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Deathgiver
November 7th, 2002, 11:09 PM
DD, I finally made it to Ashwall plaza, and i,m stuck. Not all the monsters are coming out. I got 88 of the buggers.

I'm using the latest latest Doomsday unified engine release 1.7.5.

Am I missing something, or should I take it to the Doomsday HQ section instead
Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 08:55 AM
Well, I can't really remember. There might be a switch somewhere.

Ashwall plaza is a nice map with a neat name though. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 09:26 AM
I'm not sure at the moment. I doubt it's a JDoom prob. Did you get the wave of Hellknights? There is a timed door in that map that opens a door 5 minutes after starting the map. I don't know if a saved game messes that up or not. Anyhow, directly opposite the fronts of the stairs is a door. After 5 minutes the door opens long enough for the 8 Hellknights to come out. There is also a switch that ones that door but it won't open that way until after the Hellknights are released. I think that's where your problem is.

I'm gonna play it and see where the 88 mark is. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif I assume UV mode?

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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 09:43 AM
It's funny cause I found the secret exit to that map and I still haven't found the normal exit.

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 09:43 AM
Okay I played through on UV mode to the 89 kills mark. After the first wave you have to hit this switch in the screen and it'll open the closed door in the screen. This is the area I was talking about in the last post.

http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/temp/map15.JPG

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 09:44 AM
Aliotroph? there are no secret maps in Vilecore. So there's only one exit in every map. I love secret areas and hate the idea of secret maps.

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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 09:54 AM
Oh, okay. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 09:58 AM
Okee dokee. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif



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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 10:00 AM
How come you never told me that before though? I spent so long wondering about it.

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 10:06 AM
LOL. I really didn't know you were looking for normal exits. Sorry. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 10:08 AM
Hehe, no problem. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 10:19 AM
Remember this next time. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 10:22 AM
Sounds good to me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 02:31 PM
I wonder where Deathgiver got to?

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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 02:33 PM
No idea.

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Deathgiver
November 8th, 2002, 02:56 PM
I'm here.

I was playing on medium difficulty. I shot at it punched it tried to click it.

And I did save & load on that level so think I'll load an earlier save & try to do it in one shot.

Thanks, DD.
Doom_Dude
November 8th, 2002, 03:52 PM
Ok Deathgiver! I think that timed door is a problem. Maybe I should change it so you don't have to get in that room. Let me know how it goes.

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Aliotroph?
November 8th, 2002, 11:06 PM
Maybe that's what made my savegame crash on that map the first time through.

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Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 05:06 AM
I'm really guessing here but I think it could be trouble. I never tested it with a save but maybe it's what caused your problem. I can't see what else it could be unless there's a problem with the numbers of monsters on the screen at once. I wonder where they used that timed door in Doom II?

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Deathgiver
November 9th, 2002, 08:49 AM
I'll be able to try to make it back to the plaza today. The other saved game was way back in Doomcatraz.

I liked Baron's causeway & Morbid Arena.

But my poor ol' Voodoo 3 didn't care for all the lights (Causeway) or all the monsters at one time (arena).

I'm not saying you need to change those two levels. I just need a faster computer.
Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 08:56 AM
The levels were originally made on a p166 with a 16mb VooDoo Banshee card. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

You could always noclip into that little room and hit the switch thats in there. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Deathgiver
November 9th, 2002, 09:16 AM
Of course jDoom changes how much power a computer needs to run a level with its Dynamic lighting & models.

"You could always noclip into that little room and hit the switch thats in there."

Are you referring to the middle section on the wall in the screenshot?
Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Of course jDoom changes how much power a computer needs to run a level with its Dynamic lighting & models.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Are you referring to the middle section on the wall in the screenshot?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah that's the one. Theres a switch in there that'll drop a wall and you can continue on your way. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif That's up to you of course..


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Aliotroph?
November 9th, 2002, 11:28 AM
Screw making it back there. If you're just testing then warp to the level. Ashwall Plaza is perfectly playable if you just start there. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 11:32 AM
Actually all the maps are geared to play from scratch. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Aliotroph?
November 9th, 2002, 12:52 PM
Maybe so, but some of them are damn hard.

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Deathgiver
November 9th, 2002, 01:03 PM
Right now Skyjake is in the middle of coding in a new level jump system & neither one is working at the moment.
Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 01:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Maybe so, but some of them are damn hard.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

/me hides the xtra cyberdemons I'm putting in maps. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Aliotroph?
November 9th, 2002, 02:10 PM
hehehe Killing cybers with pistols in co-op is funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 02:35 PM
You might as well just use pointy sticks. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Aliotroph?
November 9th, 2002, 03:09 PM
Chainsaws! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Jon Wells
November 9th, 2002, 03:14 PM
C'mon guys...

Is it REALLY possible to kill a Cyberdemon with a chainsaw without being in God Mode (the wimpy way)?

...Or was that a figure of speech (a metaphor)?

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Deathgiver
November 9th, 2002, 03:53 PM
If you could avoid the RL, it'd be possible.
Doom_Dude
November 9th, 2002, 07:21 PM
You have to put the chainsaw on the end of a very long stick and circle strafe. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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Aliotroph?
November 9th, 2002, 10:44 PM
You might be able to do it in co-op with two guys. You'd die a lot of course so you'd need a lot of chainsaws in that map. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Jon Wells
November 9th, 2002, 10:53 PM
Yeah... that might work...

It could probably take a bit of practice, although I have never played Doom in Co-op mode (I'm not into it, but thanks though ^_^).
Aliotroph?
November 9th, 2002, 11:12 PM
Co-op is fun but it can be a pain in the ass on a level that's not designed for it.

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Doom_Dude
November 10th, 2002, 05:07 AM
I know parts of Vilecore are a pain in the ass in co-op. That's because of the narrow corridors in a lot of the maps. I could be fixing that. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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