Editing = Sleepy

[Doom_Dude]

Why is it whenever I get back into editing I can barely stay awake to actually edit. This pisses me off!

*crawls upstairs to make coffee*

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[Aliotroph?]

Not sure. I'm taking a break from editing for a few days so I can do other stuff.

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[Doom_Dude]

I got some coffee and I perked up. Just fixed some things in map07 and I just played it through. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

May map is going to look pretty. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[Doom_Dude]

Heehee, I bet it does. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

I'm only half done the work on it though.

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[Doom_Dude]

My map is looking spiffy! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

[Monty Burns]Excellent...[/Monty Burns]

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[Doom_Dude]

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm41.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Cute does that too, but in a really evil possessed sounding monster voice. Makes her sound like a goblin or something.

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[Doom_Dude]

LOL@Goblin voice. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I'm making Vilecore lava. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Nice! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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[DarkWolf]

*Yawns*

It's hard to get into the editing mood unless I have a sketch or a very good idea about the layout. I occasionaly start and finish one from scratch, but I just attribute that to luck. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Textures are a bitch when it comes to finding/making custom ones. I can find a good wall texture or something, but then I can't find a floor/ceiling to go with it.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
Dominus canis est

[Doom_Dude]

My problem is I can get so freaking bored, very easily. I feel like starting something completely new but I want to get as much done on Vile2 as I can before I start anouther project. I really don't need good sketch to get me started on something new but after playing some doom / jedi knight II and whatnot I start getting ideas.... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

I satyed up late last night because of the damned Humidity. No wonder I'm half baked. LOL.

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[Aliotroph?]

Until I get a good idea I get distracted when trying to edit.

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[Doom_Dude]

Not hard to get distracted. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Well, I did more mapping last night because I couldn't sleep. It was mostly details. There's only one little area I have issue with in my map and then everything else is just details and scripting.

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[Doom_Dude]

Kewl Aliotroph? that you're getting it done.
How does that scripting stuff go in the wad? Is it like a text doc or what?

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[Aliotroph?]

It's just a wee text file that gets inserted in the wad header by a cute little program we have. They should have made it a lump, but we'll live. Any more questions?

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[Doom_Dude]

No more questions for now. I think I'll stay away from scripting as I suck at any code stuff. It sounds difficult. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

The only original stuff I've managed to think up with Legacy's engine was because of scripting. I guess it's just how I think.

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[Doom_Dude]

OH I see! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Some things in FS are easy. You can spawn monsters all over your map in a real hurry without need of teleporters but I like the complex stuff that can enhance the game engine.

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[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I know but I don't know how. :/

I don't want to make Vilecore a Legacy only megawad anyhow though..........

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[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, that's true. There are some Legacy things you could do to it that wouldn't affect other ports though. They would just ignore it.

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[Doom_Dude]

When Vilecore2.0 is done I might mess with some script stuff but that means DeepSea or some foreign editor..... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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[DarkWolf]

Why would you need Deepsea to do scripting?

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
Dominus canis est

[Doom_Dude]

Beats the hell outta me. Something Aliotroph? said about DoomCad and using FS.

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[Aliotroph?]

No, FS is done with notepad and a little program that inserts it in the wad file (DeePsea can do it too though). DoomCAD won't do the other Legacy stuff like the new linedef types.

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[DarkWolf]

I just use NWT to insert mine so I can save it with a .txt extension, rather than .fs. (The last thing I need is another file association).

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
Dominus canis est

[Doom_Dude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">No, FS is done with notepad and a little program that inserts it in the wad file (DeePsea can do it too though). DoomCAD won't do the other Legacy stuff like the new linedef types.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oohh yeah, that's what it was.

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[Aliotroph?]

I think DeePsea should include a Dehacked editor since it never runs under win2k/XP.

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"Computer, install a recursive subroutine." - Harry Kim, Star Trek Voyager

[DarkWolf]

You can actually edit/create Dehacked patches with notepad. A bit difficult if you can't see the default values though.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
Dominus canis est

[Aliotroph?]

Setting all those bits is a bitch. That's why I think deepteam should do it. Wouldn't take much for him to do since it's always just included as a lump these days.

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[DarkWolf]

It would be another selling point for him too.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
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[Big_al]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Dehacked editor since it never runs under win2k/XP</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dehacked works fine on XP for me http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Thats good it works for you. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Well, my copy of XP barely ran anything made for DOS. It almost ran DooM (bad sound) and it did run DETH but that's about it. Dehacked wouldn't run and even my Java stuff wouldn't run. In fact it caused Codewarrior to bomb out.

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[DarkWolf]

Shouldn't be too hard to make a Windows based editor for dehacked patches. It would take some time however.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
Dominus canis est

[Big_al]

Is the sources are available you might just be able to recompile it on XP.
Its either the screen handling or memory management that probably screwing up.

[Aliotroph?]

Makes sense. It always whined about not being eble to find it's ini file though. Even though it was right there.

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