Vilecore Bugs/Suggestions Topic

[Doom_Dude]

Hi Deathgiver! Sorry I only noticed your post just now. I'm taking Vilecore and reworking each map with new architecture / some sprite changes / tons of new textures and so Vilecore will become Vilecore 2.0

So what did you mean 'will Vilecore2.0 be a 2 1/2D Megawad?


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[The Grimator]

Sir, you are a genius.... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

[Aliotroph?]

Yep, Doom_Dude's wads rule!

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[Aliotroph?]

Hey Doom_Dude just thought I'd let you know that after checking Vilecore in DeePsea it found a pile of errors to do with excess sidedefs, excess sector tags, and unclosed sectors. Better check these for the next version. They can cause nasties with some engines. If DoomCAD won't do all that nicely then you can send me the wad before you release it and I'll do it with DeePsea.

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[Doom_Dude]

There is? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, try getting the shareware DeePsea and opening the first map then running checks on it. There are errors.

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[Doom_Dude]

What about after running ZenNode on it???? Hmmm? Those original maps were made using DoomCads crappy nodebuilder so I'm not surprised. Try checking my Lavapitt Temple was please. I don't want to get DeepSea shareware again because It wasn't anything I liked...

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[Aliotroph?]

The problem has nothing to do with the nodes. I ran ZenNode on my copy of Vilecore before the first time I played it. The problems are most likely caused by DoomCAD's way of dealing with wad structures when you edit the map. It probably doesn't have nearly as good error checking and correction as DeePsea. The unclosed sector errors might actually affect the way the nodes get built in ZenNode. The other errors shouldn't usually cause a problem except some wasted space in the file.

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[Aliotroph?]

For the record Templecore and Chasmcore both complain about extra sidedefs (shouldn't cause an issue in the game). DeePsea doesn't like all your custom texture names either. How did you even get all those to work? Did you use Wintex or XWE?

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[Doom_Dude]

XWE is what I used. What's wrong with the names? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

It doesn't recognize them properly. It whined about not being able to find the floor and ceiling textures with funny new names. They work in the game so I wouldn't be bothered about them.

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[Doom_Dude]

Well right now If I had to change all the names of my textures, id scrap the whole project. That sounds like too much hassle to me right now.

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[Aliotroph?]

Don't worry about it as long as they work in the game.

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[Doom_Dude]

Ok I won't worry about it. I have enough stuff on my mind now that editing is again at a stand still anyhow.

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[Big_al]

I'm supprised that you didn't get problems in the game with unclosed sectors.

[Doom_Dude]

Where are these things at if I can't see them in the editor? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Well, I'm not quite sure. I didn't see any funny-looking ones so I imagine they were sectors with an extra sidedef stuck on somewhere for something you thought was over-written or deleted. Fixing the extra sidedefs will probably solve the problem.

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[Doom_Dude]

Oh well. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Well, I could have a look at the specifics but I'm too lazy right now.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL your always in here. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, although this computer is so fast I can run 10 tasks and not worry about it.

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[Doom_Dude]

Your arms must get tired doing all that stuff at once. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I'm mostly used to it. The other day my eye got so buggered I could barely read though.

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[Doom_Dude]

That sucks Aliotroph? Hope your eye is ok. I know one of my eyes gets really sore sometimes when I'm on here a lot.

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah it's fine. All the guys who work with blind people are surprised I don't use magnification or screen-reading software here. I could, but having my computer read Big_Al's posts in Stephen Hawking's voice would make me piss myself.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL. What if it was some cutes voice? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

That would be nice but most computer cute voices sound like they're constipated or have the hiccups.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL! Or they sound like Yoda with a cold. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

LOL Exactly!

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I want one of those jobbies reading the forums. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

You can get free ones on the net.

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[Doom_Dude]

I think I'll stay clear of that and just download a few Mp3 thinghys. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Rellik wanted one to make sounds for DooM levels. Ebola used one in Nimrod.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I heard that voice jobby in Nimrod.

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[Aliotroph?]

They used that in Half-Life too. May be where Ebola got the idea.

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[Doom_Dude]

It didn't sound that contrived in Half~Life.

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[Aliotroph?]

In what sense. In Half-Life you just never interacted with it. They also used a different synth for the voice.

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[Doom_Dude]

Well I never noticed it sounding like some synth~voice in Half~Life.

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[Aliotroph?]

Well what else would it have been? It was a very obvious synth voice. All the PA stuff was synth.

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[Doom_Dude]

What else would it have been? Why couldn't it be a real human voice that was resampled by the sound guy?

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[Aliotroph?]

Cause it wasn't. You could tell. They wanted it to be a machine voice. That way all parties could control it and they wouldn't need more voices. It became a familiar sound.

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[Doom_Dude]

Ok but it didn't sound weird to me.

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[Aliotroph?]

I wasn't meant to be weird, just a computer voice. They're not all horrible. All the speech from that thing was tweaked when they did the output though. They were very careful what they typed and they sort of formatted the output. I've done it before.

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[Doom_Dude]

If you say so! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Hmmmm, my typo makes it sound like I wanted to be a computer voice. Typical of me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

You probably want to be the voice of the computer on the next Star Trek. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

LOL Not really.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I wouldn't mind being somewhere on Star Trek though.

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[Doom_Dude]

The Klingon home planet would be kewl. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Too violent.

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[Doom_Dude]

Vulcan home world?

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[Aliotroph?]

Too hot and logical.

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[Doom_Dude]

The Ferengi planet? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Too materialistic.

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[Doom_Dude]

Hahahahahahahaahaa http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

Teh Romulan planet?

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[Aliotroph?]

Too imperialistic.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL! Hmmmmmmmmmm this is getting hard.

The Cardassian planet?

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[Aliotroph?]

Too full of intrigue.

All the Star Trek worlds represent facets of our culture. You probably wouldn't want to live on most of them.

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[Big_al]

I would like to live on that holiday planet 24/7 http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

[Doom_Dude]

LOL@Holiday Planet!

What about Mars?

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[Aliotroph?]

Yes, Risa might work. Wonder if you would get bored though. I'd rather have my own hotrod spaceship so I could fly all over the place with Cute and explore stuff.

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"Computer, install a recursive subroutine." - Harry Kim, Star Trek Voyager

[Big_al]

I'd rather explore a cute

[Doom_Dude]

I didn't know what I was doing when I first started all using the word cute in here. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm16.gif

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[Big_al]

Aye, what have you unleashed on the world you fool! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm24.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

I think I cursed myself methinks. Now I'm cursed to roam the earth eteranlly cuteless! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/icons/icon9.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Nah, you're both too likable for that to happen. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Hey thanx. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif But one must always be prepared for the worst. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Big_al]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Nah, you're both too likable for that to happen</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Doesn't seem to have worked so far.

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[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Doesn't seem to have worked so far.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Welcome to cutelessville, Population 2. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Big_al]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Welcome to cutelessville, Population 2</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
What about the bears?

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[Doom_Dude]

Remember I couldn't find any bears.......

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[Aliotroph?]

I know lots of people without cutes. Rellik doesn't have one. Neither do most of my friends IRL.

Life is pretty damn long these days so you'll both probably find another cute. All the cutelessness in between probably makes you wiser too. I think it did to me. I could have had Cute 4 years ago but I didn't and I got smarter for it.

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"Computer, install a recursive subroutine." - Harry Kim, Star Trek Voyager

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">I know lots of people without cutes. Rellik doesn't have one. Neither do most of my friends IRL.

Life is pretty damn long these days so you'll both probably find another cute. All the cutelessness in between probably makes you wiser too. I think it did to me. I could have had Cute 4 years ago but I didn't and I got smarter for it.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I may or may not, who knows? Anyhow the cutes start thinning out after awhile as you get older because they get married or run off to some strange land or they have some weird Ex you don't want to get tangled with. LOL. Anyhow I'm not too worried about it all. It does suck to be cuteless but there's far worse things to be burdened with and I'm glad not to have any of that junk hanging over my head......

Ok time for more Vilecore editing. I can't stop adding new rooms and stuff to this map07 jobby. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

People will believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is....
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Map07 is already huge though. Oh well, big maps are fun. That was a fun map actually.

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"Computer, install a recursive subroutine." - Harry Kim, Star Trek Voyager

[Doom_Dude]

It's even better now methinks and some of the rooms are xtras that the player doesn't have to go into to finish the map. I'm wondering if I should put in a large cargo area beyond this big door I made. I kinda put in this big 'fake' door that leads nowheres (right now it leads noplace) because it made sense at the time. Hmmmmmmm what to do I wonder?

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad: Home of Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)

People will believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is....
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I don't know since I can't see it.

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"Computer, install a recursive subroutine." - Harry Kim, Star Trek Voyager

[Doom_Dude]

Hey Aliotroph? did you ever finish playing Vilecore. I can't seem to remember if you did or not? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

I got to the end but I never actually passed the last level. I have a bad habit of doing that in games.

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

Ok that's good enough with me. I tend to do the same for some reason. Heh.

I'm thinking of changing the name of map04: Barriers to Lost Station or something..... hopefully something better. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif Got lots of work done on it and made some new textures for it. I also finished map03. I'm all set to update my site but the hosted sites seem to be missing around here. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Deathgiver]

Doom_Dude, How about renaming Map 4 "Breach".

As in breaching the defenses.

Just a thought.

"I'm all set to update my site but the hosted sites seem to be missing around here."

That must be why You & X-Doom have a case of the "Red X's "

[Doom_Dude]

Breach is ok but not quite what I want. This is a base that's way out in the middle of noplace in some remote area. I don't want to give too much away but it's looking really cool methinks.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[jenblaze122]

*edit* never mind

i am doing this way too much :/

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some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Hmmmmmmmm you did it again and edited out what you said.

Remote Base isn't quite what I want either. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

Foresaken Outpost! Note: that one was used in Hexen. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Foresaken Outpost! Note: that one was used in Hexen.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it was Forsaken Outpost. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif I like the name lots but I decided to keep the olde title. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

Damn spelling of all those "for" words. Grrr.

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

Just anouther wej. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

Hehehe, you just made a wej too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Hey, wej spelt backwards is "jew". Hehe, yet another in-joke about the word Jew I can share with my friend from a Jewish family. Our other one is "Jew box". His brother asked his mom one day if he could have a juice box and I thought he said Jew box. Then we started calling hospitals Jew boxes because there are a lot of Jewish doctors around here it seems. We mean no harm on the Jews (especially since he technically is one) but it's kinda funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

Wejjies! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

Perhaps that will be Israel's new weapon against the terrorists. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

I see all kinds of terrorists walking around funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, they'll end up exploding before they reach their targets. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Deathgiver]

WEJJIE ALERT!!! *WHOOP WHOOP* &lt; (alarm sounds)
http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm28.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Terrorist: 'Oh my god I have the Mother of all wejjies!'

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

*as he dances around trying to fix it... BOOM!!!*

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Id like to see that. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Alotroph? go look at the movie I made in the Nickster topic in rants. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

I saw that movie. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

LOL I said Alotroph? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Theres more movies now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[jenblaze122]

hehehe theres a really funny one someone made i forgot who. they typed what they thought the people were saying http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go ;)

[Doom_Dude]

haahaa that was Rellik! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Melfice Darkmage]

I need to quit ignoring threads and forums, it's a bad habit, because I end up reading through 15 pages http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

[Aliotroph?]

Hehehe, I've done that in the past.

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

I'm just glad this isn't 15 pages of Vilecore bugs, like it seems at first glance. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

LOL There aren't too many bugs in Vilecore. There are lots of things you could debate in the look but the gameplay is really good. I like playing it a lot better than Plutonia or Evilution and vast parts of DooM II. It comes close to rivalling Knew Deep in the Dead, which is the best commercial DooM stuff ever (for PC since I haven't played the console games).

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Doom_Dude]

Thanks Aliotroph? Hehe I now see the original wad as a nice base for building something way better. 373 custom textures and flats should help the look of the renevated areas. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

Jeez, that's more textures than DooM and DooM II combined! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm24.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[Ninja_of_DooM]

Pretty amazing huh?

I'm so goddamn BORED! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/ruinkai/dazeda.gif

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Member of the NewDooM megawad team. Map 14: Jail Break.

My own little bunch of WADs. Containing 3 individual maps. Download it here (http://sparky.suhost.com/pub/hosted/ninja/ninja_of_doom_wads.zip)

Thanks to Sparky for the hosting.
If you would wish to host this then contact me at by E-mail. mailto:AndrewAFE@aol.comAndrewAFE@aol.com</A>

Hint to all Katana owners: Never sit on yours, It'll give you a very sore ass indeed.

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Jeez, that's more textures than DooM and DooM II combined!</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm using some of those too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/ndcp)
http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----

[Aliotroph?]

You're crazy. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm29.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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"Once in a while a programmer really writes something he's proud of, a slick, elegant, blazingly fast routine that stands as a benchmark against which other code will be judged by. However, this is not the case with TED's fill routine. This slow, stupid algorithm will casually fill one plane of data in a painfully creeping manner. Press ESC when it gets confused." - John Romero on TED (Tile EDitor)

Aliotroph?.postCount++;

[SavageMessiah]

That's a lotta textures! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm5.gif

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Give me ambiguity or give me something else. NOW.

[Deathgiver]

I was playing Vilecore and I (finally) made it to map 30: Battle Hex, & I have a prob, in one part there is a pool of lava that opens up an arena type of room with some "slime pools" in the next room. Well I'm stuck unless I noclip into one of the walls to hit the switch to raise the walkway. How do I get out of that room without cheating?

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">You're crazy.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank ye! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">That's a lotta textures!</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmmmm maybe I have a texture fetish?

/me dance with the Vilecore textures

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">I was playing Vilecore and I (finally) made it to map 30: Battle Hex, & I have a prob, in one part there is a pool of lava that opens up an arena type of room with some "slime pools" in the next room. Well I'm stuck unless I noclip into one of the walls to hit the switch to raise the walkway. How do I get out of that room without cheating?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

You need to find the loincloth of levitation! No wait, wrong project! You have to shoot the switches through the windows to raise the walkway around the lava if my memory is right. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif


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http://megawad.newdoom.com//sig/vilesig1.GIF (http://megawad.newdoom.com/ndcp)
http://megawad.newdoom.com/Ndcp/themegawad.JPG (http://megawad.newdoom.com/)
----Linedef Technician and Sector Maker Upper----