Doom 3 has been officially annoucned [Archive]

X-DOOM

May 3rd, 2002, 11:00 AM

Oh yeah !!!! so this will be the powerful killer game of the history !!!!!!

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Doom_Dude

May 3rd, 2002, 03:55 PM

I can't wait to see a bit more news about DooM III. It seems like forever since we heard anything at all. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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Ninja

May 3rd, 2002, 04:04 PM

I'd like to be optimistic, but this game's gonna suck. At best, it will be a good FPS, but not Doom. It will be like a Quake game with better graphics. Unless they put in the super fast walk and key card missions, but others might not like this. So, it'll suck. Can't they just leave it alone and let Doom live on as a great game and not a way to try to get more money. Just like how we think of TNT...

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Planky

May 3rd, 2002, 04:55 PM

In the words of Doom_Dude:

Oh HUSH!

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Kaiser

May 3rd, 2002, 05:20 PM

I hope they don't turn it into another gay mulitplayer game like Quake 3. that game SUCKED!

Zack

May 3rd, 2002, 08:08 PM

Agh. Kaiser. Ninja. You both are pissing me off, and it's not because I like Doom. But I don't think Kaiser's doing it intentionally.

If you have bothered to pay any attention to anything the guys at id have been saying through interviews in the past year and a half, you wouldn't be assuming what you are saying. The engine may be revolutionary, but they have been spending at least a year developing the actual storyline and game, balancing everything perfectly, creating a truly Doomy atmosphere and giving the game more than id games have ever had in the past decade. It's no longer just quantity, it's quantity AND quality. Like Max Payne. They have literally been treating the story for the game like a movie script.

So shut the hell up and stop being so goddamn ignorant. It makes you look like an idiot. Ninja, your comments are so fucking closed minded. If you think Doom is going to suck, why the hell are you even here?

The only exciting thing about the aforementioned article is the fact that it's finally confirmed two important things: they are demonstrating DOOM III at E3, and DOOM III is now the official title. That is not to say that "Names for New Doom?" is no longer--nobody said anything about a sub title http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Doom_Dude

May 3rd, 2002, 09:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>In the words of Doom_Dude:
Oh HUSH!<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heehee, got that from my Southern gal. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

HUSH YA'll!

Hahahahaahaha, gotta go to bed. Don't be gettin' into any flame wars kinda crap while I'm gone or I'm gonna Southern Fry your asses and make ya wear Swamp moss bikini's with them little red biting bugs that lives in the swamp moss.

I do agree with Zack. DOOM III IS GONNA BE AWESOME.

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Kaiser

May 3rd, 2002, 09:25 PM

Zack you're right, and I am not complaining about Doom III.

I just hope they don't fuck it up like they did with Quake 3....

Monkey

May 4th, 2002, 12:02 AM

After all that debate over the name almost two years ago, id decides to call it DooM III http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm14.gif

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Doom_Dude

May 4th, 2002, 05:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>After all that debate over the name almost two years ago, id decides to call it DooM III<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO! Kinda funny that is. We spent all that time trying to think of a title and it turns out to be DooM III. Bahahahahahahaa!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Zack you're right, and I am not complaining about Doom III.
I just hope they don't fuck it up like they did with Quake 3....<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

I highly doubt they'll pull that again. I'm still peeved that Q III wasn't developed with a good SP game, which was tossed in only because UT came along with a Single Playing DM mode.

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Phoebus

May 4th, 2002, 06:07 AM

We can probably blame Activision for the lame name, as they're in charge of marketing, and I know from having worked there, how that has worked in the past... i.e., just slap a license on it and push it out the door.

Doom III as a name is not that bad, although it conjures up absolutely nothing in the imagination reflecting the game itself, but it's still the New Doom to me... and so will Doom IV http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Ninja

May 4th, 2002, 08:45 AM

Phoebus

May 4th, 2002, 08:53 AM

Ninja, if that's what you want in a game, go play Serious Sam http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

Unlike Quake II & III, et al, Doom III is going to have lots of atmosphere, and hopefully it will give us that immersive feeling of fear, once again.

I'm going to move this thread to the appropriate section.

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Doom_Dude

May 4th, 2002, 09:21 AM

I just reinstalled all my Quake II stuff and just watched the opening movie thinghy for Quake II. I hope DooM III has something similar to help set the initial mood of the game. That alone is enough to make me excited for the game. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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Ninja

May 4th, 2002, 09:25 AM

I hope it doesn't give you too much character knowledge. Like, I don't want he marine to have a name or anything, I want to be the marine.

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Zack

May 4th, 2002, 09:50 AM

Yeah, hopefully the Doom guy will still be just the Doom guy, without affecting the story. Giving the main character his own name and personality is RPG stuff, and I am definitely not a roleplayer.

...Plus, if he had a name, I couldn't call him Doom Guy in POTI (http://gamix.org/poti) anymore. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Quake II's opening theme was merely "okay." I personally feel that it wasn't as great as it could have been, with the corny Star Wars-esque opening scene with the ship, and especially the facts that everything is blurry outside of software mode, and the speech is very hard to pick up over music and background sfx. Return to Castle Wolfenstein's opening wasn't very good either. Terrible voice acting and all. It seemed... old.

I do want another Half-Life with DOOM III. After beating Half-Life I was having trouble deciding whether I liked it better than Ultimate Doom. The story really made it a whole lot better! But if Doom can have what Half-Life had, PLUS a very scary atmosphere, then it's the best game in the world! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

That also includes Doom having no video cutscenes or opening scenes. I like Half-Life's method of incorporating you into -everything-.

Ninja

May 4th, 2002, 09:52 AM

I agree, as cool as FMV's are, I dont want them, at least not featuring the main character. Maybe seeing a giant ass boss, but not the marine.

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Zack

May 4th, 2002, 09:58 AM

Heh! Wait till you see Millenium's final boss. That is, provided everything is ready and it is released on time or at all.

The deadline approaches...

Ninja

May 4th, 2002, 10:09 AM

Sounds cool, can't wait to try it.

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Zack

May 4th, 2002, 08:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>Like, I don't want he marine to have a name or anything, I want to be the marine.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Update on the Doom Guy's name jobby. I was just watching a video interview with John Carmack by Gamespot that took place at QuakeCon 2001. I didn't get to watch it when it was first distributed but now I can. http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/media/0,11100,469881,00.html

Well, during the first part of the interview, Carmack actually refers to the main character as the "Doom Guy." So this means that, as of August last year, he's still just the Doom Guy! And it's most likely that he hasn't been given a name or personal information since then, besides "you're in the army." http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

Yay!

Ninja

May 5th, 2002, 12:00 PM

I really don't want it to have a name. Please dont give him a name. Save that for games like Metal Gear Solid...

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Rellik_jmd

May 5th, 2002, 09:49 PM

Hmmm, odd. When I was there they weren't calling it DOOM 3, but something else. Makes me wonder what else has changed.

Man, you guys are gonna fuckin DIE when you see the characters. Hell, to a degree even the environment is practically a character. And to think they've been working on it for a year and half since then. Woulda been nice to see all the characters in the game and not just the clay models but it was still cool. A really interesting process to go from sketch to game model too.

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Zack

May 6th, 2002, 03:40 AM

Well, Rellik, I guess since they're not calling it whatever they used to, you can tell us what it was going to be.

On the other hand, since Todd is sort of the only guy who's referred to it as Doom III, maybe it's just easier for him to call it that before they actually reveal what the game is called.

Rellik_jmd

May 6th, 2002, 07:57 AM

I could tell you but then I could also get sued for millions of dollars. Hmmmm, let me think about that... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif Don't worry you'll (and maybe me too) find out what they call it soon enough.

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Phoebus

May 6th, 2002, 02:12 PM

Not to sound like a know-it-all wanna-be, but if Activision announced the game officially as DOOM III(tm), then that's more than likely what it will be called.
It would only be counterproductive to waste any available PR value. It's part of Activision's job to dot and cross all respective i's and t's before they finally weighed in with their official announcement.
Like I said, I'm sure Activision had a lot to do with the final decision for the name, as that final decision falls under Marketing. You may think, well id Software can tell Marketing to go straight to hell, but if you knew how much work goes into publishing a title, you'd realize id needs Activision as much as the reverse.
I was working at Activision when Quake II was being developed and released, and even got to spend a week downstairs in QA helping game test it. I've seen the relationship between Activision and id from the inside.
And who knows, the reason why it took so long for the announcement for who was actually publishing it to be made, could have had as much to do with agreeing on the title, as anything else.
Like Zack said, maybe they'll still think of a cool subtitle?......

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Zack

May 6th, 2002, 04:07 PM

Cross your i's? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm34.gif

Phoebus

May 6th, 2002, 06:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>dot and cross all respective i's and t's<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>The keyword, 'respective,' means to put the proper object and verb together in logical order in your head. Which, of course, simply speaking translates to dot your i's and cross your t's.

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Daeman

May 7th, 2002, 05:38 AM

Oh, just one question: what is the Doom[3]Guy running and walking speeds? How faast gameplay (especially DEATHMATCH) will run? Who knows? Doom brings DM to us, there was DYNAMIC. Then id released Quake. It was fast too, but atmosphere and weapons were chaged (bad). Then QuakeII were released - they slowed gameplay down, but there are a lot of speedup tricks (huh, about tricks - run with strafing along north-facing wall in Doom2 - you'll feel the *speed* http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif ). Then they released that damned QuakeIII - slow as hell and no dynamic at all... Unfortunately everything is going to slow gameplay (Damned CounterStrike/HalfLife/Quake3 is an example). Hope id will did something good and retured gameplay to speeds at which it must be! Sorry for a lot of mistakes... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/frown.gif

Doom_Dude

May 7th, 2002, 02:41 PM

I'm not even thinking MP at this point. I want the SP game and I know it's gonna make us all sit up and blink in stunned shock at the beauty and visciousness of the Doom III engine.

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Rellik_jmd

May 7th, 2002, 10:04 PM

Well if you think Q3 runs slow on your system, DOOM3 will run about 4 frames per hour. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

yeah, i can hardly wait to see it. I'm gonna mail the guys and see if they remember me enough to send me an autographed copy. Probably not but it's worth a go.

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Kaiser

May 9th, 2002, 09:49 PM

They should release Doom III in separate boxes. One for Single Player and the other box with Multiplayer only.

It better off stay as a SP game. imo

Sphagne

May 10th, 2002, 09:08 PM

I think that they will release it as SP only or with a small support for MP at first.

but MP mods will follow soon! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm1.gif

Weedster

May 12th, 2002, 08:40 AM

Yipee. Can't wait for the fateful day.

Melfice

May 12th, 2002, 01:55 PM

Is all people can do is complain about what DooM 3 shoudln't be? What about what we think is should be? Personally, I'd like to see some pics of the hellish levels DooM has been known for. It seems all we've seen are the more technological levels, the ones that look like they're set in a spaceship or something. But I personally like the hell levels myself, which brings up another important topic: what ever happened to the guy in DooM 64? We all know he stayed there, and I even saw for a while advertised in a add from a game selling company a "Doom 64: Absolution." Now there's something to complain about, the fact that they made QIII instead of that! I loved DooM 64, and was looking forward to a sequel! As a Doom editor, I really wish I could make levels using the Doom 64 graphics.

Doom_Dude

May 12th, 2002, 06:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>It better off stay as a SP game. imo<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fucking right! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm35.gif

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Kaiser

May 12th, 2002, 06:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade>I really wish I could make levels using the Doom 64 graphics.<hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>

you came to the right place....

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Melfice

May 13th, 2002, 08:35 AM

So when are you releasing DSV4? Can I use it as a base to build my own Doom64 style levels? Oh man, this is awesome! When I first started making Wads, this is the way I pictured making them! Sweet! Oh, and one more thing, are the sounds and music the same as that of Doom64?

Kaiser

May 13th, 2002, 02:01 PM

if I added music and sounds from Doom64 I might as well call it a doom64 tc! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

but I don't want DSV 4 to be a Doom64 tc....
but I wanted to use the textures and sprites though.... http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm6.gif

if you want the music and sounds, just go to Doom Depot. (Link is in my site)

and yes you may borrow the resources only when its released.

good thing though, the Legacy version should be completed before July and the Zdoom version (which will be better) will be released shortly after.

but if you need any more questions, feel free to email me. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm12.gif