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Zack
April 1st, 2002, 04:40 PM
I'm posting this here instead of Rants & Raves so it won't be just some quick ephemeral conversation.

My brother was just showing me some pretty nasty deaths in the horror movie 'Thirteen Ghosts.' It got me thinking: I wonder if the guys at id Software are watching this movie and others, like the remake of House on Haunted Hill, etc, and if they're brainstorming ideas?

Most of us have heard about the shock through the audience as they watched the latest Doom "3" demo last year at QuakeCon.
I hope there is as much shock value in the game as has been anticipated, and as there was in the original Doom also. It was known for it's numerous ways to die. Wolfenstein 3D only let you die--you and other enemies simply were shot down. Some of the bosses had interesting deaths (like Hitler), though it didn't make much sense.

In Doom, you can get smushed and squished, torn inside out from an explosion, pummelled with bullets, and set on fire, and enemies also have much cooler death sequences, such as the Mancubus folding in on itself, the Cacodemon deflating with its eye falling out, the Baron of Hell's skin "melting" down, and the Cyberdemon exploding in a shower of blood. The Quakes also had their high points with the first "real" gibs.

I'm curious as to what insanely gruesome, disgusting, and just plain disturbing deaths we all can come up with that we can hope to see in the game. Doom "3" is a horror story, and the modern day horror genre needs these things. Face it: The Excorcist, Jaws, and Poltergeist just aren't scary. At all. We need clear shots of freak deaths like the beheadings in Sleepy Hollow, the jack-o-lantern corpse of that girl in Halloween H20, the guy getting split in two from head to toe by a sheet of clear glass in Thirteen Ghosts, the mysterious gutted remains of Ms. Marr in House on Haunted Hill. Huge facial wounds, bodies being crushed at the waist, helpless gas fires incinerating a man's face, a la Sphere. That moron who was crushed at the waist into two pieces in the Tomb Raider movie toward the end of the final fetch quest, as he climbed onto the (wrong) spinning branch of the machine. The melting skin guy, the caving-head-in guy, and the exploding-head-into-hundreds-of-pieces guy in the firey "opening of the ark" scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Spine-crunching corners in Thirteen Ghosts. Heads cut open and the contents scraped out a la Saving Private Ryan, Starship Troopers, and House on Haunted Hill. Lots of things in Saving Private Ryan and Starship Troopers also. And, of course, just about every nasty (though disappointingly cartoonish) fatality in the Flash cartoon series, "Happy Tree Friends."

I want Doom "3" to give me a headache from such excessively horrifying and violent human deaths. Please don't think I would ever enjoy seeing something like that in real life, or anything of the like. I don't want anybody thinking I'm a sick person. If horror movie producers do it, id Software can do it too, and better!

What ideas can you guys all think of, original or from a movie or book? It may be too close to the release date (as far as we know) right now for any more ideas to be implimented into the actual game, but this is the Wish List forum, anyway. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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Doom_Dude
April 1st, 2002, 09:42 PM
Ugh! I want it to be creepy in the sense that you don't know what is going to jump out at you next....or the demons are so realistic that confronting one of them makes you want to shut the game off for awhile. Thats what I want. As far as shocking goes I'm sure they'll have enough shock in the game to make ya'll crap yourselves. I don't think more gore is actually what I want. I'm thinking if DooM is really more gory than any game to date.... then maybe I won't even like it, because I never was a fan of gory stuff. I like shooting the hell out of demons in a spray of chaingun rounds with the blood flying all over, as well as the next guy, but excessive gore I feel isn't needed IMHO. I haven't as of yet bought a game because of gore. I want lots of action and adventure plus a game world full of useable items and cool weapons, but that's for anouther topic I guess. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/wink.gif

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theDOOMguy
April 1st, 2002, 10:26 PM
yeah zack it DOES need to be violent, it would be cool if it was the first game to get an AO rating on violence alone

i would also like to hear the word "fuck" a few times throughout the game

Aliotroph?
April 2nd, 2002, 12:55 AM
They need a chick somewhere in there (and she can't look like fucking Lara Croft)!

Realistic violence is fine, but don't carry it too far like Duke and ROTT.

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Zack
April 2nd, 2002, 12:06 PM
I wonder if they will hire or have hired professional voice actors.

I'd love to hear familiar voices in the game. That'd be cool http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smile.gif

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Doom_Dude
April 2nd, 2002, 07:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif">quote:</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, serif" size="2">They need a chick somewhere in there (and she can't look like fucking Lara Croft)!</font><hr width="100%" size="1" noshade></BLOCKQUOTE>


Can she look like Lucy Lawless then?

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theDOOMguy
April 2nd, 2002, 08:35 PM
nah sorry but i really think they need to take it as far as they can, they can always make it adjustable like soldier of fortune if it's THAT bad

Aliotroph?
April 2nd, 2002, 10:14 PM
Lucy Lawless doesn't piss me off as much as Lara Croft for some reason. She still pisses me off though. Let's have hellspawn-reprogrammed Winona-bots. http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Zack
April 3rd, 2002, 05:28 AM
How about Lucy from Quake 3? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

She's funny.

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TheDeadGuy
April 3rd, 2002, 04:47 PM
Mmmhmm http://www.grillsportverein.de/smilies/cwm/3dlil/sleep.gif

Zack
April 5th, 2002, 08:07 PM
Well c'mon! You have to admit, her boobs are bigger than Lara's. So what if they sag like an old lady's? http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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Doom_Dude
April 5th, 2002, 08:33 PM
Lucy from Quake3! LOL! http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/smilies/cwm27.gif

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Zack
April 5th, 2002, 09:11 PM
Back on topic,I just remembered the "Spinney-Splitty Thing" in Mission To Mars. It's toward the beginning of the movie. You'd know what I'm takling about if you watch it.

I don't know why, but that one particularly disturbs me. I tried watching it over and over again, rewind and play, rewind and play, and I was not getting used to the image. It may even have been getting worse! I could throw up watching that death.

Anyway stuff like that in Doom would be nice to see. It's that kind of stuff that gives it its badass quality. id Software's always tried to be gory. Did you know that when Doom 2 was being uber-advertised, some writers for magazines or a newspaper or something recieved animal intestines in plastic bags on their desks? The distributors almost got in deep shit for that http://forums.newdoom.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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theDOOMguy
April 7th, 2002, 12:09 AM
wouldn't it just be funny if they had exactly 99 ways to die?