Aliotroph, wad download problems?

[Big_al]

Any joy downloading those wads now?
Hey Double D, can you see if you can download any of the wads from Doom Heaven?

I uploaded a download stats logging script that seems to be causing Aliotroph problems but I works okay for me.

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[Doom_Dude]

Just downloaded yrstick.zip and it works ok for me Big_al. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Sweet! It works now. Thanks! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Cheers

[Aliotroph?]

Your post count says 1557. I thought it said 1337 for a while there. Silly blind eyes of mine. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Hopefully there will be enough spare for me to finish my new wad for the 2000th post.

Trying out the DeepSea demo, okay so far.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, it seemed pretty good. I'm trying out Wadauthor now to see if I like that. It's lots quicker than DEU/DETH but there are a couple issues I need to sort out before I can do any real mapping. For example, when I create a column in the middle of a sector, how the hell do I delete the damn thing???

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Luck with that editor jobby. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Damnit if I feel like making a Fakk 2 map now. I downloaded the tools but I need to clear off 700mb of space on that drive. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

WTF??? 700MB! That's crazy.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">INSTALLATION:

The tools ships with almost no game data. As a result you will have to unpack
pak0.pk3, pak1.pk3 and pak2.pk3 in order to start building maps for the game.
You will need about 750 MB free on your hard drive to unpack these files. To do
this, drop the PK3 files on zip extraction utility like WinZip and unpack the
paks with the Folder Names option checked into the "fakk" directory of this
install. Once you have unpacked the pak files, the editor and tools will be
able to access them freely.</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>


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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Why can't the editor just use the packed paks???

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I'm not too clear on that either. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Stupid world. Why can't editing be simple damnit?!?!?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Why can't it be simple indeed!!!!! It drives me crazy. All I want is to make a simple room or 2 to see if I like the editor with editing that game and all you get is a bunch of BULLSHIT. I looked in those pak files and there is a TON of stuff the editor doesn't even need like Millions of Mp3 files. Ugh! Back to Doom I guess. Tackle this jobby anouther day. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Those bastards and they're sloppy design!!!

Even HL editing can be a real pain. Back to my wadauthor. I made a little progress with that last night.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Setting up Worldcraft for the first time can be a pain in the ass. I converted all my Half-Life maps to Opposing Force maps because I wanted to use the xtra gear like weapons and monsters plus the other environment and scripted stuff.....BUT it's not possible to make an Op Force Mod because........Fuck I can't remember but Gearbox has it set up so you can't. I had my splash screen and had my mod appear in the Custom game menu....but even if you start it in Op Force it defaults everything to Half-Life when you boot up the game. So I'm really peeved off about that. My Destination Mars Mod is dead in the water. Oh well.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I didn't know you were doing a mod. That would have been cool. I was converted DooM's e1m6 to HL once. It was looking damn cool but Worldcraft killed my map and I was too lazy to do that again.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I was heavy into Half-Life mappin after playing the game. I joined a SP Mod team and I wrote a big document on the new monsters while the leader rounded up a coder and a sound guy. We just got started and I made a list of map ideas for the mappers to use as a guide. It was suppose to be a Mars mod and the whole idea was pretty kewl. Then one day they deciced to make a DM mod called Farm Wars instead. So the mars idea died and the farm thing was more than half done when they dropped it. Glad I didn't follow them on that farm thing. LOL. So I said screw you guys I'll make it myself and I took my Half-Life maps and started to do some different stuff and decided to go the Op Force route cause I liked it so much. Oh well......thats the way it goes. Something might come from my Half-Life editing yet.....at least it was good practise. But now if anybody wants me to join them on a project I always tell em 'no thanx' because I'd rather do it myself and not have somebody else tell me the whole thing is not going to get finished. That sucks when that happens.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I almost did a DooM mo with my best friend once be he wasn't into it enough. Oh well.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh well is right. Maybe DooM III will be a little easier to make stuff for...rather than these other 3D games. So far the first Doom games seem to rule as far as ease of making even basic levels go. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Methinks lighting should be easier. Building maps will probably always be fairly confusing because building 3D stuff on a 2D screen is just plain tricky.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

That part doesn't bother me. I have enough practice in laying brushes that I find it fairly easy now. But it's all the techno crapp that kills you...like setting things up and finding the best compiling tools and then some error comes up and you delete an entire room to kill it and then you try to get a scripted sequence working and the monster just stands there. LOL.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

DooM III should have simple compiling cause most of the math is done in the game. Scripted sequences are a pain though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I hope your right about that. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I started awhile ago making some kewl machinery for Half-Life. I made this experimental, spinning generator thingy in a lab. It looks really kewl but now I don't know where I put the map. I was going to add a 2nd generator that you had to turn on, to power up anouther section of a lab, but never got to it.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

That sounds fun.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I found the map. LOL. It's not very big and it needs soooo much work it isn't funny. It was twice the size it is now because I went beserk and deleted the entire top section awhile back. The engineer won't cut the blasted door either...as usual. The buttons for the doors are waaay to big and look silly. Ugh, its also kinda ugly. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL Sounds like that Facility map I was making for Duke.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. I think the best part is the generator but that needs some work too to look better. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I built a nifty reactor in Duke. It looked like the warp core from Voyager kind of. You probably saw it in my screenshots I did a while back.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I remember that slightly. It looked kewl from what I remember.

HeyA! That's what I wanted to ask you.... Have you played Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force yet??? I think you must've as your such a fan of Star Trek. Did ya?

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

No, I haven't. I really want to though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">HeyA! That's what I wanted to ask you.... Have you played Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force yet??? I think you must've as your such a fan of Star Trek. Did ya?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've played it, it's ok, Q3A with Star Trek graphics and weapons mainly.

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah I have it installed from months ago and never played very far into it. The borg and the borg vessel looks kewl. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

We are the Grob! Resistance is utile! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

HEH http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

A texture is acting weird on me. Dang!

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Textures are pretty.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Without textures the game world looks quite dull even with the cool lighting effects n such.... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Now I must go.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I hate games with cartoony textures.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hmmmmmm which games had cartoony textures? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm25.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Duk3D had a few but I didn't mind. Renegade has it's share. Wolf3D's are excusable I guess. Blake Stone had some.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I haven't played Duke3D in ages. I never played Blake Stone or Renegade sooooo....I'll take your word for it. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Okay, whatever. Blake Stone was kind of a silly game too. The animations were all garbage and the levels were really mazy. I always got lost and that game even had an automap.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Too much maze is bad. Speaking of bad textures.....Doom has it's share of cruddy textures.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, some of them are really hard to use anywhere. I don't think some of them are even in the game. I remember seeing some all over the alpha maps that I can't ever find except for maybe once or twice in the final version (and that's in maps that were in the alphas).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Not only are some of them hard to use, some of them are downright ugly. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Yep. That they are. I just played all the DooM alphas and the Press Release Beta. They were kind of neat, but they crash a lot. Now there was some BAD texture work. Ugh, it was horrible in places! In the 0.5 version though those pizza box medkits from Wolf3D make a comeback.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL, I never played the alphas....not that I remember. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

If you go to teamtnt.com you can find a link the new 3darchives place that replaced the one on cdrom.com. In the pub/idgames/historic folder you can find all the zips of the DooM alphas and all the old beta versions (1.4, 1.6, etc) that we weren't allows to have before. You might like some of the graphics from them. Lots of them just suck though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh kewl, gotta have a look at that. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

It's bloody hard to look at the 0.2 one cause it always crashes for no reason. The Press Release Beta has 3 very almost final levels (Nuclear Plant, Unholy Cathedral, Containment Area), but lots of stuff is different. There are lots of slow elevators where stairs and stuff should be. Lots of the effects are more primative and the BFG is really weird.

The really neat thing is the sky. It's that F_SKY1 flat you always see in the editors. You see a sky that shows the mooon without any atmosphere. It actually looks realistic.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds cool except that I tried to load the teamtnt page just now and it just bogged out.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Weird cause it worked for me more than once. I got to it from the link here though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Maybe I had a crapp link when I tried to find it through google.

LOL Cute called google, 'Booger' once. LOL.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Where'd that come from? LOL I say "goober" a lot now.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I don't know but I showed her Google once and then later on she referred to it as Goober. LOL I'm sorry did I say she said Booger? I meant to say Goober. I highly doubt she'd ever call anything a booger. LOL. I'm also not going to ask her if she says booger. LOL.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL I piss off my Cute by saying .com all the time. Or stuff like .net, .org, .edu, .co.uk, .ca, etc.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. That sounds silly.

What the .com is going on in here?

LOL. Like that?

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

No, people always say stuff and if I don't hear it I just say ".com?" It drives them crazy. Sometimes when they tell me something I'm supposed to know I just say .com. Or I say it when they ask a question. I also sometimes use a variation and say "com." just to confuse them.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

You been snacking on the funky mushrooms or something

[Doom_Dude]

I dunno what .net that means but whatever turns your crank. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif I say 'shoot' sometimes but thats Cute's fault.

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I got the idea from my best friend in high school. He heard it somewhere (probably on TV) and he was making fun of it for a while. Well, for me it became a habit to say that and it's only died this year. Sometiems I still use it for confusion's sake. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Confusion is good if you find it funny. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Damn I'm supposed to edit some DooM now. Maybe I should play something to get in the mood? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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All that glitters is not gold.
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I recommend playing Vilecore. Powersurger and Chemical Facility are really nice looking levels. DooM's engine excels at the hi-tech places more than the others (just the way it happened).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. Thanx for the recommendation but I played Rune instead. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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People will believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is....
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

I'm stuck on level 4 of Quake II. Still can't figure out where to go. I'm near the end, but I don't get it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Olde news again. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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People will believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is....
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah, I should try level 7 some time soon.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

What happens on level 7? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif

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People will believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is....
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

By level 7 my eyes were burning so I had to stop playing on the computer after 3 hours.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Holy smokes. You must like Quake II http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif I was the same way when I first played it. I bought Quake II when it first hit the shelves. I remember calling and calling the store to see if it was in and it seemed to take ages to arrive. The thing is......2 places advertised it in thier flyers about 2 to 3 weeks before it was released (Zellers and Future Shop). :/ Then one day a few weeks before Christmas I walked into Future Shop and buddy was putting it on the shelf. The dude at the checkout said I was the first one to get a copy in the store. I thought that was so cool. LOL.

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People will believe what they want to believe, no matter what the truth is....
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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

Hehe, I payed $10!!! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif LOL It's a neat game. The dynamic lights are nasy looking though. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Ninja]

You know what they need? Quake for GBA. They got Doom and Wolfenstein. Why not Quake?

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[Doom_Dude]

Your really anti-quake engine lighting Aliotroph? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

After what Valve did with the HL engine it's hard to go back to Quake II. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Most of their stuff is good, but some of it isn't implemented very nicely; probably cause they had to compile on slow computers or something.

As for Quake on GBA, I'm pretty sure it can barely run DooM.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I like all the id engines and equivalents from DooM upwards. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Aliotroph?]

All id games have their awesomeness but some are just way better than others.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

I thought Unreal Tourny whipped Quake3A arse.

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[Aliotroph?]

One of my friends ICQ'd me that one once. I still haven't played it and can't find the file anyway.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Runs faster.
Every weapon has dual fire mode.
You can blow people's heads off.
More maps.
Need I go on?

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[Aliotroph?]

I just passed Quake II. It seemed kind of short. Oh well. I even found the part with the credits and pics (which was kinda corny).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

I never finished Q2 http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

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[Big_al]

Never remember noticing any cartoony textures in Wolf3D post screenshot of the ones in question.

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[Aliotroph?]

Most or all of them are cartoony looking. They just don't look real. They're too blocky and brightly coloured. They looked great in RTCW though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Must be your computer, I never notice that at all.

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[Aliotroph?]

Games of that day always are. It's not my computer. The game just looks like a cartoon.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[bucky_lastard]

Now they do but back then when it first came out they were amazing.
Bet if you will be saying the same about the current crop of games in ten years time.

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Now I become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

[Aliotroph?]

Some more than others. Some games have very very believable environments. Even DooM looks far more 'real' than Wolfenstein did and I'm not saying that just because it's newer. The textures were better and so were the sprites.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

It also had an bigger pallette which makes the difference.

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[Aliotroph?]

How many colours did wolfenstein have then?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

It was EGA (http://a1computers.net/pcvideo.htm) (I think, someone will correct me if I'm wrong) so 64 colours max.

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[Doom_Dude]

I never noticed this cartoony stuff. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Actually it was VGA.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I thought it was CBC. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Sometimes it's not easy following the path of least resistance.

[Big_al]

Still didn't beat 3d monstor maze on my ZX81.
The whole 3d maze and monster thing was made up of ASCII characters.

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[Aliotroph?]

I'd like to see that. I've never even got to play with one of those 8-bit machines. When my dad bought his first computer in the 80's he spent $7000 on the most expensive IBM XT he could find with a whole 640k. I have an okay flight sim for it somewhere though and lots of arcade type games. I also have the first King's Quest game which is awesome.

BTW: How does the match for drawing 3D things work anyway?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Check out http://home.clara.net/rsergeant/
not tried it yet myself

[Aliotroph?]

Looks kewl. I had a PDP-1 emulator in Java once that played nothing but Spacewar (the only game written in 1962). It's bloody hard.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Some old games are kewl.

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[Aliotroph?]

That java ZX81 thing won't run. CodeWarrior whines about some kind of address error when trying to open the jar file. Anyone who wants to recompile it for me...

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Works fine for me, download the JRE from the Sunsite not some weirdo CodeWarrior one.

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[Aliotroph?]

I have some other stuff that might work, but I'm too lazy right now.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Not as lazy as me http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Too much Scotch for all you lot. If you'd learn to cut back on that, you could be a world power. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

I hardly drink any alchol at all these days.

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[Aliotroph?]

No wonder you're so crazy. It's the withdrawal. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Not had any alchol for about 3 weeks now.


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[Aliotroph?]

Wow, that's impressive.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Not really, still got half a box of 24 bears left over from Christmas.

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[Aliotroph?]

Heh, would last about 6 hours in my house. Whenever there's beer it doesn't last long.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Dam my old PC's playing up, keeps hang while I'm trying to burn a CD http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm23.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

That blows. It wastes CD's too. You can only use so many coasters.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Its okay, fell over before starting writing, bloody EasyCD, fired up Nero this time, so far so good.

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[Aliotroph?]

Nero is sweet.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

Yeah sticking photos on Video CD is good

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[Aliotroph?]

Kewl. I need more CD's.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Big_al]

I've got about 60 blanks at the moment http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

My brother had a bunch but he filled them all with movies.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark