Dum de dum...

[Finite]

hrmmm what is this? A forum with no topics in the last 10 days? How absurd. Hi there Doom_Dude, just thought I'd drop in and say hello. Oh and I might have a good whine about how ICQ doesn't work whilst I'm here.

Can't get any of the bloody clients to connect to the bloody servers right now, and it's bloody pissing me off bloody hell.

Anyways I'll be going now, I might go and blow up some innocent chickens. Cya! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[The Undertaker]

Hi Finite, I'll stay for a while. That will bring some life to this place. Course I doutb you would want that for some reason.


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[Ferrari]

Doomed_Dude can't use his pooter much, because his PC rebelled against him. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

[Doom_Dude]

I'm BACK!

ICQ blows ape shit! I have it installed (again) but I disabled that mutha fukka because it blows! Actually I'm just enjoying the peace and quit of the silent ICQ mutha....because my head can't handle all the messages! Damn messages! Too many messages! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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[DooMAD]

So I guess you all really like ICQ then.

Oh, and Finite, why do you want to blow up chickens? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif That animal welfare group won't be happy. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif
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[Finite]

ARGH!! A CHICKEN!!

IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!

*BLAM*

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Kill Teh Mutha Chickon!

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[Aliotroph?]

Hey, if Finite wants to blow up chickens, he should try Chook Doom. It's some crazy MOD done by an Aussie (I think). You get to kill chickens and you even get a crossbow that shoots them!! It's great for a laugh. I have no idea where to get it now, but you ought to be able to find it with a search engine. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif

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[DooMAD]

I got the chicken picture from that site. I just can't remember where it is now.

[Finite]

I think I played that or a similar mod. You had a "chicken launcher" that fired explosive chickens. Pretty cool mod that http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Okay now I'm confused. Is this "Chicken" mod jobby a thinghy where you shoot chickens or is it a mod that has a chicken launcher type o gun? Or do you shoot chickens with a gun that chucks chickens?

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[DooMAD]

The rocket launcher fires chickens, but you don't shoot at chickens.....I think. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif

[Doom_Dude]

LOL, sounds kinda kewl. Chook DooM....never heard of it.

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[Aliotroph?]

Actually Chook DooM didn't make much sense. You shot at giant chickens, but there were also chicken guns. There was a crossbow (stolen from Heretic) that shot chickens, and the rocket launcher shot eggs. Some of the other sprites were changed too. If I find that site again, I'll post the URL. It was great for a laugh. I actually found out about it from my father (who doesn't play DooM). I think some Aussie told him (chook is slang for chicken).

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[Aliotroph?]

You can still get it! Just use Metacrawler and do a "phrase" search for "Chook Doom." The first couple of pages that come up are related to Chook DooM. They have weird URLs because they were made by amateurs, but they're cool. There may be more pages.

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[Doom_Dude]

I dunno....somebody said it was crappy.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">hrmmm what is this? A forum with no topics in the last 10 days? How absurd</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's more like no topics in the last 10 minutes since Aliotroph? and me turned up http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

[Doom_Dude]

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[Big_al]

No problem, beat a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

[Doom_Dude]

Hmmmmm, your using that pointed stick saying a lot lately. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

My mom uses that phrase a lot.

Any of you play Chook DooM yet? It's weird blowing up chickens with chickens. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Big_al]

Is it better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick?

[Doom_Dude]

I'm going crazy here! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[DooMAD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Any of you play Chook DooM yet? It's weird blowing up chickens with chickens.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never did get around to playing that thing. Oh well, maybe I'll have a look when this thread gets bumped up again next year. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

[Aliotroph?]

Well it's definitely better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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[Doom_Dude]

Your're all banned for bumping this topic! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm41.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

I take that back cause I bumped it too. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, can you believe they just don't bump topics over there? I don't see their logic.

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I almost bumped an olde Legacy topic conserning this Titlepic conundrum. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

The no~bumping thing is kinda funny, but I suppose they must've had a lot of people (or someone) bumping a lot over there and that can be very annoying. I remeber when King REoL bumped so many old topics in Rants, that all the new topics got burried on page 2 and 3. It pissed a lot of us off and so it does suck when a lot gets bumped.

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[Aliotroph?]

Well he was trying to spam. There is a difference and having no tolerance for bumping is a bit off.

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[Doom_Dude]

He was spamming big time, the fool.

Yes there is a difference and some old topics are useful. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

We always bumb the topics in here.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL@Bumb the topic. What are we, some kind of Forums Vagrants!? LOL! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

ROFL Damnit, I did it again. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

What's so funny is that the B and the P are not that close. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[DarkWolf]

You guys are infamous for bumping topics.

7831 posts in 106 topics.

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[Aliotroph?]

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[Doom_Dude]

I didn't think we were that bad. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm16.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

My bad. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

I was going to ask how DarkWolf got that number. Nevermind. Aliotroph? bad. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

It's eas to get that number.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah thats why I said nevermind.

Bad Aliotroph?

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[Aliotroph?]

Bad typist Aliotroph? is more like it.

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You should watch where you're typing. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, I suppose.

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[Doom_Dude]

Your funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Big_al]

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[Big_al]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">You guys are infamous for bumping topics.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dirty job but someone has to do it http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Your funny too! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Yeah, that was definitely his funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Big_al]

You guys leave my funny alone

[Doom_Dude]

Never! Your funny good! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

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[Doom_Dude]

Where was Big_al yesterday? Hope Big_al had a great BIRTHDAY! HAPPY B-DAY Big_al, whenever you read this!! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Big_al]

Its next week DD the 16th, I'm sure I said that? Thanks anyway.

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[Doom_Dude]

I dunno why I got it messed up. LOL. My brain is fried from the hell that was July! Fuck off July!

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[Aliotroph?]

I know lots of people with birthdays around that time.

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[Doom_Dude]

I don't. Everybodys birthday is around February except my bro next week and my dad and other bro in October....

Dammit I want cake now with a cute popping out of it.......

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I know 5 people who have birthdays within a week in February.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah its pretty crazy around here in Feb. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

No kidding.

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[Doom_Dude]

Damn I forgot to buy my black Ink cartridge again! Pisses me off that the black is $49, $59 for the high quality and the color....

What a ripp off. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm21.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Beats some of the old laser printer cartridges that cost $300.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I know but why does a little thing of black ink cost more than 15 to 20 dollars? Two cartidges cost more than my Lexmark printer. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I know. It's just sad.

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[Doom_Dude]

They have us by the nads. They know we need the ink so they crank the price. Are those refill kits anygood?

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[Aliotroph?]

I have no idea. I've never used one. Might be worth a try.

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[Doom_Dude]

My bro is supposed to fill my black cartridge with a refill kit he bought. He said it didn't work on his hp cartridge and it kept leaking. I gave him my empty black Lexmark cartridge. Now we wait. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Tell me how it goes.

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[Doom_Dude]

What's you printer manufacturer?

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[Aliotroph?]

HP. Mine's a laser printer. I have a Lexmark laser printer I haven't used at mom's house and I have a Cannon bubble jet printer somewhere. That thing is a piece of shit though. Always be HP or Lexmark.

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[Big_al]

I've got a Lexmark colour inkjet and a Brother laser.
Ink jets are a con, they sell the hardware cheap and make the money back on the supplies.

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[Doom_Dude]

I just bought a black ink jobby for my inkjet. I'm $50 lighter in the wallet area. I also bought Command & Conquer Renegade for $39. Hehe what a crazy game..... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I have Renegade cause it won't run on my friend's shitbox computer.

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[Doom_Dude]

Haahaa! I think it's a not too bad game but I noticed a mis~aligned texture right off in the training area. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif The door textures are fullbright or something and look silly and the targeting recticle on everything is a pain.

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[Aliotroph?]

Actually, all the lighting in the buildings is crap. There are no fixtures everywhere and there are places where it just looks plain weird.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah everything is just a square box inside and some of those comp textures look crap.

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[Aliotroph?]

All the effort went to the outside stuff I think.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah it did. I like all the stuff flying around overhead and driving the vechiles is fun.

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, that stuff was great.

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[Doom_Dude]

The CD thing is retarded though. It wants CD2 then CD1 at boot up. I gotta find the CD crack for this jobby.

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, that sucks a lot.

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[Doom_Dude]

That just makes it easier for you to scratch a CD, the freakin' fools.

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[Aliotroph?]

Could always burn backups or something.

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[Doom_Dude]

Nah that might be a waste of a CD. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I cracked that bastard and no more CD BS. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Excellent! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Hey the building(s) I was in last night actually looked pretty good. I had to up the gamma in the game and the brightness a bit. Now things look improved. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Cool. I did see a couple that weren't bad looking.

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[Big_al]

The only game I've played in weeks is Legacy

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[Doom_Dude]

Ive done nothing all week but edit my maps.

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[Aliotroph?]

I've mostly played Legacy. I played some Tenebrae though.

Damnit Al, play some Tenebrae. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

I gotta finish playing Jedi Knight II and Renegade.

I saw 'The Thing' is on the shelf. Looks like a good game. Hmmmmm wonder if theres any cool reviews flaoting around the net..

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[HyperFlash]

The Thing. That game's tight. You have to control your team and calm them down or else they might go psycho and kill each other or you. It's a good survival horror game.

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Ahhh that sounds really kewl!!!! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif

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[HyperFlash]

Here's the review.

Given the bleak track record of movie-to-game translations, The Thing--based on John Carpenter's 1982 horror film, which was itself a remake of the 1951 Howard Hawks original--comes saddled with some understandably low expectations. Against the odds, it's actually good. In fact, if it weren't for a general scarcity of terror and a control scheme unsuited to its action-oriented gameplay, The Thing would be great.

You can have up to three companions in your entourage.

Rather than retelling the movie's plot, the game starts right where the movie ended. You're sent to investigate the pair of Antarctic research stations that provided the setting for the film's events. Along the way, you'll run across various survivors and fellow investigators, with whom you can team up. This is The Thing's most innovative idea. At any given point, you can have as many as three computer-controlled teammates traveling with you. You can hand them weapons and ammo, heal them, and give them simple dog commands such as stay and follow. Because the thing itself is a parasitic infection, nobody knows who's infected and who isn't. Teammates each have a trust meter that gauges how firmly they believe you're not a thing. Various actions, such as healing them, helping them in combat, and giving them equipment, all raise this trust level, while other actions lower it. If a companion doesn't trust you, he (they're all male) won't follow your orders and may eventually even attack you. Each person also has a fear level. As his terror rises, he becomes more unhinged. If nothing is done to relieve his fear, he'll eventually go crazy, at which point he may become totally unresponsive, kill himself, wet his pants, or start firing his weapon blindly. Roughly the same actions that increase a team member's trust in you will also quell his fears. Of course, any of your companions may actually be a thing, meaning at some point he'll transform into a monster.

In theory, this fear/trust/infection system sounds like a great way to capture the film's atmosphere of unremitting paranoia. In practice, however, it has little impact on the game. The actions that earn your teammates' trust and lower their fear are all things you'd be doing anyway--arming them, supplying them with ammo, healing them, and fighting monsters. So while it's possible for a sidekick to lose his mind or turn on you, it'll never actually occur except as the result of a conscious decision on your part to make it happen just to witness the results. Only once during the short seven hours it took to finish The Thing did a team member ever succumb to fear, and that may have been a largely unavoidable part of a puzzle sequence.

The threat of companions turning into things is less a source of terror and more a minor inconvenience, since the things are generally no match for your weapons. When a teammate turns, you'll kill him and move on. It's generally no great loss, both because existing team members often don't follow you across level transitions and because new members are available at regular intervals. Every other video game is about a solitary hero fighting a horde of monsters, so just having a coterie of armed guards--even if some of them are things--actually further undercuts the game's horror quotient.

In fact, The Thing is really more of an action game with monsters to shoot than a moody survival horror piece. The hallmarks of the survival horror genre--a relatively frail hero and a scarcity of munitions--simply don't apply here. As in a traditional run-and-gun shooter, weapons, ammo, and health are abundant, and your character can take a real beating. At no point will you be low on health and down to your last few bullets. Compared to you, the things themselves are pretty weak. You'll often find yourself chasing a thing as it flees in terror from your flamethrower. So in some sense, it works as survival horror from the thing's perspective.

However, as an action game, The Thing is largely successful. The controls are its only real drawback. You view your character from a third-person perspective. You can look left and right with the mouse, but not up and down. In order to look up or down, you need to hold in a free-look key, during which time you can't move. Unless you're in the free-look mode, aiming is automatic. It's a control scheme much more suited to a console gamepad (The Thing is also available on the PlayStation 2 and Xbox) than the PC's combination of a keyboard and mouse. Having no auto-aim (or even an option to toggle it on or off) and a persistent free-look--essentially the de facto standard in third-person PC games--would have made for a much more satisfying control scheme.

Other than that, though, The Thing is a good shooter. The teammate AI is great in a fight, and there are a lot of well-staged battles. One that takes place in a small building being attacked from all four sides by waves of things is especially intense. The puzzles are lightweight, but generally intuitive. The game has an almost perfect blend of story and gameplay--interesting things happen without intruding on the ongoing action. The game even utilizes a limited save system that, with a few exceptions, is lenient enough to avoid being frustrating.


Teammates will often react to stress by vomiting.

On top of all of this, The Thing's presentation is almost flawless. The lighting, detailed texture work, and atmospheric ambient sound effects are all top notch. The designers have managed to wring an amazing amount of variety out of what is essentially a long walk through a concrete bunker and the barren landscape surrounding it. The character models are well animated, and, in a nice touch, all of the team members you run across are unique from each other--each has a unique face and inflection.

The Thing is kind of short, it's not especially effective at making you feel afraid, its most intriguing gameplay elements are somewhat extraneous, and it suffers from a wonky control scheme. Yet, thanks to some high production values and consistently interesting action scenes, The Thing rises above these flaws. It could have been great, but in light of the checkered history of movie-licensed games, being good at all is a pretty impressive achievement


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[Aliotroph?]

Sounds like a weird game.

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[Deathgiver]

"I've mostly played Legacy. I played some Tenebrae though."

So You have Quake now, Aliotroph?

Did you try out Aliens quake yet?

I'm curious if Tenebrae works with mods.

[Aliotroph?]

Tenebrae should work fine with mods. I've never heard of this Aliens Quake. I like that idea though. I'll have to go find that.

There was a DooM conversion for Quake II. I want to try that too.

I also want the texture names from Quake so I can do some new quicka and dirty bump/gloss maps for Tenebrae.

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Aliotroph?

Aliens quake is here.

http://www.sg-drive.com/~hell/openquake/main.htm

"There was a DooM conversion for Quake II. I want to try that too."

Do you mean The SOG TC?
it's here.

http://www.planetquake.com/sog/

[Aliotroph?]

Sweet! Found lots of GL ports of Quake as well. Thanks.

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[Deathgiver]

My fav GL Quake engine is Darkplaces.

[Aliotroph?]

Don't think that one was on there.

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[Deathgiver]

it's in the the "patches" section, third one under "More Quake engines".

[Aliotroph?]

Tried that. It's a good one alright. No transparent water though. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif The lights look nice and the light textures are actually rendered properly.

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[Deathgiver]

It does transparent water on my system.

Do have the vis patch?

Are you using the Quakeon quake launcher?

[Aliotroph?]

I applied the vis patch before. It works with Tenebrae which is in the same folder.

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[Planky]

Hey Doom_dude, could u send me the nocd crack for renegade? (or the site you got it from)

[Doom_Dude]

Yeap in email...

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[Planky]

Thanks DooM-DudE

For some reason, my cd drive doesnt like the first renegade cd, other cd drives it works fine http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Welcome Planky. Some drives don't like certain CD's for some reason. My old CD rom drive didn't like my Unreal CD.

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[Cain]

But i'm think the "telejano5" engine is very good for Quake, and it run with older graphic-card ( like ati xpert2000 pro )...

http://telejano.berlios.de/option/telejano5full.zip

try all engine, and choice the good for you and your system http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Cool avatar you have there Cain! Also your English is very understandable. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, your English is good enough Cain. I can understand it without a problem. DD's right too. Your avatar is cool.

Thanks for the link. I like trying out new game engines. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Congrats on passing 10,000 posts Aliotroph? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, thanks. I didn't even notice. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL!!! You sure you didn't notice? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif

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[Big_al]

My god he's a posting machine.

[Doom_Dude]

He's crazy to post so much!! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

You're just as fast. You've consistantly been 3000+ posts ahead of me for a few months now.

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[Big_al]

You guy are professional posters, I'm just a talented amauter.

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[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">You're just as fast. You've consistantly been 3000+ posts ahead of me for a few months now.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ohhh keeping count are we? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">You guy are professional posters, I'm just a talented amauter.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

No we're posting engineers and your a topic technician. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

LOL Anyone noticed how garbage men are no called sanitation engineers? Since when do they have engineering training?

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[Big_al]

Aliotroph? is a Spam Scientist http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif

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[Big_al]

I'm a Reply Redesigner

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[Doom_Dude]

If you say so!

I was told I'm crazy. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Well, I try and say something meaningful in every post. If not meaningful then at least a bit funny. I'm not up for that today though.

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[Big_al]

Yeah you've got to be in the right mood to post those funny comments

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[Aliotroph?]

Yep. And that's just not me now cause I'm tired after a big day of doing all kinds of BS at school.

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[Big_al]

I've been in good mood since Friday http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
Maybe you can tell by my post count increase? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Yep.

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[Doom_Dude]

Wow that was really meaningfull and funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, I was getting tired so that's all you got. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Big_al]

Three letters? Is that all that post was worth? Geez http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif

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The End of the Old Order (http://www.doomheaven.info/wads/oldorder.zip),When the Sleeper Wakes (http://www.doomheaven.info/wads/sleeper.zip),
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[Doom_Dude]

It's a shame when you guys get slack like that. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Big_al]

Yep

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Shape of Things to Come (http://www.doomheaven.info/wads/sottc.zip), Your Stick (http://www.doomheaven.info/wads/yrstick.zip), Lava Plant (http://www.doomheaven.info/wads/lplant.zip), NoName 3d (http://www.doomheaven.info/wads/noname3d.zip)

[Aliotroph?]

LOL That was predictable. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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