Megawad Forum Initialization.

[Doom_Dude]

Hello fellow Doomers of the Doom community! Now that my forum is up and running, thanx to Wmull, you can all ask me anything you want about my upcoming Megawad, the Megawad site, and such.

If for some reason you never checked out my site then go over there and see whassup with it. http://www.newdoom.com/themegawad/

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The only good Vile is a dead Vile .

[Zack]

Hi. What's New Doom?

[Finite]

Ermm What's a Wad? And why is this one so Mega? :P

[Ferrari]

Whats a forum?

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Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love.
-Albert Einstein

[Doom_Dude]

The correct answer is yes.

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The only good Vile is a dead Vile .

[Ferrari]

Hmm. I don't see how that answer applies to the 3 questions above. They require an explantory answer, not a yes or no. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love.
-Albert Einstein

[Doom_Dude]

That is correct.

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The only good Vile is a dead Vile .

[Ferrari]

Zuh?

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Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love.
-Albert Einstein

[Zack]

I saw four questions. Not two.

And that Zuh makes seen. SEVEN

GARH...there's something totally phucked with my V key!!! i hit it and it doesn't show the v until i hit it real hard or hold it down or something...grarr9

[Zack]

Meaning, from this sucky PC at school.

[Ferrari]

What seven questions? I only see four. And 2 nonsense answers, and 1 argument.

Hm to help you with your V problem, why dont you just have a pen with you, and if the V won't show up, just write the V on the screen?

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Nothing is impossible, except dividing by zero.

[Finite]

Roger That.
Alpha GO!
<Gold Sniper, sights are hot>
All teams hold!
Blue team move out!
<Gold Sniper, negative, sights are cold>

Follow me.
<<Hostage: Get me out of here!>>

All teams, move out!

<Gold Sniper, sights are hot>
*boom*
Team mate down!

NOOOOOOOO!

Sorry, been playing too much Rogue Spear of late http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Rogue spear! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! Move two feet............BOOM.......your dead........restart mission.

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The only good Vile is a dead Vile . (I'm Talkin' ArchVile!!!!)

[Finite]

HAhaha... the game takes strategy man. Don't expect to go out all doom-marine-like and live! You have to use you're team, slice the pie, use destractors like grenades and flash-bangs. It is hard, but damn cool. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Ya......its cool but I don't have the patience for all that lurking & strategy stuff which seemed overkill in Rainbow Six. I wanna come in with all guns blazing.

The only strategy game I liked was Battlezone and the only lurking game I played was Thief: The Dark Project.

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The only good Vile is a dead Vile . (I'm Talkin' ArchVile!!!!)

[Finite]

hehe I get ya. I find it damn fun playing doom and running out with plasma spraying everywhere too. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif But then again I find it just as enjoyable to neatly place 3 10mm bullets into a terrorists head from above whilst crouching and leading over a balcony looking down the scopes of my silenced MP5, thus rescueing the hostages and preventing the building exploding. It takes planning, quick reflexes and good execution, and it's damn satisfying to do the mission well. I guess that's just me. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Doom_Dude]

You make it sound like fun http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif but somehow I never noticed whilst playing the start of the game because I got pissed off somehow.

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http://www.ltdgrafex.com/d_d/doomdude1.GIF
My Website:The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/themegawad/)
The Vilecore (http://www.newdoom.com/files.asp?dir=/themegawad&file=vilcore.zip)
Templecore (http://reviews.newdoom.com/detail.cgi?num=30)
Chasmcore (http://reviews.newdoom.com/detail.cgi?num=49)
Coming Soon: Deathcore™

[DooMAD]

I don't like stategy/shooter hybrids. They get boring after a while. I don't mind sniper games in the arcade, like "silent scope" but I still prefer action/shooters like "Area51". BANG BANG BANG BANG .... RELOAD..... BANG BANG .... RELOAD.....
he,he,he.

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http://www.doomad.f2s.com/lee'sd2.bmp
www.doomad.f2s.com (http://www.doomad.f2s.com)

[DooMAD]

Hello? Where'd every body go? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif
Hey! Who turned out the lights! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif
I'm all alone in an empty forum. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif
I think that's sad
http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm45.gif

[Aliotroph?]

Uh, what's this forum actually supposed to be about??? Megawads are cool. Doom is cool. Ports are cool. Why can't we talk about Dooom??? If you're making a Megawad, tell me what it is. I want to know. Cause if it's going to be detailed and hi-tech and full of killing, then I want it.

Ahhhh, such simple happy thoughts...

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"Carnage killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[DooMAD]

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm33.gif zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz huh? wha? Oh, hi.
If you want to download Doom_Dude's megawads, check out his site.

www.newdoom.com/themegawad/ (http://www.newdoom.com/themegawad/)

[Doom_Dude]

This here forum be about my site. It's called "The Megawad" and I started my site when my megawad project was half done and I didn't have a name for it. The Megawad Is Here! (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad)

Anyhow the megawad turned out to be called Vilecore and was released last Christmas eve. Ummm, it's 32 levels of DooM 2 with killing stuph. Check it out if you're interested.

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http://www.ltdgrafex.com/d_d/doomdude1.GIF
My Website:The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
The Vilecore (http://files.mindlessgames.com/index.php?fileid=568)
Templecore (http://reviews.newdoom.com/detail.cgi?num=30)
Chasmcore (http://reviews.newdoom.com/detail.cgi?num=49)
Coming Soon: Deathcore & Vilecore II http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

[DooMAD]

Looks like everyone's gone again, so I'll go back to being bored.
http://www.contrabandent.com/pez/contrib/edoom/handball.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Welcome to my boring hell.

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http://www.ltdgrafex.com/d_d/doomdude1.GIF
My Website:The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
The Vilecore (http://files.mindlessgames.com/index.php?fileid=568)
Templecore (http://reviews.newdoom.com/detail.cgi?num=30)
Chasmcore (http://reviews.newdoom.com/detail.cgi?num=49)
Coming Soon: Deathcore & Vilecore II http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

[mystic]

Nah, Im off somewhere else

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So long and thanks for all the fish

[mystic]

Okay, so Im bored stiff. I thought if I hang about long enough I might think of something funny to say.
Im still waiting

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So long and thanks for all the fish
(hitch hikers guide to the galaxy)
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liam/6.gif

http://www.gtroad.net

[Doom_Dude]

......can't remember what I was going to say in here. Must be getting aged.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/death_sig2.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore™ is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Make a Gigawad!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL!

Making a Megawad is bad enough...

Now that you mention it, isn't there a port that supports wads larger than 32 maps? Can't remember.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I'm surprised that feature isn't more common. I'd think one of the most important aspects of a port designed for editing would be dynamic numbers of levels. In fact almost every aspect of the game could be defined in some kind of user-made files that make it really dynamic; maybe just the wad file itself.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

Why not a terrawad instead. Well, in DeePsea you can make wads with up to 99 levels. Would probably crash any non-port (no music and level name).

[Aliotroph?]

Id was being dumb for coding that into the exe instead of putting it into a .cfg or .con file or something. Come to think of it, most developers do that. Wonder why.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

Raven did that with Hexen.

[Doom_Dude]

Programmers again! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Programming is fun! On a bad day it can be really frustrating though. You may know what you want to do but you will have no idea how. You might even know how, but you won't be satisfied with the solution (I'm always looking for better ways for everything).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Being able to program even a small program must be very kewl. I can imagine how frustrating it must be thou when things go screwy or buggy.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

There are two frustrating things in programming:

1. Your program is thousands of lines of code and you either can't figure out the logic or you can't debug it because your head starts to hurt.

2. You run a program with an algorithm you took an hour to devise and it crashes the IDE. You then discover you forgot to save before you tested it. The real bitch is that you probably only switched a "<" for a ">" or something.

A variation on this is when your sole copy of the proggy is on a disk and Windows says "Can't read from specified device." One time in twenty ScanDisk can fix this. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm43.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

That's bad. That's very bad. Losing hours of work really sucks. I've lost a few maps from crashes and I once accidentally saved a new hex2 map over anouther. At the same time, it must be very satisfying to make a program from scratch and have it work.



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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Yeah. I have an awesome game planned in VB (top scrolling action maybe with a DooM theme). I've been having a ball just trying to figure out how different components should work. The hardest part in VB is speed because everthing is Windoze.

Now all I need is a copy of VB...

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

Don't worry about speed, most of us aren't still on old PII's like you still. Just make it resource hog that M$ is known for.

[Aliotroph?]

Just drawing a set of 960 map tiles nearly crashes a 300MHz PC. That's insane! I've come up with some weird tricks to make this thing work faster, but it's evil. I also have to find ways to do my own animation (which flickers without more weird tricks involving timers and shit. I still don't know how to scroll a map (working on that).

M$ really likes to screw with people in VB. The timer control sucks but you can get a better one in the Windows API. WTF? Why didn't they just use that? At least the sound should be fairly easy with DirectX (that's probably the only portion that will use any DirectX).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[DooMAD]

I've just started to learn VB at college. I'm currently working on Space Invaders! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

[Doom_Dude]

That sounds really confusing to my non-coding brain cell, except for the part about directX. I'm wondering thou, why can't you use directX for the entire thinghy?

http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/edoom/ALD.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Lurkerzoid]

Don't think about coding dude and get back to mapping! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Where is my copy of Doom III? Hurry id software!

[Doom_Dude]

Well I worked all day on map02 and that was mostly texture work. Some of my textures didn't quite look right at first... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

I guess Aliotroph? is heavy into coding today...haven't seen him in forums for awhile now.

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[The Undertaker]

And the longer he stays, the longer I get to catch up.

[Doom_Dude]

Well I can't argue with that http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

No I wasn't up to coding. I was at my friend's house and he wouldn't give me the chance to do any coding. He wanted me to help him with his dumb-ass physics (I actually like physics).

I can't use DirectX because it's impractical. For just drawing tiles and monsters in 2D there's no point. I don't know that graphics stuff anyway. I'd have to spend several extra months. I also don't know how to interact with the tiles then; I'd have to create some type of custom objects (I'm using these image objects for tiles that are really easy to interact with but really slow).

Sound is easy because you just call a function that plays a given sound and give it some instructions on what to do with looping and whether or not it can be cut off or cut off other sounds, etc. Music is just played and looped when a level starts (really really easy in VB).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

Excellent! I just coded the part that adds the correct number of rows and columns to the map editor based on ther user's choice at the beginning. When you start plotting hundreds of empty pictures it starts to slow down (Microshit again). Now I need that scrollable window thingy.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Kewl! Hard to imagine what this thing looks like but it sounds kewl and it seems like your learning a lot. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

LOL Looks like shit right now. All I've got is the thingy that draws tiles. I don't have the scrolling thing yet so I didn't put a visibility check. That means that a map of 30x30 tiles (900) will load them all at once and cause Run-Time Error #7: Out of memory. This occurs even though they won't all fit in the screen.

I don't even have pics in these yet (but that's really really easy). I need the scrolling thingy before I can really get much further though. Maybe I'll ask in the Legacy forum. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh I see. So what you desribe sounds like a side scrolling / olde school kinda game. Is that what it is?

The last side scroll game I played was Army Moves for the commodore 64. You were in this jeep dealie, and you had to jump holes and shoot, ummmmmm choppers I think. LOL, hard to remember. I hated that game http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

This is a top-scroller. It's going to be similar to a game called Cyber-Dogs (there's a new version called C-Dogs - written in C). I used to play it with my best friend all the time.

Here's what I had in mind:

- Top-scrolling action game where you run around maps and kill to your heart's content
- Different AI for different enemies (I'm not even close to wanting to code that yet)
- MIDI/MP3 music (customizable and very easy to do)
- Faked isometric walls (easy to do in VB in a cheap fake sort of way - things can hide behind walls this way too)
- Comes with the map editor (why the Hell not)
- Fully customizable (I could just release the engine)

Here's my issues:

- VB is slow drawing stuff and responding to repeated keyboard commands, multiple keystrokes are technically not possible (I can fake it though)
- I can't figure out scrolling damnit
- Run-time error 7: out of memory
- programming vector physics for guns sucks

You get the idea. It could be fun. I'll just use swiped DooM graphics/sounds/music. The AI will be completely different (likely simpler).

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

Run time error 7: Your too cheap to go out and buy a stick of ram for $10

[Aliotroph?]

I found a way around that: it's called switch an image for a picturebox (damn picturebox). It shouldn't take 64 megs to draw a bunch of empty tiles though. It doesn't really matter now because I rewrote it to only draw the visible tiles (this is what Legacy needs more of).

I even figured out a cheap way to do the scroll thing. Microsoft keeps taunting me with better ways though. Does anyone know how to add a Multipage control? This is what I think I can use for a better scrolling method.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Ram is cheap now. The last time I bought a 128 mb stick for a hundred bucks....now it's like $60. At least a month ago it was http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif Maybe it went up again?

Your top scroller sounds more interesting now that you mentioned DooM http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif . Maybe newdoom should have a programmers or coder forum http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

That would rock! I don't hang out in other VB programming forums cause I love you guys so much. There are actually quite a few coders here, and many of them are familiar with VB.

I only have cheap way of doing the scrolling now that could work in the editor, but won't work for the game engine. I need a better way but I can't find that damnable multipage thinghy.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Coding forum might be possible.

Sounds like coding really sucks up alot of resources. Say, what did they use to code DooM?

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[The Undertaker]

Imp++

[Doom_Dude]

LOL. That's about the only "coder joke" that would ever make sense to me http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Time for some Java methinks.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">code:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><pre>

private topicResponse(boolean confusion) {

if confusion == true {
System.out.println("You will parish in our world!");
}
else {
System.out.println("Damn, you actually understand programming!");
}
}
</pre><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Translation: Since you were confused about coding it will print out: "You will parish in our world" and start a new line.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

Here's my favourite to bug people with:

Some object-oriented programming languages (OOPs) use the syntax: "object.method" for many statements. This means you refer to an object (button, etc) and then a method you can invoke on it (move, initialize, refresh, etc). For example btnExample.refresh.

I like to go around to my friends and say: "You.fuck!"

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Aliotroph?]

This topic has been foresaken methinks.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hahaha, tis not forsaken. I laughed at the first post but then the 2nd one I didn't get. A coder I'm not http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

It's simple: programming syntax [object].[method] works for people "you" is the object and "fuck" is what's done to that object.

Programmers like their "dots". I've discovered replying "dot" to a question really drove people insane for a while, but they get used to it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

LOL@dot_joke

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

.net? or maybe .com?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I dunno. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm25.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

.the .product will make you happy...

.the .product will make you believe...

...beautiful...

.the .product will make you beautiful...

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[DooMAD]

http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/confused.gif ????????

[Doom_Dude]

DooMAD it's some kinda coding joke lingo thinghy!! Ahhhh! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm29.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

It's that 64k movie posted in the Legacy forum. Remember that? It had the funny dialogue that used this weird lingo. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm29.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I missed that jobby, so that's why I'm ignorant of what the joke is about http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/sig/vilesig1.GIF
The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

When I go by my dad's house tomorrow I'll e-mail it to you Doom_Dude. That thinghy is damn kewl! Their site is http://www.theproduct.de .

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Okay Kewl.

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[Aliotroph?]

I sent the e-mail. That movie is really neat.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

.de, that means only one thing, their site is german, just like this one (http://www.newdoom.de).

[Doom_Dude]

K will look at it after.
That link was chugging along so I nuked it's loading...

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
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[Aliotroph?]

That link didn't work for me at all. I just tried it a minute ago. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm10.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Holy Crap! I forgot to check me email!

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
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[Aliotroph?]

LOL@e-mail! I'm sick of the crap Micro$oft keeps pulling with my e-mail! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Fuckin' HEH! Stoopid spam_email junk! I had so much shit in my email that I had to delete 20 spams before I could even see your email.

That movie is pretty kewl. Just watched it a few minutes ago. I liked the first bits the best where it shows the outside stuff and the outer castle. I want to know, how the hell did they cramm all that info into 64kb!!!?? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif Holy Shit that amazing! I had a few avi downloads that were like 3 to 6 megs and they looked like complete shit and that's in a tiny window. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I know a bit about the secret Doom_Dude (I'm a coder geek http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif ) It's not a real movie. They used D3D to draw all the stuff. They didn't even store the textures, just algorithms for making them. The music was done with a built-in synth. All of this was in turn compressed.

It's still a very very impressive piece of coding. They had to write several apps to design it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Yeah, it sure is impressive http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif Is that the only movie they released?

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Their website http://www.theproduct.de has some links that will lead you to other products they created. I'm not sure what these are because I've never looked.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

K, might have a gander at that later. Thing is I get bored looking around obscure websites and such in a heartbeat. Besides I have today off and I'm making some kick-ass mega textures! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I didn't want to look at their page at first either. I did though because I was really bored.

I got my zip CD back. I just have to install it now. That involves getting my brother away from the puter long enough for me to really play with it.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

A CD full of Zips. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm11.gif

I need to get one of them label making thinghys for CD's. You know, the kind that goes onto the CD itself. Need that sorta dealie before I get confused as to what's what. Makin' CD inserts and booklet jobbys is no prob but I think my CD's could use labels. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm17.gif

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I have a friend with one of those label thinghys. It's pretty cool.

I meant I got the CD for my zip drive back. The software works but now I can't make my computer detect the drive. That's odd because it works on my friend's computer and it worked on my laptop.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

Zip drive, you mean oversized floppy drive.

[Aliotroph?]

Yep. That's the one. It still can't be found by my box though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

OH THAT KINDA JOBBY!

I have a Zip 100. This is the second zip drive as the first one locked up during deletion of a file. The armature inside the zip actually goes into the hole that's uncovered by that little door on the front. This is a very flimsy piece of equipment! During my lock-up the armature piece that reads the zip, drove itself into the "very thin" material of the zip's floppy bit. Upon extraction of the zip disk, parts of the armature refused to let go and from closer inspection, the zip's floppy bit was cut along the outer edge like a cookie cutter. I hate zip drives now and I use mine rarely...usually only to transfer data from my comp to my brother's. Luckily the zip drive was replaced free of charge.

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

That's what I use them for. I'm trying to get my old wads off my friend's 486 onto my comp. I can't get it to detect my drive though. Now I have these wads I can't do anything with. I might have to burn them to a CD.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

That sucks when a comp won't recognise a device. Hopefully you can get them from the other computer somehow. What about a floppy? Can't you get them onto a floppy or two?

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
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[Aliotroph?]

Most of the files are several megs. I was playing with modified sprites at the time and that was before ports so I had to have them all.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh I see. Gee whiz on a motorbike! (Just made that up) There must be a way to get those files :/

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
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[Aliotroph?]

I could steal his computer and connect via parallel cable to mine. I don't think his family would appreciate it though. I think I'll just wait until my new one arrives.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Hope your new comp will like that Zip. When are you due to get the new puter?

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I was supposed to get it already but since it's ordered from the government nobody knows. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Oh I See http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif .

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

I had to tell my brother I was doing computing science homework to boot him from here this time. It's partially true. I'm looking for the solutions to the midterm I just wrote. My prof told me to but I can't find the damn things. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm10.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Whatever works to get access to the olde computer jobby! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Made a little progress with map editor last night. Can't figure out the storage of my tiles in my scrolling system yet. When I get that I'll be able to code the rest of the editor really easily.

Micro$oft doesn't use a common syntax for their damned language. They have different ways of doing everything. Their paradigms aren't even consistent. You could learn that language if you were into imperative or object-oriented programming damnit! What the fuck is wrong with them?!?!?!?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[The Undertaker]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">What the fuck is wrong with them?!?!?!?</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thats the age old question that no one will be able to answer?

[Doom_Dude]

They're just sick and money hungry like all the other big assed companies on this planet.

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[The Undertaker]

When you got monopoly, you fix things are your own pace. Its not like anyone is going to beat you.

[Aliotroph?]

They won't fix that. They seem to believe they've got it right. They don't have any real organization behind that damn language.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

They don't give a rat's ass...

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
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[Finite]

Hey! Aliotroph? is a demoscene freak too! Cool http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Yeah das.produkt had some very nice compression techniques, an impressive technical demo that. However there is no synth involved with the music, it's all in tracked module format. Probably only a few samples used, and low quality at that... but with a decent module playing engine it sounds quite good.

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[Aliotroph?]

They said it was a synth. I don't see why it couldn't be. None of their instruments sound like they were sampled from anything. I can see why mods might get used on those things though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Finite]

Hrmm.. yeah I just read up on the site. Strange that... maybe the intro was done using synths and the main tune was tracked? Because the main tune definitely doesn't sound like an FM synth, and I very much doubt they could have made a wavetable synth in 4k (not much point really.. when you can use a module player). Oh well.... mysteries, mysteries http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

No I think it was a synth. In 4k they stil couldn't do a very good MOD. All of the instruments are synth sounding. It's just a good synth. That's easy to do when you only use less than 10 instruments. None of the sounds sound recorded.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

Ack! Synth talk! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.

[Aliotroph?]

Synths are neat!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I never tried any Synths, so I dunno.

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The Megawad (http://www.newdoom.com/hosted/themegawad/)
Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
Gimme a wicked weapon a mean assed monster in a kewl level and an engine that delivers.