DOOMWORLD + NEWDOOM = FRIENDS! (?)

[Tormentor667]

Well, I read now several postings about flaming, not posting news on the main sites, bad/better site and much more of this $hit! Well, I think, why can't we stop that? And why can't some of the Doomworld guys stop to flame about "five year old" Newdoomers and why can't Newdoomers stop to write **** in the Doomworld Forums???
As I know, Doom is here to have fun! But for a majority (it seems really to be a majority) it is a reason to begin flaming! Doomworld is a great site and they always show my news (so I really don't understand, if some NewDoomers say, they don't)! And NewDoom surely is also a great site! Not to mention DoomHQ! But why is there a fight between NewDoomers and Doomworlders??

A lot of Doomworlders say, that the DW's hosted sites are SO qualitativ and SO cool! well, but when I take a look at DW's hosted sites, I can mostly see outdated sites from 1999! Surely quality is an important thing, but what do you want with quality, if your TC never sees another Doomer???

Surely some sites of NEWDOOM have such a "Quality Problem" but they are Newbies! I was surely also a newbie! Everyone was a Newbie! Also every Doomworlder!
As I build my first Doom Level, it was very bad! It looked to easy, too undetailed! Not be able to compare with today's standards! But what is with all the other very known DOOMERS? They have also a beginning! Kurt Kessler, Ola Björling, Nick Baker, Tarin, etc.! All of these Doomers begun! And I'm sure, their first levels didn't look very quality! And today, everybody has played at last one level from each author! Also my Sill became better! So, all the NewDoom's hosted sites and wads, which have lack of quality, they will soon be better and everyone (really everyone) will play them! They need only some time!

And the rest of this stupid war; let us make a DOOMWORLD & NEWDOOM as friends site! And everyone, who thinks, we could do that, should join http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[darknation]

Personally, I think it's a personality clash... doomworld and newdoom have different objectives.

[NiGHTMARE]

Actually my first ever released .wad is still quite good IMHO. Well, not that good, it's very cramped in a few places,

ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/doom2/levels/doom2/deathmatch/p-r/rlmspain.zip

My advice to a new level designer would be to look at existing levels people have done that you think are good, and then compare them to your level and see how your level shapes up.

I've gotten really good at telling when my own levels suck http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by NiGHTMARE (edited 12-30-2000).]

[Stphrz]

http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/chris_lutz/Writing/Babel.htm

Go read.

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I'm an atheist. No, really, I am. Swear to God.

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BOO!

[Orangeguy]

You forgot Doomgalaxy {cool site} www.doomgalaxy.com (http://www.doomgalaxy.com)

[REoL]

Yes, ND may have newbies, and so does DW. DW has quality teams, and so does ND.
My theory is, people with "crappy" pages are taking the time to actually make a good PRODUCT, rather than spending countless hours on a ritzy HTML coded Flash nightmare (I opened myself up here). Some people like to put the quality in their projects, not their pages. I do both. http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Personality clashes? There are, and a few of us have been treated like dog sh!t by DW staff, but that's just a few of us. Most DW and ND users are great people, with no problems in co-existing, but there's a few that just can't let the horrible nightmares and abuse go unnoticed. I am more vocal (have the ba11s) to say it. http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif

DW was not REoL TOUGH's first hell, Software Creations BBS was. After they did their dirty work, I spread all that all over the 'net, and users dropped their subscriptions, and they shut down. That's it on that issue.

Anyhoo, yes, some of us have problems with DW, and I'm sure DW users have problems with ND, but can we all kiss and make up? Some are, but some aren't. (I'm not the one who's not.)


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[orion]

heh, I have balls too, like a long time ago I used to post stuff on the DW forum, until the day ling pissed me off with him saying that he doesn't recommend csDooM. I though to myself "who the hell does he think he is?" Then I cursed him off and left, never posted anything there again. I know he answered me, but I never had a chance to see what he wrote since my post was deleted. http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smilies/cwm10.gif I'm happy I left, never liked the people there anyway.

[Stphrz]

Actually Ling let the post stand. Mordeth deleted it. Ling's response in a nutshell was, "it's my page, I can say what I want."

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I'm an atheist. No, really, I am. Swear to God.

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BOO!

[darknation]

I really need to make myself a new site...

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[orion]

lol, after all this time I find out what he said in the least likely place.

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[Phoebus]

Go for it DN! http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smilies/cwm4.gif

[darknation]

Oh no wmull... you have not seen my previous websites... http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Just because I am bored and I mentioed it today already, here's a sneak peek...

IF EASILY OFFENDED DO NOT READ

I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THIS ONE

Dire Film Number One: Alien Resurrection.

Oh deary deary me. The (hopefully) final instalment of the Alien Quartet is one seriously bad film.

Problems begin when you get your first glance at our heroine Ripley, aka Sigourney Weaver. She has not aged gracefully. Rather, her entire face has collapsed into a saggy wrinkled mess. She spends her first two minutes in the film rolling around naked in a semi-transparent bag. This sets the tone for the rest of the movie.

Now enter our other heroes. The captain. His voice is so husky you could strap a sled to it and send some Eskimos off to look for their next meal. I can’t remember his name, and his role is so minor (eg, come on, get killed) that he is not worth dwelling over much longer.

Next up: a guy in a wheel chair. Yes, a wheel chair. Aliens just went politically correct. ********************CENSORED BECAUSE THIS BIT WAS REALLY RUDE AND I REGRET WRITING IT********************

Following the Wheels of Steel is a monkey. No wait, on closer inspection, the gorilla turns out to be human. Just. Jon Perlman plays Johner. His first words of the film are “Ooh ooh ooh aah ahh ahh!” as he dangles from the banister and thus causes the initial simian confusion. His job is to be hard and look uglier than Sigourney, something that he manages amicably.

In an attempt to get the sad middle-aged wankers into the cinema, Winona Ryder plays the most idiotic android you have ever seen. A gameboy could beat her at chess. When they were making her, a mechanic must of accidentally lost his cheese sandwich in her brain cavity.

Add to this list of non-entities is a Military General who’s body hair problem is so severe that he was declared a fire hazard on the set, a alien chestburster-dude who bears a spooky resemblance to Ben Elton and a Scientist and aliens that look like the contents of a stool bucket.

Now I will move onto the plot. There is an interesting theory behind this one. Ross Whedon (who shall never work in Hollywood again) was walking home and he heard the following.

“If you were to put a million monkeys in a room with a million typewriters and an infinite amount of paper and ink and then get the aforementioned monkeys to hit the keys at random, eventually them monkeys would produce, by sheer chance, an entire Shakespeare play.”

Now Ross had a problem. His producers wanted a script by lunchtime tomorrow, and the sad fact was that Ross had been to busy sitting on his couch, watching porn and masturbating his little brains out. This meant two things:

#1) He had no script for the big movie people
#2) He had gotten spunk into his VCR and blown up his TV.

So, rather than admitting to his bosses that he had no script, he got Jon Pearlman (you know, the ape from the film), sat him in a room with a typewriter, lots of ink and a fair amount of paper, and promptly locked him in.

An hour before his meeting, Ross unlocked to door to find that Jon had eaten the typewriter. Around the big monkey lay hundreds of sheets of paper with utter gibberish scrawled across them. Ross collected the ones that did not have urine stains on them, stapled them together and wrote “Alien Resurrection” on the front. He went to his meeting, got paid millions of dollars and masturbated happily everafter.

Now, admittedly this theory has holes in it. But it goes a long way to explaining just how **** Alien Resurrection turned out.

Here a synopsis of Alien Resurrection. I write it down here, so you will not be tempted to go out and buy it just so you can see what I am going on about.

Ripley died at the end of Alien3. This was a good thing. This meant that, as mediocre as Alien 3 was, we would not be subjected to another substandard sequel.

But, 20th Century Fox, being the collection of dickheaded ******* that they are, decided that yet more cash could be squeezed from the paying public. So, someone came up with a brilliant idea: “Hey, how about we clone Ripley for no good reason at all so she can make us a bit more cash!” And, because moviemakers can spot a shite idea from a million miles away, they said “What a **** poor idea! Here, take 22 million and see if you can’t go spend it somewhere.”

So, Ripley is cloned (From what? Who knows? Who cares! MAKE MONEY!!!) and is crossbred with an alien to make a Ripley-Alien hybrid. So the bugs now have wrinkles, PMT and reproductive organs. Ripley now had acid for blood, Alien ESP and a straightjacket.

In comes a band of Space Pirates (now THAT sounds really catchy…), the bugs break free and Monkeyman shoots a guard with a thermos flask. The stupid Captain gets killed for being thick and everyone goes for a swim. Someone else gets eaten., Ripley gets facehugged (but gets it off because her breath stinks and the poor wee facehugger dies from air-poisoning). The honorary black man gets munched as they climb a ladder, the disabled guy jumps about like a little acrobat and Ryder gets shot. It turns out that she is an android.

At this point, 98% of the audience has left the cinema to demand their money back.

Anyway, the survivors are running along, the floor opens up, Ripley falls down and gets her leg humped by a randy Alien. Then she suddenly appears in the Queens chamber, it turns out the Queen is pregnant and she gives birth to a gigantic, steaming yellowing turd. The Queen calls it Charles. Charles kills the Queen, molests Rippers for a wee while with its tongue. Ripley escapes while Charlie chows down on someone’s head.

The heroes (minus Ripley) make it back to the ship. A guy shoots a few people, then he get killed by a projectile chestburster that looks like a giant penis with teeth (perhaps an interesting piece of merchandising for the ladies here… “THE *****BURSTER VIBRATING DILDO – Acts as both ****oral stimulus and as an offensive weapon should your boyfriend come anyplace near you).

Meanwhile, Ripley is scooting along on her Zimmer back towards the ship in an effort to escape Charlie. She makes it, they take off and everyone goes “Well, we are safe now!”

Surprise surprise, Charles is sitting in the back of the ship, eating people. I never saw that one coming.

Anyway, basically it gets sooked out of a window and flushed like the turd it is. Disabled Bloke and Monkey Bloke pilot the ship back to earth. Ripley says some sentimental shite, the big military ship collides with Africa and solves third world hunger for good. Everyone goes home. The End.

Speaking of which, I have run out of things to say about this movie, other than it sucks more ass than Mrs Sharp, the Phantom Bum Rimmer of Blairgowire High School.

The End.




[This message has been edited by darknation (edited 12-30-2000).]

[Don Incognito]

Man, I didn't even have to see that movie to know it was bad, but that's me. http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


And about all this DW stuff, I got myself a sig pic deal there, and I'll be posting there too now. Not that Newdoom isn't good enough, I just wanna check this place out.

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Don Incognito

[This message has been edited by Don Incognito (edited 12-30-2000).]

[darknation]

Yeah, well, get this, I PAID FOR IT! http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smilies/cwm43.gif

[Phoebus]

Indeed, FOX is well-known for squandering its legacy movie titles; Aliens and especially Predator are two prime examples...

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Gaming is a state of mind.
If you're mindless, please take mine.

[Monkey]

Hey, DN, I am available If you want a good design for a site... http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smilies/cwm42.gif

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[darknation]

I could not take advantage of you like that monkey...
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[REoL]

<font face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">Actually Ling let the post stand. Mordeth deleted it. Ling's response in a nutshell was, "it's my page, I can say what I want."</font>
(shudder)
Why do I have a feeling Ling will be put in a hospital someday?

He's gotta' grow up.
We have people like that at work, and let's say, they are on very thin ice, if some haven't been fired already (and most of them have been).



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[REoL]

Always remember, if you have a few hundred bucks to put down, get Flash and make whatever you want for a layout without knowing any HTML, well, maybe some for the buttons. http://forums.newdoom.com/ubb/smile.gif


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