'Barrels of toxic goo, Do they REALLY blow up?' Investigator questions.

[Monkey]

Come on! Just cuz it is glowing green stuff doesn't mean a bullet (or fist for that matter) will make it explode! It is kinda strange if you think about it. I guess the creators of DooM were smokin' some weed when they thought it up. I dunno. I'm kinda just raving here now, but only a little. And you know what is worse? The fact that if you are reading this, you for some reason are listening to me, dispite the fact that I warned you. Ahh, isn't it ironic? Yes I guess I think. Isn't it ironic? Yes I really do think! It's a like raiiiiin, blah blah blah blah blah blah; blah blahblah blah green light, blah blah blah blah blah. Who would have thought? It figures.

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Touch me... how can this be.

Belive me... the sun always shines... on TV.

[Doom_Dude]

Now Monkey dude, step away from the toxic waste barrel, because the fumes are making you crazy.

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[Looney2ner]

LOL http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif You started off with a good point Monkey, and just kinda, left us there...... Are you sure that your not smoken that same weed they were? http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Death Squad Member 666]

No guys...I think it is more serious than that...Monkey is into "Jagged little pills".

Real Nasty stuff indeed...
Alanis Morissette, Isn't it ironic
if ya' get my drift...

Oh yeah, those barrels in DOOM are full of petrolium based solvents and sh**,
so there is nothing wrong with them exploding when shot at...

See, no one said they were supposed to be full of nuclear waste now, did they ?!

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Now they learn why they are afraid of the Dark. Now they learn why they Fear the Night.

[Monkey]

petrolium based solvents?
Where the hell did it say that?! (digs out his DooM manual)...

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Touch me... how can this be.

Belive me... the sun always shines... on TV.

[Doom_Dude]

Who said that Anamolous Materials can't blow up? Besides I want them to BLOW UP! It doesn't matter if they're full of play-dough residue, I want them to BLOW UP!

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[Death Squad Member 666]

Of course, petrolium based solvents isn't exactly the official explanation...
Just that that must be the answer to explain it ! Just trying to help.
Hey, Nuclear sludge doesn't always have to blow up. Bah, who cares, if you want to start picking holes in DOOM, I'm sure we can find bigger flaws than the barrels !!



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Now they learn why they are afraid of the Dark. Now they learn why they Fear the Night.

[Monkey]

DooM II Manual
Exploding Barrels: Scattered around the base are drums containing fuel, toxic waste, or some other volatile substace. If your shot hit one of these barrels, it's kablooey time! It might take several bullets to set offa barrel, but a single blast of any of the other weapons usually does the trick.

I can understand fuel exploding, but
toxic waste and other volatile?

Toxic waste is non-flamable.

What is other volatile anyways?


Sheesh, I wish I had written the manual to clear some things up http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Touch me... how can this be.

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[Ferrari]

Toxic waste? Then if you would get injured from the waste, wouldn't your health detoriate through time because it's toxic?

BTW, it's a cheap explosion. A barrel of fuel would be enough to light a room when ignited. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[REoL]

Uhh. They're mixed together?
It was their idea of school cafeteria food? http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif
http://www.webshots.com/photos/imgs3/81/16781-mid.jpg

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REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[Zack]

The toxic waste in RoboCop is non-flammable.

But toxic waste has no constant mixture of chemicals. One barrel may be explosive, the other may not. Thus, we get barrels already set on fire that constantly block your path (ex: map23). Of course, since there are no lids on the barrels, the best explanation to why they would explode is because you shot and penetrated a hole in the side of one, causing enough heat to activate a chemical change.

I have a 90% in Chemistry right now, but I don't know anything about anything. I just made all that up http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

Seriously though, if cars can explode simply after flipping over or being shot, why can't a barrel of fuel?

Perhaps in the new Doom you can pick up barrels, shake them up and throw them at imps like a grenade! http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

--Zack

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"You wanna see something REALLY scary?"

[darknation]

WHat is within the barrels?

Imp poo. Very flamable

[Ferrari]

Imp poo? Then I wouldn't come close to it! I'll just rather not blowing it up or all of the **** comes flying onto me!

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[Looney2ner]

LOL ha ha ha ha ha I just pictured that in my mind ha ha ha ha Someone needs to put that in a level and have blobs of $#it on the screen! http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Grooooooosum!

[REoL]

If every id game has grenades (of some form) since Quake, "DooM III" should have them, too. Best if it's the Imp Poo. Talk about horrible smelling dung....


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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[darknation]

There is a chance my TC may feature a **** launcher. It will replace the plasma gun. I may be able to use legacy's wall splats to simulate **** dripping from the walls as you hose the place with the sheetcannon.

Oh yes, lep doom will rock http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Ferrari]

http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
And that will hurt enemies how?

If that actually happens, I think I'll try to walk thru the middle of the hallways....no more strafing along the walls.

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If you see something on the road as flat as a pancake, chances are, it's dead

[REoL]

Will the dung be from piles on the ground, in the toilet, or will it be Miracle Gro(tm) brand Imp Fertilizer?
Mix with water, and have a blast! (Rimshot.) http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif


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REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[Ferrari]

I think all he did was nail grocery bags under the imps and collect all the fresh dung. Thats why they're all so fresh. *pew*

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[Looney2ner]

No no no.... you gota have a hose going to the players ass..... when he brings up the weapon, you hear a gunt, then when you fire it, it makes this really disgusting slurlping noise and starts shooting $hit every where..... You can't kill an Imp with Imp dung, it's not toxic to them http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Looney2ner]

Sorry Double post http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Looney2ner (edited 10-17-2000).]

[This message has been edited by Looney2ner (edited 10-17-2000).]

[Doom_Dude]

Haha...a toxic poo rifle! Will there be clouds of flys like in Quake II?

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[Zack]

That's not fair. If human poo is toxic to humans, why isn't imp poo toxic to imps? (Looney2nr's poo is toxic to everything.)

Hehe, I'd like to see an imp taking a crab in a waste barrel in the new Doom as I walk in the door. And then he notices me and slips into the barrel, eaten away by the toxic goo with a quick flame http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Ferrari]

Wouldn't the vacuum sucking off the imp's ass for his dung be painful, I'm sure his intestines will be sucked out too, then eventually if you have your finger stuck in the trigger, you'll end up shooting all his guts and end up with a imp sketelon lying on the floor.

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If you see something on the road as flat as a pancake, chances are, it's dead

[Monkey]

Holy Jeezus you guys are sick.

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Touch me... how can this be.

Belive me... the sun always shines... on TV.

[REoL]

http://daily.webshots.com/content/dailyphoto/internal_data/dAtA19990818/3926-small.jpg
Aren't we all sick?

Oh, you didn't mean THAT kind of sick. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[Looney2ner]

LOL http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif My nose is still cold and wet!

[Ferrari]

Point a hair dryer at it and you'll be allright. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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If you see something on the road as flat as a pancake, chances are, it's dead

[REoL]

"I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead!"

If you have a dumb boss, you caould probably get away with it. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[darknation]

I mention the turdgun and all off a sudden everyone is interested in mt TC...

This says a lot about everyone's maturity.

Wait a minute, I'm the one who made it... which makes me even more immature... bugger.

[Don Incognito]

What's wrong with being immature?
I think it's sweet!

[Boingo the Clown]

I can't say what make the barrels go "BOOM", but it is explosives that make the land mines in DeiM make their lovely "KA-BAM!"

http://www.geocities.com/boingo_the_clown/DeiM/Screen_Shots/ccs03.gif

http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[REoL]

Egads! A cheap plug! DAMMIT!!!

Meanwhile, check out all the latest REoL news at the REoL TOUGH DeatH Site!

http://members.aol.com/georgef551/REoL_TOUGH.html

http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[Boingo the Clown]

Hmpf!

Oh yeah?!?

Okay REoL! I shall make it an even more shameless plug!

http://www.geocities.com/boingo_the_clown/DeiM/Shared_Graphics/DeiMLogo.gif

Click here to visit the DeiM page! (http://www.geocities.com/boingo_the_clown/DeiM/DeiM.html)

How do you like them apples?

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[This message has been edited by Boingo the Clown (edited 10-21-2000).]

[darknation]

Zack, I want to encoperate the imp-having a shite-on-the-barrel-then-it-blowing-up thing into my TC, DOOM LEPROSY.

May I?

[Boingo the Clown]

If the barrels are full of nukage and they explode, how come floors (and ceilings) with the nukage texture on them don't explode?

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[Boingo the Clown]

I suppose it could be simulated by making an exploder with DEHackEd, and packing nukage areas with exploders. A few good pistol shots and BOOM!!!

[Firing Aimlessly]

I have an idea.

Maybe we're being completely misled by thinking that it's the STUFF INSIDE the barrels that combusts... after all, the large pools of that stuff do nothing when you shoot them... it's the BARRELS!

The material for the barrels look just like (pick one):

Faded construction paper (highly flammable under the right conditions)

Dried, extremely fibrous, reconstituted poop

Ground bones stuck back together with glue (they burn... kinda...)

Alcohol crystallised under absolute-zero conditions (which explains the extremely violent explosion when the condensed gas around the material suddenly expands due to the energy being released by the combusting barrel)

I think I'm babbling again...

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You're all zombie thigh-fat people, brought into animation by some evil force of forceful evil!!!

[REoL]

Maybe there's enough volitile solvents (ratio-wise) in the barrels. The pools in maps are kinda' large.
I can still see it done with pools, though, with a DeHackEd patch, or something.


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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[REoL]

I'd 1-up that, Boingo, but this forum doesn't display Flash. http://www.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[Boingo the Clown]

I don't want to be flashed. Thank you for the offer anyway.

[Ferrari]

The DooM engine is really limited, if a huge pool of nukage were to explode, I think the engine may overload and crash. But it would still be cool.

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If you see something on the road as flat as a pancake, chances are, it's dead

[Boingo the Clown]

I remember playing a demo of Dark forces II. In it large pools of rocket fuel would explode in flames if you shot them. It would be interesting to have exploding pools in Legacy. There wouldn't be many applications for this, but it would still be a fun feature to have.

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[Firing Aimlessly]

Although in some levels (e.g., E1M1 and E1M3) the amount of green goop would mean that pretty much the entire level should blow up if you shot it... which would be pretty cool in itself I guess...

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You're all zombie thigh-fat people, brought into animation by some evil force of forceful evil!!!

[Ferrari]

Thats for sure!

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If you see something on the road as flat as a pancake, chances are, it's dead

[REoL]

Just make sure you're near the exit (switch) before you blow the ponds up.


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King REoL

REoL TOUGH: 6 Years, and going....

[Da Man]

I love that Imp taking a shit in a barrel then jumping into only to be eaten away at it's own shit. And the toxic filled levels blowing up idea also kicks ass.

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Da Man is going to tell you a little story about pie.
Its tough to be the man.
Going over to John Carmack's old fun house, taking a chance, hoping someone's home.

[REoL]

They shovel it into trucks and send it to school cafeterias. http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

It's been 9 years since I graduated, but still, I remember the "quality", and "food".


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King REoL

The John Smith Army
The Long Hair Army

REoL TOUGH: Has it been 7 YEARS already?! Jesus Christ....
http://members.aol.com/georgef551/REoL_TOUGH.html

[Davidoom]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">They shovel it into trucks and send it to school cafeterias. </font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yep I certainly found that out....I even found turd in there once http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Da Man]

So thats how Imps make their livings, selling shit. Damn we pay tax dollars to go to who knows where and at the same time they give Imps a way to survive in our horrible world. Man if the UAC found out about that they shut down every school in the WORLD.

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Da Man is going to tell you a little story about pie.
Its tough to be the man.
Going over to John Carmack's old fun house, taking a chance, hoping someone's home.

[Davidoom]

No school.....I can't live with that...Imps are evil....real evil.

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