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Doom_Dude
April 26th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Just started to make a new DM map a few hours ago. It's not going to be very big but will feature some new textures and a an altered version of the red Doom torch. It should be done on Saturday or Sunday methinks. All I have is one room made and now I gotta think up what else I want in this map. Other than that I'm saying nuttin' cept that I have a name already. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Aliotroph?
April 26th, 2002, 09:28 PM
Damnit, I have no idea how you guys can map so fast! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
DooMAD
April 27th, 2002, 03:12 AM
Obviously we have too much spare time on our hands! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif
Doom_Dude
April 27th, 2002, 05:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Obviously we have too much spare time on our hands!</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, Plus it's shitty outside.
Also no Cute to talk to. :/
Might as well map something I figure.

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Aliotroph?
April 27th, 2002, 09:57 AM
I'm tempted to work on that ZenNode jobby. I'm at a sticky part though and I'm half asleep.

I'm stuck on level 4 of Quake II. I lowered some bridge in the mine and I'm supposed to access it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
DarkWolf
April 27th, 2002, 10:53 AM
* Pops-in for a second

If you have the map sketched out it can be built a lot faster.

* Pops-out

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Doom_Dude
April 27th, 2002, 12:30 PM
*Pops out of editor*

Sketching out a map or a complex room is always a good idea. I don't always do it though. I think I should've this time around.

*Pops back into editor*

Shit I need to fix that texture. :/

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Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2002, 10:13 AM
Yep. It helps.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Kaiser
April 28th, 2002, 11:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Damnit, I have no idea how you guys can map so fast</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

its too hot outside, I am lazy, and I am home all day. this explains why http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

plus I love level editing too.
Doom_Dude
April 28th, 2002, 12:54 PM
My new DM map is almost done. I altered the burning barrels today and that is kinda kewl. Hmmmmm, wonder if anybody did that before? Oh well, somebody probably did......

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Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2002, 05:40 PM
No idea. Can't wait to see the map. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
April 28th, 2002, 06:00 PM
Tommorrow night should be a release day I hope. I'm still messing with the little things. The map itself is done as far as the layout goes. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

I'm wondering if I should leave the rocket launcher and the Plasma gun out? (definitely no bfg bs). Its a smallish map and I was thinking maybe just the shotguns and chaingun would be good enough. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Aliotroph?
April 28th, 2002, 06:44 PM
Should be. I like those guns in small maps.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Big_al
April 29th, 2002, 05:09 AM
I don't usually plan much of my levels out before hand.
I just see what ideas I have while editing.
Doom_Dude
April 29th, 2002, 06:12 AM
Planning does help a lot if you can actually bring yourself to do it.

When I say small map I mean about half the size of Templecore....maybe a little less than. I'm leaving the rocket launcher and plasma gun out. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Aliotroph?
April 29th, 2002, 08:37 AM
Too bad my little brother never wants to play DooM anymore.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
April 29th, 2002, 12:32 PM
What the hell is with legacy multiplayer? I ran Lavapitt in Legacy SP mode for testing purposes. Now the map is complete and Legacy won't run it in Multiplayer mode. I keep getting 'a wad file was not found' error then it boots the first map in DooM II. I used to get that before. Fuck! So anyhow I booted up my Zdaemon server and jumped in my map with ZDoom and it works fine. So what the hell is up with Legacy? :/

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Big_al
April 29th, 2002, 01:02 PM
I asked this question in the Legacy forum last month. http://forums.newdoom.com/postdisplay.cgi?forum=Forum9&topic=001544
Its a bug in the multiplayer launcher.
Apparently if you use map mapname from the console to load your level it works.
Doom_Dude
April 29th, 2002, 03:50 PM
Cheers Big_al!! I was thinking there was a Legacy file missing or something wacky going on. I hope they fix that danged bug soon as it's not very fun to type in all that shit in the console. :/

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DarkWolf
April 29th, 2002, 03:57 PM
If you're using a wad with texture, flat, music etc. replacement you can run the game with "Single Map" using your file(s) and then use Legacy's ingame multiplayer to get things going.

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Scientia et mors
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Aliotroph?
April 29th, 2002, 05:00 PM
I use a similar solution. I put the old -file parameter into the multiplayer options in the launcher. It works quite nicely and avoids the console step.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
April 29th, 2002, 05:25 PM
I didn't get to test this map in actual dm play and I dunno how much longer I can wait for Looney2ner to wake up from whatever he's doing. I'm minutes away from uploading this thing and I'm sure theres enough ammo / weapons for 5 players.....so what the hell. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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Aliotroph?
April 29th, 2002, 05:52 PM
Hehe, I wonder if anyone ever tried any of my maps in DM. I supported it, but I never tested it since I didn't have the means when I made them. They're probably not good for that since they were designed around single player.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
April 29th, 2002, 06:19 PM
Heehee I bet somebody has. I'm going ahead with the upload now of my map! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Aliotroph?
April 29th, 2002, 09:50 PM
Maps are good. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
April 29th, 2002, 09:52 PM
Yes they sure are and I just made a new texture for my new map I just started. LOL.

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Aliotroph?
April 29th, 2002, 11:09 PM
Ah, where would games be without textures? Probably in the dark ages. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
April 30th, 2002, 05:02 AM
No texture game would be very ugly. Then again there used to be those txt based games. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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Aliotroph?
April 30th, 2002, 11:31 AM
Get Hovertank 3D from Id. It has no textures at all. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif http://www.idsoftware.com/games/vintage/hovertank/

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Ninja
May 1st, 2002, 04:02 AM
Wow, and I thought Wolfenstein had bad graphics...

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Doom_Dude
May 1st, 2002, 09:29 AM
LOL, that looks dreadfull. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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Aliotroph?
May 1st, 2002, 06:08 PM
I've seen and played worse. I have a polygon based flight sim from about 1985 that runs on XT's and clones. The ememy planes aren't even filled polygons.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
May 2nd, 2002, 05:35 AM
LOL@1985 Flight Sim. I played the console Pong a long time ago. LOL. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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Aliotroph?
May 3rd, 2002, 06:19 PM
I played Spacewar. It's ten years older than Pong. You have to try and kill the other spaceship (player 2) by flying your ship around and shooting him (as he does the same). The trick is there's a big star in the middle that exerts gravity on your ships and their missiles. You have to keep from falling out of orbit. The physics are very realistic. It was written in 1962 by some MIT grads. That game is bloody hard to play.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Doom_Dude
May 4th, 2002, 05:56 AM
Written in 62? :/ How come I never heard of this thinghy?

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Aliotroph?
May 4th, 2002, 11:05 PM
You never heard of it because it was written for the PDP-1 mini-computer. Those machines were massively expensive and only big universities had them. All the university comp-sci people knew about that game. That link Pickle-Hammer posted about the histor of Pong had a lot of info on it. Some guy tried to market Spacewar in '66 as an arcade machine called 'Computer Space' but it never sold, likely because the game was too complex to just learn by looking at it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark
Ninja
May 5th, 2002, 08:07 AM
Ever hear of a Genises game called Hard Drivin? That is spelt corectly too. Its 3d and made in 1987. Ran at about 10 frames a second, had no textures, and there was this little cow, that if you hit, it went "moo". It was such a cool game. You could even go through loopdy-loops and jump over crud.

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DarkWolf
May 5th, 2002, 08:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">made in 1987</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was the year of the arcade version, Genesis wasn't out until '89.

I played it in the arcade a lot, it was a precursor to games like San Francisco Rush and stuff like that.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
446F 6F6D
Ninja
May 5th, 2002, 08:25 AM
Ahh, said 87 on box so I thought that is when it came out. Wonder if the graphics were any better in arcades... Oh, One time I beat the Phantom Photon (or Pantom Futon as I like to call him). I always used to crash though the cones during his race and cheat to win, but one day I said NO! I'm gonna do it right. And I did all those loops the good way. And I won. Such a great game...

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DarkWolf
May 5th, 2002, 08:27 AM
The copyright will still say '87 on the Genesis box because that was the original arcade release.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
446F 6F6D
Ninja
May 5th, 2002, 08:34 AM
Makes sense! Glad someone else has played that game.

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