. That meant I had to avoid the damn thing and go around it just to get to the rest of the level.

BTW: Any ideas what Isabel should get me for my birthday? She keeps bugging me about it. I don't really have any idea (she's going to be very budget limited).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Ok so I gotta actually go into the level and see whats going on but I played the crapp out of that and never had the map end because the mancubus died.

What can she get you? All the stuff I can think of right now is free. LOL. Sorry man, but today has been a weird day and I'm just no help to anybody.

Think I'll grab a coffee and try to chill out or somethin'.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL All the best things are free! All I really want is her company once in a while (translation: most of the time). Don't worry, I don't expect anyone to really be much help there, not even my best friend. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

You should have fun playing that level. I plan to play some more tonight sometime.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yes, enjoy her company, which alone is better than any kind of material gift. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

I'm really not in the mood today for messing with DooM. Maybe later sometime in the week. Taking a break for a wee bit.

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Sounds like me. I haven't written a single line of code all day. I might do some later, but maybe not. I'll probably do a bunch tomorrow for sure.

I played some Vilecore just now. Level 16 (forgot the name) is pretty good. I found one misaligned texture just above a door at the start. I also found a weird GL bug just behind the yellow door. There was a crack in the ground. I don't know how that happened because I rebuilt the nodes using ZenNode. I can't figure out how to raise the bridge outside though. I'm stuck just after getting the yellow key.

You know her main argument for getting me stuff for my birthday/Christmas is that I probably will too, so she has no choice. The great irony is that if she hadn't been babbling about it for so long it might not have occurred to me. There's nothing really that I want (as long as my computer works). Having people to kill time with is good enough for me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif


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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Right now I can't even think hard enough to remember what map 16 is.

She'll probably surprise you with something kewl or meaningfull. Chicks are good with gifts.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I have some ideas for her too. I just hope she doesn't do something dumb and go buy them all. I'll figure some of this out with her on Thursday methinks. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

Just played a good part of Aztecore. It's a neat looking level. The lava is fun. The only thing I can suggest right now is to make the lava sectors hurt a whole lot and make them pulsate.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hurt more might be good but not sure if I like the pulsate thingie.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Well, you could always play with them and choose what you like best. They should definitely hurt though. There are lava.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Too bad the lava can't kill you in 2.1 seconds or something. Then players would actually try harder to not fall into the stuff and thus complain that it's not hot enough. LOL http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Exactly.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[DOOM_GOAT]

I think the earlier levels are just a bit too damn long. Also on the Hellpitt Temple level you should make a smaller sector inside the lava so that it is really bright, but the walls are still dark. Just a thought.
Or make it MUCH deeper.

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Tod ist mein leben!
- Death Knight

[The Undertaker]

Why won't you help. Looks like you have plenty of time, being from the land of the unemployed and all.

[Doom_Dude]

I don't want any lighted sectors in the lava.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I'm confused again.

I just got into DooMed Castle. It looks pretty cool. I'm still playing it though. Haven't found any nasty bugs yet.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

You and your bugz! LOL.

Gotta get back to my story! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Passed DooMed Castle. There aren't any bugs but sometimes there are cracks that appear in th GL rendering. This is after a rebuild with ZenNode. There are no holes, only these little cracks. They like to show up by doors in this level.

The only thing this one lacks is some detail.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I never saw any cracks in any levels in gl modes before. Oh well, twas some ZenNodian thingie.

I have no clue as to when Vilecore 2.0 will get done. Seems far off now as I've slowed down. Me mind is'nt tuned it to any of this stuff lately..

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[DOOM_GOAT]

I couldn't concentrate on anything long enough to work on a megawad, especially if it's not mine.

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Tod ist mein leben!
- Death Knight

[Doom_Dude]

32 levels of insanity. How in the name of god did I make all that? Seems impossible somehow.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Got to Forsaken Mines. Looks cool. The cyberdemon at the end of the previous level was real tricky. I can't even remember the name of that map now.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

I finally got to the Rife Hive (that level we all hate). Just thinking about aspect of it made me quit DooM. It's not your best work at any rate.

Forsaken mines was pretty good. The Viles were evil! I got killed so many times because one would sneak down the elevator. This level could use some detail but that's about it. There weren't even any GL bugs (probably because of the tight spaces).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[DOOM_GOAT]

In the Rife Hive,it's that wall texture.
Somehow the STARXXX (Startan, Stargra etc.) textures make everything look crappy.

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Tod ist mein leben!
- Death Knight

http://doomgoat.freeservers.com/images/doomgoat.gif

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, that texture doesn't work on that map. It would look better if the level was darker though. Those starxxx textures work better in dark moody lighting (and with more variety in the textures). The placement of lamps in that map suggest it should be a whole lot darker with creepy lights and shadows. That might improve it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[mystic]

Dont let the authors block get you down Doom Dude, it happens to us all. The longer it takes, the longer we wait, the more popular it will be when its finished.

I have a bit of selective authors block just now. I am able to make new textures or 'mystic' style levels but cant get my brain to concentrate on finishing my mummy phuquers or my 'grail quest' castle type levels.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

This block is going to get toasted soon I hope.

The textures in The Rife Hive will die. Actually I may just take this black castle level and replace that map altogether....

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[DOOM_GOAT]

The actual layout of the level isn't too bad, its just the textures. And it's way too bright.

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Tod ist mein leben!
- Death Knight

http://doomgoat.freeservers.com/images/doomgoat.gif

[Aliotroph?]

That's sort of what I saide.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah and I agree. One of these days I'll get to it....

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Doom Hendge is SCARY. All those guys lagged my comp big-time in Legacy. More texture variety here please.

Thise level is really fun though. I can't wait to play in co-op with Allan (my DooM playing friend).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I like that map too. Twas a blast to make. I should replay it soon and have a look. So did it lagg when the wall came down?

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, that's mostly where it lagged. It was really bad after I'd quickload (cause I don't like getting shot).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. You don't like getting shot! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif Hahahaha.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Ever since I played through Half-Life, I've had a fairly conservative style in single player. I leave most Vilecore levels with 200% health or close to it. I'm not like that in co-op though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Is there too much health in Vilecore or something or do you keep loading you saved game because your health dropped a tad?

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

F9 = Quickload

Sometimes I go way overboard with that.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I started to do that with Quake I. I would play a hard section 20 times just to get it perfect. It kinda lost it's charm after awhile though.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

Now I know why I take so long to finish these effing megawads. I never save. I just keep going until Im dead or have to stop for refreshment/real life.
Thats why I prefer the smaller megawads with about 10 levels in them.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[The Undertaker]

Thats why I play my Megawads in Co-op. You'd be surprised how fast you can beat the game with buddies. Well okay, maybe they don't help as much you might think but time sure as hell flies when your not alone. Good thing DooM doesnt't have an internal clock.

[Aliotroph?]

I find it harder to pass Vilecore in co-op. My friend takes my precious ammo and I can't quicksave. It's still loads of fun though. He was complaining last night because I wasn't home and we couldn't play some Vilecore.

BTW: He purposely calls it "Vilcore" just to be dumb. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

God waht teh hell is a Vil? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

I dont think Im capable of playing co-op, I would be too tempted to make a deathmatch of it.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Aliotroph?]

When we play it never lets me kill him. I can only kill his armour.

Hey DooM_Dude, how'd you manage to transpose the letters in two words in a row? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[mystic]

Too many beers or is that someone special messing with your mind?

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Aliotroph?]

LOL Probably both! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

My mind is all full of wild visions and it's got nothin' to do with wine or beer or ummmmmm, what is the other thing, or Vilecore or beer!

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

I envy you, I miss being screwed up like that. Who needs drugs when there are pretty girls?

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

Don't envy me my friend for it's very complicated and not straight forward at all.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Don't worry DooM_Dude. I'm sure you'll figure it all out. My life in the last year or so has been way more complex than ever before and lots of it sucks (mostly with my family). Lots of fun stuff happened with girls though. I get distracted by them all the time. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hey thanx Aliotroph? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif It seems so all fucked up and convuluted sometimes and impossible. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif Somehow it might all straighten out somehow.. sometime. LOL. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, it's been like that for me this year. It's even been like that with other stuff like the rest of my family. It'll all work out for us both though methinks.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Thats good for you then! LOL now you're saying methinks. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I always say that you fool.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Perhaps you do. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Are you drunk? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

No I never drink himself into a drunken state. ..and before you say it, I know you're jokin' http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

You're right about getting drunk. It's not worth it 99.99999% of the time. There are a couple times when it's slightly more worth it. It can help avoid things if done carefully. This said, I haven't been drunk in months and that's fine with me. It's easier to come here when I'm sober.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I said himself. I meant myself. I might drink enough to get a buzz but no thanx to the drunkeness and the headaches and pukin' and not remembering what you did kind of crapp.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Funny, whenever I've been drunk I've remembered the whole damn thing. It's really weird. $10 bucks says my mom's boyfriend is going to be wasted tonight! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I've never puked or gotten pissed to the point of forgetfullness like some and don't plan on trying it either. I have gotten a headache or two but that was ages ago. Maybe that was that shitty wonder wine. Can't remember. LOL.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, don't bother trying it. It's not worth it. It's been quite a long time since I've been that drunk. The headaches can be avoided through tons of water consumption though. Then you start thinking you might want a catheter...

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well I don't need that kind of garbage and I always knew it. and screw the water and just gimme 1 beer. Thats all I ever want anyhow. Sometimes 2 and that's good enough. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm16.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, I'm usually like that now too.

Rum in Egg Nog is gooooood! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

It's a good way to be. Let the idiots get plastered...cept its those bums that drive afterwards, unfortunately.

I like a shot of Captain Morgan and coke. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Drunken idiots are easy to screw over too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

I wouldn't mind a glass of wine right about now. I haven't tried that with DooM yet.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I'm off to email my friend. She has just sent me several and I need to check em all out. I need a glass of wine I think. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Nobody ever e-mails me! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm45.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

It's pretty kewl once you start trading like 5 at a time and then you send 5 and they just build up. LOL. I had 101 from 4 days or so and had to clean em all out. LOL. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Don't think I've ever done that. I just got a network hub and I'm trying to figure out how to get my comps to talk to each other (I don't have a book for this cause it's used). I got them both on the net, but they won't have anything to do with each other.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I'm clueless around that networking stuff.

I got some Great White cranking now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I should finish this some time. I just haven't felt like gaming... or programming, or designing, or editing, or reading...

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[mystic]

Im knackered, no sleep in two days, dozing off at the keyboard, wow, no spelling mistakes yet and Im having to force my eyes to stay open. I always knew I could touch type.

I dont believe drunks who claim they cant remember what an asshole they were the night before, more like they dont want to remember. Im with Doom Dude on the one or two beers idea. I tell everyone I dont drink but what I mean is I dont drink as a hobby. I like a cold beer late at night while surfin or watching a movie. Dark Rum with Coke is nice too.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Aliotroph?]

If I ever come to Scotland, I'm coming to visit you Mystic! I like your attitude!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

There you go again flirting with Mystic.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Muahahahahhaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

Soon I will rule the world!!!!

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm41.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Oh no you won't! I still have a trick or two in my tickle trunk. LOL
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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

So I've noticed. Too bad I never get to be alone with any.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well just save all that stuff up and it'll come in handy later on. Ya can't have too much stuff in your tickle trunk. LOL.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, Mr. Dressup and his Tickle Trunk! That show was cool.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah It was kewl! LOL. I have my own tickle trunk now! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

Is tickle trunk a euphemism for penis?

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Aliotroph?]

Mr. Dressup was a Canadian show for little kids. It featured this old guy who always interacted with a bunch of characters (mostly young and often animals). They were all puppets. He had this Tickle Trunk from which he brought forth all sorts of costumes and goodies for making crafts. He was really good at making stuff from paper and those pipe-cleaner thinghys.

The closest thing I ever had to that was my laptop bag with all sorts of neat and useful things in it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Right On Aliotroph? Mystic My tickle trunk is my evil, filthy mind. I'm vile to the core you know. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL "Vile to the Core!" It sounds like a NesTea commercial!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh I am Vile To The Core..have no doubt but its a good kind of Vile. LOL@NesTea commercial. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Most of my friends still get confused when I say "Time to go play some Vilecore!" http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL! You must bring them all to the Vile side!

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[The Undertaker]

Yes, your the only guys populated this thread.

[Doom_Dude]

So what are you doing here then? LMAO.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Maybe Isabel would like Vilecore. She's not exactly the pure innocent type.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Maybe she would. She does play lazer tag, right? So if she does well then maybe she would like DooM, once she tried it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL I'm legally blind and I can beat her at Laser Tag. She ought to have good reflexes though because she's got the metabolism of a Humming Bird and she's always hyper and cheerful.

Yay! Tomorrow's Tuesday, and that mean...

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hyper and cheerfull is good! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

What happens tomorrow?

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Tuesday is our traditional "Let's go to the mall for no reason" day. I think there's only been a total of 5 Tuesdays this year when I haven't seen her.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Well I can think of some very good reasons to go to a mall but they're kinda raunchy. LOL.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I only go to the mall cause Isabel goes there. It's easy for us both to get to in a short span of time.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well when theres no other place to hang out go to the mall. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Man, I can't wait till Friday.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Your waiting is over........

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Ah, today was cool - or should I say "warm and soft?" Hehehe... She's so cool! Then I went bowling with a bunch of friends and had a few drinks (which made my bowling worse).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[mystic]

I had a shitty day.

I almost got killed when I tripped and fell while trying to catch a bus in the crowded city centre, it was raining so my trousers were covered in water and muck from the road and I tore some skin off the palm of my hand.

I then caught the wrong bus and after getting off got soaked while waiting at a bus stop as a truck went speeding through a nearby puddle and splashed the clarty stuff all over me, just as a really nice girl was coming along too.

I was raging mad and would have killed that bastard driver if I caught him.

Im still bloody angry and my hand still stings. God help any drivers I hear bragging about splashing pedestrians in the next few days.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Aliotroph?]

Man, that DOES suck!

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[mystic]

I wish that were true, Ive not been sucked for quite some time now, that would be nice.

Ahem, what were we talking about?

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

Geez Mystic that really blows. Hope your days have improved.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Silly dirty Mystic. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Mystic don't think about it or you'll go insane......you don't want to end up all weird like me....

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

I cant stay angry about anything for long. I believe in fate, there was probably a reason all that stuff happened.
I would probably have tried to chat up that pretty girl at the bus stop, we would have gone out to a movie together, I would have fallen in love with her and she would have dumped me and broke my heart.
So falling in the road and getting all clarty saved me from a broken heart.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

Stuff happens for a reason I guess. I'm not 100% sure about that though. Life seems screwed up enough without the Ill hand Of fate screwing it up worse.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Isabel seems to think it was fate that we met. All of the sudden after not talking to each other for 3 years we just started doing things together and it went from there. Personally I just think she's had a major thing for me for far longer than she's admitted.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

She sounds real cool. Maybe she did but aso maybe she's right. There could be such a thing as fate or destiny but who knows for sure? Sometimes several things fall into place and seem to be working in a way that is out of ones control and you know if just one of those things didn't happen then the end result would be very different. Your lucky to know someone as nice and as cool as Isabel.

I dunno about fate but I was messing around the net one day when I found this message board in the middle of nowhere. I met this sweet lass on Dec 1st, who lives 900 miles away. We've become really good friends. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

I was found by a really sweet young Australian woman on ICQ. I had random chat enabled (by accident) and she just found me out of the blue. We chatted for about 3 hours that first time. She visited my web site and didnt mind anything except that Shawshank redemtion wasnt on my favourite movies list (hell, I cant remember all my favourites at once). We are still friends months later but I have to admit I dont really trust people on the internet, even if she did send me a nice T-shirt for my birthday. Also, she lives on the other side of the planet in a place I would never visit because its too effing warm there so the chances of us meeting in real life are very slim.

Apart from that, most of the girls I meet in real life have a sort of fate style coincidence to them.
I mentioned in another thread that I just got a crappy (better than nothing) job. When I went for the interview on Tuesday I met a lovely girl who has just moved to Scotland from New Zealand, we got on really well.
She was up for the same vacancy and was given an immediate start. I was told they would be in touch with me sometime which usually translates as 'piss off, we dont like you'. So I thought I would probably never see her again.
This afternoon I got a phone call telling me they want me to start on Monday so Im going to be working alongside her.

I am slightly happy.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

You see fate works in weird ways or is it just chance? I do hope that job works out for you Mystic. The girl sounds promising too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

She trusts me and I her. We just clicked so well from day one and the trust was just there from the start. Normally id not trust just anybody ...especially over the internet, which is full of jerks and fake people. She's cool and trusting and very sweet and after a month and a half of constant chatting, joking around, and revelations you do get to know someone very well...even if they're an online bud you've never met eye to eye. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Heh, the only girl I ever met online was Jugs! I've obviously met a whole bunch of guyes though.

It's funny, because Isabel stopped e-mailing me. She can't be bothered anymore. Now I only get to talk to her in person (which usually works pretty well).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well you've only met one babe online and I've met like 2 and more guys then I want to know. LOL. Thats because I hang around all these gaming forums full of dudes.

Mmmmmmmmm eye to eye sounds good. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Damnit. With my DSL modem buggered I can't even hang out here. I'm on my mom's laptop now using my dad's emergency AOL connection. He only buys 3 hours a month so I'm gonna get some shit.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

3 hours a month. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif That's not very long at all. lol. You use up the Month's supply yet?

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[mystic]

Damn you guys, I was trying to pretend Im a woman but forgot when I came here. All that honesty stuff here makes me forget to lie. Shit, back to being boring 'old' mystic again. I was just beginning to enjoy being a young slapper.

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Creator of 'The Mummy Phuquers' and 'Mystic' series of Doom wads.
also creator of ANDYDM1.WAD (my favourite)

MYSTICMEG IS CUMMING SOON
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif
http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

Hey now unless you get a sex change I don't want to talk to you as Mystica or Mysteria or whatever your feminine side is called. LOL.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, Mystic would make an ugly woman. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

I just come in here in the labs at school now.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hey now quit putting Mystassia down. He could be cute in a dress.....then again maybe not.

Well when are you going to get this free computer from our stoopid government? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

It's not "our" government. It's "my" government, as in Ralph Klein and friends (aka. The Axe Man). I have no idea what's up with them. Stupid bastards.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

yeah.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I miss Isabel - and being able to play Legacy damnit. Stupid reformat at the same time my modem dies!!!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I need some beer cause I'm in need of a beer. Sorry you miss Isabel but dude that's nothing. Be glad you actually get to REALLY see her in REAL LIFe even if it's not everyday.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Sorry, I was just really bored when I wrote that. I still can't play Legacy though; although I do have beer. I played some Wolf3D last night and the sound support is gimped on my comp. Half the sounds were Soundblaster and half were PC speaker. There was no music either. I think I need to change my drivers.

Oh yeah, I played som Raptor too. I have a ROTT CD full of Apogee shareware. They have the best games! ROTT won't install under WinME though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I know how boring things can be and don't be sorry. lol. Now I forgot what else I was gunna say in here.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I feel like playing Wolf3D. Too bad I forgot to bring the CD to school with me.

Play my wads damnit! I played yours (only have four levels to go, but damn reformat fucked me up). They were cool!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well I played part of one wad and I even mentioned in here someplace.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[DOOM_GOAT]

Why do you need Wolf3D on a CD? It fits on one floppy.

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Tod ist mein leben!
- Death Knight

http://doomgoat.freeservers.com/images/doomgoat.gif

[Aliotroph?]

I have it on my ROTT CD. Well actually it's only the shareware version, but I'm to lazy to find it and download it. Hey, maybe I should bring ROTT here.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I never played much of ROTT....got bored with it and the grainyness made me sick of it all after a short period. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

ROTT basically used a glorified Wolf3D engine. The basic structure was the same. It was to Wolf3D what Duke3D was to DooM (graphics-wise). It wasn't that fun in the end. I never played that whole game through and it was kind of ugly like Quake. It did have some advantages over DooM though: 3D collisions, walking on sprites, pseudo dynamic lights, static sprites with more frames, etc. It had fun stuff like moving walls and jump pads too. The static heights and orthagonal walls really hurt it though.

The CD also has shareware of Duke II, Raptor, Wacky Wheels, and Blake Stone. It's a pretty good CD. It even has goodies like MIDIs, pics, and a map randomizer. Pretty good for something I bought in a used game store.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

It's kewl you can appreciate those old dos games like that....where they just bore me completely. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm34.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Big_al]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">ROTT basically used a glorified Wolf3D engine</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought it used the Build (Duke3d) engine?

[Aliotroph?]

ROTT came out in early 1994 (two years before Duke3D). The engine had orthagonal walls and could only have one static height for the ceiling throughout a level. It did have some primative dynamics lights.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Mystic & me deathmatched on ROTT once.
All the other panty wastes at that LAN party had wimped out and fell asleep by that point.

[Aliotroph?]

That's really really sad. LAN parties are fun. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I wish I was having a Lan party with babes n whiskey or something. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

Sometimes I have LAN parties with my "Asian" friends as they call themselves. We like playing Legacy and I often get my ass kicked (by some guy who never plays DooM).

I'm trying to set up a LAN in my house right now. It works with my Win98SE PC and my dad's Win98 laptop but he got a new box with WinXP and I can't get it to work. It just won't connect to anything. Stupid bastards!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

That's why LAN parties go on so long, you spend the first half trying to get all the machines talking to each other.

[Aliotroph?]

It still doesn't work.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Have you assigned IP addresses to all the machines?
Can you ping on machines IP address from the others?
Are the work groups the same?

[Aliotroph?]

There were set up to find their own IPs. This has always worked with my other computers. I don't know a thing about these workgroups though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Easier to manually choose the IP addresses.
Say 1.1.1.&lt;something&gt; for the IP and 255.255.255.0 for the masks.
Replace the &lt;something&gt; with a different number for each machine 1,2,3,etc.

[Planky]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">There were set up to find their own IPs</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would only work if there was a DHCP server on the network. Although win98se seems to be able to set itself an ip if there is no DHCP server around, cant work out how it does it thou

[Planky]

hey alio, u might want 2 check out World of Windows (http://www.wown.com).

Very handy site if u ask me

[Aliotroph?]

I hate networking. I'm going to try what you mentioned later though. I just need to copy files from my old computer to my new one so the old one can become a lab computer for my father. Then I get one of his lab computers (which is actually faster) to use as another PC on the network.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Use a floppy disk http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif
I remember the days for spanning pkzip files across 20+ disks only to find a CRC error on disk 19, happy days.

[Aliotroph?]

I'm not going to copy a gigabyte of stuff with a floppy disk. I might just have to call Dell's tech support. I already did once cause I installed a program that "wasn't compatible" with XP and the computer wouldn't reboot properly. They moved the damn Safe Mode key!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Why would they move the safe mode key? Is that some kinda weird joke or programming prank? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

They're just bastards. My foolish brother somehow got the net and crap up and running on this box. He even networked it and did an HD swap so I have my old stuff.

Problem is my dad's laptop (soon to be mine) just fried for no reason. It just shut down and it won't start at all. The little CD player on the front still works but the computer won't start. The power-bar it was plugged into had a surge protector so I don't get what went wrong. I had just plugged in a network cable to connect it to this computer. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm23.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/confused.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Sorry to hear the laptop got fried. That's why I'm glad I have an UPS. Man I want one of those laptop jobbies too.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Big_al]

Laptop's are a nice idea but in use the don't live up to it.
Keyboards are too small, built in pointing devices suck, battery life is laughable, updating device drivers are a nightmare, upgrading hardware forget it.

[Aliotroph?]

Hey, for some reason the laptop started working again. My brother just took the battery out and put it back in and it worked again. It doesn't make any sense though cause we were trying to run it with an adapter the whole time.

I like my laptops even if they aren't as mutable or powerful. They're damned convenient, even the 3-year-old ones. I love those small keyboards. They're great for games cause you can reach 50 different keys without even moving your wrists.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

No use if you have large hands like me. Press fours keys with one finger, doh!
Just like that Simpson episode,
http://www.angelfire.com/ns/Chris31/images/fatfingr.wav

[Aliotroph?]

Heh, good thing I don't have big fingers I guess.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Yeah, Simpsons have the answer to every problem in life.

[Doom_Dude]

I want one so I can type of stuff away from the main PC jobby. But you guys don't need to know about that. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

[Aliotroph?]

It's great the my laptop started working again. Yay!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Kewl Aliotroph?! Glad ya got it going again. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, I don't even get why it stopped in the first place. My dad will be happy cause he has a pile of stuff on there he needs. Now i can take it with me when I go to my best friend's house tonight and I can work on programming in the morning when he goes to his Youth orchestra. No I'm not going to that cause it's too early in the morning and it goes all morning. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Kewl! My new Dell keyboard is really really easy to type on and now I can type really fast. It's even a really quiet keyboard to go with the really quiet computer. Hehe, I can type faster than I can think of what to write. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

That keyboard sounds really kewl. Mine is older than dirt itself but it keeps on ticking....why it must be about 6 years old or sumthin'.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Big_al]

I've got a laptop for the work I'm doing at the moment.
Its pants, took 'ucking ages to setup and get the build enviroment onto it.

[Aliotroph?]

I've been working on a VB project on my dad's laptop and the thing keeps crashing for no reason. I was listening to MIDI files but every time I jolt the thing the soundcard goes "poof!" and I have to reboot to get sound again. For an IBM computer it's been performing pretty badly the last couple of weeks.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds like the thing is on it's last legs...

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, I think so but it's the only one I got.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well don't bump it when your doing stuff. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

Shit! CodeWarrior won't work on my new Dell box so I have to code on the laptop. That's really dumb cause I have no desk space for the thing in this room. That's why I only used it for music.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh thats a drag Aliotroh? Dang Dell.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

I've managed to adapt now. It still kind of sucks though. On the other hand, it's not too bad using the laptop. That way I know the stuff is already on it when I want to take it to school. I'm just tired of using two computers cause I haven't figured out how to connect that thing to my network and all of my course material is on the internet.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds screwy but you adapt like a borg. LOL.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

"I am Ludicrous of Grob. You will be 'aSimulated.' Resistance is utile!" - Hehe, parodies are funny http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Hmmmmmm Seven Of Nine says Hi. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

http://www.mikeycomics.com/imgdump/7of9.jpg

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

For some reason I often want to break her neck. She's the most obnoxious character on Voyager. It was funny with Q's son removed her clothes and then when he had no powers he asked her if he could see her naked again. I wish Star Trek would cut the obvious sex crap they keep doing now. It's just like every other dumb show. Enterprise is even worse. Now all the characters even go after the ones who are sex symbols. It's really corny.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I still like the original Star Trek the best, but the best Captain has to be Picard.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, Kirk is a prick. So is Shatner (Shitner). The original Star Trek is funny; especially the bad guys.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Well I always liked Kirk for some reason, especially with the rivalry stuff in the Wrath Of Khan. I thought that was interesting.

LOL! Look at this spock mug! Thats funny methinks.

http://www.neweyestudio.com/eb283.jpg

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'

[Aliotroph?]

LOL@Spock Mug - Yeah that's funny! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

The Wrath of Khan was cool.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Hard choice between Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country for the best Original Star Trek Movie.

[Aliotroph?]

I agree with you. Those were both great fun with loads of action. They even both had cool scores.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I have to agree too with that comment. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

'and her eyes do shine like the most shimmering of liquid stars, just like I imagined...'