Gameplay: Violence

[Shiv_Timberwolf]

What we all really want to see is rediculous amounts of violence. Make New Doom worthy of an X! ID, you hear me! We want it banned! Do you know how good that is for publicity! (Ok, so it kinda fucks up your distro network, but hey!)
I'd like to see the gore of RoTT (Damn I loved that flying eyeball gib!) mixed with the location specific pain skins and damage of SoF (Yeah! Blow someone's leg off, or their shoulder, or just their hand! Make them suffer and scream lying on the floor in agony! Muahaha!)
Who says computer games promote violence?
Damn right too!
-Shiv

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"Preserve wildlife: Pickle a squirrel"

[Aliotroph?]

Have cool things like limbs getting ripped off in doors and stuff. Burn people's faces off and have them slowly gutted by zombies.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Shiv_Timberwolf]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could blow thier guys out, literally! Like, see their intestines fall out! Awesome!
Acid burns! *Remembers Cube* Yeah!!!
-Shiv

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"Preserve wildlife: Pickle a squirrel"

[The Undertaker]

Well, I want to be able to walk into Wal-Mart and get my copy of Doom 3, not some adult movie store, which would be the only place that would carry an AO and higher rated game.

[Doom_Dude]

Hey I don't need to see any guts. Just lots of flying bullets and spraying blood.

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[HyperFlash]

It'd be kinda cool if you could rip an enemy's limb off and use it as a weapon if you run out of ammo. I wonder if the enemies will still fight each other.

[Aliotroph?]

Man was I ever in a violent mood last time I replied to this thing! I can almost see the dismemberment happening but I don't think flying intestines is very doable (or marketable). Maybe they'll have customizable violence.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I'd rather see numerous skins for each monster and various death sequences, than guts and brains flying around. Flying blood particles and blood pooling on the floor is what is needed. You don't need to see a guys brain tissue to know he's dead.

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[Aliotroph?]

I wonder how many years it will be before the monsters are rendered with full internal anatomy. Then their deaths could be realistic. You'd only see their brains if you did something really gory to them.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[HyperFlash]

The monsters need some improving on the AI. They just look too stupid just standing there.

[Doom_Dude]

Agreed with the AI needing a tweak or two, yet monsters like those Zombies are supposed to be stoopid. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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[Shiv_Timberwolf]

In respone to Ali,
I have been thinking about that kinda thing for ages now. It would be truly awesome to have, and be able to see a diff death for almost every kill depending on angle of bullets, firepower etc.
-Shiv

[Doom_Dude]

Agreed with the various death sequences. Mixed skins for each monster would be kewl too.

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[HyperFlash]

It's kind of a crazy idea but what if you could find like a turbo frequency gun and if you shoot it at a monster you could brainwash it to be on your side. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm20.gif

[Doom_Dude]

Sounds bizarre and interesting. Either that or you have this tranquilizer style weapon that shoots darts of berserking serum. Shoot an Imp and he goes bananas on anything around him, including other Imps. Nobody near Imp and he claws the shit out of a nuke barrel, blowing himself up.

Just for a laugh what about a gun that fires Imp Snacks? Fire snacks into room and watch the Imps go into a feeding frenzy. Then you just pick em off with a shotgun. LOL. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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Deathcore & Vilecore Ver2.0 is coming!
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[The Undertaker]

You guys descrided exactly the Pyschosis gun from Perfect Dark, a tranquilizer that turns foes into friends and friends (if you have any) into foes. Maybe Doom3 should be called Perfect Doom http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm2.gif .

[HyperFlash]

Perfect dark is just like Golden Eye. But we'll just have to see what kind of stuff Doom 3 will have when it comes out.

[The Undertaker]

PD, GE, made by the same people, what else would you expect.

[HyperFlash]

nothing more.

[Aliotroph?]

Perfect Eye and Golden Dark of course. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm32.gif

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

I said the tranquilizers should make them go crazy, not become friendly! Screw friendly! Berserking Imps on high octane kinda crazy! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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[The Undertaker]

I'm sure by the time Doom3 comes out there won't be any gas left lying around for the imps to drink (The UAC is very fuel insuffiecent).

[Doom_Dude]

What about the Imp Snacks?

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[Kakos Daimos]

I really really hope that the monsters are going to fight each other too like in the old DooM games http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif it is just sooo cool to see them fighting!

[HyperFlash]

What would a doom game be without some monster feudin'?

[The Undertaker]

A Doom game with an organized army of imps.

[HyperFlash]

An organized army of imps... sounds like a wad that i've played before...

[the_Danarchist]

Aloha666? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm4.gif

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All that is gold does not glitter, not all who wander are lost." - J.R.R. Tolkien
-D(A)N

[HyperFlash]

I can't put my finger on it... It might have been aloha but it's been a really long time.

[FlokkieZ]

This is me first post....Y coz me never even knew that there where ppl besides me still playing Doom LOL....anywayz...me scoping out da monsters LOL the classic is shooting in a room and then like leave and all u hear is them rummbling and having huge fights..LOL they should keep that...and another fing....bout da weapons which should not even be here....is the Double barrel = POWER and not change it....the sound and power of it....and me likes da BFG shot against the wall...fing killing everyfing in da room...works hella kewl...in multiplayer..on da first map...and someone plz tell me HOW THE F*** u play online if u even can...???? at the moment me only got da doom2 wot and where me need to go to d/l wot ME would appiecate it http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm7.gif

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They Know Wot Is Wot But They Don't Know Wot Is Wot They Just Strut...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HyperFlash]

You no speak English?

[The Undertaker]

I understood him, after about a minute of translating. 4T L345T 1T W42N'T 1337 5P34I<

[the_Danarchist]

Ummm...what the Hell is that chick screwing? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm13.gif

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-D(A)N

[Doom_Dude]

That guys face. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm44.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

HUH???

Funny cause I've been to South Africa and I've never met anyone who spoke/spelled like that. He must be some kind of punk guy who likes talking like that.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Zack]

Hey Flokk, the best way to get online in Doom these days is to download one of the source ports like Doom Legacy. I prefer ZDoom because it's faster and a lot more stable, though the latest betas are something of a nuisance.

Man, I can't wait until Doom comes out. If it really is going to be rated Ao, I hope it is released on or after August 13th so that I can actually buy it! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

I like that full anatomy thing for realism. In fact, I've thought about that a lot and would like it a whole lot more if the game incorporated a functioning anatomy into each character in the game! True physiology. That would make deaths REALLY flexible, and the bleeding more realistic than ever. Imagine the Revenant's reaction when you smack a bullet through his funny bone...or an Arch Vile when you shoot him in the crotch! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Or a Cyberdemon when you plug is rocket launcher with something! The possibilities are endless!!! A Cacodemon could pop if you plugged it's ass, a sargeant could hop on one leg and get killed by the recoil from his own gun, you could limp at odd angles and monsters could trail their entrails behind them making them easier to find (not to mention the player doing the same thing)!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Zack]

When you pull out the BFG Monsters get all freaked out and shit themselves!! Real shit!!

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[Aliotroph?]

LOL Cyberdemons would have big shit!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Zack]

Doom: Jurrasic Park.

The alien invaders are now no more than science exhibits on a far out island. But then things go wrong. They find a cyberdemon sick. And then the biologist decides to stick her friggin arms into its 2-ton pile of droppings.

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[Doom_Dude]

Why would you need or want that much detail in a character / monster model? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm3.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

To make the game that much more interesting. I'd love to play that. I hate how bodies always hang off cliffs and stuff in games or fall in the same two ways. It looks stupid and detracts from the game. Especially when they end up sticking out of walls and stuff.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[theDOOMguy]

"What we all really want to see is rediculous amounts of violence. Make New Doom worthy of an X! ID, you hear me! We want it banned! Do you know how good that is for publicity! (Ok, so it kinda fucks up your distro network, but hey!)
"

it will probably be banned anyway because of all the whiney babies focusing their sites on DOOM

but yeah, i too would like DOOM 3 to be the first game to get an AO rating on violence alone http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm30.gif

[Aliotroph?]

It would be great to buy a copy of the game and then have it rated like that and banned. Have you any idea how much it would be worth??? It would be so cool, never mind how we'd be sought after and worshipped by a whole bunch of guys who want the game. And we think id is famous now!

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[theDOOMguy]

who cares about the value i just care about how many people will get pissed off

you better believe a game rated AO for violence is gonna piss off the sensitive ones, you couldn't match that anger if you arranged for their heads to be chopped off in a foreign country

[Aliotroph?]

Heh, my mother would be pissed of and there's nothing she could do.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[theDOOMguy]

oh and i left something out, the fact that it's a DOOM game would further amplify that anger as we know what they think of DOOM as it is

[DarkWolf]

The original Night Trap release for Sega CD is worth some money because it was removed from the shelves.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
446F 6F6D

[Aliotroph?]

Why'd they do that?

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[Doom_Dude]

HEY carefull what you wish for, you just might get it.

I don't like the way bodies stick on edges and into walls either and they should fix that but do we need to see bits of brains on walls and entrails n such? I know I don't need to see that. I want something fun and entertaining with lots of action and sure some blood splatters and dif animations and lots of kewl shit.

*Puts on Kevlar vest*

If the game was banned due to Unreal violence then that would be a bad day and that would piss me off.

It's ok if ya'll want to see the enemies guts hanging off your flak jacket but I prefer they (id software) use thier resources to make a better game world instead of making it just more bloody. I installed Soldier of Fortune and that game is bloody enough with the dismemberment shut off. I think its gross to want more blood than that. Thats my opinion. Flame me for having an opinion but it won't make me change my mind. You can have your blood n guts but I want better AI and a more interactive gameworld where you can hack computers and throw a filing cabinet through a window or use a match to set fire to a sofa creating a diversion.....blah, blah, blah, etc....

*end of rant* http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

P.S. This wasn't aimed at anybody in particular so please don't take it personally. I've heard this 'I want more blood' stuff before and I get ranty when I do.

Oh and one last thing. I think more blood n guts is boring actually. I rather see some strippers with big hooters on a Space Station or wherever. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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[theDOOMguy]

lol not to worry, my arguements are always agressive but never in a flaming manner

ah hell with the ge force 3 they can focus on both brain splattering violence AND a better world

soldier of fortune allowed you to adjust the violence level manually because it was THAT gory, so it is likely DOOM 3 will have the same feature if it really gets that violent

and ifyour worried about the banning thing, just do what we're all gonna do, wake up early the morning it is released
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[Aliotroph?]

I somehow don't believe it will be violent enough to get banned. I also hope the gameworld is really fun. Of course realistic gore could be a part of that. You might be able to strangle a guy in his buddy's entrails or something. If they did really god coordinated AI that would be even better in the end though.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[TAKER]

I could see a game with blood and gore but what i mostly want is a game that will scare the hell outta me. =)


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TAKER

[DarkWolf]

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Because of the violence, it was one of those FMV games where most of what you saw were movies (of course for Sega CD those were low quality movies), but there was this one part where the robbers put a drill through someone's head or something like that.

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-DarkWolf
Scientia et mors
446F 6F6D

[theDOOMguy]

lol yeah but at 16-bits it still couldn't be THAT bad

[Console]

I think I agree with Doomie Dude. Like who needs to see somebody's brains and guts on the floor and it doesn't make them anymore dead. dead is dead isn't it? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm25.gif

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[Aliotroph?]

Well, as long as the bodies don't stick out of walls and hang off cliffs. That just looked stupid.

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"Killed Aliotroph?"
- obituary from Perfect Dark

[theDOOMguy]

"Like who needs to see somebody's brains and guts on the floor "

i do, i really like the idea

what's wrong with making it adjustable though?

[Console]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm36.gif

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[theDOOMguy]

squish squish, splat splat, slop

ah let the gore spill freely, sorry but i just like games to be violent as hell