after thinking about Doom III for a while I finally came up with a opinion...

[Kaiser]

first off, I think its going to be disappointing to the Doom/Doom II fans. ID is acting like they are ashamed of Doom and Doom II and doesn't want anything to do with it. Doom III is almost a completly different game, and none of it has to do with Doom, except that some of the enemies will be familiar. People today should regonize doom and Doom II and know the game, but now it seems ID is just hiding the fact that Doom and Doom II exist.

Doom III sounds a lot like Quake II, objectives and missions are BORING as hell. Like I said, ID should of gave it a different name. To me, Doom means non stop action.

But other for the graphics and the game itself, I am still excited for its release, however I am kind of pissed off that the game has nothing to do with the previous Doom games, and seems like ID is trying to push the fact that Doom and Doom II doesn't exist.

I am begining to wonder ID thinks they are too good for the old wolfenstien, Doom, and Keen games....

there's my 2 cents....

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[HyperFlash]

Yeah. It's gonna be like a prequel to the game. But we'll just have to see.

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[Sphagne]

First of all, how do you think that they could fill the screen with lots of (over 1M poligon made) monsters to shoot at?

so they needed to have another aproach, and that was suspence to make fearsome scenes like the past dooms but without that many monsters.

then as in doom2 the final monster was slain, so they decided to remake that theme in a new fashion, the result was doom3 as it is!

[Deathgiver]

If id thought they were to good for Wolf, Doom and Keen they would be trying to make a game with no connection to them at all.

I understand what id's stratagy is about.....

Making one HI quality game at a time and letting trusted groups Do another title.

[Rellik_jmd]

Well, lets get the low poly models working with Legacy and make our own game to release at the same time as DOOM3!

Wouldn't that be funny, the community releases a free game that's funny than id's uber game.

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[Aliotroph?]

We should do a DooM/DooM II mod for DooM III. We could stil use low poly models if we wanted that many monsters. Even the old DooM architecture with that lighting engine and some bump maps would kick ass.

I'm worried this game is going to feel really claustriphobic and repetitive like the first Quake. It also looks like it's going to be pretty linear (like Half-Life), and that will piss me off.

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[Tai*WarGreymon]

Hmm..-_- Doom III not being the same as Doom/Ultimate Doom/Final Doom/ Doom 2 kinda scares me. Telling from the pictures in the other topic, this game is going to be scary has heck, and then again..........this game was not made for kids (I'm 12, I think i'll be to young to play doom 3) http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm45.gif

[MR_ROCKET]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/758337.asp?cp1=1

[fiend]

actually, i was under the impression that doom III was just a retelling of ultimate doom, with a MUCH lower twitch-ratio. that, and it all takes place on mars (nothing to do w/ phobos or deimos). i dunno. the only thing that pisses me off is that it's going to be SO hardware-intensive-- i.e. you'll pretty much HAVE to have a geforce 4 ti or higher to get anything close to what they've shown in the movie. at least maybe by the time it comes out, the ge4 will be affordable (and still a good step up from my ge2 mx)...

[Aliotroph?]

DooM was hardware intensive when it came out. They said you could play it on a 386 but I remember it feeling jerky on a 486DX 50MHz. It only really felt right on a Pentium. Id's games often do things like that. Quake II was one of the first games where you really needed a 3D card for it to look good.

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[MR_ROCKET]

exactly , this is that generation in a nut shell all over again , DOOM III..

just think of your system now as that 386..

hmm , we'v got a "NEW DOOM" ,yet people are crying.. why ? geeez

i think its gonna be bad ass !, i wish the ULT-DOOM and DOOMII classics had this graphic and sound quality but it would have been impossible because there wouldn't have been any system that could run it..

on the other hand if ID was to make a doom 3 with the same engine as the first then they would have doomlegacy or jdoom or something..
then what , everyone would still have something to cry about saying stuff like man the source ports look as good as the doom3 that id just came out with,,
is anyone even happy any more ?
im not sure if this is that same group of people i knew back when i played doom before there was ever a source port..
i think you all have been spoiled..?

remember this is ID software making the game , not some other company..

[Doom_Dude]

We won't really know what DooM III will be like until it's done and we have it in our hands, so why all the crying and huffyness? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[Nickster]

Aw for crying out loud, it hasnt even been released yet and you keep crying of this! Shesh!
And I also think that they are making in the same spirit as the orignial Doom, as a "scary" action game.
Now cmon, the first time you played Doom... didnt you wet you're pants? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif

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Boring as hell? So you want Doom3 to have no story at all? Now cmon, how can a story be WORSE?

[MR_ROCKET]

Doom_Dude , Nickster , i cant agree with you more...

[Doom_Dude]

Well even after seeing all the stuff they've shown us its damned near impossible to say how good or bad this DooM III will be. I mean I checked out all the MorrowinD stuff before the game came out and until I played it......none of that stuff made me realise how cool the game really is. I do think DooM III is going to be a sweet game even though I do have some mixed feeling about it all.

Kaiser dude don't you think that DooM III will still be connected to the other DooM games in the same way as the new Star Wars is connected to the olde? It just takes place during an earlier time setting is all or did I miss somewhat? I do confess that I've not read everything and am keeping away from the Carmack interviews and stuff. I really don't want to see / read / watch too much before getting the game. I want it to be fresh and new and I hate seeing all this stuff outside the damned game.

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[Deathgiver]

Doom_Dude, of what I understand it's going to be more of a reinvention of Doom than a true sequal. but that doesn't bother me a bit. My take on it is give it a chance. If people treated the classic Doom this way we proly wouldn't even be here on this forum right here right now.

So I respectfully ask the Complainers this
"Please don't dis a game you haven't tried yet? You may find out that it is a good game." -------END RANT-------

[Kaiser]

Hope this doesn't get locked. I really don't want to start any rants....


but I am still excited about Doom III.

[Aliotroph?]

I was playing the Alien vs. Predator 2 demo again earlier and I hope they do another sequel with the DooM III engine. That would kick so much ass! Actually, DooM III looks like it will feel a lot like that game - damn sweet! I hope both games are a little less linear in gameplay than that demo though. They should try makind these shooters more freeform like some 3D rpg's or GTA3 or something.

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[Doom_Dude]

I don't see why anybody would lock this topic. Nobodys caused it to turn ugly...not yet anyhow. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Non linear rules! I think it's going to be linear like Half-Life. Yet linear has never botheed me....not like Aliotroph? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[MR_ROCKET]

DOOM III WILL ROCK ! thats all there is to it..
id software is making it for heavens sake ! and its an engine that spits out real time animation..

you cant base it off a movie or screenshots ,(hands on is the only way..)

its almost like saying , i dont like pizza..
why not ?
well the picture of it didnt look as i expected..
well have you ever had it ?
no..
WTF ?

until i play it , iv only got positive things to say.. - i mean i have been playing doom for like forever and this is the new doom forum you know..

so did you like it ?
yea it was grate !
then why the hell did you say you didnt like it before ?
i dont know..
dumb ass..
doh , lol
lol !

[Deathgiver]

That was my point exactly, MR_ROCKET you can't judge a game on a screenshot or even a movie. new spin on a old saying. For me the visuals alone are worth the price of admission. (Game, new comp)