Space Shuttle Columbia [Archive]

GoldEyes

February 1st, 2003, 06:38 AM

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NASA declared an emergency after losing communication with space shuttle Columbia as the ship soared over Texas several minutes before its expected landing time Saturday morning.

The shuttle was carrying the first Israeli astronaut and six Americans, and authorities had feared it would be a terrorist target.

Fifteen minutes after the expected landing time, and with no word from the shuttle, NASA announced that search and rescue teams were being mobilized in Dallas and Fort Worth areas.
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There is a video on tv now that shows a bunch of white thick streaks through the air above Dallas...we can only assume it's Columbia. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

How sad. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif Flashbacks to Challenger.

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February 1st, 2003, 06:41 AM

That doesn't sound so good. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

Man I've not posted here for a while. I'm soooo bored and pissed off with life right now. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm22.gif

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Doom_Dude

February 1st, 2003, 06:50 AM

Yeah my dad just told me about this and I looked on the CNN website. It don't sound too good at the moment. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

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DarkWolf

February 1st, 2003, 07:06 AM

No sonic booms here in Florida today.

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February 1st, 2003, 07:21 AM

Yep. They are all gone. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

Mad Max RW

February 1st, 2003, 07:21 AM

It's only a matter of time before everyone gets on the terrorism badwagon.

Doom_Dude

February 1st, 2003, 07:23 AM

DarkWolf it was over Texas.

They're already saying it's highly unlikely to have anything to do with terrorism.

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Phoebus

February 1st, 2003, 07:26 AM

No chance of that. Totally out of range of surface-air missiles.
Re-entry is the 2nd most risky phase of space flight, next to the launch phase.
This will doubtless set the entire space program back, once again, for some time to come, as did the Challenger disaster, 17 years ago, in 1986.
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February 1st, 2003, 07:28 AM

MidnightStorm

February 1st, 2003, 07:31 AM

I never thought I would see two disasters like this in my lifetime...I still rememember the Challenger. I was in Geometry class when it exploded... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm31.gif

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February 1st, 2003, 07:41 AM

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Mad Max RW

February 1st, 2003, 07:47 AM

I remember the Challenger incident. Shortly after I met the mother of Christa McAuliffe, the teacher on board the shuttle. Did you know the crew was alive the whole time during their fall back to earth? The initial explosion didn't kill or even knock them unconscious. A number of shuttle diagnostics or whatever were going on from inside all the way up until they hit the ground. Now that's scary shit. I would have taken the suicide pill the second after the shuttle exploded.

Rellik_jmd

February 1st, 2003, 08:17 AM

Wow, that's aweful. They have video now of it breaking up on re-entry. A sad day indeed.

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Ninja_of_DooM

February 1st, 2003, 11:14 AM

No-one could have survived. But let's hope they don't all jump on the terrorism wagon. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm31.gif

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Deathgiver

February 1st, 2003, 11:26 AM

I just found out about Space Shuttle Columbia.

I still remember seeing Challenger on it's last launch on TV.

I really feel for the families of the lost Astronauts.

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GoldEyes

February 1st, 2003, 11:49 AM

Nah..I don't think people are going to jump on the terrorist bandwagon. Within minutes of the shuttle going down, the news, every channel, reported it was pretty darn near impossible for it to be any kind of terrorist attack.

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February 1st, 2003, 11:53 AM

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February 1st, 2003, 12:19 PM

Its so sad ...seems to be one bad thing after another http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

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Fly

February 1st, 2003, 01:01 PM

It's a sad,sad,sad day in NASA history. God is with the fallen astronauts now. Hope they don't wait three years or more to go back up to space like they did on Challenger.

Ninja_of_DooM

February 1st, 2003, 02:18 PM

Only time will tell.

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Big_al

February 1st, 2003, 04:23 PM

I've just seen the news, not good at all.

I saw bits on CNN where they were already interviewing some of the families of those aboard. I can't believe they did that. IMO that's the news crews going too far.

picklehammer

February 1st, 2003, 06:43 PM

Original message edited due to me reading this:
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Nah..I don't think people are going to jump on the terrorist bandwagon. Within minutes of the shuttle going down, the news, every channel, reported it was pretty darn near impossible for it to be any kind of terrorist attack.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

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GoldEyes

February 1st, 2003, 07:28 PM

Ironic much!? Too much of a big ol sign...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>We are on the verge of war in the Mideast, a war springing in its modern origins from the tensions of the Arab-Israeli conflict; our president, a Texan, believes we must move on Iraq. The space shuttle that broke up today carried, for the first time ever, a Mideastern astronaut, an Israeli who won fame when he led a daring raid on a nuclear reactor in Iraq, 20 years ago. The shuttle broke up over the president's home state, Texas. The center of the debris field appears to be a little town called Palestine.

If Tom Clancy wrote this in one of his novels--heck, if Tim LaHaye wrote this in one of his Left Behind books--his editor would call him and say, "We're thinking this may be too over the top."<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Editorial By Peggy Noonan

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Mad Max RW

February 1st, 2003, 07:52 PM

Coincidence maybe? I can't wait for all the dumbass self proclaimed prophets like this Peggy Noonan to spout their bullshit about Armageddon and "signs from God" and other crap.

GoldEyes

February 1st, 2003, 07:59 PM

She is just a woman who wrote her opinion. I don't doubt there will be other people, or "so called prophets" spouting things off soon...but this is just a lady who pointed out those conincedences in her much larger article.

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Aliotroph?

February 1st, 2003, 09:33 PM

I heard about all that this morning. I was saddened but not really surprised. That space shuttle was more than 20 years old. They are the most complex machines built and they run on one of the most explosive fuels ever conceived.

In the end it won't matter whether NASA grounds their shuttles. It won't be long before commercial versions of those start going up and they'll end up being 10 times more efficient, just as safe (or safer) and quite a bit cheaper.

Hopefully they'll learn something valueble of that like they did with the Challenger accident though. Nothing sucks more than having good people die with nothing learned to prevent it happening again.

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picklehammer

February 1st, 2003, 09:37 PM

Oh well. 17 people just died from an avalanche today in the province I live in and no one seems to care.

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Aliotroph?

February 1st, 2003, 09:41 PM

You have a point there. People are choosy about when they care if someone died. Thousands die in cars all the time and yet those are still called routine. One space shuttle blows up and everyone freaks out and starts getting extra-religious.

It's as if we're supposed to care more about these guys because they're pilots, doctors and soldiers.

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picklehammer

February 1st, 2003, 09:47 PM

And America always gets super religious despite the fact that they are supposedly open-minded

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Rellik_jmd

February 1st, 2003, 09:52 PM

I'm assuming that you live in BC Pickle, but you also have to keep in mind that the 7 astronauts died in view of anyone able to look vertically. Also, those astronauts bodies have been blown apart and are scattered over half of Texas. There have already been some very gruesome discoveries. Extremely gruesome infact.

Alio, the shuttle may have been built over 20 years ago, but these aren't regular airplanes. When they are maintained it's on a level unequaled in aviation history. In '99 Columbia was overhauled. That means they spent 17 months and tens of millions of dollars ripping it apart, checking EVERYTHING (sometimes microscopically) then retrofitting it with the "latest and greatest". That and the design may be "old", but it was decades ahead of it's time all things considered. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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picklehammer

February 1st, 2003, 09:58 PM

Well if I die gruesomely, then people will care. Where did I leave those knives....

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Aliotroph?

February 1st, 2003, 10:05 PM

Yeah, I think they finally did upgrade the computers in the shuttle to 486's. NASA's track record for checking things microscopically isn't as good as they'd like you to think. They lost two Apollo mossions to electrical problems and Challenger to an o-ring that didn't like the cold. That's only counting the manned missions. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Bush was right about some stuff though. Space travel is inherently very dangerous and those guys knew the risks. They were certainly damn brave. I hope they died painlessly (as in really fast).

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mystic

February 1st, 2003, 11:24 PM

Its a sad loss, Im all for space exploration and the folk who go up there are brave souls, they know theres a high risk of disaster every trip. I admire that courage and am genuinely sad about this disaster.

Maybe now that America has found a new respect for human life they will be good christians and abandon their war plans.

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DtM

February 1st, 2003, 11:31 PM

Bush was right about SOMETHING? :O

picklehammer

February 1st, 2003, 11:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>good christians and abandon their war plans<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Christianity = war.

It has always been that way and it always will. Religion causes war.

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Deathgiver

February 1st, 2003, 11:40 PM

"Maybe now that America has found a new respect for human life and they will be good christians and abandon their war plans."

That or we could go to war to out of respect for human life.

I admit it sounds odd.

And we are not all christians in America.

Pickle, you are right, history is full of "My god is better than yours & I'll prove it by beating you up."

picklehammer

February 1st, 2003, 11:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>And we are not all christians in America.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

The traditions of your country are, your president is, and many people are.

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Felix

February 2nd, 2003, 12:06 AM

Hmm I woke up to this news with my alarm radio..

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Christianity = war<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
*Sigh* I wish people wouldn't look at the "christian west" and assume we are all like that, Its like saying all muslims are like the "Al Quiada" get a grip

Religion=War
Is slightly more correct, as soon as people start listening to others without question or reasoning, your gonna get idiots who go in trying to be a "mercenary of (the) god(s)"

apparantly during the take-off, a piece of something got ripped off the extra rocket or fuel tank things and clipped the wing of the orbiter, they arent sure whether that had anything to do with it or not, but also there were some dangerously high temperatures recorded soon before the incident, maybe the mystery "thing" managed to take out some of those heat-absorbing ceramic tile things with it...

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picklehammer

February 2nd, 2003, 12:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>*Sigh* I wish people wouldn't look at the "christian west" and assume we are all like that, Its like saying all muslims are like the "Al Quiada" get a grip
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If Christianity didn't exist, our history would be more peaceful.

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Aliotroph?

February 2nd, 2003, 01:37 AM

Nah, you'd just have a pile of pagans doing the same things. Life is more peaceful when you teach everyone to read and think for themselves. Religion is the root of about half of all evil. The rest just comes from related things like greed, envy, lust, etc. Of course, since I figure religion is about half of evil I stay way away from it.

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Big_al

February 2nd, 2003, 02:12 PM

What about the Raelians?
Aren't they just about having sex all the time??

mystic

February 2nd, 2003, 02:48 PM

No, thats what their friends in the press say about them to attract gullible new members.

"Got to war to save lives"

Ahem, the Kurds that Iraq bombed are terrorists armed and trained by Israel and the USA (like the KLA we used as an excuse to 'save lives' in Serbia).

Im sure a lot of the more moronic americans will get a kick from a war against an enemy that cant fight back but I happen to know a lot of good american folk who are totally ashamed of the things their government does in their name.
The way I see it, the only countries Iraq is a threat to are Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Knowing a lot about those countries and the evil stuff that goes on there I would rather we arm Iraq and let them do as they please there in exchange for cheaper oil.
Let them get rid of those corrupt medieval minded regimes once and for all.

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Big_al

February 2nd, 2003, 03:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>No, thats what their friends in the press say about them to attract gullible new members<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
/me tears up application form

Rellik_jmd

February 2nd, 2003, 06:31 PM

Realistically religeon itself has little or nothing to do with human folley. If we didn't have religeon we woulda just found some other excuse. THe real reason we do the horrible things we do:

we're animals.

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February 2nd, 2003, 06:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>The way I see it, the only countries Iraq is a threat to are Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Knowing a lot about those countries and the evil stuff that goes on there I would rather we arm Iraq and let them do as they please there in exchange for cheaper oil.
<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>Saddam lover :P

How the heck did the topic get changed around so much?

Also, although I disagree with the Bush's Iraq policy the U.S. is ok in my book. Anti-Americanism is so in fashion these days.

Buncha sheep...

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Deathgiver

February 2nd, 2003, 07:06 PM

"Anti-Americanism is so in fashion these days."

It seems so, don't we help out other countries? As an American it hurts. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm10.gif

picklehammer

February 2nd, 2003, 07:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>How the heck did the topic get changed around so much?<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
My fault, sorry.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>It seems so, don't we help out other countries?<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only if it improves your image or economy in some way.

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Deathgiver

February 2nd, 2003, 07:43 PM

"Only if it improves your image or economy in some way."

So you think we are glory hounds? let's just say we have a difference of oppinions here.

Felix

February 2nd, 2003, 11:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>If Christianity didn't exist, our history would be more peaceful.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

you can say the same for Germans, niether of us are particulary pleased with our pasts, we can only learn from it and make the future better..

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picklehammer

February 2nd, 2003, 11:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>you can say the same for Germans, niether of us are particulary pleased with our pasts, we can only learn from it and make the future better<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Negative Eugenics works to a degree. But the people who die don't seem too happy about it.

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mystic

February 3rd, 2003, 02:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Saddam lover :P<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Prick :P

Saddam is an evil ruthless bastard, I hate him, but I admire the way he stands up to more powerful nations who, for all the pretending to have noble causes in mind are really only hell bent on exploiting Iraq economically and making sure Israel is the dominant force in the middle east. If Saddam was friendly to Israel and allowed western capitalists to move in and exploit his people the way so many dictator types around the globe do (in return for fat bank accounts in Switzerland) the USA and UK would be bullying Libya or Syria right now.

If they really thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction they wouldnt dare send troops there, witness North Korea.

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